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home media server
« on: Aug 14, 2013 at 08:28 PM »
i want to have a media server at home so my family members wont bug me anymore when they want to copy/borrow movies my hard drive and i have set up everything in their rooms

looking at this device?

http://www.zyxel.com/products_services/nsa325.shtml?t=p

or should i just make my own but the problem i dont know how or maybe baka mura and doable naman

i want it to be accessed in all rooms thru wireless but hoping the movie quality wont suffer and wont stutter

was also looking at this device too
 http://www.zyxel.com/products_services/pla4201.shtml?t=p

thanks

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Re: home media server
« Reply #1 on: Aug 14, 2013 at 09:02 PM »
sir, ive been using the etrayz for 4 years na ata, wala naman akong naging problema kaya lang max of 2 hdd's lang at 2tb each, baka mabitin ka, kung medyo marami kang movies i suggest gawa ka na lang sir madami naman free software for servers

kung puro hd videos ang ii-stream kailangan mag setup ng wired network

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Re: home media server
« Reply #2 on: Aug 14, 2013 at 09:30 PM »
sir, ive been using the etrayz for 4 years na ata, wala naman akong naging problema kaya lang max of 2 hdd's lang at 2tb each, baka mabitin ka, kung medyo marami kang movies i suggest gawa ka na lang sir madami naman free software for servers

kung puro hd videos ang ii-stream kailangan mag setup ng wired network

thanks for the rep. kaya thinking of using a powerline para hindi na wired ang network. any feedback on powerline? 500mbps daw data transfer

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Re: home media server
« Reply #3 on: Aug 14, 2013 at 09:32 PM »
nagtanong ako noon... regarding powerlines dito sa pdvd.. hindi daw ok yung ganun.. lalo na pag magkahiwalay ng breaker...

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Re: home media server
« Reply #4 on: Aug 14, 2013 at 11:18 PM »
nagtanong ako noon... regarding powerlines dito sa pdvd.. hindi daw ok yung ganun.. lalo na pag magkahiwalay ng breaker...

sorry sir medyo newbie ako sa ganito. hindi ko gets. i couldnt find any post about here dito sa pdvd. salamat

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Re: home media server
« Reply #5 on: Aug 14, 2013 at 11:39 PM »
@jrcrunch

Gaano ba kalaki yung collection mo? If malaki talaga why not build a windows server then lagyan mo madami HDD via gigabit network mo share.
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Re: home media server
« Reply #6 on: Aug 15, 2013 at 01:34 AM »
3TB sir.

are you familiar with mga hotel ppv. gusto ko maduplicate yun para hindi na ako kulitin ng fam members ko sa kakahiram ng movies sa akin haha.

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Re: home media server
« Reply #7 on: Aug 15, 2013 at 01:44 AM »
3TB sir.

are you familiar with mga hotel ppv. gusto ko maduplicate yun para hindi na ako kulitin ng fam members ko sa kakahiram ng movies sa akin haha.

May software and hardware ata sila na gamit jan chief. Pay per view yan di ba?
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Re: home media server
« Reply #8 on: Aug 15, 2013 at 02:52 AM »
i want to have a media server at home so my family members wont bug me anymore when they want to copy/borrow movies my hard drive and i have set up everything in their rooms

looking at this device?

http://www.zyxel.com/products_services/nsa325.shtml?t=p

or should i just make my own but the problem i dont know how or maybe baka mura and doable naman

i want it to be accessed in all rooms thru wireless but hoping the movie quality wont suffer and wont stutter

was also looking at this device too
 http://www.zyxel.com/products_services/pla4201.shtml?t=p

thanks

ZyXEL makes good powerline adapters, but the performance varies depending on your home wiring. If you're using them, plug them straight to the wall (no surge protector, extension cord, etc.).

They can usually jump across circuit breakers as long as the home has good wiring. They are sometimes affected by ground fault interrupters (if you have them) and shunt filters, however.

The 600Mbps "Gigabit" powerline adapters perform a little better than the 500Mbps counterparts and take advantage of home grounding (if you have it) by sending signals using all three prongs.
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Re: home media server
« Reply #9 on: Aug 15, 2013 at 03:51 PM »
May software and hardware ata sila na gamit jan chief. Pay per view yan di ba?

i want parang same experience ng ppv na walang bayad sa each room sa house. ako lang kasi marunong magsetup sa family. medyo hindi techie mga fam members ko at ako na yung medyo may alam hehe.

im doing this for my own convenience and theirs na din.

i want to achieve is that every room can access the hard drive from my room and play hd movies- parang yung sa mga hotels na ppv but eto of course libre :)

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Re: home media server
« Reply #10 on: Aug 15, 2013 at 03:54 PM »
ZyXEL makes good powerline adapters, but the performance varies depending on your home wiring. If you're using them, plug them straight to the wall (no surge protector, extension cord, etc.).

They can usually jump across circuit breakers as long as the home has good wiring. They are sometimes affected by ground fault interrupters (if you have them) and shunt filters, however.

