Topic: SURPLUS SPEAKERS

[buzzworth]

cge sir balitaan mo rin kami kung ano ung magagandang speaker ngayon sa pier?

at kung meron naman sa amplifier post mo naman sa kabilang thread..

I remember before pag pumupunta ako sa pier dala dala ko pa ung printout nung mga list from niji website...hehe pero syempre nde mo dapat papakita sa mga nagtitinda dun or else magkaka-idea sila..

just an update..i went to pier last weekend, kaunti na lang talaga ang mga padating nila. Yung mga amps wala ng mga rare item kung meron man mukhang naka reserved na, meron isang luxman don, may nakalagay na reserved  . sa mga speaker meron mga bagong dating pero hindi ganon kadami, at medyo mataas na ang bentahan.. sa mga naghahanap ng jbl na pang surround duty, meron akong nakita don pero di ko nailista yung model..hopefully nandoon pa yon since kaunti na din ang namimili ngayon don.

[gutchy]

tyempuhan na lang talaga ngayon..
pero kahit papano may ilan ilan pa rin
naman naliligaw na magandang items..

[sandawa]

I passed by a friendly junk Jap hifi importer here in Davao and found a pair of unusual speakers. These were released in mid-90s by Canon, the Japanese camera firm, but were made exclusively in UK designed by Allen Boothroyd of Meridian's Boothroyd and Stuart (http://www.stereophile.com/content/canon-s-35-loudspeaker) for worldwide distribution. It was originally quoted at $400 without the stands.

Canon stopped its hifi line after this but when the S-35 was out on the market, it was called Darth Vader, black jellyfish, mushroom, or helmet speakers. I'd agree with Stereophile's review of the S-35 and would even say it was a bit generous (Canon probably paid a full page ad). But then again, the S-35 is a rare speaker and would probably qualify to be in a museum that showcases industrial designs. So, I took this pair home.

I have to post the photos here -- not on Vintage Gallery thread -- since the S-35 does not qualify as vintage hifi.

with the original stands


removed from the stand


back of the speaker

[jbl4311]

Wow, unusual construction pero parang omnidirectional ang dating. Palagay ko ser ang lawak ng sweet spot nyan, or the whole room will be the sweet spot.
Congrats sir!

[sandawa]

Salamat, yes it's omni-directional. I was supposed to pick up an old Leak 2060 (sandwich-type woofers) just for collection last Monday but there's a croaking sound from one of the speakers when I tested it with the volume reasonably pumped up. So, I bought the Canon S-35 instead.

What's good about the S-35 is that my wife likes it a lot. She thinks it sounds impressive and yes, she also noted she couldn't locate where the sound was coming from. Very nice for a condo unit, she said, since it produces 'good sound' plus its artsy look.

[molins]

Salamat, yes it's omni-directional. I was supposed to pick up an old Leak 2060 (sandwich-type woofers) just for collection last Monday but there's a croaking sound from one of the speakers when I tested it with the volume reasonably pumped up. So, I bought the Canon S-35 instead.

What's good about the S-35 is that my wife likes it a lot. She thinks it sounds impressive and yes, she also noted she couldn't locate where the sound was coming from. Very nice for a condo unit, she said, since it produces 'good sound' plus its artsy look.

congrats sir sandawa, parang R2d2 ang look,  , btw, saan sa davao nakuha mo yan sir? baka meron pa isa? 

[buzzworth]

ang ganda sir...omni-directional and the design is really something. buti sir meron pang mga naliligaw na bago o magaganda diyan? so how was the price? may mga amp pa ba sir like sansui and marantz or onkyo?

[sandawa]

molins,

Got it from a trader who informs me of used hifi arrivals from Japan. Meron akong nakita nito 3 years ago, same source, pero walang stands kaya hindi ko kinuha. Malaking bagay yung original stands kasi this unconventional design needs optimum placement. BTW, the iron stand is 21 inches high to the base of the speaker assembly. Height from the ground to the co-axial speaker firing down is 26 inches. Weight per speaker including the stand is about 9 kgs. S-35 is flat black, except the sound diffuser below the "helmet" -- medyo basa pa ng Pledge nung kunan ko ng photos kaya uneven black ang lumabas.

buzzworth,

Yun lang mga nabanggit ko sa itaas ang notables plus Coral X-VII (12-inch woofer, NOS, with box and speakers still in sealed plastic wrap)). Bukod dun wala nang dumating dito. Ang balita ko meron pa sa Cebu -- last week may naka-jackpot ng newer model Luxman valve amp. Mas maganda daw compared sa SQ-38FD ko.

