Topic: TRIODE Brand Tube Amps

[juanderer]

anyone had any experience with triode tube amps? care to share any insights.

how are they compared to other brands, are they reliable?

thanks

[Gino]

You need to earmark funds for maintenance. Sometimes tubes and other components fail. It is part of life with tubes.

[tony]

^yes, tube amps are never bullet proof....

DHT tubes, like the 300b, 2A3 and 845 can have shorter life span
simply because they are run in classA and operates on the brink,
and that is because that is where they sound their best...

so if you have the means, and deeper wallet, then go ahead,
if not, better go solid state....

there are however tube amps that cost less than the usual triodes
if you are not allergic to mere tv tubes....

[juanderer]

thanks for the replies.

sir tony, I'm not familiar with DHT. but a quick check at the net gave me an idea.


I asked the question because I don't see this brand "TRIODE" often in this forum nor anyones feedback on its performance. not sure if anyone is using it.

[juanderer]

on a diff note, 

are there DIY people who do clones of commercially produced tube amps for a lesser cost ? or since it is DIY it will cost more than the commercially produced one?

[tony]

on a diff note, 

are there DIY people who do clones of commercially produced tube amps for a lesser cost ? or since it is DIY it will cost more than the commercially produced one?

there are many local talents, Andrew Sevilla is one, Rene Rivo is another,
Ronald DeJesus, Erik Flores and a lot others, they are on facebook....
contrary to popular belief, it is cheaper to buy a branded amp....
DIY is expensive, even though they may appear to be cheaper in price...

the thing to consider heavily is the after sales service, as tube amps
require maintenance...

[juanderer]

there are many local talents, Andrew Sevilla is one, Rene Rivo is another,
Ronald DeJesus, Erik Flores and a lot others, they are on facebook....
contrary to popular belief, it is cheaper to buy a branded amp....
DIY is expensive, even though they may appear to be cheaper in price...

the thing to consider heavily is the after sales service, as tube amps
require maintenance...

mataas ba sir labor charge sa DIY projects?

so for people who are the plug and play type and doesn't know how to tinker with electronics mas ok to stick with a solid state amp na lang?


salamat sa mga reply sir tony.



back to triode. hope to try one in the future.   

[tony]

mataas ba sir labor charge sa DIY projects?

of course.....
minsan me nag-inquire sa akin, magkano labor charge mo?
gusto ko sanang sagutin na, "hindi po ako laborer......"
i chose to ignore na lang.....

tubes are more expensive than solid sate amps.....

[muypogi]

anyone had any experience with triode tube amps? care to share any insights.

how are they compared to other brands, are they reliable?

thanks

Had one yung Kt88 model.

Triode is a Japanese brand, similar in positioning to Leben.

Very robust build and a cut above the usual China made amp.

That being said, it uses stock China tubes. I changed the preamp tubes to NOS and the power tubes to the Russian reissue Gold Lions and the sound improved by quite a bit.



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[parasound]

To add the tedious process of winding the power & opt transformer, making holes and polishing or painting the chassis manually . Plus the quality parts the builder will use, for example the quality of irons (IE) to be use for power and opt transformer, capacitors, resistors etc etc. that makes the DIY Tube Amp more expensive compared to Mass Production readily available solid state or tube amp in the market.


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[parasound]

Triode Amp - http://www.triode.co.jp/en/contents/main/home.htm

I think i saw a Triode KT88 integrated amp posted at the market place, if i where you schedule time to check and audition the unit.


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[juanderer]

Had one yung Kt88 model.

Triode is a Japanese brand, similar in positioning to Leben.

Very robust build and a cut above the usual China made amp.

That being said, it uses stock China tubes. I changed the preamp tubes to NOS and the power tubes to the Russian reissue Gold Lions and the sound improved by quite a bit.



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they are priced higher than the china brand as well.

[juanderer]

To add the tedious process of winding the power & opt transformer, making holes and polishing or painting the chassis manually . Plus the quality parts the builder will use, for example the quality of irons (IE) to be use for power and opt transformer, capacitors, resistors etc etc. that makes the DIY Tube Amp more expensive compared to Mass Production readily available solid state or tube amp in the market.


