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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2014 at 02:30 PM »
 
May 6, 2014 1:30 am JST
Samsung hits the pause button on OLED TVs
KENTARO OGURA, Nikkei staff writer
 
SEOUL -- Samsung Electronics has abandoned plans for a new facility to manufacture next-generation display panels for televisions, deterred by the inefficiency of production amid intense price competition in the TV market.

http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Samsung-hits-the-pause-button-on-OLED-TVs
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2014 at 02:35 PM »

Sony and Panasonic plans to enter OLED-Tv market with LG-Display panels
Is the rumor true? Has Samsung Display stopped producing OLED TVs?
on April 22, 2014

Japanese Sony and Panasonic television makers want to introduce their own OLED-television devices but now with their own developed/produced panels. Both companies plan to buy the OLED-TV panels from LG-Display.

http://news.oled-display.net/sony-and-panasonic-plans-to-enter-oled-tv-market-with-lg-display-panels/
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2014 at 02:54 PM »
drool... magkano kaya mga iyan?  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2014 at 07:58 PM »
 
Kateeva Grows Infrastructure to Support Sales

MENLO PARK, CA -- (Marketwired) -- 05/28/14 --

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... Kateeva announced the planned expansion of its Silicon Valley facilities to create dedicated manufacturing space. The first YIELDjet™ tools for mass production will be built at this location. YIELDjet is the world's first inkjet printer designed from the ground up to mass produce flexible and large-size OLED panels. With unique precision deposition capabilities, YIELDjet makes production of such ultra-light, paper-thin OLED displays economically viable -- for the first time.

http://www.einnews.com/pr_news/206844662/kateeva-grows-infrastructure-to-support-sales
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #34 on: Jun 02, 2014 at 11:24 AM »
UK Retailer to Hold 4K TVs vs OLED TV vs Plasma Shootout
By Vincent Teoh
14 May 2014, 5:46 pm BST

The Crampton and Moore 2014 TV shootout event will take place at Leeds Trinity University (post code LS18 5HD) on Saturday the 31st of May from 11am to 5pm.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/shootout-201405143775.htm
 

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Results:

1. Best TV: Panasonic TX-P60ZT65B (plasma)
2. Best 4K TV: Panasonic TX-65AX802B (4K LED)
 
 
Panasonic AX802 is Best 4K TV; ZT Plasma Pips LG OLED
By Vincent Teoh
1 June 2014, 9:15 pm BST

... The “Best TV” category was much closer, but it’s the other Panasonic, the Viera ZT plasma, which took the prize home, edging out the LG curved OLED by 10 votes to 7.

None of the 4K LED LCDs received any vote for “Best TV”, suggesting that they still have some way to go before approaching the picture quality of the as-good-as-dead plasma and the not-yet-fully-fledged OLED TVs.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/result-201406013793.htm
 
 
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #35 on: Jul 06, 2014 at 01:07 PM »
Bad news for those of us anticipating lower OLED prices, thinking that OLED will outperform plasma in all areas.

It seems that OLED will surely have motion blur problems despite extremely fast response times. 

Why?  Because OLED TV uses sample-and-hold, like LCD/LED, instead of plasma-style PWM (pulse width modulation). 

As a result, even if static resolution is 1080p, motion resolution on OLED is only 300 lines, similar to LED; unlike plasma, which can easily do 700 lines even with a low-end model.


Despite boasting insanely fast response time, the current generation of OLED televisions are driven by sample-and-hold method, so their motion characteristics resemble LCDs instead of impulse-type displays such as CRTs and plasmas. Indeed, running our reference motion resolution test sequence (namely the horizontally scrolling line chart in Chapter 31 of the FPD Benchmark Software disc) on the 55EA980W yielded a motion resolution of 300, the same result usually observed on vanilla LCD panels unaided by motion-enhancing technologies.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/55ea980w-201312083487.htm
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #37 on: Aug 12, 2014 at 03:18 PM »
Thanks for the heads-up.  This is very welcome news.
 
There are no top-notch pro reviews yet, so in the meantime, we'll have to be content with a link to another lazy-ass review.  This one is not curved, and has a different pedestal stand:
 
LG 55EC9300 OLED TV
First Impressions Review
LG put OLED and webOS together, and it's a beautiful thing.
 

 
http://televisions.reviewed.com/content/lg-55ec9300-oled-tv-first-impressions-review?sf28077489=1
 
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #38 on: Aug 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM »
Went to Anson's and was offered huge discounts sa LG OLED TVs! 55inches ang only size- 180k+ lang sa curved and 200k+ sa flat screen with built-in H/K speakers. Not bad knowing SRP is 350k.
Wasnt able to test the screens though with bluray material. Pero maganda ang colors and resolution sa material displays nila.
Tempting!!

