Author Topic: 2014-2015 NBA Season: Warriors crowned as Champions (Read 557086 times)

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #1980 on:** Feb 10, 2015 at 03:46 PM »

Quote from: paolorenzo on Feb 10, 2015 at 02:47 PM

I find Westbrook to be one of the best open court / fast break finisher, but not one on one. For one on one, I think DRose/Lillard/Kyrie/Curry are better? But that's just me...

I think you are spot on. In the open court probably Westbrook is one of the best. But not in iso situations. Depends din on how you define one on one.... on the break, iso, post moves, backcourt only, swingmen or frontcourt.

newwaveboy · « **Reply #1981 on:** Feb 10, 2015 at 04:51 PM »

Quote from: lithium_deuteride on Feb 10, 2015 at 02:11 PM

Are there better one on one players today than Harden and Westbrook? Both are damn near unstoppable when they are on it.

Yup, Harden is probably among the top iso-players ...... you give him the ball on top of that freethrow line and watch him do that signature dribble left-right, then stepback shot. Deadly.

He's equally deadly on the break with that eurostep and drawing fouls with ease.

His only weakness is that great matador defense of his.

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #1982 on:** Feb 10, 2015 at 08:22 PM »

Happened to watch Westbrook's consecutive 45-pt and 48-pt games and I noted a similarity with Harden - both are cat quick, with the ability to out accelerate people who are unburdened with the ball while themselves handling the ball. In those 2 games, Westbrook was out maneuvering 2 or 3 guards to the basket. But yeah not really one on one ISO plays like Harden.

I don't think Curry is as quick as either but he is an absolute artist at handling that ball.

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #1983 on:** Feb 10, 2015 at 08:54 PM »

One on one ISO plays I think Irving is better than Westbrook. But open court, Westbrook has the edge. If kasama frontcourt players, Blake Griffin din either ISO or on the post is pretty good now that he has improved his perimeter shots and on occasion his 3.

rusty · « **Reply #1984 on:** Feb 11, 2015 at 02:19 AM »

Quote from: Woj

Charlotte has acquired guards Mo Williams and Troy Daniels for Gary Neal and a second-round pick, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

Quote from: Viviamore

Adreian Payne will go to Minnesota for a future first-round pick.

paolorenzo · « **Reply #1985 on:** Feb 11, 2015 at 08:37 AM »

Quote from: DVD_Freak on Feb 10, 2015 at 08:54 PM

One on one ISO plays I think Irving is better than Westbrook. But open court, Westbrook has the edge. If kasama frontcourt players, Blake Griffin din either ISO or on the post is pretty good now that he has improved his perimeter shots and on occasion his 3.

If kasama frontcourt players, I'd go with Carmelo as the best one-on-one player right now (for me, scorer = one on one player).

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #1986 on:** Feb 11, 2015 at 10:47 AM »

Korver is replacing Wade on the East All Star roster. Good for the Hawks!

newwaveboy · « **Reply #1987 on:** Feb 11, 2015 at 11:05 AM »

Quote from: DVD_Freak on Feb 11, 2015 at 10:47 AM

Korver is replacing Wade on the East All Star roster. Good for the Hawks!

All's well that ends well ...... Lillard, Boogie & Korver gets their spots after all. Nice.

rusty · « **Reply #1988 on:** Feb 11, 2015 at 03:25 PM »

Yay! Korver totally deserves the nod!

Great analysis on Korver's impact by Zach Lowe of Grantland:

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Korver is bound to be the most polarizing choice, though momentum for his candidacy is building. He doesn’t play “like an All-Star.” He shoots only eight times per game. He doesn’t get to the line. He has used only 14.5 percent of Atlanta’s possessions, one of the lowest rates ever for a potential All-Star. Hell, just last season, I left both Lance Stephenson and Andre Drummond off my ballot in part because of their limited roles on offense.

But we need different parameters for a guy putting up perhaps the greatest shooting season ever. Korver is shooting 53 percent on nearly six 3s per game. If you think all of those are wide-open jobs, you’re not watching the Hawks. Korver barely needs any airspace to flick off his quick release, and he’s shooting 47 percent — a number that could lead the league in some seasons — on 3s in which a defender is within four feet of him, per SportVU. I mean, I can barely process these numbers.

When you can shoot like Korver, you don’t need the ball to be a defining figure on every offensive possession.

Take two examples from Atlanta’s most recent game, its win Sunday against Minnesota.

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Horford gets an uncontested dunk at the end of this pick-and-roll because the help defender on the weak side, Andrew Wiggins, never arrives to challenge Horford in the paint. Startling fact: Wiggins is guarding Korver.

The Hawks botch this play, but watch what happens when Korver rubs off a DeMarre Carroll screen on the left side:

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Both Wiggins and Thaddeus Young chase Korver, leaving Carroll free to cut into an open 2-on-1. Korver did not touch the ball on either of these possessions. They leave no trace on most statistical measures of his impact. But he’s a crucial figure in each one, and this kind of stuff happens all the time. He inspires panic in opposing defenses, and panic breeds both mistakes and paralysis.

Korver has the best plus/minus of all non-Warriors. He is the common denominator in damn near every productive Atlanta lineup.

Carmelo Anthony is a better basketball player than Korver, but we should reconsider how large that gap might be. Rule changes over the last decade have pushed coaches to evolve on both ends of the floor. Ball movement and spacing are more important than ever; holding the ball has never been a riskier proposition. Anthony is one of the rare players who can still stand around with the ball and center a viciously productive offense. The ability to score one-on-one and from the post will always have value, especially if the player doing it is a skilled passer.

