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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #360 on: Nov 05, 2016 at 08:16 AM »
38-inch? 3860x1600? :)

Hehe! Sorry hindi ko na-clarify. 24" Full HD siya @ 2560x1080.  ;D Wala pa atang 4k native ang widescreen ng LG. QHD only.
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #361 on: Nov 05, 2016 at 08:41 AM »
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/common/printpreview.asp?categoryCode=133&newsIdx=213523
LG vows to push for high-end OLED TVs
2016-09-05 : 17:38

By Yoon Sung-won

Kwon Bong-seok, executive vice president of LG Electronics

LG Electronics said Monday it will focus on high-end ultra organic light-emitting diode (ultra OLED) TVs ― upping production by 70 percent this year ― to boost the profitability of its OLED TV business.

The world’s leading TV maker said more than half of its OLED TV sales have come from ultra OLED TVs in the first half of this year, compared to one-third last year, on the back of rapid growth of the high-definition 4K TV market worldwide. In the same period, the operating-profit-to-sales ratio of the company’s home entertainment (HE) business division reached 8.1 percent.

“Through a period of meaningful growth in the last three years, OLED has become the mainstream in premium TVs,” said Kwon Bong-seok, executive vice president of LG Electronics’ HE Business Division, during a press conference at the IFA 2016 electronics fair in Berlin, Saturday local time. “OLED will solidify its position as a central megatrend this year.”

LG Electronics claimed that its OLED TVs have caused a restructuring in the global premium TV market as its products hold a market share of about 90 percent. It has diversified size options of OLED TVs from 55 inches to 77 inches.

The company also said it is strengthening distribution channels in the global market, cooperating with Best Buy, North America’s largest electronic outlet chain, to set up display OLED TVs giving customers a closer look in more than 400 stores in the United States.

LG Electronics expects that more than 10 electronics makers will be selling OLED TVs within this year amid intensifying competition with the LCD TV sector. In recent years, latecomers in the display industry including China and Taiwan have conducted massive investments in the LCD display panel sector, instigating fiercer competition between TV makers. Targeting the premium TV market, more brands are looking to roll out OLED TVs.

The electronics maker said it will also boost its business-to-business sales of OLED TVs. Besides targeting hotels, schools, fitness centers and large-scale events such as conferences, the company said it will strengthen its leadership in the premium commercial display market with OLED digital signs.


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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #362 on: Nov 05, 2016 at 08:43 AM »
Panasonic shows off new "reference" OLED TV prototype at IFA
01 Sep 2016 | Rasmus Larsen | 9 Comments
At IFA 2016, Panasonic is showing off a new "reference" OLED TV prototype. The company says that it wants to show what the “next generation OLED technology” looks like and the “significant progress made so far” in especially “near-black reproduction”. A consumer product is coming in 2017.

Panasonic OLED TV prototype
Panasonic launched its first OLED TV - the 65” CZ950 - exactly one year ago at IFA 2015. The Japanese company has no new OLED product to launch at this year’s IFA show but it has brought a prototype to show that it is “committed to shaping the future of television and is already working towards its next ‘Reference’ review with OLED”.

And here it is (photo credit: HDTVTest.co.uk):


So, what does this entail exactly?

- “Panasonic is currently working on applying our next generation processing to OLED technology, focusing on improving OLED’s most demanding challenges: near-black reproduction. By applying Panasonic’s know-how in self-illuminating panel technology known from Plasma TVs, Panasonic is further improving this area and enabling OLED technology to deliver the most premium TV viewing experience possible for consumers,” says Panasonic.


Panasonic 2016 OLED prototype

In reality it probably just means that Panasonic is not yet ready to launch its next flagship TV. Earlier this year, the company released the DX900 flagship LCD and Panasonic is working hard to position it as the reference LCD for picture quality. However, it is nice to know that Panasonic is still committed to developing OLED TVs.

More information “later this winter”
To help optimize its high-end TVs Panasonic has partnered with Hollywood colorist Mike Sowa known for his work on films such as Oblivion and Insurgent.


Panasonic 2016 OLED prototype

Mike Sowa explains that he used CZ950 to develop the home video grading portion of Disney’s The Jungle Book that will be available for streaming and possibly UHD Blu-ray later (Disney has yet to commit to UHD Blu-ray).