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #39 on: Aug 14, 2014 at 01:59 PM »

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #40 on: Aug 14, 2014 at 10:06 PM »
Apart the price, another thing that is holding me back is the longevity of OLED screen. I've been reading that around 50% is lost after 4 years.

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #41 on: Aug 16, 2014 at 10:49 AM »

LG’s $3500 OLED TV is the answer
to plasma lovers’ prayers

By Caleb Denison —August 11, 2014
 

 
LG says Best Buy will be the first to sell the new curved OLED set starting August 24, and is accepting pre-orders now at BestBuy.com.
 
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/lg-55ec9300-oled-tv-is-3500/#!bEiOW2

 
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #42 on: Aug 16, 2014 at 10:53 AM »
 
 
4K OLED!
 
 
 
 

LG's 65-inch Ultra HD 4K OLED TV is more affordable, but still expensive
Break open the piggy bank, folks

By JR Bookwalter  July 31st
 

 
http://www.techradar.com/news/television/hdtv/lg-s-65-inch-ultra-hd-4k-oled-tv-is-more-affordable-but-still-expensive-1259867
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #43 on: Aug 20, 2014 at 01:49 PM »
 

 
Aug. 18, 2014:
 
LG OLED 55CE9300 wins 2014 VE shootout:
 
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-flat-panels-general-oled-technology/1650169-2014-value-electronics-flat-panel-shootout-results.html
 
 
 
Aug. 19, 2014:
 
A recount shows that the Samsung plasma 64F8500 got the highest number of votes total and average.  After deliberation, both the LG OLED and Samsung plasma were declared tied at first place.
 
 http://www.cnet.com/news/lg-wins-value-electronics-shootout-2014/
 
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #44 on: Aug 21, 2014 at 10:16 PM »
avsforum discussions:

Mentioned during the 2014 VE Shootout were the following problems, re: the LG 55EC9300 OLED:

- Uses sample-and-hold method (same as low-end LED TVs); no BFI (black frame insertion).
- Low motion resolution --- 300 lines of motion resolution; max. 600 lines with TruMotion engaged; same as last year's model.
- Unstable gamma due to ABL (auto brightness limiter).
- ABL was overly aggressive, even worse than some plasmas (13 fL [foot-Lamberts] on full white screen vs. 104 fL on 10% window).
- Visible image retention.
- Poor color tracking, as shown by the green car motion test clip and color saturation sweeps.
- DNR (digital noise reduction) cannot be disabled. 
- Viewing angles are better than LCD, but noticeably worse than plasma.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-flat-panels-general-oled-technology/1601121-lg-55ec9300-55-oled-anticipation-thread-16.html#post26656201
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #45 on: Oct 03, 2014 at 10:44 AM »
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #46 on: Oct 29, 2014 at 09:34 PM »
From Consumer Reports:
 
LG's OLED TV isn't the best TV we've ever tested
But the 55-inch 1080p 55EC9300 model shows

why OLED sets will soon top our TV ratings
Published: October 24, 2014 10:15 AM
 
OLED TV technology isn’t exactly new—we tested the first set, Sony’s 11-inch XEL-1, back in 2008, and Samsung’s KN55SC9 set last year. (The Sony's black levels were so deep we had to buy new test equipment.) But LG’s latest OLED TV, the 55-inch 55EC9300 is notable for two reasons: One, it’s priced at just $3,500—about $5,500 less than last year’s models—and it’s the first OLED TV to make it into our TV Ratings. On certain key aspects of display performance, it was unparalleled. But unlike some other reviewers, we can't say that it's the best all-around TV we've ever tested.
 
The 55EC9300 is a visually attractive set, with a super-thin profile—thinner than even the sleekest LCD TV in our labs—and a gently curved 55-inch screen. OLED is an energy-efficient technology, and the LG model used less energy than any TV its size in our Ratings. Overall picture quality was excellent, and its sound was good but not great, which was not unexpected given the cabinet's shallow depth. The television's overall score placed it only fifth in its size category in our Ratings
 
Still, it's clear that in some ways the 55EC9300 has no rivals. This is especially true in the areas of black levels and contrast, which are deeper than anything produced by even the best plasmas. While it has a few flaws, it's certainly a harbinger of even better things to come, especially when the first OLED TVs with Ultra HD resolutions (3840x2160) arrive.
 
