Topic: Samsung F8500 Plasma (2013 & 2014)

[rafaelluis15]

Di kaya sa vid ang problem and not the panel.

sa first day ng H5000 ko, I noticed na sa upper part ng screen when playing the ZDesert episode ng Planet Earth, may two dots na white na parang lit pixels on certain dark backgrounds and nawawala pag ibang kulay na BG.

Sabi ko sa sarili ko pangsoli ang TV na ito, then naisip ko din bakit sa certain BGs lang meron at sa episode lang na yun.

I decided to run the episode sa LCD TV ko and ayun meron din, so sa video pala. Nakahinga ako ng maluwag

Sir sana nga sa content lang yung pinkish hue on white screen kaso hindi eh . Tnry ko sa ipad air at nexus 7 ko yung same content white naman yung lumalabas walang pink na parang blush on.

[skooter]

Mura yan ang benta sa akin 137k cash price sa ansons cash and carry nung first week of october. Kaya i'm so dissapointed kasi hard earned money ko yun pero walang quality control ata ang samsung kahit sa high end models.

But sir pwede naman cguro refund diba? just in case if you don't like there offer such as exchange it for an LED TV.

[barrister]

Sir meron ka bang link ng test pattern para mai download ko? Pinapupunta ko yung taga service center bukas para makita nya , pero yung faint horizontal banding kita talaga sa selected scenes sa movie pero mas kita sa white slides sa youtube.

Baka pareho tayong mahilig sa free    :
 
- Plasma break-in DVD - http://www.eaprogramming.com/downloads/download_main.htm
 
- Test patterns (free, pero professional-quality) - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-display-calibration/948496-avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration.html
 
- Dead pixel tester (for laptop connected to the TV, plain slides din, OK for screen uniformity testing) - http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Benchmarks/Dead-Pixel-Buddy.shtml
 
 
 
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Baka nga mauwi sa LED TV replacement.
 
OK lang kung wala na talagang available plasma units.
 
For me, Sammy 51H5000 plasma na lang + refund of the balance.  Payag ang Samsung diyan.  Yung 51F8500 ko nga, nireklamo ko kasi display unit, approved for refund by Samsung's main office.

[rafaelluis15]

But sir pwede naman cguro refund diba? just in case if you don't like there offer such as exchange it for an LED TV.

hindi ko alam if pwede ang refund, nagpunta yung tech kanina at nakuhanan nila ng picture yung horizontal line tapos nag video sila. Hindi ko alam kung ano yung kalalabasan either replace or refund lang ang gusto ko. Ayaw ko ng repair .

[rafaelluis15]

Baka pareho tayong mahilig sa free    :
 
- Plasma break-in DVD - http://www.eaprogramming.com/downloads/download_main.htm
 
- Test patterns (free, pero professional-quality) - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-display-calibration/948496-avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration.html
 
- Dead pixel tester (for laptop connected to the TV, plain slides din, OK for screen uniformity testing) - http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Benchmarks/Dead-Pixel-Buddy.shtml
 
 
 
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Baka nga mauwi sa LED TV replacement.
 
OK lang kung wala na talagang available plasma units.
 
For me, Sammy 51H5000 plasma na lang + refund of the balance.  Payag ang Samsung diyan.  Yung 51F8500 ko nga, nireklamo ko kasi display unit, approved for refund by Samsung's main office.

Masarap talaga sir ang free , hehehehe... Thank you po sa links. Sabi ng tech kanina now lang daw siya naka experience ng plasma na 64inches na may horizontal banding on white screen tinuro ko rin yun pink blush sa  screen , kumuha sila ng picture for documentation . nagawa sila ng report pinoprocess na request ko is replace the unit . I'll keep you updated para alam nyo kung paano ang magiging reaction ni samsung dito sa case ko.
First time ko mag 64 inches pero marami problema like buzzing sound( pwede ko na nga pagtyagaan kung okay yung screen uniformity) , horizontal banding, pinkish white na parang blush tsaka putol ang letters sa bbc kapag analog cable tv.

[barrister]

Masarap talaga sir ang free , hehehehe... Thank you po sa links. Sabi ng tech kanina now lang daw siya naka experience ng plasma na 64inches na may horizontal banding on white screen tinuro ko rin yun pink blush sa  screen , kumuha sila ng picture for documentation . nagawa sila ng report pinoprocess na request ko is replace the unit . I'll keep you updated para alam nyo kung paano ang magiging reaction ni samsung dito sa case ko.
First time ko mag 64 inches pero marami problema like buzzing sound( pwede ko na nga pagtyagaan kung okay yung screen uniformity) , horizontal banding, pinkish white na parang blush tsaka putol ang letters sa bbc kapag analog cable tv.

Horizontal band and pink discoloration, opinion ko, sa filter yan.  Parang tint ng car window yan, mahirap talang i-perfect.  Walang remedyo yan. 
 
Also, we have to be careful when cleaning the front panel, hindi basta glass yan, may plastic filter na parang sticker. 