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are transformers used for DIY projects really built-up from scratch ?

[tony]

thanks for the replies.

sir tony, I'm not familiar with DHT. but a quick check at the net gave me an idea.


I asked the question because I don't see this brand "TRIODE" often in this forum nor anyones feedback on its performance. not sure if anyone is using it.

why clone when you can design and build better?

[muypogi]

they are priced higher than the china brand as well.

Correct but you do get what you pay for . . . Check out the pics of the Triode and Leben amps and the quality of the wiring and components.


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[tony]

are transformers used for DIY projects really built-up from scratch ?

i suggest that you pay a visit to Edrel Sison's work shop at EPZA in rosario cavite, (i have been there many times) and see for yourself...

[juanderer]

why clone when you can design and build better?

that's what I thought   but knowing the price diff between a DIY project and a mass market one. better to skip the idea na lang. unless you try to learn how to do it by yourself

[juanderer]

Correct but you do get what you pay for . . . Check out the pics of the Triode and Leben amps and the quality of the wiring and components.

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yes, saw it na from the reviews. internals of the triode

[juanderer]

i suggest that you pay a visit to Edrel Sison's work shop at EPZA in rosario cavite, (i have been there many times) and see for yourself...

nakita ko na sir tony, sa mga thread dito. baka kako they prefer na sila gumawa instead of buying a ready made one.

[tony]

pm mo siya, to give you an idea,, if you spend the same amount
of money on a local diy that you will spend on a branded, i am sure you will get more amplifier iron kilograms than branded ones...

[parasound]

Yes they are, unless if you are willing to spend more on exotic output transformer. Maraming choices sa output transformer, there is some case na makakabili ka na ng branded / ready made tube amplifier sa presyo pa lang ng output transformer.

are transformers used for DIY projects really built-up from scratch ?

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[shrek7]

some exotic OPT's are much expensive than a brand new tube amplifier... Edrels, OpT's are really good! its been the choice of diyers here in Cebu! well built, great cores!

[parasound]

some exotic OPT's are much expensive than a brand new tube amplifier... Edrels, OpT's are really good! its been the choice of diyers here in Cebu! well built, great cores!

+100


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[choyb]

mataas ba sir labor charge sa DIY projects?

so for people who are the plug and play type and doesn't know how to tinker with electronics mas ok to stick with a solid state amp na lang?


salamat sa mga reply sir tony.



back to triode. hope to try one in the future.

@juanderer, Sir Tony is being humble, he is one of the acknowledge Tube Amp Gurus we have in the Philippines, along with those he mentioned.

Mabait siya kausap!

[tony]

@juanderer, Sir Tony is being humble, he is one of the acknowledge Tube Amp Gurus we have in the Philippines, along with those he mentioned.

Mabait siya kausap!

thank you Choy, but i am not a seller of amps, i make them as a hobby,
but this is not to say i will not sell my amps, but only to those who
thinks in much the same way i do......i do not sell amps as a "bread and
butter thing", money has never been a motivation.,.
katuwaan lang......and if i will not be having fun, i will not do it...

[tony]

some exotic OPT's are much expensive than a brand new tube amplifier... Edrels, OpT's are really good! its been the choice of diyers here in Cebu! well built, great cores!

Victor Sierra, and Brady Lucero of Cebu, i met them at the Dusit Hotel
last november, Brady, Edrel and me had a blast.......

while some will say that tube amps are about tubes, i say that tube amps are really about the transformers used....
tubes are easy, just buy the ones you like and stick them in....

[juanderer]

pm mo siya, to give you an idea,, if you spend the same amount
of money on a local diy that you will spend on a branded, i am sure you will get more amplifier iron kilograms than branded ones...

thanks sir, will take note of this for now.

[juanderer]

Yes they are, unless if you are willing to spend more on exotic output transformer. Maraming choices sa output transformer, there is some case na makakabili ka na ng branded / ready made tube amplifier sa presyo pa lang ng output transformer.

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oh, ganon pala yon. thanks sa info. parang nabasa ko nga the bigger the transformer the better