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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #900 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 11:13 AM »
Eto ang mali ni Mark, he asked the mods to close the duplicate thread in full range sub forum which they did. Ang ginawa nya he created a new thread sa MA section then copy-paste the comments of the member who started the "objective measurement" topic and hinamon nya ng one-on-one discussion. Hindi naman sumagot yung member pero yung iba nagreklamo sa mods.

May bad blood na yang mga yan last year pa and it's the same group of people who are overly critical with MA drivers because they've had issues with it before. When they questioned Mark about it mostly ang gist ng sagot ni Mark is "I know what I'm doing" or "You're an amateur, i'm an expert". Ang katwiran ni Mark; if you are seeking clarification PM or email me because some of my answers might be a business/industry secret. It's a cultural thing din e, Briton si Mark (but based in Hong Kong) and I personally know how they differ to Americans in terms of perception.

Mark is not the best salesman but I love how he ask DIYers for input in developing his products. He is the only speaker designer to my knowledge who does that.


i do not know why they are like that in the speakers forums...
can't take criticisms, perhaps because they are protecting their bottom line...
even David Dicks got banned over a year ago, some mods were of the opinion
that he was worse than Mark...i have to admit i am not much of a speaker guy
to follow all of these, but things just don't happen at diyaudio,
no single moderator can make big decisions by himself, only the site owner can do that..
we moderators work on consensus so unless majority consensus is reached
we do not take action...simple as this...
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #901 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 11:15 AM »
"naisipan nya ilagay  sa pick up truck dahil in his experiment experiment nilapag nya mababa sa floor ang speakers then oriented it up-firing."

Digress lang kaunti for people's info. My friend did this floor mount on his Civic using another brand. Boxes were false floors. One speaker was mounted on the driver's side. The other on the passenger side. The theory being the sound reflected off the windshield. Compared to stock door mounts, the sound path was longer. The longer paths of the floor mounted speakers had less discrepancy with each other compared to the door mounted speakers. Mas equal ang time alignment.

The result was very distant, focused images down to bass. I was blown away at that time. I never achieved that in my car.

Now back to regular programming.

this is the point, if you purchased his speaker,
you have the right to use it in any manner that pleases you.....
no one can tell you otherwise...there are no magic in speakers,
but magic it seems to me is in how you use those speakers...
« Last Edit: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:32 PM by tony »
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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #902 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 11:58 AM »
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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #903 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:03 PM »
na reconstruct na ni wintermute yung original thread since last night...

ang sayang yun mga build threads... helpful sa mga gusto mag umpisa.


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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #904 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:20 PM »
ang sayang yun mga build threads... helpful sa mga gusto mag umpisa.



hintay hintay lang tayo, maayos rin yan sa huli,
matrabaho nga lang para sa mods,
nagprisinta na sa Dave, planet10,
at pumayag na rin si Mark na ma-archive yung mga threads nya,
kaya hindi mawawala...
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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #905 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:22 PM »
me nakapagbulong sa akin dun sa kabilang thread,
hindi raw maganda itong mark drivers pag off axis na,
ano impressions nyo dun sa mga nakagawa na?


dapat mapakinggan mo pala kasi Mark may not be a very good salesman but he is an excellent driver designer.

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #906 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:23 PM »
hintay hintay lang tayo, maayos rin yan sa huli,
matrabaho nga lang para sa mods,
nagprisinta na sa Dave, planet10,
at pumayag na rin si Mark na ma-archive yung mga threads nya,
kaya hindi mawawala...


mainit pa nga... may iba feeling ko finger on the trigger pa.. tsk...


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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #907 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:30 PM »
ganyan naman talaga, malay mo magbago pa isip ni Mark,

meron mga posters doon na sumumpang hindi na ulit magpopost at
lalayasan ang diyaudio, mero naroon pa rin hanggang ngayon at patuloy na nagpopost...
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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #908 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:31 PM »
sa huli, biktima si Mark ng "series of unfortunate events", technical (forum related) and political...

afaik, hindi siya nakialam sa threads sa labas ng section niya, yun mga duplicate threads nun i-merge bumagsak sa MA forum (tough luck), eh siyempre sa kanya forum yun so he saw it fit to do "cleanup" which includes splitting, editing... at dun na nagkalokoloko...

although super mainitin din ang ulo niyan, pero hindi naman crackpot kamukha nun isang designer na na-ban.

