Topic: November Hifi show 2024

[noob]

it is on Nov 16-17, 2024, same place..

[Superman]

Yes Nov. 16 and 17 at Dusit Thani Makati

[lithium_deuteride]

Noticeably less attendees.  Maybe it’s because of the typhoon threat or maybe, hifi hobbyists are getting fewer.

[synchro_01]

Millenials and Gen Zs....have zero to no interest in this hobby

[Pipo_1925]

Millenials and Gen Zs....have zero to no interest in this hobby

Millennial ako bro pero may interest naman ako sa ganitong hobby. Siguro 1% ng Millennial may interest sa ganitong hobby and kasama ako don.

[RastaSega]

millenials and genz love vinyl. Uso e. Kaso only a few have the capacity to buy and appreciate high end audio in such a format.

[synchro_01]

millenials and genz love vinyl. Uso e. Kaso only a few have the capacity to buy and appreciate high end audio in such a format.

True. They would rather save up for the next Iphone release or the next Mac.

[t-bone]

millenials and genz love vinyl. Uso e. Kaso only a few have the capacity to buy and appreciate high end audio in such a format.

Crazy pricing na kasi yung High end Audio.

Dati audio hobby was more affordable.

[Own7]

Crazy pricing na kasi yung High end Audio.

Dati audio hobby was more affordable.

Not necessarily pricing ang problema, maliit lang kasi market ng hi end
Audio dito sa pinas, tapos hirap mag benta ng 2nd hand kung gusto mo
Mag upgrade.

Magtataka ka pricing ngayun ng mga luxury watches, cars, bikes kahit
Mga alak; na daang libo presyo and mga patuloy din ang pagtatas.

[at_sunset_blvd]

Iphone/Smartphone + wireless earbuds +  Bluetooth home speakers. mostly pwedi na sa mga tao nowadays 

[synchro_01]

I was fortunate to have attended both the HiFi show here in the Philippines and Audio shows in the US during 2013 to 2017.  One thing that I noticed is that the hobby mostly caters to a specific age bracket let alone a specific income bracket.  Bihira ako nakakita ng mga bata during the shows that I attended before.

that specific age bracket gets older and older by the year. The hobby isnt attracting new markets

[t-bone]

Iphone/Smartphone + wireless earbuds +  Bluetooth home speakers. mostly pwedi na sa mga tao nowadays 

Very affordable kasi. Hence very attractive to newbie music lovers.

[synchro_01]

Very affordable kasi. Hence very attractive to newbie music lovers.

not only that...it is specifically designed to be enjoyed on the go....whenever and wherever you are. 

[Arulco]

Iphone/Smartphone + wireless earbuds +  Bluetooth home speakers. mostly pwedi na sa mga tao nowadays 

The baseline sound quality and output aren't all that bad on these devices to begin with which is probably why most young folks are just fine with the audio quality and tend to enjoy the music without feeling the need for something that sounds better. Plus for some kids, parang fashion statement yung naka AirPods or something. To be fair, the newer AirPods do sound decent enough.

When I was a youth, I had put up with low fidelity in terms of noise/hiss and distortion because all I could afford was a cheap-ass walkman, earphones and cassette tapes. Pati car stereo namin tunog lata. Turn up the volume, sabog na. That's why as soon as I could afford it, I kept on chasing higher fidelity audio upgrades ever since although since about several years ago, I seem to have reached my endgame in terms of audio hardware and just enjoy music with minimal hassle without thinking much about sound quality.

[radiohead]

I tried influencing my younger nephews to get into the hobby. Initially they were very interested, specially with vinyl and turntables. However, they weren’t really invested in the hobby in the sense that they didn’t go out of their way to study the intricacies of the hobby - things as simple as setting the tracking force of a cartridge (even if i gave them a digital scale), changing RCA jacks, cleaning the stylus, etc. In the end they settled for Spotify and nice bluetooth speakers. In this case money wasn’t really a hindrance, it was more the lack of dedication and will to be more knowledgeable in the hobby. They would rather settle for ease of use over nice sound quality.

[synchro_01]

^^^ There you go.

Let's admit it...generally speaking pang matanda itong hobby na ito hahaha.

[at_sunset_blvd]

^^^ There you go.

Let's admit it...generally speaking pang matanda itong hobby na ito hahaha.

just like seeing our dads before playing records, that's how our kids sees us today too. hehe

[Own7]

^^^ There you go.

Let's admit it...generally speaking pang matanda itong hobby na ito hahaha.

Naging blurred na kasi yung line between an “audiophile” and “music lover”. Pag
Audiophile ka you have to be equipment centric or an expert in analysing graphs
And data’s, you also have to be an analog expert/lover etc.


Some may argue na dahil music lover ka e hindi pwede audiophile ka na, true but
Both are music lovers kaya dapat walang discrimination from the audiophile community.
Naging parang mga elite group tuloy bordering on being snobbish.

[radiohead]

Naging blurred na kasi yung line between an “audiophile” and “music lover”. Pag
Audiophile ka you have to be equipment centric or an expert in analysing graphs
And data’s, you also have to be an analog expert/lover etc.


Some may argue na dahil music lover ka e hindi pwede audiophile ka na, true but
Both are music lovers kaya dapat walang discrimination from the audiophile community.
Naging parang mga elite group tuloy bordering on being snobbish.

It’s the classic question - do you listen to the music or to your gears? Ako kasi it’s always the music first. Of course I get a lot more satisfaction when i hear the music through my system, but I can also enjoy the music through other ways like bluetooth speakers, earphones, etc. Kanya kanya talaga. Some people are turned off with “Audiophiles” because they associate expensive gears with being an audiophile, which isn’t necessarily the case. Me personally, i cringe when my friends refer to me as an audiophile. I always correct them and say “i’m a music lover first and foremost”.

[Verbl Kint]

It's hard to be an audiophile if you're broke, to be honest.  And the time most people get enough money to buy really good audio gear is in their 30's, more so in the Philippines, where pay is a lot lower compared to the likes of Japan, Western EU, and the US.

What I do like about today is that the price of entry for music is a lot lower compared to the time when you had to save up to buy a cassette/CD.  Music is also a lot more accessible today than when I was a kid as the records available for sale in the Philippines were limited to what the record companies brought here.  If you listened to indie bands, electronica, acid jazz, or some weird musical genre (e.g. Jungle, Garage, "World Music"), you'd have to either buy abroad or pray for it to arrive at Tower Records, or, in the older days, Groove Nation / CD Warehouse. 

After Y2K, you could get lucky with pirated CD's but the audio quality was usually not as good, though.

[Own7]

It’s the classic question - do you listen to the music or to your gears? Ako kasi it’s always the music first. Of course I get a lot more satisfaction when i hear the music through my system, but I can also enjoy the music through other ways like bluetooth speakers, earphones, etc. Kanya kanya talaga. Some people are turned off with “Audiophiles” because they associate expensive gears with being an audiophile, which isn’t necessarily the case. Me personally, i cringe when my friends refer to me as an audiophile. I always correct them and say “i’m a music lover first and foremost”.

Parehas tayo....hate ko yang word na "audiophile", associated na yan sa elitista.