[molins]

molins,

Got it from a trader who informs me of used hifi arrivals from Japan. Meron akong nakita nito 3 years ago, same source, pero walang stands kaya hindi ko kinuha. Malaking bagay yung original stands kasi this unconventional design needs optimum placement. BTW, the iron stand is 21 inches high to the base of the speaker assembly. Height from the ground to the co-axial speaker firing down is 26 inches. Weight per speaker including the stand is about 9 kgs. S-35 is flat black, except the sound diffuser below the "helmet" -- medyo basa pa ng Pledge nung kunan ko ng photos kaya uneven black ang lumabas.

Thanks sir, swerte mo naman, undecided pa talaga ako kung ano kukunin ko, , wala pa ako makita talaga, btw, meron pa surplus speakers na kaya ng t-amp? and wala pa ba group listening session sa setup mo?baka makasingit ako,,

[sandawa]

Ang daming surplus speakers na pwede sa T-amp (I got my first two units of this 5 or 6 years ago). Ang maganda sa Jap surplus, high efficient karamihan at warm US west-coast sound. Dapat dalhin mo yung T-amp mo with alkaline batteries sa tindahan. Magdala ka ng wire mo at Ipod para hindi sumimangot yung mga tamad na salesmen. I-test mo lahat ng pwede, at dun ka pumili.

Taga-Davao ka ba? Kung nandito ka lang, dapat makilala mo yung bagong grupo dito. I know at least 4 guys here in PDVD who are in our group but not very active in posting. Umiikot kami ng bahay to listen to our set ups -- pero karamihan plaka ang gamit pag group sessions.

[molins]

para hindi sumimangot yung mga tamad na salesmen. I-test mo lahat ng pwede, at dun ka pumili.

na try ko na to,so far gentle naman sila, , taga-davao lang ako sir, so far ikaw lang kilala ko na active sa pdvd, no chance talaga to try hifi setup and vintage sound, compare ko sana sound ng portable setup ko sa mga bigatin na setup, and to know more the meaning of MUSIC , hope marinig ko mga setup ng group mo, in the near future.. ;)thanks

[gutchy]

Yun lang mga nabanggit ko sa itaas ang notables plus Coral X-VII (12-inch woofer, NOS, with box and speakers still in sealed plastic wrap)). Bukod dun wala nang dumating dito. Ang balita ko meron pa sa Cebu -- last week may naka-jackpot ng newer model Luxman valve amp. Mas maganda daw compared sa SQ-38FD ko.

ganda naman sir ng Canon speaker na yan collectible..
tempting din ung Coral X-VII NOS pa.. How much selling nito sir?
buti pa jan sa Davao meron pa rin mga rare at TOTL na dumadating..

[sandawa]

molins,

A friendly tip: I think you should circulate more to know audio enthusiasts here personally, not just through discussion boards. I'm surprised you haven't met other PDVD guys in Davao yet.

gutchy,

The trader's asking price is P7k/pair. Relatively mura na.

[molins]

thanks for the tip sir sandawa, i would love to know them personally and learn from them, my quest starts, thanks 

btw, i was able to try a big pioneer bookshelf dont know the model,the store near chimes,  my t amp can drive them with good sound, its priced at 5k with stand, cant listen to it properly because of noise, thinking of buying it, pero research muna..

