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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #120 on: Sep 30, 2015 at 10:36 AM »
^ Talaga lang ha? Ang galing mo naman at di pumasa sa standards mo para puriin yung Heneral Luna? You've seen better, wow, ang galing mo sir!
Of course there were a lot of better pinoy movies than this, and me mga flaws din yung movie pero wala naman nagsasabi this is the best Pinoy movie ever! Madami din namang magagandang pelikula pinoy maliban dito pero ang maganda dun nakakagawa pa din ng quality film.

70M++ tapos miscast ba kamo? Next time produce your own film. At tinatanong mo kung bakit kailanga pang i-require ito sa school eh ang daming PI? Wow naman sir wow naman talaga... e kse the film is about a piece of our history in case you missed it. So every Filipino must know this thing. Nakatulong nga yung pelikula kse ngayon naitatanong kung bakit di nakakatayo at nakaupo lang si Mabini.

Yang ang hirap sa ibang Pinoy. Instead na mag appreciate ng mga ganitong good effort and good film, manlalait pa kse di pumasa sa mataas na standards nila :-).

Mas gusto mo bang di magustuhan ng maramig Pinoy yung Heneral Luna movie gaya mo?
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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #121 on: Sep 30, 2015 at 10:51 AM »
the 50% discount for students will end today.fyi

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« Reply #122 on: Sep 30, 2015 at 10:51 AM »
sana palabas pa this weekend...
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« Reply #123 on: Sep 30, 2015 at 11:06 AM »
Note that this is rated R-13. So for me, OK lang yung mga P.I. and other curse words. Kaya naman niyan ng mga teenagers....

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« Reply #124 on: Sep 30, 2015 at 02:20 PM »
Matagal na ako di nanunood ng pelikulang Filipino. Sa totoo lang, quality wise eh talaga naman 20 years behind tayo sa ibang bansa. Pero dahil sa magandang review at narining ko rin sa mga nakapanood na (even our head pastor in the church endorsed it) eh nanood ako, wow iba nga. Maganda ang cinematography, hindi ka parang nanonood lang ng video, pakiramdam ko kasama ako sa movie. At ang story, parang kahit minsan di ko napakinggan sa eskwela. Mukhang na-sanitize ang ating mga history books. Ngayon lang ulit tumayo balahibo ko sa isang pelikulang Pilipino. Sana lahat ng pelikula natin eh ito ang gamiting standard.

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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #125 on: Sep 30, 2015 at 09:08 PM »
Maraming magagandang pelikulang Pilipino na nailabas nitong dekadang ito. Yung iba eh mas maganda pa kesa Heneral Luna. :)

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« Reply #126 on: Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 PM »
Maraming magagandang pelikulang Pilipino na nailabas nitong dekadang ito.

Yes. Off the top of my head: Norte, the End of History, Transit, Six Degrees of Separation of Lilia Cuntapay, Violator and Boy Golden. Marvelous films all. 
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« Reply #127 on: Sep 30, 2015 at 10:24 PM »
well, the American GOP stops short in calling President Obama a Marxist.....
They call him a Kenyan and a Muslim. :)

I do believe the historian is blindly nationalistic... if he were alive today he'd probably be enjoying using his iPhone, iPad, Macbook and go on holidays in the US while railing against imperialist America while praying China will not invade. ;)

History is written by the victors... I prefer a more neutral view of it with all sides represented. Although unscholarly, Wikipedia is founded on neutrality with often scholarly references at the bottom of the page.

Then again I'm neither a historian nor award winning. I'm just a critical thinker that does not just swallow anything spoon fed to him.
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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #128 on: Sep 30, 2015 at 10:27 PM »
Yes. Off the top of my head: Norte, the End of History, Transit, Six Degrees of Separation of Lilia Cuntapay, Violator and Boy Golden. Marvelous films all. 
But how is the production value? Do they favor long cuts that is the staple of old Pinoy movies or have they evolved to 6 seconds or less cuts used by billion peso blockbusters?

Filipinos are largely value-based on how they expend their time and money.
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« Reply #129 on: Sep 30, 2015 at 11:10 PM »
Watch the films and judge for yourself.

There are different nuances per film and how "long" the "cuts" are generally have nothing to do with how good a film is.

And rarely are "billion-peso" blockbusters THAT good, anyway.  They can even be really bad (see Transformers and GI Joe series).

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« Reply #130 on: Oct 01, 2015 at 12:19 AM »
yeah I'm not sure I follow how a film is good or bad (or has high or low production value) based on the length of its shots/cuts. Birdman is basically a lot of long shots made to feel like one continuous shot and it's a great film. On the other hand Requiem for a Dream is very dynamic with lots of short, quick cuts and it's a great film. It all depends on what type of treatment the film needs.

Anyway... I think Heneral Luna is good. Just not that good. I gave it a 7 on IMDB. The best thing about it imo doesn't have anything to do with how it was made but rather that it has created this huge surge of interest in Philippine history.

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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #131 on: Oct 01, 2015 at 08:59 AM »
Going back to the movie.

http://www.manilatimes.net/students-taught-proper-ph-history-luistro/221519/

Based on the interview above I really think Quizon's anecdote was done for marketing purposes to make the movie go viral.

Kasi, in a typical movie/TV show people really do not care if the character sits or stands.

Now, there is "outrage" by how poorly the youth are being taught thus people talk about it over and over again with righteous indignation.

skoivan, Birdman's very long shots are very dynamic walk and talks. Are walk and talks scenes done in local movies/TV shows? What I am talking about are long static shots that go beyond 15-20 secs with overly emotional dialogue. As juneaki mentioned local movies/TV shows are 20 years backwards.

Historical period dramas can and do use modern techniques. See Netflix's Narcos that is set in 1989. They applied today's pacing and techniques on a historical period drama.