- “I also used the TX-65CZ950 on ‘Kubo and the Two Strings’ and ‘The Accountant’ two upcoming feature films I’ve been working on in Hollywood. There is no doubt that 2D is great, however, the TX-65CZ950 produces spectacular results in 3D,” he is quoted as saying in Panasonic’s press material, suggesting that 3D will continue to be featured in Panasonic’s next OLED TV.

Panasonic says that “more information [about the new OLED] is expected to be announced later this winter”. Our guess is that the final OLED TV consumer product will be unveiled at CES 2017 in Las Vegas this coming January.

Read more at http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1472707898#Op3L3ARtK1M7FFV8.99
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #363 on: Nov 05, 2016 at 06:31 PM »
Is Panasonic using their own OLED panels now or are they still using LG panels?  ::)
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #364 on: Nov 06, 2016 at 03:04 AM »
Is Panasonic using their own OLED panels now or are they still using LG panels?  ::)
They are still LG panels.

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #365 on: Nov 06, 2016 at 06:09 AM »
How do I get to the menu that shows the total "up time" the TV has been running. Want to know if the TV I am getting is re-sealed.

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #366 on: Nov 06, 2016 at 05:07 PM »
B6 owners, have you updated to the firmware released on 11/03/2016?

LG has released a firmware update to fix two important bugs on the B6 OLED. The TV no longer has issues with frame skipping on UHD Blu-ray and improves HDR10 PQ tracking, according to HDTVTest.

Frame skipping & HDR10 tracking
New TV firmware is released all the time. Most of the time new firmware contains boring bug fixes but LG’s latest 04.30.50 firmware has some very nice updates in the picture quality department.

While reviewing the LG B6 OLED, the most affordable 2016 OLED, our friends over at HDTVTest found that the new firmware first and foremost fixes an issue relating to frame skipping while playing UHD Blu-ray movies. This bug did not affect the C6, E6, and G6 OLED models that use a different chipset.

- “Firmware 04.30.50 eradicated the frame skipping, so slow panning shots in 24fps HDR material would proceed smoothly (well, as smooth as 24p allowed) without interruption from stuttering”, says HDTVTest.

The new firmware also fixes PQ EOTF tracking, or in other words how bright/dark HDR10 content is reproduced. This issue (or more likely, decision) also affected LG’s other OLED TVs to some extent.

- “Imagine our joy when we discovered that firmware version 04.30.50 yielded PQ EOTF tracking that’s more faithful to the current HDR10 standard on our LG B6 review unit.”

Additionally, LG has improved the TruMotion controls with finer, half-step adjustments.
Read more at http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1478257494#1UbhyTPqmR8bqild.99
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #367 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 05:13 AM »
B6 owners: Can you see if the "Total Power On Time" is present in the B6 being sold in PH? It shows how long your TV has been used.

Step 1:

Step 2: Then click tv model # then scroll down and you will see "Total Power On Time".
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #368 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 10:05 AM »
may bago palang firmware sa B6, mamaya pag uwi ko chcheck ko sa unit ko

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #369 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 07:57 AM »
may bago palang firmware sa B6, mamaya pag uwi ko chcheck ko sa unit ko
How was it?

Now, I have been hunting for an 65B6 and I am thankful for the help I received thus far. Prices I have found are the following.

Salesman #1
- P136,000 for TV
- P900 for delivery
- 34km from me
- Will give sales invoice but won't allow withholding of tax.
- Cash on Delivery
- From OLX

Salesman #2
- P148,700 for TV. They had it for P135,000 for a few days in September
- Free delivery
- 36km from me
- Will comply to all BIR requirements.
- From OLX

Salesman #3
- P148,900 for TV.
- Pickup only
- 22.5km from me
- Warned me about Salesman #1 might sell me a resealed (display unit)
- From OLX

Salesman #4
- P149,000 for TV
- Free Delivery & setup
- 4km from me
- Cash, debit card or straight credit card payment are the same
- Not from OLX

Or do I wait for next year?

Kaso the Peso is weakening and expectations are P51.xx to a dollar in 12 months.

Watching Netflix on my smartphone's AMOLED screen enchants me.
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #370 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 11:02 AM »
salesman 1. with the assurance that you will not accept the tv if its more than x hours in the hour counter

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #371 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 11:15 AM »
need to withold tax. :(

mentioned here for the benefit of those who do not need what i need to do.

company purchase ba? if company purchase then go where its convenient.

kasi if personal purchase, whatever is cheaper parin wins..

technically ganun rin naman pag company, but if paperworks are a pain, go with the lesser problems..

