Topic: Priestly abuse in the Philippines

[Klaus Weasley]

The Catholic Church is a powerful force in the Philippines. Apart from the occasional "scandal" of a priest impregnating a woman here and there, I hear nothing of a priest molesting a child here. Imposible naman na totally wala. Ang dami-daming simbahan dito. Meron yata yun. I just want to know if you know of anyone who's been molested/raped/abused by a priest but was kept a secret by the Church. 

[tony]

hindi ka pa tao, nangyayari na yan, binasa mo ba ang mga nobela ni Rizal?

sino ang tunay ama ni Maria Clara?

[oweidah]

juicy chisms yan ah

[tony]

wala namang bago sa mga abuso ng paring katoliko.....lumang balita na yan...

[Klaus Weasley]

wala namang bago sa mga abuso ng paring katoliko.....lumang balita na yan...

I've heard no news of priests getting arrested for molesting/abusing children in the Philippines. Please do point it out to me if I'm overlooking anything.

[oweidah]

cased close

[tony]

perhaps the news media do not find such cases as newsworthy, that is why...
i suggest you contact new media and ask them why....

[leomarley]

yup di naman bago yan. I've heard, watched, and read alot of stories of pedophile priests here. Problem is, no one would dare prosecute a Catholic priest here dahil ang una nilang babanggain diyan ay ang CBCP which is the number one protector of these pedophiles. Magaling silang mag-cover up. I doubt politicians would also dare to go against them. Why? kailangan ng mga politician ang basbas ng CBCP. Tignan niyo na lang si Duterte. Babangga bangga kuno pero tiklop din naman. Secularism here is nothing but ink on paper.

[leomarley]

A 2004 report by the non-government group Catholics for Free Choice and Likhaan stated that no priest accused of sexual abuse in the Philippines has been successfully prosecuted.

Most of the clergy accused of sexual abuse settled cases out of court, were acquitted, or moved to other parishes by their bishops. There were also priests with pending court cases who were quietly reinstated to pastoral duties, the report said.

http://www.ucanews.com/news/philippine-bishops-accused-of-abuse-cover-up/68411

Classic Catholic Church cover up. That's also how they do it on other countries.

[tony]

settled out of court, that is key....

[tony]

juicy chisms yan ah

hndi chismax, pareng kastila ang ama ni maria clara.....

[leomarley]

settled out of court, that is key....

problem is, crimes like these should not be settled out of court. worst that the government can do is a slap on the wrist.

The government treats a supposedly civil case as a criminal case (libel) then treats a criminal case as a civil case (Catholic pedophile priests).

[oweidah]

hndi chismax, pareng kastila ang ama ni maria clara.....

hmmm clue naman ? cya ba un magaling sa dama, so...?

[dpogs]

The Catholic Church is a powerful force in the Philippines. Apart from the occasional "scandal" of a priest impregnating a woman here and there, I hear nothing of a priest molesting a child here. Imposible naman na totally wala. Ang dami-daming simbahan dito. Meron yata yun. I just want to know if you know of anyone who's been molested/raped/abused by a priest but was kept a secret by the Church. 

Si Duterte nun teen siya... Saka dami na mga kaso... Kaw naman... Basa basa kasi ng balita hindi puro movie lang... ;-)

[rascal101]

The Catholic Church is a powerful force in the Philippines. Apart from the occasional "scandal" of a priest impregnating a woman here and there, I hear nothing of a priest molesting a child here. Imposible naman na totally wala. Ang dami-daming simbahan dito. Meron yata yun. I just want to know if you know of anyone who's been molested/raped/abused by a priest but was kept a secret by the Church. 

Bakit nga ba panay Katolikong simbahan pinupuntirya mo. Lumalabas niyan galit ka eh. Ganun din ibang tao simabahang Katoliko rin laging pinupuntirya. Eh kung ikaw na lang puntiryahin ng ibang tao at kakalkalin mga kalokohan mo palagay ko may makikita kami. Hindi ka na puwedeng magmalinis o hindi kaya hindi ka na puwedeng magsabi ng masamang damo ka kasi baka masamang masamang damo ka talaga.

Pakiusap lang huwag kang pumuntirya ng iba at baka ikaw din mapuntiryahang balang araw. At sa aking palagay hindi mo magugustuhan.

[leomarley]

Bakit nga ba panay Katolikong simbahan pinupuntirya mo. Lumalabas niyan galit ka eh. Ganun din ibang tao simabahang Katoliko rin laging pinupuntirya. Eh kung ikaw na lang puntiryahin ng ibang tao at kakalkalin mga kalokohan mo palagay ko may makikita kami. Hindi ka na puwedeng magmalinis o hindi kaya hindi ka na puwedeng magsabi ng masamang damo ka kasi baka masamang masamang damo ka talaga.

Pakiusap lang huwag kang pumuntirya ng iba at baka ikaw din mapuntiryahang balang araw. At sa aking palagay hindi mo magugustuhan.

why the need to get so personal? relax lang sir. he's not dissing a person. he's dissing an organization.

[rascal101]

@Klaus, kung wala ka rin magagawang kabutihan mabuti pang manood ka na lang ng sangkatutak na pelikula at sabihin sa amin kung anu ano ang pananaw mo.

