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« Reply #90 on: Jan 27, 2016 at 04:14 PM »
me ipinakita bang appointment papers si ka Felix na appointed sya ng God?
hindi ba salita lang nyan yon?
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« Reply #91 on: Jan 27, 2016 at 04:34 PM »
the point is inde nagtalaga ng angel or human messenger ang Panginoong Hesukristo para mga equip ng church, basa mo uli sa taas yung verse Eph 4:11 on wards.



eh paano nga kung sa pagblik ni Jesus sabihin nyang maramng palpak sa biblia, paano na?
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« Reply #92 on: Jan 27, 2016 at 04:36 PM »
pero me nabalitaan ka na ba na sang obispo ng katoliko, ipina-pahuli sa nbi ang lider ng ibang religion?

 Dati sir... Nasa history ng roman catholic... ;-) 

Hindi lang lider sir pati mga miyembro ng ibang religion pinagpapatay..

Kung anuman pinagdaanan noon ng RC malamang lamang pinagdadaanan din ng INC ngyon... Eventually malalampasan din naman nila ito tsaka wala pa sa kalingkingan ng mga pinaggagawa ng RC noon ang mga ginagawa ng mga namamahala ngayon ng INC.
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« Reply #93 on: Jan 27, 2016 at 07:10 PM »
Dati sir... Nasa history ng roman catholic... ;-) 

Hindi lang lider sir pati mga miyembro ng ibang religion pinagpapatay..

Kung anuman pinagdaanan noon ng RC malamang lamang pinagdadaanan din ng INC ngyon... Eventually malalampasan din naman nila ito tsaka wala pa sa kalingkingan ng mga pinaggagawa ng RC noon ang mga ginagawa ng mga namamahala ngayon ng INC.


maraming nasawi sa dark days ng RC, nasa history yan, pero natuto na ang simbahan...
sa makabagong panahon wala ng katulad ng sa INC....
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« Reply #94 on: Jan 27, 2016 at 11:24 PM »
Dati sir... Nasa history ng roman catholic... ;-) 

Hindi lang lider sir pati mga miyembro ng ibang religion pinagpapatay..

Kung anuman pinagdaanan noon ng RC malamang lamang pinagdadaanan din ng INC ngyon... Eventually malalampasan din naman nila ito tsaka wala pa sa kalingkingan ng mga pinaggagawa ng RC noon ang mga ginagawa ng mga namamahala ngayon ng INC.

Gumaganda lalo usapan dito papunta na tayo sa pinagugatan ng malaking kaguluhan sa pananampalatayang Christiano.

Hindi ba taon taon may namamatay sa Quipo tuwing may prosisyon ng Itim na Nazareno. Off topic na ito. ;D

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« Reply #95 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 12:36 AM »
maraming nasawi sa dark days ng RC, nasa history yan, pero natuto na ang simbahan...
sa makabagong panahon wala ng katulad ng sa INC....

hindi tayo nakakasiguro nyan... one thing is for sure... sa na experienced ng RC before... they now know how to hide their corruptions and transgressions na kung saan kahit mga miyembro nila hindi rin alam :):):)

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« Reply #96 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 08:38 AM »
Gumaganda lalo usapan dito papunta na tayo sa pinagugatan ng malaking kaguluhan sa pananampalatayang Christiano.

Hindi ba taon taon may namamatay sa Quipo tuwing may prosisyon ng Itim na Nazareno. Off topic na ito. ;D


ang mga namatay, hindi pinatay.....kagustuhan ng may katawan yon....pananampalataya nya...
ibang usapan kung ang member ng simbahan ay dinukot, tinorture, at pinatay.....
malaki ang pinagkaiba nyan....
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« Reply #97 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 08:41 AM »
hindi tayo nakakasiguro nyan... one thing is for sure... sa na experienced ng RC before... they now know how to hide their corruptions and transgressions na kung saan kahit mga miyembro nila hindi rin alam :):):)



walang krimen na maitatago......lahat ng baho sumisingaw...
ako maraming nabalitaan.....simple lang naman ang explanations diya....
eh kasi tao lang sila.....kaya nga ang sa akin,
kung nagkasala, kasuhan sa korte, ikulong, simple as that...
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« Reply #98 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 09:00 AM »
walang krimen na maitatago......lahat ng baho sumisingaw...
ako maraming nabalitaan.....simple lang naman ang explanations diya....
eh kasi tao lang sila.....kaya nga ang sa akin,
kung nagkasala, kasuhan sa korte, ikulong, simple as that...

yup agree but to assume that 

sa makabagong panahon wala ng katulad ng sa INC....

ay hindi ako sang-ayon... baka nga mas malala pa ang RC sa kasalukuyan... di lang obvious or di lang nailalabas kasi majority ditto sa Pilipinas ay RC pati halos majority ng ating mga kapulisan/pulitiko...

gasino lang ba ang INC - 2% of total population :(:(:(
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« Reply #99 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 09:02 AM »
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sa makabagong panahon wala ng katulad ng sa INC....

what i mean here is that no more of the harassment like that of Menorca's....