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #909 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:32 PM »
The speakers section in diyaudio is where some of the most "colorful" threads can be found  ;D

From my observation quite a few members were put off by David's over the top pitching & pushing of his products. And to make it worse his free box designs were questioned and deemed not optimized for his drivers...I emailed him a few years ago inquiring about a particular driver, he replied to my emails, seemed like a nice guy, his answers are so good that the experience was like walking into a hi-fi store, it was just too much for me  ;)

i do not know why they are like that in the speakers forums...
can't take criticisms, perhaps because they are protecting their bottom line...
even David Dicks got banned over a year ago, some mods were of the opinion
that he was worse than Mark...i have to admit i am not much of a speaker guy
to follow all of these, but things just don't happen at diyaudio,
no single moderator can make big decisions by himself, only the site owner can do that..
we moderators work on consensus so unless majority consensus is reached
we do not take action...simple as this...

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #910 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:34 PM »
ganyan naman talaga, malay mo magbago pa isip ni Mark,

meron mga posters doon na sumumpang hindi na ulit magpopost at
lalayasan ang diyaudio, mero naroon pa rin hanggang ngayon at patuloy na nagpopost...

palagay ko hindi na siguro... tsaka dapat nag eenjoy na lang siya sa buhay niya ngayon at di na pinapainit pa ang ulo...

grabe naman, pero babalik din yan baka magpapalit lang ng account... diyaudio is diyaudio, para sa mga techies wala pa din kapalit yan.

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #911 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:35 PM »
Correct brader, may build thread din kami ni brader Joey dun. I can humbly say na dun ako natuto about FRs & DIY  ;) 8)

ang sayang yun mga build threads... helpful sa mga gusto mag umpisa.

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #912 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:35 PM »
The speakers section in diyaudio is where some of the most "colorful" threads can be found  ;D

From my observation quite a few members were put off by David's over the top pitching & pushing of his products. And to make it worse his free box designs were questioned and deemed not optimized for his drivers...I emailed him a few years ago inquiring about a particular driver, he replied to my emails, seemed like a nice guy, his answers are so good that the experience was like walking into a hi-fi store, it was just too much for me  ;)


and colorful people too, reminds me of streten.....
lucky for me i do not frequent those threads, specially vendors' or paid for threads...
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #913 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:39 PM »
The speakers section in diyaudio is where some of the most "colorful" threads can be found  ;D

From my observation quite a few members were put off by David's over the top pitching & pushing of his products. And to make it worse his free box designs were questioned and deemed not optimized for his drivers...I emailed him a few years ago inquiring about a particular driver, he replied to my emails, seemed like a nice guy, his answers are so good that the experience was like walking into a hi-fi store, it was just too much for me  ;)



I believe the reason is he DOES NOT use T/S parameters. And the usual solution being offered is stuffing enough damping materials to make a large pillow.


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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #914 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:39 PM »

grabe naman, pero babalik din yan baka magpapalit lang ng account... diyaudio is diyaudio, para sa mga techies wala pa din kapalit yan.

hindi lulusot kay SY at wintermute ang ganyang gawain,
yung sockpuppet catcher sa site nahuhuli ang me more than one accounts
at yung mga dati ng nabanned, kahit magpalit ng identity huli pa rin...
unless siguro magpalit sila ng location, meaning mag abroad....
pero malupit yung ibang mga mods, alam nila sa posting style pa lang huli na...

pero nakukuha naman sa magandang usapan ang lahat...
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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #915 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:45 PM »
 ;D ;D


I believe the reason is he DOES NOT use T/S parameters. And the usual solution being offered is stuffing enough damping materials to make a large pillow.

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #916 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:46 PM »
sa huli, biktima si Mark ng "series of unfortunate events", technical (forum related) and political...

afaik, hindi siya nakialam sa threads sa labas ng section niya, yun mga duplicate threads nun i-merge bumagsak sa MA forum (tough luck), eh siyempre sa kanya forum yun so he saw it fit to do "cleanup" which includes splitting, editing... at dun na nagkalokoloko...

although super mainitin din ang ulo niyan, pero hindi naman crackpot kamukha nun isang designer na na-ban.

kung hindi sya nakialam sa isang public thread, hindi nangyari ang nangyari,
he took matters into his own hands na wala syang authority kaya he suffered
the consequences of his actions...ito ang consensus ng mods at agreed upon by Jason...
but water under the bridge na ito...learning lesson na rin kay Mark....

yung Audio Nirvana gawang Taiwan, yung Mark audio ba saan gawa?
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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #917 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:47 PM »
Kapag sya na ang sumagot simula na ma-derail na ang topic  :D

and colorful people too, reminds me of sreten.....

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #918 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:49 PM »
hindi lulusot kay SY at wintermute ang ganyang gawain,
yung sockpuppet catcher sa site nahuhuli ang me more than one accounts
at yung mga dati ng nabanned, kahit magpalit ng identity huli pa rin...
unless siguro magpalit sila ng location, meaning mag abroad....
pero malupit yung ibang mga mods, alam nila sa posting style pa lang huli na...

pero nakukuha naman sa magandang usapan ang lahat...


