Author Topic: 2014-2015 NBA Season: Warriors crowned as Champions (Read 557142 times)

dodie · « **Reply #4380 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 01:10 PM »

Quote from: leomarley on Jun 17, 2015 at 01:04 PM

To those saying that the MVP should go to LeBron you need to wake up.....

naku chief, kakatulog lang nila. kakaawa naman kung gigisingin uli naten..swell na nga yung mga mata kakaiyak.....bka mamaya ok na uli sila pwede na gisingin

jhelenz · « **Reply #4381 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 01:11 PM »

Quote from: Moks007 on Jun 17, 2015 at 12:52 PM

You are comparing that one game during that lakers series versus a whole series lbj had to play without irving and love. That is not even comparable. It is hard to do it for a whole series especially when teams can make adjustments for every game. If jabbar got injured at the beginning of the series patay ang lakers versus that tough sixers team. Injuries are part of the game. Ganun talaga.

Congrats to gsw.

yun na nga injuries are part of the game, wag I dahilan yung injuries. be gracious in defeat ika nga

Timithekid · « **Reply #4382 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 01:12 PM »

Quote from: Dodie on Jun 17, 2015 at 01:10 PM

naku chief, kakatulog lang nila. kakaawa naman kung gigisingin uli naten..swell na nga yung mga mata kakaiyak.....bka mamaya ok na uli sila pwede na gisingin

Nood sila replay, baka nag game 7 doon

GIJoe · « **Reply #4383 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 01:22 PM »

Ako di makatulog kakatawa sa mga die hard fans ni greatest player daw. MVP finals goes to King James ayan masaya na siguro si die hard fans.

Wag niyo na gisingin baka panoorin ung replay at lalo ma HB at di tinawag si king na MVP. Buti pa si king alam na di siya MVP pumasok agad locker room pero yung die hard fans pinagpipilitan na MVP si idol niya.

Makatulog na nga.

ayosbathere · « **Reply #4384 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 01:33 PM »

Quote from: VenoM_Unleashed on Jun 17, 2015 at 12:37 PM

kinulang sa stat padding, kulang ng 1 assist para mag triple-doube kanina, kaya kay Iggy na lang binigay.

pinabayaan kasi si Steph kanina.. ayon hindi binigay kay Lebron.. sayang tuloy

GIJoe · « **Reply #4385 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 01:35 PM »

Nagas out na naman ba siya nung 4th? Buti pa si smith may puso naka 2 na tres pa.

Pandidoy · « **Reply #4386 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 01:41 PM »

Congrats Bro. Dpogs

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prototypeone · « **Reply #4387 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 01:42 PM »

^Hahahahahahaaha tiyaga mag-edit

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #4388 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 01:46 PM »

Way too soon to say GOAT and Lebron in the same sentence. Malayong malalyo pa siya kay Jordan and some others. He reminds me of Karl Malone in that he's big and uses his size to great effect. Nothing spectacular or dazzling in his skills, just effective.

Sadly for LBJ he lacks charisma, the type that enables his teammates to raise their games, as evident in these finals. He's neither Magic nor Michael, that's for sure.

WanLu · « **Reply #4389 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 01:48 PM »

Quote from: deist on Jun 17, 2015 at 12:41 PM

May "cheat" talaga ang 2K my player!!! hahaha

And since we're talking about 2k na din... there's this part sa game na you would need to fix your rotation para happy and healthy lahat ng players mo.

I've seen several posts re injuries sa Cavs. Some say that it would be a diff story kung healthy sila... Hindi ba kasalanan din nila yun (management/coaching/rotation)?

leomarley · « **Reply #4390 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 01:59 PM »

Quote from: WanLu on Jun 17, 2015 at 01:48 PM

And since we're talking about 2k na din... there's this part sa game na you would need to fix your rotation para happy and healthy lahat ng players mo.

I've seen several posts re injuries sa Cavs. Some say that it would be a diff story kung healthy sila... Hindi ba kasalanan din nila yun (management/coaching/rotation)?

+1000000

Keeping your players healthy is also part of the game. Kaya hindi dahilan yun.

mattia · « **Reply #4391 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 02:41 PM »

Quote from: esr101 on Jun 17, 2015 at 12:03 PM

Irving was a really big loss sa chances ng CAVs. Imagine the outcome if he was playing in the finals.

GSW beat the Cavs by an average of 13 pts for the 4 games that they won.