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ay hindi ako sang-ayon... baka nga mas malala pa ang RC sa kasalukuyan... di lang obvious or di lang nailalabas kasi majority ditto sa Pilipinas ay RC pati halos majority ng ating mga kapulisan/pulitiko...

posible yan...pero......
eh ang mga born against meron din, ginamit sila ng CIA para sa low intensity conflict to fight communism....
« Last Edit: Jan 28, 2016 at 09:05 AM by tony »
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« Reply #100 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 07:19 PM »
ang mga namatay, hindi pinatay.....kagustuhan ng may katawan yon....pananampalataya nya...
ibang usapan kung ang member ng simbahan ay dinukot, tinorture, at pinatay.....
malaki ang pinagkaiba nyan....

are you saying no one should held accountable? kahit na mamatay ang member sa pagtupad sa isang gawain na ipinaniwala sa kanya na itoy ukol sa Dyos?

thats why malakas ang loob ng mga Lider ng relihiyon magturo ng wala sa wisyo hugas kamay sila palagi...

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« Reply #101 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 08:04 PM »
are you saying no one should held accountable? kahit na mamatay ang member sa pagtupad sa isang gawain na ipinaniwala sa kanya na itoy ukol sa Dyos?

thats why malakas ang loob ng mga Lider ng relihiyon magturo ng wala sa wisyo hugas kamay sila palagi...

you have to understand na hndi sila pinilit dumalo,
 kusang loob silang nagtungo sa kanilang kamatayan...
kahit ang simbahan mismo hindi hinihikayat ang mga ganyang gawain,
pero part of religious freedom yan, right or wrong,
i even think it is wrong but but what to do?

sino sa palagay mo ang dapat managot?


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thats why malakas ang loob ng mga Lider ng relihiyon magturo ng wala sa wisyo hugas kamay sila palagi...

totoo yan....lahat ng religion naitatag para magkamal ng salapi at kapangyarihan....
« Last Edit: Jan 28, 2016 at 08:07 PM by tony »
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« Reply #102 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM »
eh paano nga kung sa pagblik ni Jesus sabihin nyang maramng palpak sa biblia, paano na?

marami namang pumalpak sa bible, si David, si Moses, si Solomon at iba pa...

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« Reply #104 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 05:26 PM »
THIS forum ought to remained fundamentally a sounding-board of INK atrocities. This church is a clear and present danger - against our right to be governed by honestly-elected officials, and have a "fair deal" in life. How can any one of you here getting a fair deal in this culture when even your driver's license, your car plates, your national and local police honchos, even your receiver/TV standard - is being purloined or poached by this church? Yes, as thorough they are in putting their own people in the plummiest positions in the PNP, the LTO, the Ombudsman, etcetera - the INK has even coerced the government by 2005 to adopt the NHK (Japan) TV standard or ISDB-T for the migration to digital TV broadcasting. Whats contentious about this coercion (done during the Arroyo years where the INK has gained tremendous concessions due to the weak and corrosively corrupt tenancy of Gloria Arroyo) is the fact that if the Philippines were to adopt ISDB-T as our standard, its more expensive for the millions of DTV subscribers, and it runs crosscurrent against much of the world's de facto standard.

Why should a church, out of all people, maneuvers the NTC to adopt a more expensive, technically-limited, broadcast standard when people in the Americas, Europe and Asia has chosen DVB-T altogether? Its because the INK TV station (Net 25, et al.) is setting its digital migration to the Japanese standard.
But some sober heads in the NTC prevailed against the scheme, the schemer was overruled.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing - Edmund Burke.....