Black levels and contrast were superb with our test patterns and movie clips that often emphasize the performance limitations of LCD TVs, which use a separate backlight. For example, in scenes from the movie "Gravity," white objects—such as Sandra Bullock’s spacesuit, the spaceship, or stars—are brightly illuminated, while the deep black of space is, well, deep black, not gray like we see with most LCD TVs. Also, the depth of black did not vary with the viewing angle, another issue with LCD sets. The same was true with scenes from "Star Wars."
 
If you’re watching a football game, the OLED will look great, though it may not stand out from the better LCD TVs available. But if you switch to a dark scene in a movie such as "Batman" or "Harry Potter," the difference in black levels will jump out at you, delivering contrast unlike any other display. And there is no clouding or haziness, like we see with many LCD TVs. In our labs, every visitor was able to pick out the OLED TV from the LCD TVs in the room without a problem.
 
Many TV experts, including our own, feel that contrast—the difference between the darkest and brightest images a TV can reproduce—is among the most important elements of a TV’s picture quality. We have seen excellent black levels on some LCD sets, especially on those helped along by an effective local dimming feature. But while this feature can help improve contrast on darker scenes, it does little for brighter scenes, and can often introduce some unusual side effects, such as the unexpected illumination of areas that are supposed to be black. This is especially visible when the TV is viewed from off angles.) OLED is an emissive technology, meaning it produces its own light, so it doesn't need a separate backlight, and therefore doesn't need to resort to these tricks. Simply put, black levels and contrast are better on this set than any other TV we’ve ever tested, except perhaps the Samsung OLED set we had in our labs last year. (That TV never made it into our Ratings because it was rented from the manufacturer, not purchased at retail.)
 
But once we put black levels and contrast aside, we had some issues with LG’s implementation of its OLED technology that prevented the set from being the top TV in terms of picture quality. The first was color accuracy, which was a bit off when we compared it to our calibrated reference TV. In our set, there was a color shift toward red; as a result, whites had a reddish-pink tinge, and we were unable to make them completely accurate using the TV’s picture controls. Unlike Samsung, which uses red, green, and blue OLED subpixels, LG's technology, called white OLED, adds a white subpixel to the arrangement, and uses color filters to create red, green, and blue light. We can't say that LG's color shift is due to this implementation, but it does have some manufacturing advantages, which is perhaps why LG is pushing OLED more aggressively than Samsung.
 
Although our resolution tests, as shown above, indicated that the OLED TV was capable of full 1080p resolution, on Blu-ray movies we noted that finest detail and texture were not as crisp as we expect from a full 1080p TV. We attributed this to some slight noise reduction processing that we could not turn off.  Finally, while the TV can deliver the deepest black levels we’ve seen from a set in our Ratings, our grayscale test revealed that as the bars get progressively darker they do not fade gracefully to black; instead, they drop off suddenly right before reaching the blackest level. On darker scenes, this issue reveals itself in the darker shadows, where instead of smooth transitions we saw coarse, edgy contours. You can avoid this by raising the brightness level, but you then lose that deep black. We’re being picky here because the best TVs today don’t have these issues.
 
But overall, LG’s 55EC9300 OLED TV is a top-performing 1080p set, and certainly ranks among the best TVs we’ve ever tested. It's worth noting that under normal viewing, many people won't notice the flaws we point out in this review. But even with some of the noted shortcomings of this set, it's clear to us that OLED will quickly emerge as the top display technology for those who care about top-notch television picture quality. That's why we're eagerly awaiting the arrival of some of LG's even newer OLED TVs, offered in 65- and 77-inch screen sizes, which combine OLED performance with higher Ultra HD TV resolutions.  We expect these sets—and hopefully Ultra HD OLED TVs from other manufacturers—to become the new benchmarks for TV performance for the next several years.
 
—James K. Willcox and Claudio Ciacci
 
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #47 on: Nov 17, 2014 at 12:31 PM »
 
OLED For Everyone? LG Explains
How It's Making OLED TVs Affordable
11/12/2014 @ 7:17AM
 
... LG’s assault on OLED’s pricing is being launched on two fronts: economies of scale and improved manufacturing techniques to boost yield rates.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2014/11/12/oled-for-everyone-lg-explains-how-its-making-oled-tvs-affordable/
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #48 on: Nov 17, 2014 at 01:12 PM »
I visited Anson's (The Link) last week to look for a possible replacement for my LG 50PK550R plasma. I'm planning to upgrade soon. Since there are no more Samsung PS51F8500 plasmas available, I was initially considering going UHD LED.