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #372 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 07:59 PM »
New OLED Range for 2017 is leaked:

55-65" B7 (flat)
55-65" C7 (curved)
55-65" E7 (flat)
65-77" G7 (flat)
65-77" W7 (wallpaper or flexible?)

https://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-results?sort_by=certified&sort_order=desc&categories=9&keywords=OLED&companies=1341

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #373 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 08:15 PM »
http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/english/news/industry/15768-against-samsung-qled-tv-lg-electronics-unveil-quantum-dot-tvs-next-year
Against Samsung QLED TV
LG Electronics to Unveil Quantum Dot TVs Next Year

SEOUL, KOREA
6 September 2016 - 10:45am
Cho Jin-young

LG Electronics will release premium OLED TVs and high-end LCD TVs next year. The company plans to position OLED TVs in the premium TV segment and LCD TVs, which can compete with quantum dot TVs, in the category lower than OLED TVs.

“We will unveil our own version of quantum dot TVs next year, which are somewhat different in kind from quantum dot,” Kwon Bong-suk, executive vice president and CEO of LG Home Entertainment Unit, said at a press conference held on sidelines of LG’s exhibition at the IFA 2016 trade show in Berline, Germany, on September 3 (local time).

It means that LG plans to release a new LCD TV using a quantum dot filter, which is not used by Samsung Electronics.

“OLED TVs target the top 2 percent of customers in the market, where around 200 million sets are sold per year,” he said. “By introducing a new kind of quantum dot TVs evolved from LCD TV technology next year, we will satisfy customers with various needs.”

In regard to a new type of quantum dot products, Kwon said, “The price of OLED TVs is US$1,000 more expensive than premium LCD TV lineups. The new LCD TV to be released next year will compete in price with other LCD TVs so its price will not go up to the level of OLED TVs.”

Japanese electronics companies, such as Panasonic and Sony, are expected to launch OLED TVs. Regarding the differentiation strategy, he said, “Competition over OLED TVs will intensify starting next year. We will unveil a new OLED TV with an exclusive hardware platform, that only LG can produce, at the CES trade show in January next year.”

He also said, “The yield of OLED products is improving and perfect black and perfect color technologies are continuously evolving. We will unveil our own hardware platform, advance the high dynamic range (HDR) technology and improve the contrast even in low color groups.

For other ways to use OLED displays, Kwon said, “We have already released a commercial signage and are in talks with two aircraft manufacturers to use OLED for inflight displays.”

LG Electronics is said that it is also in talks to use it in not only inflight entertainment services but also windows.

In regard to securing contents related to the HDR technology, he said, “We are creating 4K contents with a resolution of 3,840x2,160 pixels with global video streaming service providers, Netflix and Amazon. We will offer enough contents to enjoy.”

For the utilization of OLED in the medical care sector, Kwon said, “The monitor division at LG Electronics is planning to start expanding the medical monitor business, including ultra high definition medical monitors, from the end of this year.

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #374 on: Nov 09, 2016 at 12:04 AM »
https://www.ft.com/content/2caf0bf4-a24e-11e6-82c3-4351ce86813f

LG Display sets sights on ultra-thin TV screens despite losses

S Korean group faces challenge to swing lossmaking OLED unit into black

November 7, 2016

by: Song Jung-a in Seoul

LG Display, the world’s largest flat panel maker, is standing by its ultra-thin OLED television screen technology despite slow take-up by consumers and losses estimated at Won60bn ($53m) in the past quarter.

The company says it will convert more of its production lines from traditional LCD screens and predicts that its OLED division will be making money in three years and will account for half of all its revenues by 2020.

While rivals have steered clear of big investments in OLED TVs, Yeo Sang-duk, the president of LG Display’s OLED business, says that the new technology would save the company from a price war that is ravaging LCD manufacturing margins.

“We will focus our new investments on OLED because the LCD market is already saturating amid a worsening price war,” says Mr Yeo. “It is hard to differentiate our products with LCDs. We will lead the market with the OLED technology, to stay ahead of Chinese rivals ramping up their LCD investments.”