Malala nga yung ibang series ng Panny plasma, green and pink pa:

Look for the green blob on the center and pink tint on the sides:
 
 

Panny VT30 (2011)
 

Panny VT50 (2012)

http://www.avforums.com/forums/16993902-post988.html

May guhit din sa screen yung Panny, pero vertical band naman... 

Yung Sammy plasma 51E550 ko, meron ding slight green and pink, pero slight lang: 

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,162437.msg1770757.html#msg1770757

Glass front panel yan, walang filter sa labas.  Pero may internal filter naman sa loob, kaya may discoloration din... 

Buzzing sound, hindi ko pa na-experience, pero sa US forums, sangkatutak ang ganyang issue.  Normal lang siguro, usually sa 64 inchers.  Depende rin sa room acoustics and hearing acuity ng user.

Putol ang letters sa BBC?  Don't use cable TV as basis.  Use test patterns.

Try AVSHD709 mp4 file (already linked above: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-display-calibration/948496-avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration.html ) 

--- Basic Settings > 5-Sharpness & Overscan.mp4

Yan ang tamang test.

[rafaelluis15]

Horizontal band and pink discoloration, opinion ko, sa filter yan.  Parang tint ng car window yan, mahirap talang i-perfect.  Walang remedyo yan. 
 
Also, we have to be careful when cleaning the front panel, hindi basta glass yan, may plastic filter na parang sticker. 

Malala nga yung ibang series ng Panny plasma, green and pink pa:

May guhit din sa screen yung Panny, pero vertical band naman... 

Yung Sammy plasma 51E550 ko, meron ding slight green and pink, pero slight lang: 

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,162437.msg1770757.html#msg1770757

Glass front panel yan, walang filter sa labas.  Pero may internal filter naman sa loob, kaya may discoloration din... 

Buzzing sound, hindi ko pa na-experience, pero sa US forums, sangkatutak ang ganyang issue.  Normal lang siguro, usually sa 64 inchers.  Depende rin sa room acoustics and hearing acuity ng user.

Putol ang letters sa BBC?  Don't use cable TV as basis.  Use test patterns.

Try AVSHD709 mp4 file (already linked above: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-display-calibration/948496-avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration.html ) 

--- Basic Settings > 5-Sharpness & Overscan.mp4

Yan ang tamang test.

Sir paano ba magpost ng picture dito sa thread? gusto ko kuhanan ng picture para makita nyo yung color white na may blush ng pink tsaka yung horizontal banding ng unit ko. Wow , thank you sir sa information itest ko lahat yan . Ang pangit naman ng banding ng panasonic parang mas mapapagtyagaan ko pa ang pagka blush pink ng 64f8500 kasi kung may eagle eye ka lang dun mo lang mapapansin, wala nman green blob yung sa akin tsaka dead pixel .

[barrister]

Sir paano ba magpost ng picture dito sa thread? gusto ko kuhanan ng picture para makita nyo yung color white na may blush ng pink tsaka yung horizontal banding ng unit ko.

Upload picture to a photo sharing site http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/photo-sharing-sites

Then link the sharing site pic to your post using the "Insert Image" icon of pdvd's "Post Reply" page.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,132172.0.html

[rafaelluis15]

Sir ito yung picture ng 64f8500 na may horizontal line.

[rafaelluis15]

Another picture

[rafaelluis15]

Samsung called today .buti mabilis yung response nila sa request ko for replacement . It will take 3-5 days daw to process if approve or hinde yubg replacement . If i where you papalitan nyo pa ba ito?

[Quitacet]

I can't see the problem in the pictures.

[barrister]

There's slight green and pink, but it looks ok to me.  Horizontal line, marami talagang 64 incher na may ganyan.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/167-plasma-flat-panel-displays/1472672-please-vote-do-you-have-faint-horizontal-band-samsung-f8500-plasma-series.html

External filter ang cause niyan.  There's no way to fix it, since the tech can't remove the filter and apply a new one.  Palit-unit lang talaga ang solution.

Di ba parang normal lang naman ang condition?  On regular content, mapapansin mo lang yan sa snow, desert, sky, and other similar content with large areas of plain light color.   
 

[rafaelluis15]

There's slight green and pink, but it looks ok to me.  Horizontal line, marami talagang 64 incher na may ganyan.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/167-plasma-flat-panel-displays/1472672-please-vote-do-you-have-faint-horizontal-band-samsung-f8500-plasma-series.html

External filter ang cause niyan.  There's no way to fix it, since the tech can't remove the filter and apply a new one.  Palit-unit lang talaga ang solution.

Di ba parang normal lang naman ang condition?  On regular content, mapapansin mo lang yan sa snow, desert, sky, and other similar content with large areas of plain light color.   
 

Actually kung yung pink tint lang pwede ko ng hindi ibalik pero yung faint horizontal line just above the middle of the screen ang nakakainis kasi when you are watching light blue or sky scenes o kaya naman white background tapos mag pan pa vertical makikita mo talaga . Hindi masyado kita yung horizontal line kasi iphone lang ang ginamit ko na pang kuha. Ang hirap manood pag nakita mo na yung horizontal line kasi you cannot unsee it. Actually hindi ko alam na may ganon pa lang problem ang 64 inches napansin ko lang ng nanuod ako ng movie na puro light scenes tapos  dun ko lang nalaman na meron palang line  nung nagtest ako ng white slide.

