Topic: 2015-2016 NBA Season

[the_w0rks]

haha

kelangan pa ba ng poll kung flop or hindi para lang maniwala yung super fan na talaga ngang flop?

[VenoM_Unleashed]

Haters Unite!!! 

[skoivan]

Hindi talaga tayo magkakaintindihan. Sabi ko nga una pa lang OA yung pagbagsak nya. Pero may foul. Kung flop or hindi, ayun galing na sa google yung definition ng flop pero magkakaiba pa din tayo ng definitions.

NBA definition, not google's: “Flopping” is defined as any physical act that appears to have been intended to cause the referees to call a foul on another player. The primary factor in determining whether a player committed a flop is whether his physical reaction to contact with another player is inconsistent with what would reasonably be expected given the force or direction of the contact.

So kung OA ang reaction, ibig sabihin, LeFlop nga.

[neilc]

Sus. Simple Lang bro. OA in basketball is flopping. Period.


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[oznola]

  I don't think anyone here disputes the fact that he is one of the best players in the NBA right now. What I don't get is how people could defend that acting job as if it were a natural reaction to a very weak looking swipe of an elbow. Even my kid brother who's a Lebron fan boy accuses me of being a hater just because I called out Lebron's Oscar worthy performance as a flop.

Hirap ba aminin na flopper idol nyo? E the evidence is indisputable.

I hate the acting, not the player. At least let's get that straight.

thats true. i guess ganun talaga pag inaapi mga idols just like how fans of kathneil and jadine and aldub are 

biro lang ha. masyado kayo seryoso sa pag flop! 

[frequenzy]

imho, hindi naman lage nag flop si lebron there are some legitimate hits na malakas talaga.

lebron didn't notice na si thompson yung nakatama sa kanya, I doub't magiging ganun reaction niya if he knows na team mate niya pala nakatama.

[frequenzy]

para sa akin flopping is ok, it's part of the game.

[bumblebee]

para sa akin flopping is ok, it's part of the game.

It's actually illegal.

[pao9307]

Sus. Simple Lang bro. OA in basketball is flopping. Period.


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Galing na yan mismo sa super fan nya, na OA nga pagkaka arte ni Lebron, pero ayaw pa ding tawaging flopping.

thats true. i guess ganun talaga pag inaapi mga idols just like how fans of kathneil and jadine and aldub are 

biro lang ha. masyado kayo seryoso sa pag flop! 

sinamahan mo ng mga artista, lalong magkaka gulo na

imho, hindi naman lage nag flop si lebron there are some legitimate hits na malakas talaga.

lebron didn't notice na si thompson yung nakatama sa kanya, I doub't magiging ganun reaction niya if he knows na team mate niya pala nakatama.

Yes bro, hindi naman natin sinasabi na all the time. Malakas talaga yung ibang hits on him. Yun nga lang pag nahuli sya, sobrang obvious naman. Nakakatawa lang talaga kasi na, gaya nung isang play vs the Mavs back in 2011 ata, ano yun, phantom hit?

[frequenzy]

It's actually illegal.

yup, it started last 2012 which I don't agree

[oznola]

sinamahan mo ng mga artista, lalong magkaka gulo na

wait, hindi ba pag "acting" ang pinag uusapan natin? 

[sirhc]

^Flopping is defined as an act to deceive the officials. Still okay with that?

[bumblebee]

yup, it started last 2012 which I don't agree

To some extent, I don't agree as well. Kung mga tipong maliliit na players ang mag flop, okay lang, lalo kung malaki ang bantay. Or yung mga tipo nina Rodman or Stephenson. But this is LBJ we're talking about. Not only is he big and strong, he's a franchise player. Hindi naaayon.

[skoivan]

To some extent, I don't agree as well. Kung mga tipong maliliit na players ang mag flop, okay lang, lalo kung malaki ang bantay. Or yung mga tipo nina Rodman or Stephenson. But this is LBJ we're talking about. Not only is he big and strong, he's a franchise player. Hindi naaayon.

Kahit maliliit na players, imo, dapat pareho lang ang pag-trato. Kung malaki yung nakabungo sa yo at talagang tumilapon ka dahil maliit ka, all is fair. Pero kahit na malaki pa yung nakabunggo sa yo pero di naman kalakasan, flopping pa din yun kung lumundag ka sa ere para makakuha ng foul sa ref.

yup, it started last 2012 which I don't agree

You don't agree that it is wrong and illegal to deceive the officials / promote unsportsmanlike behavior?

[puffalan84]

I used to think na ok mag-flop, it was a move that only smart players can sell.. kaya lang nung dumadami na, medyo alanganin na rin, nasisira yung mga refs and the game itself.

kung maglalalagay ng replay/review right after a suspected flop, then automatic technical with penalties, siguro wala ng gagawa nun.

[anya618]

di ba me fine ang flopping?

[pao9307]

di ba me fine ang flopping?

Wala, award for Best Actor meron.

[puffalan84]

di ba me fine ang flopping?

meron yata but i'm not sure, kaya lang dapat during the game ang review para technical agad..

[anya618]

meron yata but i'm not sure, kaya lang dapat during the game ang review para technical agad..

oo nga dapat during the game.

[pekspert]

di ba me fine ang flopping?

sa NHL ata meron, mas madami OA floppers sa NHL kasi legal ang tirahan. Nagkamali ng profession si LeFlop, dapat nag hockey player na lang siya.

[bumblebee]

Kahit maliliit na players, imo, dapat pareho lang ang pag-trato. Kung malaki yung nakabungo sa yo at talagang tumilapon ka dahil maliit ka, all is fair. Pero kahit na malaki pa yung nakabunggo sa yo pero di naman kalakasan, flopping pa din yun kung lumundag ka sa ere para makakuha ng foul sa ref.