[sandawa]

Yes, that's Joel Yap's store. This is what I mean by circulating and getting to know personally the people behind this hobby. Maliit lang ang Davao for audio enthusiasts like us. When you gain their confidence, you'll get texts and phone calls on info and weekend events we are all interested in. If Joel knows you as someone seriously into hifi, you'll get a good discount. The good speakers and amps, however, are not displayed in that outlet. They're in an old bodega/repair shop on Sta. Ana Ext. near the wharf. What you saw is a good pair -- the Pioneer S-55twin if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/speaker/s-55twinx.html

[molins]

Yes, that's Joel Yap's store. This is what I mean by circulating and getting to know personally the people behind this hobby. Maliit lang ang Davao for audio enthusiasts like us. When you gain their confidence, you'll get texts and phone calls on info and weekend events we are all interested in. If Joel knows you as someone seriously into hifi, you'll get a good discount. The good speakers and amps, however, are not displayed in that outlet. They're in an old bodega/repair shop on Sta. Ana Ext. near the wharf. What you saw is a good pair -- the Pioneer S-55twin if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/speaker/s-55twinx.html

it looks something like that, but not the horn type tweeter, they sound very well, considering the noise, and a small tamp and ipod , 91db pala sensitivity, a good plus for t amp user,  , i will try to audition again some speakers, specially sa bodega, hopefully, yes world is too small for those who love music, our universal language.. 

[rascal101]

molins,

A friendly tip: I think you should circulate more to know audio enthusiasts here personally, not just through discussion boards. I'm surprised you haven't met other PDVD guys in Davao yet.

gutchy,

The trader's asking price is P7k/pair. Relatively mura na.

Sir Gutchy,

Big Brother ng Coral XV ... Ganda nito ... hehehe

[sandawa]

it looks something like that, but not the horn type tweeter, they sound very well, considering the noise, and a small tamp and ipod , 91db pala sensitivity, a good plus for t amp user,  , i will try to audition again some speakers, specially sa bodega, hopefully, yes world is too small for those who love music, our universal language.. 

Sorry, I posted the wrong model. The one on display is Pioneer S-55twin SD (not horn tweeter). That pair has been there for about a year now and started with a P6k price. With the stands, P5k is reasonable, probably even cheap. Not many speakers in Joel's bodega now but the Coral X-VII at an efficiency rating of 94 to 97db/w/meter would be a good option for your t-amp. I don't think the t-amp could drive its 12-inch woofer, but at least, when you move to bigger amps, you'll have a big speaker to hear low notes from those old Hammonds.

[gutchy]

Sir Gutchy,

Big Brother ng Coral XV ... Ganda nito ... hehehe

Ganda nga Mel at saka NOS pa ito.
Sayang malayo lang.
Meron akong T-amp TA2022 gandang i-match sana dito.

[rascal101]

Oo nga eh. Nakakita rin ako ng Coral XVII sa Pier kaya lang - sa pagalaala ko 10K ang presyo. Medyo harang.

[buzzworth]

Oo nga eh. Nakakita rin ako ng Coral XVII sa Pier kaya lang - sa pagalaala ko 10K ang presyo. Medyo harang.

tama ka sir rascal, talagang tumaas na ang price ng mga rare item sa pier..yung diatone dati 3k may makukuha ka, ngayon parating 4.5K ang price  hirap na bumili, tiyempuhan na lang yung mga tipong sleeper na amp at speaker, makakakuha ka ng mura huwag ka lang pahalata na sobrang excited ka ng makita mo yung item 

[Signal2Noise]

I passed by a friendly junk Jap hifi importer here in Davao and found a pair of unusual speakers. These were released in mid-90s by Canon, the Japanese camera firm, but were made exclusively in UK designed by Allen Boothroyd of Meridian's Boothroyd and Stuart (http://www.stereophile.com/content/canon-s-35-loudspeaker) for worldwide distribution. It was originally quoted at $400 without the stands.

Canon stopped its hifi line after this but when the S-35 was out on the market, it was called Darth Vader, black jellyfish, mushroom, or helmet speakers. I'd agree with Stereophile's review of the S-35 and would even say it was a bit generous (Canon probably paid a full page ad). But then again, the S-35 is a rare speaker and would probably qualify to be in a museum that showcases industrial designs. So, I took this pair home.

I have to post the photos here -- not on Vintage Gallery thread -- since the S-35 does not qualify as vintage hifi.

with the original stands


removed from the stand


back of the speaker

Looks like an imperial commander from the movie Star Wars 

[stockHT]

mga bossing how about Japan Surplus shops? may nakapagtry na ba na mag scout dun?
yung japan surplus na may mga beds, mountain bikes cookwares etc..