OLED, or organic light-emitting diode, panels have been touted as a next generation technology for flatscreen TVs. The screens are lighter, thinner and more flexible than mainstream liquid crystal display panels, promising an array of new options such as curved screens and TVs so thin they can be attached to a wall like wallpaper.

The technology is used widely for smaller screens, such as for smartphones, but it accounts for a fraction of the world’s annual sales of 230m TVs. Analysts estimate LG Display will sell just 800,000 units this year — mainly because manufacturing costs are so high. OLED TVs are three times more expensive than LCD TVs.

In the US, OLED TVs account for more than half of the premium market of 55-inch TVs priced at more than $2,000 and 65-inch versions above $3,000. Mr Yeo has forecast that they would comprise more than half of the premium market globally in a couple of years.

But analysts caution that it will be difficult for LG Electronics, the TV-making affiliate of LG Display, to expand the market beyond the premium niche unless costs come down and rivals such as Sony join the fray to give the technology a marketing boost.

LG’s rival Samsung Electronics has avoided making OLED models, saying the technology is not yet ready for mass consumption. Sony is interested in making OLED TVs for its PlayStation virtual reality business, however, according to analysts.

“It will be difficult for OLED TVs to reach the mass market at this price level,” says Kim Young-woo at SK Securities. “The high price tag remains a drag despite their quality.”

The difficulty was highlighted when LG Display reported a Won323bn operating profit in the July-September quarter, down 3 per cent from a year earlier. Analysts estimate that the company booked a Won60bn operating loss from the OLED business, taking a chunk out of a Won380bn operating profit at its LCD division.

LCD prices have recently rebounded, rising 15 per cent since July after falling about 20 per cent in the previous year.

“We’re now making up for OLED losses with LCD profits but we’re convinced that our future lies in OLED,” Mr Yeo says. “There are no entry barriers for LCD. But there are many technological challenges for large-size OLEDs. It won’t be easy for the Chinese to raise production efficiency without enough experiences and know-how.”

Mr Yeo predicted new uses for the product rolling out of LG Display’s expanding factory capacity. “We see so many future applications for OLED for VR devices, medical equipment, autos and aircraft, because OLED’s flexibility on top of high picture quality makes various designs possible.”

The prediction of profitability in three years is based on expanding a customer base that currently includes Philips, Panasonic, and Chinese companies Skyworth, Konka and Changhong.

The company is also improving production efficiency by reducing manufacturing defects and cutting investment costs by converting LCD production lines rather than building whole new facilities. Its OLED TV panel production capacity will double to 2m units next year.

LG Display has also belatedly turned its attention to the lucrative market for small-size OLED panels, announcing in July a $1.75bn plan to invest in flexible OLED panels for smartphones. Cross-town rival Samsung has dominated the small-screen OLED sector, producing panels for smartphones and other mobile gadgets.

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #375 on: Nov 09, 2016 at 07:50 PM »
How was it?
How was it?
4.30.40 ang naka install sa akin wala yung .50 pero wala ako makitang difference

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #376 on: Nov 09, 2016 at 09:42 PM »
How was it?4.30.40 ang naka install sa akin wala yung .50 pero wala ako makitang difference
Firmware is for 4K blu-ray improvement.

Went to Datablitz. The only 500GB Xbox One S has a Halo bundle.

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« Reply #377 on: Nov 09, 2016 at 10:08 PM »
Firmware is for 4K blu-ray improvement.

Went to Datablitz. The only 500GB Xbox One S has a Halo bundle.

as per datablitz, they won't be selling a stand alone 500GB model.

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« Reply #378 on: Nov 09, 2016 at 10:52 PM »
as per datablitz, they won't be selling a stand alone 500GB model.
last week they had it for under 16k. :-|

Ubos na yung stock?

Oh well, ok lang. I might wait for Project Scorpio instead and just get 4K content from the Internet. ;)

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« Reply #379 on: Nov 09, 2016 at 10:56 PM »
Hmm... Didn't know that. They also didn't post it in their fb page.

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #380 on: Nov 09, 2016 at 11:06 PM »
If I get a 4K blu ray player then it means I have to spend extra for discs.

Netflix na lang, masmura pa. :)

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« Reply #381 on: Nov 09, 2016 at 11:44 PM »
If I get a 4K blu ray player then it means I have to spend extra for discs.