The 600Mbps "Gigabit" powerline adapters perform a little better than the 500Mbps counterparts and take advantage of home grounding (if you have it) by sending signals using all three prongs.

hi sir, thanks for the rep. my movies are 8-25gb. will wireless N be enough to stream these files? our house is quite old na din so better if i have a transformer each powerline? tama ba?

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Re: home media server
« Reply #11 on: Aug 15, 2013 at 04:22 PM »
hi sir, thanks for the rep. my movies are 8-25gb. will wireless N be enough to stream these files? our house is quite old na din so better if i have a transformer each powerline? tama ba?

hindi kakayanin ng wireless n ang hd files sir, kailangan talaga ng wired network. and hindi rin sir ibig sabihin na pag wired na network mo e wala ng stutter, it will also depend on the server and the hdd's in the server.

btw, what will they be using in watching? laptop/notebook? htpc? or media player?

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Re: home media server
« Reply #12 on: Aug 15, 2013 at 04:29 PM »
hindi kakayanin ng wireless n ang hd files sir, kailangan talaga ng wired network. and hindi rin sir ibig sabihin na pag wired na network mo e wala ng stutter, it will also depend on the server and the hdd's in the server.

btw, what will they be using in watching? laptop/notebook? htpc? or media player?

they'll be watching from their media player connected sa tvs nila on their own room all connected sa hard drive sa room ko :)

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Re: home media server
« Reply #13 on: Aug 15, 2013 at 04:41 PM »
I think you need a high transfer rate na router. I tried streaming a 10G movie from the pc to the ps3 using a belkin entry level router grabe ang lag. pero yung mga 2G ok naman. kaya na wired ako.
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Re: Re: home media server
« Reply #14 on: Aug 15, 2013 at 07:30 PM »
hi sir, thanks for the rep. my movies are 8-25gb. will wireless N be enough to stream these files? our house is quite old na din so better if i have a transformer each powerline? tama ba?

Don't use a transformer as it will attenuate the signal dramatically. Plug the device straight to the wall as much as possible.

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Re: Re: home media server
« Reply #15 on: Aug 15, 2013 at 07:42 PM »
I think you need a high transfer rate na router. I tried streaming a 10G movie from the pc to the ps3 using a belkin entry level router grabe ang lag. pero yung mga 2G ok naman. kaya na wired ako.

Saka minsan kaya pag one stream lang pero pag nagsabay gumamit saka nagkakaproblem. There are some compelling 802.11ac solutions.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wi-fi-802.11ac-router,3386-17.html


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Re: home media server
« Reply #16 on: Aug 15, 2013 at 07:45 PM »
Dapat talaga wired with gigabit ethernet and CAT6 lan cbales.
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Re: home media server
« Reply #17 on: Aug 15, 2013 at 09:01 PM »
gusto ko din yung balak ni sir jcrunch... balak ko din bumili wifiN... wifiG parin kasi ako sa house.. wala din pala maitutulong wifiN... hehe wifiAC di ko pa afford.. kaya naba ng wifiAC? hindi din ako willing ipon 10k for router e.. abangers nalang bumaba price.. hehe

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Re: home media server
« Reply #18 on: Aug 16, 2013 at 01:13 AM »
this is my planned setup if hindi nyo maintindihan or sorry malabo ako magexplain

the hard drive will be at my room and everyone at home can access from my hard drive via network pero sana wireless

all rooms have media players and can choose what movies to watch from network linked to my hard drive. movies i have have are 8gb -30gb pala

what is important it can play 1080p movies w/o stutter. sana at least 2 tvs can play movies at the same time with different movies. so ang experience parang ppv ng hotels pero libre kasi sa bahay :)

--- so far it seems wired is the way to go. gigabit ethernet ata kailangan.

many thanks sa mga nagrep. laking ginahawa to if magawa natin to hehe. wala na magkukulet sa akin magplay ng movies sa room nila
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Re: home media server
« Reply #19 on: Aug 16, 2013 at 01:20 AM »
this is my planned setup if hindi nyo maintindihan or sorry malabo ako magexplain

the hard drive will be at my room and everyone at home can access from my hard drive via network pero sana wireless

all rooms have media players and can choose what movies to watch from network linked to my hard drive. movies i have have are 8gb -30gb pala

what is important it can play 1080p movies w/o stutter. sana at least 2 tvs can play movies at the same time with different movies. so ang experience parang ppv ng hotels pero libre kasi sa bahay :)

--- so far it seems wired is the way to go. gigabit ethernet ata kailangan.

many thanks sa mga nagrep. laking ginahawa to if magawa natin to hehe. wala na magkukulet sa akin magplay ng movies sa room nila

