But if it can't be proven without the bible then we got an excuse.
Romans 1:20 "20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, SO THAT THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE"
Romans 1:20 is not saying that the things we see in nature are evidence for God's existence:
20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. (Rom. 1:20)This verse is not talking about the evidence for the existence of God. It is talking about understanding God's invisible qualities.
In this verse, the existence of God is a given. The existence of God is already known by the people who are "without excuse."
What have they clearly seen by way of understanding? God's invisible qualities. Not God's existence, which they already believe beforehand. How did they understand God's invisible qualities? They understood that
from what has been made by God.
Why say, "from what has been made"? Why not say, "from what we see in nature, which may have been made or may have spontaneously existed"? Because they already believe there is a maker and the maker is God. It's not a question of whether a creator exists; that is already the given premise for those people.
Those people, who already believe God exists, and already believe that God made everything, also clearly understood that God has eternal power and divine nature.
That is why the next verses start with the premise that those people already knew God:
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. (Rom. 1:21-23)Why are they without excuse?
Because those people who already believe God exists, and already believe God made everything, who also already clearly understood that God has eternal power and divine nature, neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to Him; instead, they exchanged the glory of God for images.
They are without excuse for not believing in the existence of God? No, pakahulugan lang ng pastor mo yon. They are without excuse for exchanging the glory of God for images.
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Hebrews 11:6 says:
6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.The verse requires that we should have
faith for two things: (a)
To believe God exists; and (b) To believe God rewards those who earnestly seek Him.
If it were possible to prove God exists by way of evidence, then faith would not be required. Yet the verse says we need faith to believe in the existence of God.
Therefore, it is not possible to prove the existence of God by way of evidence, because if it were possible to do so, then we would not need faith to believe in God's existence.
That is why Hebrews 11:3 says:
3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.By faith we understand.
What do we understand by faith? That the universe was formed at God's command.
Does it say "by evidence we prove"? No, it says "by faith we understand."
Why would you need faith if that can be proven? That is not correct. You need faith because it cannot be proven.
That is why Hebrews 11:1 says:
1 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.Faith is assurance about what we do not see. That
includes assurance in what we cannot prove. For example:
Do we know that Jose Rizal existed? Yes. How do you know if you did not see or witness the events that happened before you were born? Because they can be proven by evidence. Do you need faith to believe that Jose Rizal existed? No, all you need is evidence.
The bible says we need faith to believe God exists. Why do we need faith? Because God's existence cannot be proved.