Just imagine if Irving, Love and Varejao were all healthy. Give them an average production of, say, 6 pts per game = 18 pts per game. The outcome would have been different.

But GSW deserves all the credit. They played the game as a cohesive team and knew how to beat the undermanned Cavs.

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #4392 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 02:43 PM »

The what if game.....

If Gasol wasn't injured, maybe the Bulls eliminated the Cavs in the second round as well.

dodie · « **Reply #4393 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 02:45 PM »

Quote from: DVD_Freak on Jun 17, 2015 at 02:43 PM

The what if game..... If Gasol wasn't injured, maybe the Bulls eliminated the Cavs in the second round as well.

precisely......hahahaha

krets pulpol · « **Reply #4394 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 02:55 PM »

Warrios got a deserved win after a 40-year drought championship. What threw me off from LBJ's recent statement was he claimed he's the best player. It maybe true based on stats but basketball is a team effort not an individual sport. To me he's worse than Mayweather claiming he's the best out there both being without charisma on their side. He's still far from MJ if he can't bring a team to three-peat championships. It's like Al Pacino's Tony in Any Given Sunday telling Cameron Diaz "you've got to earn it" referring to that NFL ring.

Can't really blame LBJ, his team was riddled with injuries and there's none stepping up big time. GSW had a deep bench too.

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #4395 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:05 PM »

Ako lang ba nagsabi na deserving na maging Finals MVP si LBJ? You can read it everywhere, some LBJ haters and GSW fans even admitted na deserving sya. Kayo ata dapat gumising

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #4396 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:07 PM »

Quote from: the_w0rks on Jun 17, 2015 at 12:58 PM

No. LOSING TEAM = NO MVP. I just added that it was natural for Lebron to get those stat-line but it doesn't mean he DESERVES the MVP just because of STATISTICS.

Then ano ang basehan kung walang statistics? Ano 'yun, "lucky pick"?

heisenbergman · « **Reply #4397 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:11 PM »

Quote from: mattia on Jun 17, 2015 at 02:41 PM

Just imagine if Irving, Love and Varejao were all healthy. Give them an average production of, say, 6 pts per game = 18 pts per game. The outcome would have been different.

That's oversimplifying things.

Love would have been a liability on defense. Kyrie playing would have let James orchestrate the offense less, and James orchestrating the offense almost exclusively was one of the things that made these Cavs as competitive as they were. And one can't say if Kyrie would have been able to do the same efficient defensive job on Curry as Dellavadova was able to do in Games 2 & 3...

I'm not saying the Cavs would still not have won. Walang makapagsasabi. But it would have been a totally different series in terms of matchups, strategies and adjustments. Hindi siya parang 1+1=2 lang.

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #4398 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:14 PM »

Quote from: leomarley on Jun 17, 2015 at 01:59 PM

+1000000

Keeping your players healthy is also part of the game. Kaya hindi dahilan yun.

Kasalanan pala ng Cavs noong na injury si Love. Hindi pala si Olynyk may kasalanan

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #4399 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:16 PM »

Quote from: jhelenz on Jun 17, 2015 at 01:11 PM

yun na nga injuries are part of the game, wag I dahilan yung injuries. be gracious in defeat ika nga

Ang layo ng sagot

leomarley · « **Reply #4400 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:19 PM »

Quote from: VenoM_Unleashed on Jun 17, 2015 at 03:14 PM

Kasalanan pala ng Cavs noong na injury si Love. Hindi pala si Olynyk may kasalanan

Was that part of the finals? I thought so.

the_w0rks · « **Reply #4401 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:23 PM »

Quote from: VenoM_Unleashed on Jun 17, 2015 at 03:07 PM

Then ano ang basehan kung walang statistics? Ano 'yun, "lucky pick"?

Goodness. Read my post. Wala akong sinabing hindi basehan statistics. Sinasabi ko, hindi yun ang ONLY basis.

Defense, consistency, composure, stats... and lastly - being on the CHAMPION TEAM.

Also, you want to compare Jerry West's performance? He averaged 38ppg and he had Baylor and Wilt Chamberlain on his team. He had two stars on his team. Parehong gumagawa yun. Si Lebron mag-isa, hence, pag stats nya lang babasehan mo, eh talagang mapapa-wow ka kasi wala naman ibang gagawa. Eh si West nakagawa pa din ng 38ppg kahit na may malalakas na ka-team. I read that he also suffered a hamstring injury and his leg was swolen from game 5 to game 7. Yet he was still able to put up 42pts, 13 rebounds and 12 assists in game 7.

heisenbergman · « **Reply #4402 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:23 PM »

Quote from: VenoM_Unleashed on Jun 17, 2015 at 03:07 PM

Then ano ang basehan kung walang statistics? Ano 'yun, "lucky pick"?