When I visited the LG area, I was drawn towards the OLED TVs on display. To my surprise, the 55EA9700 is being sold at "only" 149,999 cash (IIRC). I'm not sure if this is a good price already since I'm just shopping around just now. Too bad it's curved (prefer a flat one) and not wall mountable. However, the design and PQ is just amazing. I'm now considering it actually hehe. I'm currently doing some research. I'm also planning how/where to place it since my current TV is wall mounted.

Anyway, are there owners of the 55EA9700 here?

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #49 on: Nov 17, 2014 at 07:00 PM »
AFAIK, nobody here has an OLED yet.

I think it's a good price.  LG must be selling it way below cost because it's last year's model.  The current model is the EC9300.
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #50 on: Nov 18, 2014 at 07:16 PM »
Thanks for the feedback Sir. Actually, its 130K cash for the 55EA9700. If this was a flat OLED, it might have been an easier decision from me. The current flat OLED, 55EA8800, comes with an expensive frame (made by H/K) that acts as the speaker. Unfortunately, there's no price cut/promo price for this model. It's still over 250K++ I think. Hopefully its price falls significantly as well in the next few months.

The waiting game continues...

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #51 on: Nov 18, 2014 at 09:39 PM »
LG to quadruple OLED panel production in December
LG Display is set to ramp up its OLED production next month, producing four times
as many panels and bringing down prices on LG's OLED TV range.
by Jaehwan Cho
November 10, 2014 7:16 PM PST

... The company is already producing OLED panels at its M1 line at its factory in Paju, South Korea, which has a maximum production capacity of 8,000 glass substrates per month.

Now, LG is preparing to start operations of its M2 line, which could produce up to 26,000 OLED panels per month when fully operational.

http://www.cnet.com/news/lg-to-quadruple-oled-panel-production-in-december/
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OLED TV
« Reply #52 on: Nov 18, 2014 at 09:50 PM »
If these oled tvs drop to 50k it'll be my next upgrade.

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #53 on: Dec 18, 2014 at 12:54 PM »

OLED uniformity problems:
 

 
LG 55EC930V Curved OLED TV Review
 By Vincent Teoh16 December 2014
 
... Once we peeled our eyes away from the addictive contrast and started to analyse critically though, we unearthed a number of interesting issues on the EC930 OLED. First was the presence of varying degree of discolouration on different parts of the screen, notably a magenta tint along the left and right sides on our review unit. This was compounded by the image taking on a slight greenish cast when not viewed straight on. Whilst this tinting was largely invisible with most content we watched, black-and-white films and a uniform grey/white backdrop would show it up, which may irk owners depending on their viewing habits and individual tolerances.



Besides the uneven colour tinting, there was one other uniformity issue on our 55″ EC930V sample. When we loaded Chapter 12 of Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallow Part 2 to assess black level and shadow detail, we immediately noticed the sides appearing a fair bit darker than the centre of the screen, obliterating detail in those areas. Here’s a photo capture to illustrate:


 

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/55ec930v-201412163962.htm
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #54 on: Jan 12, 2015 at 10:14 PM »
LG keeps ball rolling with 2015 4K OLED TV lineup
By Darren Quick
January 5, 2015



http://www.gizmag.com/lg-2015-4k-oled-tv/35458/
 
 
Panasonic to Launch 65″ 4K Curved OLED TV in 2015   
By Vincent Teoh
7 January 2015, 8:30 am GMT   


 
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-4k-oled-201501073969.htm
 
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #55 on: Mar 01, 2015 at 11:53 PM »
90 inches, 4k OLED...perfect!

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #56 on: Jun 04, 2015 at 07:14 PM »
 
LG’s incredible new HDTV prototype is as thin as paper
By Yoni Heisleron May 20, 2015 at 8:30 AM

 

Just when you thought that TVs couldn’t possibly get any thinner, LG has gone and upped the ante with an incredible 55-inch OLED wallpaper display that measures in at less than a millimeter and weighs just barely over four pounds.
 
 
http://bgr.com/2015/05/20/lg-hdtv-oled-display-wallpaper/
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #58 on: Jul 21, 2015 at 03:47 PM »
kelan kaya magkaka OLED na bigger than 75.. i like this better than the UHD panels..



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