Hindi naman kailangang malakas ang bunggo sayo para tumilapon ka. The thing is, if a big bodied player knows how to use his body to occupy space, kahit kasing tangkad nya bantay nya, aatras at atras yun, kahit wala masyadong force. What more kung maliit yung bantay.

Flopping used to be fun. Lalo kung role players gumagawa (Rodman on Malone). Pang-asar ba. Ewan ko ba kung bakit naisipan na gamitin ni LBJ.

[skoivan]

Hindi naman kailangang malakas ang bunggo sayo para tumilapon ka. The thing is, if a big bodied player knows how to use his body to occupy space, kahit kasing tangkad nya bantay nya, aatras at atras yun, kahit wala masyadong force. What more kung maliit yung bantay.

Ang point ko is if yung force nung pagkakabungo nung malaking player sa maliit na player ay enough para tumilapon siya, then all is fair. But if not, and the small player exaggerates the impact by flopping, then that is just as bad as a a big player like Lebron flopping. The size of the player shouldn't matter. Flopping is flopping.

[skoivan]

di ba me fine ang flopping?

Meron:

Violation 1: Warning
Violation 2: $5,000 fine
Violation 3: $10,000 fine
Violation 4: $15,000 fine
Violation 5: $30,000 fine

Wala, barya lang sa players. Dapat violation 2 may suspension na agad.

[jjlovemusic]

di ba me fine ang flopping?

yup meron sa nba. they will review the incident then penalize the player thru fine.
barya lang yung fine for flopping (arnd $5,000) compared sa salary ng superstar (million $), yet it gives the superstar an advantage towards the game kasi nakakuha ng offensive foul by flop, etc.,.
dapat talaga within the game pwede i-review within the game, then penalize the player afterwards, kaso lang ref's calls are always irreversible, atleast almost.

[frequenzy]

I used to think na ok mag-flop, it was a move that only smart players can sell.. kaya lang nung dumadami na, medyo alanganin na rin, nasisira yung mga refs and the game itself.

kung maglalalagay ng replay/review right after a suspected flop, then automatic technical with penalties, siguro wala ng gagawa nun.

+1
since i started playing basketball, i always thought that flopping is a talent

kapag tinawagan ng charge then nice one, kapag blocking then malas at better luck next time. although it's not pro ball i dont see the refs having a problem with it.

[jhelenz]

Hindi naman kailangang malakas ang bunggo sayo para tumilapon ka. The thing is, if a big bodied player knows how to use his body to occupy space, kahit kasing tangkad nya bantay nya, aatras at atras yun, kahit wala masyadong force. What more kung maliit yung bantay.

Flopping used to be fun. Lalo kung role players gumagawa (Rodman on Malone). Pang-asar ba. Ewan ko ba kung bakit naisipan na gamitin ni LBJ.

Yan ang isang bagay kung bakit naging hater ako ni lebron.i used to be a big fan nung bagong pasok sa nba.but slowly nawala nung lumipat sa miami,slight hater lang ako nun pero naging certified hater nung nag umpisa sya mag flop.flopping is accepatble only to role players,pero if you are considered to be a goat,no no para skin yun.sige nga magsabi kayo kung sino great players or mvp player nag fflop?

[skoivan]

dapat talaga within the game pwede i-review within the game, then penalize the player afterwards, kaso lang ref's calls are always irreversible, atleast almost.

Paano kaya kung bigyan ng NBA ang coaches ng "challenge" (sabihin na nating 1 challenge per half, or, forfeit ng isang timeout for a challenge) tulad sa tennis, na specifically for flopping... kung saan pwede nilang i-challenge ang isang foul call na sa tingin nila nag-flop yung finoul... tapos irereview ng refs yung play.

Tapos kung flop nga, technical foul dun sa flopper + ball possession dun sa na-agrabyado na team.

[sirhc]

Honest to goodness question lang to, lalo na nung game 3 ng cavs-raptors for diehard LeBron fans. What if that game was decided by LeBron's flop? A technical was called against the Raptors, Lebron shoots 2 freethrows then scored a double/triple on the next position, the raptors weren't able to answer back, the clock runs down. Cavs win by 2. Would you celebrate that win?

[oweidah]

http://www.therichest.com/sports/basketball-sports/the-10-most-valuable-floppers-in-the-nba-today/?view=all

tsktsktsk ang laking halimaw, kailangang pa umarte

next stop WWE

[puffalan84]

Honest to goodness question lang to, lalo na nung game 3 ng cavs-raptors for diehard LeBron fans. What if that game was decided by LeBron's flop? A technical was called against the Raptors, Lebron shoots 2 freethrows then scored a double/triple on the next position, the raptors weren't able to answer back, the clock runs down. Cavs win by 2. Would you celebrate that win?

ung mga fans yes, definitely, pero coaches of either team mukhang hinde, the usual reason kasi is that's just 1 play out of at least 100 possessions sa 1 game.. 

+1
since i started playing basketball, i always thought that flopping is a talent

kapag tinawagan ng charge then nice one, kapag blocking then malas at better luck next time. although it's not pro ball i dont see the refs having a problem with it.

Talent talaga bro, I saw Kiefer Ravena did it several times, pero ibang case yata ung sa charge, kasi it could go either way nga, pwedeng blocking or offensive foul, so may sugal dun.. Yung sa flop kasi, walang risk na technical or blocking/offensive foul pag ginawa eh..

I remember Pippen during his Bulls days against Magic, ilang beses nya ginawa yun, ang galing..