Netflix na lang, masmura pa. :)

If you have the bandwidth, Netflix na lang nga or even Youtube since they'll be supporting HDR as well. kaso sa Netflix limited lang yung content na 4k HDR. It's only for Netflix Originals.

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« Reply #382 on: Nov 10, 2016 at 12:03 AM »
Which reminds me, I called Cash & Carry (not buying from them, mahal sila) and the salesman insisted that the wall mount was specific to the TV.

These salesmen talaga, don't they know that the wallmounts are based on a VESA mount standard? ;)

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« Reply #383 on: Nov 10, 2016 at 12:18 AM »
Which reminds me, I called Cash & Carry (not buying from them, mahal sila) and the salesman insisted that the wall mount was specific to the TV.

These salesmen talaga, don't they know that the wallmounts are based on a VESA mount standard? ;)
Hehe! Ganun talaga. Minsan na lang i tell myself, kung magaling yan baka manager na yan. Hehe! Okay lang hindi marunong basta wag lang maangas and mayabang.

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« Reply #384 on: Nov 10, 2016 at 12:27 AM »
Which reminds me, I called Cash & Carry (not buying from them, mahal sila) and the salesman insisted that the wall mount was specific to the TV.

These salesmen talaga, don't they know that the wallmounts are based on a VESA mount standard? ;)

If it's the free wall-mount, normally ini-install kasi ng service vendor ng TV maker free of charge. Hindi nila ikakabit kung ibang TV ang ikakabit (maski same brand and model pero iba serial number sa resibo) hence "specific to the TV" siguro tingin nung salesman na nakausap mo.

They also don't see the actual mount kasi ang normal process is yung service tech ang may dala nung mount at ihahatid sa pag-installan nung TV.

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #385 on: Nov 10, 2016 at 12:44 AM »
Which reminds me, I called Cash & Carry (not buying from them, mahal sila) and the salesman insisted that the wall mount was specific to the TV.

These salesmen talaga, don't they know that the wallmounts are based on a VESA mount standard? ;)

Sometimes I cut those salespeople a little slack. 

Most of those salesmen come from modest homes and are not exposed much when it comes to AV stuff.  A lot of them are crash-trained just before taking the job.

Yes, they could be ignorant at times, so that is where your knowledge comes in :)
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« Reply #386 on: Nov 10, 2016 at 07:15 AM »
Hindi rin.

We started talking about the wall mount when I wanted it debundled For the purpose of reducing the cost of purchase further.

Nataranta siya when I mentioned that it is vesa mount standard that is interchangeable. I even mentioned I could buy an Ergotron branded vesa mount compatible with the tv

It isnt about ignorance. They just want to move bundled products and not get stuck with inventory. So they make up really bad excuses hoping they're talking to ignorant customers.

I do not buy the humble origin or rushed training kasi if you've been exposed to the product almost half a year you'd pick up correct terminology by then.

I would consider it a bigger plus if they bundled an indoor tv antenna instead so I can receive isbn-t signals.


Sometimes I cut those salespeople a little slack. 

Most of those salesmen come from modest homes and are not exposed much when it comes to AV stuff.  A lot of them are crash-trained just before taking the job.

Yes, they could be ignorant at times, so that is where your knowledge comes in :)
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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #387 on: Nov 10, 2016 at 07:37 AM »
Which reminds me, I called Cash & Carry (not buying from them, mahal sila) and the salesman insisted that the wall mount was specific to the TV.

These salesmen talaga, don't they know that the wallmounts are based on a VESA mount standard? ;)

Yung sa samsung ko naman dati kasama na yung mount sa pag purchase ko pero nung nag pa mount na ako di yun ginamit iba na pero sila pa din nag mount.

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #388 on: Nov 10, 2016 at 07:54 AM »
Yung sa samsung ko naman dati kasama na yung mount sa pag purchase ko pero nung nag pa mount na ako di yun ginamit iba na pero sila pa din nag mount.
So two wallmounts were given?

I have a collection of six wallmounts that came with the Samsung TVs still inside their sealed box.

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Re: OLED TV
« Reply #389 on: Nov 10, 2016 at 09:06 PM »
So two wallmounts were given?

I have a collection of six wallmounts that came with the Samsung TVs still inside their sealed box.

Isa lang ung isa yun ang binili ko and yun ang ginamit ko pang mount sa samsung tv ko yung sinasabi nila na di pde magpamount using ivang mount kalokohan un.


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