Statistics are a part of it, but statistics are not everything. Winning counts for something. When voting for MVP, people always consider whether the team the player is on is a contender. The narrative for Russell Westbrook not being considered for MVP even though he put up godly numbers and triple doubles was because his team didn't even make the playoffs. That logic should also extend to the finals. If your team doesn't win it, you don't get FMVP.

Lebron was the best player this series. I don't know how anyone can argue against that. But the FMVP award goes to the player who is able to contribute the most to their team towards achieving their goal, and that goal is to win the title. So get iggy wid it.

leomarley · « **Reply #4403 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:33 PM »

Quote from: VenoM_Unleashed on Jun 17, 2015 at 03:05 PM

Ako lang ba nagsabi na deserving na maging Finals MVP si LBJ? You can read it everywhere, some LBJ haters and GSW fans even admitted na deserving sya. Kayo ata dapat gumising

Doesn't matter where the opinions come from. No ring, no MVP. Maybe if he went all the way to a game seven with most of the games down to the wire he could've won the MVP. But as I've said, the last 3 games weren't even close. The only difference if LeBron wasn't in the games is the results would've been much worse for the Cavs.

Also, I didn't say that you were the only one saying it. I said for those who believe that LeBron should've won the MVP.

frequenzy · « **Reply #4404 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:35 PM »

lebron for fmvp, if they won then absolutely kaso talo eh

thompson was a let down for me in this series, mukang kinabahan.

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #4405 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:39 PM »

Quote from: the_w0rks on Jun 17, 2015 at 03:23 PM

Goodness. Read my post. Wala akong sinabing hindi basehan statistics. Sinasabi ko, hindi yun ang ONLY basis.

Defense, consistency, composure, stats... and lastly - being on the CHAMPION TEAM.

Also, you want to compare Jerry West's performance? He averaged 38ppg and he had Baylor and Wilt Chamberlain on his team. He had two stars on his team. Parehong gumagawa yun. Si Lebron mag-isa, hence, pag stats nya lang babasehan mo, eh talagang mapapa-wow ka kasi wala naman ibang gagawa. Eh si West nakagawa pa din ng 38ppg kahit na may malalakas na ka-team. I read that he also suffered a hamstring injury and his leg was swolen from game 5 to game 7. Yet he was still able to put up 42pts, 13 rebounds and 12 assists in game 7.

That's exactly my point, wala ngang kakampi si LeBron kagaya ni Baylor at Wilt, LBJ had to do everything for his team. There is nobody in GSW that can top the performance of LBJ in the Finals.

Anyway, napaka hard loser ko naman kung hindi ko matanggap na kay Iggy napunta ang Finals MVP.

I accept Iggy as the Finals MVP.

leomarley · « **Reply #4406 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:45 PM »

One last argument lang. 8/21 fg shooting doesn't exactly equate to MVP.

Maganda pinakita ni LeBron most of the time but sad to say he still doesn't deserve being awarded the MVP with the finals having a lopsided result in favor of GSW.

praktikal · « **Reply #4407 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:55 PM »

kung hindi nagkaroon ng mga injuries then posibleng magiging iba ang outcome pero posible din namang makagawa ng plays ang GSW at magdagdag effort ang mga players para mag champion.

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #4408 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:55 PM »

Quote from: leomarley on Jun 17, 2015 at 03:45 PM

One last argument lang. 8/21 fg shooting doesn't exactly equate to MVP.

Maganda pinakita ni LeBron most of the time but sad to say he still doesn't deserve being awarded the MVP with the finals having a lopsided result in favor of GSW.

Kamusta naman ang Freethrow shooting ng nanalo?

leomarley · « **Reply #4409 on:** Jun 17, 2015 at 03:59 PM »

Yun ang tinatawag na partida. Hehe. Pangit na nga free throw shooting pero nanalo parin at nag MVP. Isipin mo 100% nga sa ft pero pangit ng fg %. Dun na ko sa pangit ang ft % pero maganda pinakita sa ibang aspects like defense which is only one example ng magandang pinakita ni Iggy.