[vhinx]

Good Day po Sir/Mam, Newbie here lang po... Maganda Speaker din po ba CORAL DX-5B japan surplus din po sya, merun lang po nagbebenta sakin eh...


Rating of a mode
System   3 ways, 3 speaker bass-reflex system, and a book shelf type
Use unit   For low-pass: 26cm corn type
For inside regions: 7cm dome shape
For high regions: 2cm dome shape
Play frequency band   35Hz - 35000Hz
Impedance   6ohms
Program sauce input   150W
The moment maximum input   300W
Crossover frequency   550Hz, 7000Hz
Output sound pressure level   92dB/W-m
Dimensions   Width 315x height 585x depth of 320mm
Weight   17kg.

any comments po... Thanks a lot.

[hattori_hanzo]

Good Day po Sir/Mam, Newbie here lang po... Maganda Speaker din po ba CORAL DX-5B japan surplus din po sya, merun lang po nagbebenta sakin eh...


Rating of a mode
System   3 ways, 3 speaker bass-reflex system, and a book shelf type
Use unit   For low-pass: 26cm corn type
For inside regions: 7cm dome shape
For high regions: 2cm dome shape
Play frequency band   35Hz - 35000Hz
Impedance   6ohms
Program sauce input   150W
The moment maximum input   300W
Crossover frequency   550Hz, 7000Hz
Output sound pressure level   92dB/W-m
Dimensions   Width 315x height 585x depth of 320mm
Weight   17kg.

any comments po... Thanks a lot.

Grab mo agad yan baka maunahan ka ng iba rare yan, 92db 35khz sh!t that the old school rated conservatively. match mo ng tubes yan, panalo. basta good condition ah? imagine 17kilos ang isa damn!

send ka ng pics after mo pa purchase, san pala location mo?

[buzzworth]

mga bossing how about Japan Surplus shops? may nakapagtry na ba na mag scout dun?
yung japan surplus na may mga beds, mountain bikes cookwares etc..

saan sir yung japan surplus shop na sinasabi mo?

[vhinx]

Grab mo agad yan baka maunahan ka ng iba rare yan, 92db 35khz sh!t that the old school rated conservatively. match mo ng tubes yan, panalo. basta good condition ah? imagine 17kilos ang isa damn!

send ka ng pics after mo pa purchase, san pala location mo?

Actually Sir sa Tito ko po yun speaker (good Condition pa) na yun na kinakantahan ko sa kanya bago siya bumalik ulit sa abroad merun pa nga yun kasama Luzman-L507u amp at ang lupit po talaga tunog nun, sabi nya bilhin ko daw sabay tawa... Pasig City po location namin sir.

[hattori_hanzo]

Actually Sir sa Tito ko po yun speaker (good Condition pa) na yun na kinakantahan ko sa kanya bago siya bumalik ulit sa abroad merun pa nga yun kasama Luzman-L507u amp at ang lupit po talaga tunog nun, sabi nya bilhin ko daw sabay tawa... Pasig City po location namin sir.

i think it the old Luxman if im not mistaken, bro baka binibiro ka ng tito mo? hehe or hes teasing you, if ever he will sell that (seriously) bilihin mo na, its not the pricetag but the rarety nung gears bro. speakers palang if i remember it right coral's are hard to find specially the NOS. we had two Corals forgot the models, pero yung istura nya has white cone with inverted surrounds, bro walang sinabi yung mga speakers nagyon sa clarity nun.

it looked like this full range driver

[vhinx]

ewan ko lang sir kung yun pagkaka intindi ko merun lang sya gusto ipagawa tito ko sakin bago nya ibigay sakin gamit nya, medyo marami kasi syang ipa repair sakin electronics gadget gamit nila sa bahay eh hindi ko magawa kasi medyo busy pa ako sa work ko dito ako baguio naka distino now eh... Nasa baba po yung wedsite ng Coral speaker at Luxman amp nya.

http://audio-database.com/CORAL/speaker/dx-5b-e.html

http://www.stereomojo.com/Luxman%20L507u%20review/LuxmanL507uAmpReview.htm

[vhinx]

Yung Coral na speaker na same sa Tito ko now pero mas maganda yung outer box eh may nakita po ako sa Pier dati pa worth almost 6K pero nakuha din at that time ng koreano...