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« Reply #105 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 05:40 PM »
what should be done, what are you doing ^^^

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« Reply #106 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 07:18 PM »
THIS forum ought to remained fundamentally a sounding-board of INK atrocities. This church is a clear and present danger - against our right to be governed by honestly-elected officials, and have a "fair deal" in life. How can any one of you here getting a fair deal in this culture when even your driver's license, your car plates, your national and local police honchos, even your receiver/TV standard - is being purloined or poached by this church? Yes, as thorough they are in putting their own people in the plummiest positions in the PNP, the LTO, the Ombudsman, etcetera - the INK has even coerced the government by 2005 to adopt the NHK (Japan) TV standard or ISDB-T for the migration to digital TV broadcasting. Whats contentious about this coercion (done during the Arroyo years where the INK has gained tremendous concessions due to the weak and corrosively corrupt tenancy of Gloria Arroyo) is the fact that if the Philippines were to adopt ISDB-T as our standard, its more expensive for the millions of DTV subscribers, and it runs crosscurrent against much of the world's de facto standard.

Why should a church, out of all people, maneuvers the NTC to adopt a more expensive, technically-limited, broadcast standard when people in the Americas, Europe and Asia has chosen DVB-T altogether? Its because the INK TV station (Net 25, et al.) is setting its digital migration to the Japanese standard.
But some sober heads in the NTC prevailed against the scheme, the schemer was overruled.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing - Edmund Burke.....

Ang alam ko, ABS-CBN ang naging major influence sa ISB-T. Though you are right. Dapat hindi tayo ISB-T. Dapat japanese standard tayo.

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« Reply #107 on: Feb 01, 2016 at 06:05 PM »
THIS forum ought to remained fundamentally a sounding-board of INK atrocities. This church is a clear and present danger - against our right to be governed by honestly-elected officials, and have a "fair deal" in life. How can any one of you here getting a fair deal in this culture when even your driver's license, your car plates, your national and local police honchos, even your receiver/TV standard - is being purloined or poached by this church? Yes, as thorough they are in putting their own people in the plummiest positions in the PNP, the LTO, the Ombudsman, etcetera - the INK has even coerced the government by 2005 to adopt the NHK (Japan) TV standard or ISDB-T for the migration to digital TV broadcasting. Whats contentious about this coercion (done during the Arroyo years where the INK has gained tremendous concessions due to the weak and corrosively corrupt tenancy of Gloria Arroyo) is the fact that if the Philippines were to adopt ISDB-T as our standard, its more expensive for the millions of DTV subscribers, and it runs crosscurrent against much of the world's de facto standard.

Why should a church, out of all people, maneuvers the NTC to adopt a more expensive, technically-limited, broadcast standard when people in the Americas, Europe and Asia has chosen DVB-T altogether? Its because the INK TV station (Net 25, et al.) is setting its digital migration to the Japanese standard.
But some sober heads in the NTC prevailed against the scheme, the schemer was overruled.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing - Edmund Burke.....




what should be done, what are you doing ^^^

I would suggest is to Boycott their candidate for this coming election.

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« Reply #108 on: Feb 02, 2016 at 12:04 PM »
For the INC vote, I see a toss between Mar and Grace.  ;)
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« Reply #110 on: Feb 13, 2016 at 05:48 AM »
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« Reply #111 on: Feb 13, 2016 at 06:53 AM »
Naguuwi ng mga items from hotels tapos ilalagay sa cr nila... Harap harapang iniiputan sa ulo ang lalaki ;-) ... Tanga ba ang babae para gawin niya iyon?
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« Reply #112 on: Feb 13, 2016 at 06:56 AM »
consentual sex exploited to the hilt....
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« Reply #113 on: Feb 16, 2016 at 07:27 AM »
battle shifts ground.... america

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« Reply #114 on: Feb 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM »
For the INC vote, I see a toss between Mar and Grace.  ;)

anyone from the yellow ay di kkunin ng inc anyone also who is recommended by abs cbn

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« Reply #115 on: Feb 26, 2016 at 08:59 AM »
^ I agree, my guess it is split between Mar and Poe

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« Reply #116 on: Mar 03, 2016 at 11:29 AM »
Pakana ba ng INC ang mga "iboykot ang ABS-CBN" posters?
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« Reply #117 on: Mar 11, 2016 at 11:08 AM »
INC child brainwashing video  :o
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« Reply #118 on: Mar 11, 2016 at 11:17 AM »
What I experienced from their sunday "classes" for children is far worse than that. All that brainwashing minus the cute kids and that catchy tune.
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« Reply #119 on: Mar 11, 2016 at 11:28 AM »
there was this young kid who visited us and told me, "kaya hindi kayo mayaman, kasi hindi kayo INC member"...
say what? how can a young boy of about ten years old able to say that and why?
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