Now, if you want to make a movie look like it was done in the late 80s then go use the rather draggy and static shots.

Transformers and GI Joe appeal to pre-existing fans and their kids. In that context it is pretty good. If it wasn't then it would struggle to earn enough to justify sequels.

I guarantee you Heneral Luna will win FAMAS not because it's that good but out of nationalism.

If you want a compelling and captivating 

Remember, movies/TV shows are a visual medium. If it comes up short in this regard then pasensyahan na lang or ipagtyaga na lang.

I am speaking from a value-based point of view.
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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #132 on: Oct 01, 2015 at 01:19 PM »
The film is nice because it depicts the true problem of the Filipinos before that is, they all want to be leaders. It is also a reflection of what is happening now. We know the problem since then, we cry and weep about it, but after that we keep on doing the same thing. Filipinos don't learn.
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« Reply #133 on: Dec 02, 2015 at 01:29 PM »

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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #134 on: Dec 07, 2015 at 02:04 PM »
Kelan kaya ito ilalabas sa DVD?

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« Reply #135 on: Dec 07, 2015 at 04:26 PM »
Kelan kaya ito ilalabas sa DVD?

I made an inquiry from the producers of this film about the possibility of a bluray release, not just DVD. I thought the film's cinematography will hugely benefit from a full hi-def digital format which the DVD format won't natively allow. Unfortunately, there was no definitive response.

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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #136 on: Dec 07, 2015 at 06:18 PM »
Sana by Christmas meron na

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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #137 on: Dec 08, 2015 at 12:44 AM »
From Heneral Luna fb page:

Ngayong pasko, gawing AGUINALDO ang Original DVD ng ‪#‎HeneralLuna‬!

HENERAL LUNA DVD RELEASE FAST FACTS:

Q: Kailan po lalabas ang DVD?
A: Wala pang konkretong petsa, NGUNIT panigurado na lalabas ito bago pa mag-Pasko!

Q: Magkano po ang DVD?
A: Php 699 lamang po! Habang maaga pa ay itabi na inyong Christmas bonus.

Q: Saan po ito mabibili?
A: Sa tulong po ng aming partner na MAGNAVISION, magiging available po ang DVD sa mga record bars sa buong Pilipinas! Panalangin ko'y huwag po kayong bumili sa bangketa o sa Quiapo.

Q: Heneral, paano naman ang mga Filipino sa ibang bansa?
A: Magiging available din po ang DVD sa paparating na ONLINE STORE sa aming Official Website (http://henerallunathemovie.com).

HINDI PA TAPOS ANG REBOLUSYON! Tutok lang dito o iba pa naming official social media accounts para sa karagdagang DVD Release updates!

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« Reply #138 on: Dec 08, 2015 at 08:58 AM »
Thanks for the update Syoti  :)

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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #139 on: Dec 08, 2015 at 03:12 PM »
Definitely will get one.
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« Reply #140 on: Dec 09, 2015 at 06:02 AM »
I hope the HD version becomes available either through BD's or online. No way am I going to settle for a SD copy.
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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #141 on: Dec 20, 2015 at 06:31 PM »
may nakabili na ba ng dvd nito? kumusta kaya ang PQ? nakita ko 'to kanina sa sm and napansin ko na parang wala ata syang kasamang special features.

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« Reply #142 on: Dec 20, 2015 at 08:22 PM »
They would make more is they released it on Video on Demand via iTunes, Amazon, Youtube, etc.

DVD and BluRay will only lessen their earnings as they have to invest in making physical copies.





Anyway, braved Southmall to watch Star Wars. Loved the the cuts being quick. :)
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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #143 on: Dec 23, 2015 at 11:39 PM »
barebones dvd. packaging sucks. no special features whatsoever.. sorry but not worth buying imho.. not even sure if its dvd9

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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #144 on: Feb 04, 2016 at 07:02 PM »
Heneral Luna has been nominated under three categories in the 10th Asian Film Awards:

Best Actor - John Arcilla
Best Costume Design
Best Production Design

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« Reply #145 on: Feb 10, 2016 at 03:54 PM »
Some observations:
-Mukhang mga bagong kula mga costume na white di man lang pinakupas pinamantsa ng konti. hehe.

-Ang gagaling gumawa ng bahay kubo yung mga ninuno natin. pero sa movie na to kitang kita yung mga coco lumber. Karamihan din noon matataas ang mga nipa hut.

- Ang lawak ng bukirin pero naka kumpol ang mga sundalong nag gi-giyera sa isang napakaliit na portion ng bukirin.

- I dont understand the intention of the too much murahan. Not realistic magagalang karamihan ng mga KKK maliban ke Luna.
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« Reply #146 on: Feb 10, 2016 at 03:59 PM »
barebones dvd. packaging sucks. no special features whatsoever.. sorry but not worth buying imho.. not even sure if its dvd9
may special feature sya
1. Music vid
2. Ilustrado (comedy skit)
3. Making of Hen. Luna

I have a dvd and just watched it last wknd

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« Reply #147 on: Apr 27, 2016 at 03:31 PM »
sayang they will air this piece after elections..maganda sana I air ito before elections..maganda message sa huli

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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #148 on: Jun 12, 2016 at 06:57 PM »
barebones dvd. packaging sucks. no special features whatsoever.. sorry but not worth buying imho.. not even sure if its dvd9

good thing i did not buy this.. there's a special edition released now. two disc with commentaries and stuff. with postcards and a leathercase holder. for 999. bought one at toycon2016. too bad wasnt able to have it signed by hen luna and emilio aguinaldo... huhu

https://web.facebook.com/Heneral.Luna/

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Re: Jerrold Tarog's Heneral Luna
« Reply #149 on: Jun 18, 2016 at 12:01 AM »