[rafaelluis15]

I can't see the problem in the pictures.

buti sir hindi nyo nakita yung horizontal line , problem is kapag nakita mo na you cannot unsee it, just above the middle of the screen yung faint horizontal line.

[skooter]

gud thing i bought the 51inch. maraming pala ganyan complaint  coming from 64 inch. owners but what i like the 64 incher is the excellent contrast and motion especially on 24p sources other than that ang laki nang power consumption nya almost 700 watts peak. you get that high consumption value when watching 3d materials. ouch... btw i don't use my 51F8500 for normal TV cable viewing to avoid unwanted retention image. we use it only for bluray viewing.

[sardaukar]

Extrapolating from the power consumption of the 51e550 and taking into account both peak watt ratings, I'd estimate average consumption at 400-440 watts when watching animated 3d movies (very bright movies). And probably 200-300 watts for ordinary movies (or dark 3d movies). It's high, but it won't be averaging anywhere near 700 watts.

[Clondalkin]

It looks normal to me.

[Clondalkin]

Gaano tumaas total monthly consumption mo in (kWh) due to the 8500?

... other than that ang laki nang power consumption nya almost 700 watts peak. you get that high consumption value when watching 3d materials. ouch... btw i don't use my 51F8500 for normal TV cable viewing to avoid unwanted retention image. we use it only for bluray viewing.

[rafaelluis15]

Another pic po na kita yung horizontal lines.

[rafaelluis15]

It looks normal to me.

Actually it is hard to see it with pictures . Pero pag video you can see it clearly specially on bright or sky scenes.

[jjb]

If those quirks such as pink hue and horizontal line bother you especially when watching, I strongly suggest you try to replace it.
Ive got a samsung led tv with 2 corners with clouding but doesnt bother me anyway.
Ask for a new unit! especially for a high end plasma

[rafaelluis15]

If those quirks such as pink hue and horizontal line bother you especially when watching, I strongly suggest you try to replace it.
Ive got a samsung led tv with 2 corners with clouding but doesnt bother me anyway.
Ask for a new unit! especially for a high end plasma

I already asked for a replacement but i still don't know if samsung will approve it.
I really like this tv specially when watching dark scenes  , colors look natural and excellent pq. I can't see any led that can defeat it's pq, But the faint horizontal line bothers me . At the back of my mind it tells me na pagtyagaan na lang yung horizontal line pero i paid a large amount of money for this  why would I settle for anything less?

[Clondalkin]

BTW, 8500 prices seem to be back to their pre-Thanksgiving 2013 levels at Amazon.

How exactly do you bring these huge HDTVs home?

[skooter]

Gaano tumaas total monthly consumption mo in (kWh) due to the 8500?

i use to have a 51e550, the power monthly consumption differences between my current plasma(51F8500) and my previous e550 is negligible to the point i don't bother it.

[skooter]

sir rafaelluis15, ang problema if they still have a replacement available? coz as you know samsung doesn't manufacture plasma TVs anymore. i understand it cost u 137k on that 64 incher but replacing it w/an LED tv on that price range, i'm afraid there's no LED TV that has a PQ likeness of F8500 plasma. those LED TV that has an excellent local dimming their prices would start at 200k, sony's 65X950B would be at 300k i guess? and it's not locally available.

[DTNS]

only OLED tvs can match the black levels of a plasma. but OLED tvs cost sky-high! 

[rafaelluis15]

sir rafaelluis15, ang problema if they still have a replacement available? coz as you know samsung doesn't manufacture plasma TVs anymore. i understand it cost u 137k on that 64 incher but replacing it w/an LED tv on that price range, i'm afraid there's no LED TV that has a PQ likeness of F8500 plasma. those LED TV that has an excellent local dimming their prices would start at 200k, sony's 65X950B would be at 300k i guess? and it's not locally available.

Yun na nga ang problema , what if there is no more new available unit? Ito yung dilemma ko , pipili na lang ba ako ng led or i'll just stick with the faint horizontal line. i'll throw the question at you sir if you where in my shoes ano pipiliin mo?i'm not willing to spend 300k for a tv that can rival the pq of the samsung f8500.

[Clondalkin]

I'll stick with the plasma if I were you and probably put on some lighting when you watch.  You don't need to watch in the dark on an 8500.

After a while, you'd just ignore the blemishes on the screen and stop watching the TV and start watching the content.

[rafaelluis15]

I'll stick with the plasma if I were you and probably put on some lighting when you watch.  You don't need to watch in the dark on an 8500.

After a while, you'd just ignore the blemishes on the screen and stop watching the TV and start watching the content.

Thanks for the input sir , i'll take into account your advice pero sana meron new unit.l'll keep my fingers crossed .