But the difference in value between those glamour skills and what Korver does — shooting, running around, making smart cuts — is shrinking. Korver “can’t create his own shot,” the lazy catchall for what constitutes an All-Star, but there’s much more than that to being a good NBA player in 2015.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nba-all-star-team-eastern-western-conference/

rusty · « **Reply #1989 on:** Feb 12, 2015 at 11:43 AM »

Quote from: Rusty Simmons

Steve Kerr says he'll go with a 3-guard lineup in the All-Star Game, starting Klay Thompson & James Harden for Kobe Bryant & Blake Griffin.

Quote from: Marc Stein

Another bummer: Hearing that the ailing Anthony Davis is being ruled out of All-Star Weekend

So Z-bo or Conley?

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Pacers have been solid lately w/ the return of George Hill . Baka bumalik si PG if the Pacers make the playoffs.

Superman · « **Reply #1990 on:** Feb 12, 2015 at 02:18 PM »

Dirk replaces AD for the West

Wiggum · « **Reply #1991 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 11:34 AM »

Zach LaVine! Kaya ka pala idol ni Kobe Paras

leomarley · « **Reply #1992 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 02:20 PM »

Quote from: newwaveboy on Feb 06, 2015 at 09:39 AM

I'd pick either Korver, Redick (if injury-free) or Belinelli to win it ...... IMO rhythm & iso-shooters like Harden, Irving & Curry will find it hard to win in such a contest.

Curry won

retro12195 · « **Reply #1993 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 02:29 PM »

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/02/steph-curry-hits-13-consecutive-shots-to-run-away-with-three-point-contest

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/02/zach-lavine-blew-everyone-away-at-the-nba-dunk-contest

newwaveboy · « **Reply #1994 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 03:30 PM »

Quote from: leomarley on Feb 15, 2015 at 02:20 PM

Curry won

Tsamba.

Seriously, it's been Curry's year, so far ....... if ever there was a baby-faced assassin sa NBA, siya na yun.

leomarley · « **Reply #1995 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 03:32 PM »

oo ibang level pinapakita ng Splash Brothers ngayon. would love to see Curry win the regular season MVP, finals MVP and of course the NBA Championship with Klay winning the most improved player award.

newwaveboy · « **Reply #1996 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 03:40 PM »

Most points to Harden as the MVP leader, so far ....... he carries a bigger load with stats to boot.

For most improved, Anthony Davis would have been the runaway winner - injuries lang ang kalaban ....... same scenario with Jimmy Butler.

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #1997 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 05:13 PM »

Quote from: Wiggum on Feb 15, 2015 at 11:34 AM

Zach LaVine! Kaya ka pala idol ni Kobe Paras

The guy has serious air time, like his idol Jordan. Would've loved to see some variety though - too many between the legs moves. Through the years, the best dunker I've seen is still Vince Carter, followed by Dominique Wilkins - powerful dunkers and a lot of variety / creativity.

armymanhaha · « **Reply #1998 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 07:02 PM »

I'm pretty suprised that Korver didnt get past the 1st round @ the 3pt shooting contest. Happy for Curry though.

frequenzy · « **Reply #1999 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 08:19 PM »

levine can really fly, but I think he lacks a powerful finish. also good if he can add a little bit more muscle.

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #2000 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 08:41 PM »

Quote from: armymanhaha on Feb 15, 2015 at 07:02 PM

I'm pretty suprised that Korver didnt get past the 1st round @ the 3pt shooting contest. Happy for Curry though.

I chose Korver to win. Maybe he isn't used to launching 25 shots.

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #2001 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 09:12 PM »

Klay Thompson fell apart after Curry shot 27 points. Shooting after someone who scored high adds pressure and affects the aim so it seems.

leomarley · « **Reply #2002 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 09:22 PM »

haven't watched the whole 3-point contest yung kay Curry lang napanood ko. isang round lang ba?

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #2003 on:** Feb 16, 2015 at 01:02 PM »

2 rounds - Kyrie, Steph, and Klay made the last round.

rusty · « **Reply #2004 on:** Feb 16, 2015 at 05:33 PM »

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The Amar'e Stoudemire era is over in New York. The Knicks and Amar'e reached a buyout agreement tonight, sources tell the NY Daily News.

San kaya lilipat? Suns o Clippers? Maybe Mavs?

oznola · « **Reply #2005 on:** Feb 17, 2015 at 05:53 AM »

who's the hottie sitting next to the black comedian guy during the slam dunk contest?

rusty · « **Reply #2006 on:** Feb 17, 2015 at 02:03 PM »

Quote from: Charania

Amar'e Stoudemire has committed to sign with the Dallas Mavericks, league sources tell RealGM.

Amar'e Stoudemire's deal with the Dallas Mavericks: one year, veteran's minimum, league source tells RealGM.

He'll have the role that Brandan Wright previously held in the Mavs offense.

anya618 · « **Reply #2007 on:** Feb 18, 2015 at 11:47 AM »

ngayon ko lang pinapanood yung all star, mag ama ba yung curry sa exhibition?

Waxx · « **Reply #2008 on:** Feb 18, 2015 at 11:52 AM »

Quote from: anya618 on Feb 18, 2015 at 11:47 AM

ngayon ko lang pinapanood yung all star, mag ama ba yung curry sa exhibition?

yup

rusty · « **Reply #2009 on:** Feb 18, 2015 at 02:03 PM »

pinag-aagawan na si Goran Dragic