Imbes na tumira ka bakit hindi mo bigyang pugay mga ginagawang kabutihan ng Katolikong simbahan. Bakit ba hindi ka marunong magmahal o magbigay ng tulong sa mga nangangailangan? Bakit ba laging tira? May kasabihan nga ng kung sino madalas magsumbong siya rin ang may sala. Samakatuwid ginagawa mo rin ito pero gusto mong ikubli ang ginawa mo sa pagpuntirya ng iba.

[rascal101]

why the need to get so personal? relax lang sir. he's not dissing a person. he's dissing an organization.

Lagi na lang niya ginagawa kaya personal para sa kanya tumira tsaka miyembro ako ng simbahan - kaya tinitira niya rin ako. Sinasabi niya hinahayaan natin mga pari kaya gumagawa sila ng kalokohan.

[Klaus Weasley]

Bakit nga ba panay Katolikong simbahan pinupuntirya mo. Lumalabas niyan galit ka eh. Ganun din ibang tao simabahang Katoliko rin laging pinupuntirya. Eh kung ikaw na lang puntiryahin ng ibang tao at kakalkalin mga kalokohan mo palagay ko may makikita kami. Hindi ka na puwedeng magmalinis o hindi kaya hindi ka na puwedeng magsabi ng masamang damo ka kasi baka masamang masamang damo ka talaga.

Pakiusap lang huwag kang pumuntirya ng iba at baka ikaw din mapuntiryahang balang araw. At sa aking palagay hindi mo magugustuhan.

The Catholic Church is very powerful organization in the Philippines who takes it upon themselves to impose moral authority over people. OF COURSE, it needs to be criticized and taken down AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE because I do believe they're every bit as corrupt as our government. The fact that they have so much sway in our political system is one of the reasons hindi tayo nakakaunlad as a nation.

Rizal has warned us of Padre Damaso's and Padre Salvi's. We still have not learned that lesson.

(NOTE: Before you say anything else, no, I was never molested by a priest.)

[DVD_Freak]

why the need to get so personal? relax lang sir. he's not dissing a person. he's dissing an organization.

Because one's religion is indeed personal.  There's no other way around it.  Whether your a Catholic, Christian, Muslim, etc... all treat their own religion as personal.  It's just the way it is.

[DVD_Freak]

The Catholic Church is very powerful organization in the Philippines who takes it upon themselves to impose moral authority over people. OF COURSE, it needs to be criticized and taken down AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE because I do believe they're every bit as corrupt as our government. The fact that they have so much sway in our political system is one of the reasons hindi tayo nakakaunlad as a nation.

Rizal has warned us of Padre Damaso's and Padre Salvi's. We still have not learned that lesson.

(NOTE: Before you say anything else, no, I was never molested by a priest.)

So it's no longer about Priests even if the title of the thread says so?  It's really about the Catholic Church?

Klaus do you still go to church every Sunday with your parents?

[leomarley]

Because one's religion is indeed personal.  There's no other way around it.  Whether your a Catholic, Christian, Muslim, etc... all treat their own religion as personal.  It's just the way it is.

He's not criticizing the members but how the organization handles pedophile priests. He's not criticizing how people pray, or give praise to their God. He's criticizing those who handle the organization not the religion.

[DVD_Freak]

He's not criticizing the members but how the organization handles pedophile priests. He's not criticizing how people pray, or give praise to their God. He's criticizing those who handle the organization not the religion.

He just said so himself......

The Catholic Church is very powerful organization in the Philippines who takes it upon themselves to impose moral authority over people. OF COURSE, it needs to be criticized and taken down AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE because I do believe they're every bit as corrupt as our government.

It's no longer about the priests... which the title clearly states.

[leomarley]

He's still criticizing the organization. How the clergy runs things. Klaus is not attacking how you want to praise God. The discussion was about pedophile priests until rascal made did personal.

[leomarley]

Instead of attacking the person who made the argument, why not counter his argument and point out why he's wrong? Logic and reasoning. Not everything should be taken personally.

[DVD_Freak]

He's still criticizing the organization. How the clergy runs things. Klaus is not attacking how you want to praise God. The discussion was about pedophile priests until rascal made did personal.

So that would mean the thread really is about the organization.  Why title the thread Priestly abuse then if in the last post.... there was no mention of a case of priestly abuse whatsoever?  Then change the title CATHOLIC CHURCH ABUSES.

[leomarley]

So that would mean the thread really is about the organization.  Why title the thread Priestly abuse then if in the last post.... there was no mention of a case of priestly abuse whatsoever?  Then change the title CATHOLIC CHURCH ABUSES.

Don't be dense sir. The thread was about pedophile priests until rascal made it personal.

[DVD_Freak]

Don't be dense sir. The thread was about pedophile priests until rascal made it personal.

Dense?  I know iba POV natin.  Atheist right?  If the organization naman talaga ang target, then be brave enough to title the thread appropriately.

So where was the pedophile priests in his post?

The Catholic Church is very powerful organization in the Philippines who takes it upon themselves to impose moral authority over people. OF COURSE, it needs to be criticized and taken down AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE because I do believe they're every bit as corrupt as our government. The fact that they have so much sway in our political system is one of the reasons hindi tayo nakakaunlad as a nation.

Rizal has warned us of Padre Damaso's and Padre Salvi's. We still have not learned that lesson.

(NOTE: Before you say anything else, no, I was never molested by a priest.)

[leomarley]

That was a reply to rascal. Read the posts before rascal posted his personal attack against Klaus. Again, thread was about pedophile priests UNTIL RASCAL MADE IT PERSONAL.

[leomarley]

And again, I'm no atheist. I'm just secular. I don't follow any religion.