What server you will use? Or will you setup NAS? I doubt kakayanin ng wireless lalo na simultaneous puwedeng 2 or 3 or more pa ang gagamit ng connectivity since all room is connected on the said server. You need a HDD for NAS like WD RED i don't know kung kakayanin ng WD Green ang ganyan setup.  ;) ;)
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Re: home media server
« Reply #20 on: Aug 16, 2013 at 01:33 AM »
What server you will use? Or will you setup NAS? I doubt kakayanin ng wireless lalo na simultaneous puwedeng 2 or 3 or more pa ang gagamit ng connectivity since all room is connected on the said server. You need a HDD for NAS like WD RED i don't know kung kakayanin ng WD Green ang ganyan setup.  ;) ;)

di ko alam sir. ano advice nyo? hehe. honestly not in a hurry to do this. puro research muna para sure ako sa tamang bibilihin ko na gamit especially sa november ang black friday. we are moving to a new house hopefully next year para mapahanda ko to and in case wired ang only way to go mapaayus ko na sa electrician para malinis tingnan :)

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Re: home media server
« Reply #21 on: Aug 16, 2013 at 01:37 AM »
eto sir mamili ka, pwedeng 2, 4, 5 bays etc..

http://www.qnap.com/en/index.php?lang=en&sn=822&c=351&sc=514&t=522

pwede rin Synology, yan gamit ko 5 bays...

http://www.synology.com/products/index.php?lang=enu
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« Reply #22 on: Aug 16, 2013 at 01:47 AM »
di ko alam sir. ano advice nyo? hehe. honestly not in a hurry to do this. puro research muna para sure ako sa tamang bibilihin ko na gamit especially sa november ang black friday. we are moving to a new house hopefully next year para mapahanda ko to and in case wired ang only way to go mapaayus ko na sa electrician para malinis tingnan :)

Dapat pawired mo na nothing beat wired lalo na video streaming. Gamumit ka ng original Panduit na CAT 6 to support the gigabit connection. Get the best router that you can avail na gigabit na. Yung wireless mo pang internet na lang. Isa pa yung you will stream video via wifi plus yung internet mo pa via wifi din magcocongest yan for sure. I suggest get a NAS or build a computer that can accomodate a lot of HDD. If you go NAS get Synology as this NAS is expandables pag lumaki ang collection mo medyo pricey nga lang. ;) ;)

Main NAS Synology DS1513 can expand to 2x Synology DX513.  ;D ;D


Puwede din 8 bay agad.  >:D >:D

Synology DiskStation 8-Bay DS1813+


Yung Synology can be also act as a download station so mga new downloads mo will be directly save sa  NAS.

eto sir mamili ka, pwedeng 2, 4, 5 bays etc..

http://www.qnap.com/en/index.php?lang=en&sn=822&c=351&sc=514&t=522

pwede rin Synology, yan gamit ko 5 bays...

http://www.synology.com/products/index.php?lang=enu

Mas like ko Synology than Qnap.  >:D >:D
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Re: home media server
« Reply #23 on: Aug 16, 2013 at 01:57 AM »
Luma na pala yung sakin...hehehe..may DS1513+ na...Mapupuno na nga yung 15TB ko..ano ba yan..ipon na para sa expansion bay DX513 plus 20TB na hard disk...wossshhh...waldas na naman brader...hahaha
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Re: home media server
« Reply #24 on: Aug 16, 2013 at 09:29 AM »
What server you will use? Or will you setup NAS? I doubt kakayanin ng wireless lalo na simultaneous puwedeng 2 or 3 or more pa ang gagamit ng connectivity since all room is connected on the said server. You need a HDD for NAS like WD RED i don't know kung kakayanin ng WD Green ang ganyan setup.  ;) ;)

im using green, there are files na nag i-stutter/lag sa 100mbps network, so sometimes i end up copying a certain movie sa usb then kabit na lang sa media player, nasa mga 4gb lang na file yun sir, what more sa 8gb up :)

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Re: home media server
« Reply #25 on: Aug 16, 2013 at 09:44 AM »
If going the NAS route, go for WD Red for better performance since optimized sya for server.

Suggestion:

Synology with WD Red wired to Airport Extreme Base Station on your room
Airport Express wired connected to media player on every other room getting signal from the Base Station.
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Re: home media server
« Reply #26 on: Aug 16, 2013 at 11:56 AM »
why synology mga sir? why not zyxel, buffalo or netgear?

eto kasi 88usd lang. or should i go for the high performance version na 176usd na high performance version? or bitin mga to dapat synology talaga?
http://www.amazon.com/ZyXEL-High-Performance-Digital-Attached-NSA325/dp/B007JLDTRY


my current collection is 2TB of movies pa lang. if panget kasi bura kaagad. esp if we wont watch it again hehe. so 2 wd red na 3TB  or 6TB happy na ako.  mga 300+ movies na yun :)

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« Reply #27 on: Aug 16, 2013 at 11:59 AM »
Maliit pa lang naman pala collection mo. Or maybe try WD MyBook Live instead.
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Re: home media server
« Reply #28 on: Aug 17, 2013 at 02:30 AM »
Maliit pa lang naman pala collection mo. Or maybe try WD MyBook Live instead.

baka di kayanan ng wdlive if 2 tv or media player magplay ng hd movies na sabayan or kaya ba sir?

how big is your collection pala?

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Re: home media server
« Reply #29 on: Aug 17, 2013 at 07:19 AM »
synology and qnap, medyo nasa top tier sila for soho kaya medyo pricey compared sa iba.