Sa CIA o NSA yata nagtatrabho mga yan, galing manghuli. I think more on psychological evaluation yun style ng panghuhuli nun iba, kung baga sa kilos pa lang huli ka na.




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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #919 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:50 PM »
sorry po....:D can't resist that...
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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #920 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:50 PM »
Markaudio is made in Hong Kong sir but they have their own facility, they also make OEM drivers for some european audio companies...AN on the other hand is outsourced in Taiwan by OEM company Guide Sound: http://www.gui-sound.com/

yung Audio Nirvana gawang Taiwan, yung Mark audio ba saan gawa?
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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #921 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:53 PM »
hinid kaya at one time nag inquire sa Dai-ichi ang mga yan?
Dave, planet 10 has used dai-ichi FR speakers and says that he liked them...
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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #922 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:55 PM »
kung hindi sya nakialam sa isang public thread, hindi nangyari ang nangyari,
he took matters into his own hands na wala syang authority kaya he suffered
the consequences of his actions...ito ang consensus ng mods at agreed upon by Jason...
but water under the bridge na ito...learning lesson na rin kay Mark....

yung Audio Nirvana gawang Taiwan, yung Mark audio ba saan gawa?


sinabi ni Dave na hindi nakialam si Mark, nagkataon lang na yun merge topics sa MA bumagsak and Mark did his thing. kaso lang mainit na lahat, hindi lang members, pati mga mods. plus saving face na kasi ang daming naging error in judgement.

I still see Mark as a victim, pero sabi mo nga water under the bridge na and so it is. yan gusto ko sa DA, pag may hatol na tapos na agad.

Sa HK China gawa ang MA, kaya nandun nakatira si Mark to supervise manufacturing process.

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #923 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:55 PM »
Markaudio is made in Hong Kong sir but they have their own facility, they also make OEM drivers for some european audio companies...AN on the other hand is outsourced in Taiwan by OEM company Guide Sound: http://www.gui-sound.com/


if they used cheap labor from mainland china, they can sell speakers at very competitive price...
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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #924 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 01:57 PM »
hinid kaya at one time nag inquire sa Dai-ichi ang mga yan?
Dave, planet 10 has used dai-ichi FR speakers and says that he liked them...

may sariling planta si Mark eh so i doubt it.

ok naman dai-ichi ah, gumagamit din ako niyan.

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #925 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 02:00 PM »
may sariling planta si Mark eh so i doubt it.

ok naman dai-ichi ah, gumagamit din ako niyan.

yes, AFAIK, they are sunning Martin Logans there...bantay sarado ng lang kaya walang overuns na pwedeng mabile...
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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #926 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 02:01 PM »
Same observation here, mainit na lang din talaga si Mark dun sa members: xrk & pnix dahil talagang biased. Then yung iba nakakita lang ng graphs & measurements mob mentality mode na tsk tsk

Last year pa nagsasabi si Mark na aalis na sya sa diyaudio dahil nakakadagdag daw sa physical condition nya ang stress nung pagsagot sa ibang members, ngayon natuluyan na.


sinabi ni Dave na hindi nakialam si Mark, nagkataon lang na yun merge topics sa MA bumagsak and Mark did his thing. kaso lang mainit na lahat, hindi lang members, pati mga mods. plus saving face na kasi ang daming naging error in judgement.

I still see Mark as a victim, pero sabi mo nga water under the bridge na and so it is. yan gusto ko sa DA, pag may hatol na tapos na agad.

Sa HK China gawa ang MA, kaya nandun nakatira si Mark to supervise manufacturing process.
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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #927 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 02:03 PM »
Yes, may sariling planta and a recently remodeled $20K anechoic chamber.

may sariling planta si Mark eh so i doubt it.

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #928 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 02:03 PM »
if they used cheap labor from mainland china, they can sell speakers at very competitive price...


Hindi na cheap ang labor sa China, in fact, halos tablado na sa US ang labor cost. So what's keeping manufacturers to manufacture in China?

Two words, supply chain.

If you need a million gaskets, it's just next door warehouse, if you need a million screws, it's just a block away, if you need anything else, it's within reach. No interstate taxes to worry about, no arguments, no headaches.

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Re: MarkAudio Extended Full Range drivers - Post your build here
« Reply #929 on: Feb 27, 2015 at 02:06 PM »
Exactly, kaya nag-plateau na rin ang economic growth nila.


Hindi na cheap ang labor sa China, in fact, halos tablado na sa US ang labor cost. So what's keeping manufacturers to manufacture in China?

Two words, supply chain.

If you need a million gaskets, it's just next door warehouse, if you need a million screws, it's just a block away, if you need anything else, it's within reach. No interstate taxes to worry about, no arguments, no headaches.