Topic: Which way to go, analog or digital?

[aHobbit]

OK, thats your opinion. Attending sessions & shop audition is not serious listening. Anybody agree?

I think I can not judge anyone's seriousness at any given time - kung baga sa korte, you have to prove otherwise, and the burden of proof will be in the accuser in the negative. Again, before the hearing starts, somebody should point the law that defines what constitute seriousness! Your honor!  

[aHobbit]

...for me LPs (especially mint ones) still sound much more superior than CDs, even if the CD is HDCD or even XRCD...the "warmth" is more felt in analog than digital...

DI kaya amp and speaker synergy ang culprit kung bakit maganda phono mo at ngetpa si XRCD/HDCD! just scratching my head on the comparison without the benefit of setup complements. Of course I recognise its only you.

[aHobbit]

and again, i agree with kim, simple math will reveal that analog is cheaper as a very good/mint LP would cost around P200-P400 imported, for local it ranges from P30-P150...what a thrill to also "hunt' for hard-to-find LPs just like Bong Penera's Samba Song, LPs of Juan Dela Cruz Band, Mike Francis, Julia Fordham, etc...

Yeah! got imported ones at P50 a piece brand new - my contents of course. But on the CD thing, some people can get it even cheaper than LP, being creative enough! 

[synchro_01]

....there are lshops that can offer space (acoustically treated room) and let you evaluate  alone for a day.

odyopayl,  what would be the shops that you are referring to that actually permits one to audition gears for the whole day?   this is good news for a lot of enthusiasts.

[odyopayl]

odyopayl, what would be the shops that you are referring to that actually permits one to audition gears for the whole day? this is good news for a lot of enthusiasts.

Sent you PM

[kimpao]

It depends on how you evaluate the equipment  in the shop, there are lshops that can offer space (acoustically treated room) and let you evaluate  alone for a day.

Pa PM din kung san 'to?     or kung pwede paki post para naman members can benefit from this.   

[Superman]

for the day? u mean 1 whole day? paano naman yung ibang customers?

[kimpao]

for the day? u mean 1 whole day? paano naman yung ibang customers?

Pila balde.   

[Superman]

DI kaya amp and speaker synergy ang culprit kung bakit maganda phono mo at ngetpa si XRCD/HDCD! just scratching my head on the comparison without the benefit of setup complements. Of course I recognise its only you.

system synergy? that's the least of my worries...why because i know how my system sounds...everything else is equal...i.e. cables, amp, TT, CDP, room condition...what i compare is software, i.e. LP vs. CD...it doesn't mean na when you have an XRCD it sounds superior over ordinary CD, or HDCD...

[Superman]

pila balde

kim, ang saya-saya niyan!! eh dapat sa 7/11 na lang mag-audition para 24-hours

[kimpao]

kim, ang saya-saya niyan!! eh dapat sa 7/11 na lang mag-audition para 24-hours

 

[Superman]

may freebie kayang lugaw at lomi para sa customers na mag-audition the whole day? para naman di antukin...maski ako yung may-ari ng tindahan eh aantukin din ako eh...

[john5479]

IMHO there are great recordings in cd/hdcd/xrcd and great recordings for LPs as well. Same thing that there are bad recordings for the mediums mentioned. Just because you are playing an lp does it mean that it will always sound good. Same as saying if its on cd it does not necessarily mean it won't sound good.

For me you can actually set-up an analog rig that is cheaper and more musically satisfying but more maintenance.
In contrast you can set-up a digital rig for convenience but for it to be musically satisfying you may have to spend more. However if the question is can i have a setup that can be musically satisfying using a digital front end ? for me yes...is it superior to an analog front end ? I won't go that far.

[iceman90a]

uy buhay na naman itong thread na ito which way to go? eh di sa medium kung san available ang music/artists na gusto mo madinig: lp, cd, dvd, cassette...

why bother convincing anyone else which medium is better?

[JojoD818]

jojo,

when i said hobby, it has passion that i dedicated myself whatever it is! let's just be true to ourselves, as synchro_01 posted "you gotta live with the gear to know it well."

how will you know if you don't have it and do serious listening.

agree ako 100% sa iyo manong! dapat let's be true to ourselves, ika nga sa commercial... magpakatotoo ka! 

seriously, ang sarap ng audio ano? dapat magpasalamat tayong lahat at meron tayo analog at digital! either or both, we should be thankful that it plays good music and sooths our senses...

[JojoD818]

We Also Serve Audiophile Foods - matinding strategy ito, wala pa shops na nakaisip nito ah....

[JojoD818]

uy buhay na naman itong thread na ito which way to go? eh di sa medium kung san available ang music/artists na gusto mo madinig: lp, cd, dvd, cassette...

why bother convincing anyone else which medium is better?

fafa vens musta ka na? miss na kita eh! 

yun cassette sa analog yun kasali diba? meron pa ako player nun at mga metal typeII tapes. 

[john5479]

We Also Serve Audiophile Foods - matinding strategy ito, wala pa shops na nakaisip nito ah....

ano yan? pag nakakain ka ba ng audiophile food, tatalas ba pandinig mo and you'll appreciate music more? hehe

[JojoD818]

ano yan? pag nakakain ka ba ng audiophile food, tatalas ba pandinig mo and appreciate music? hehe

kung whole day kasi audition ng gears syempre magugutom ka kaya dapat audiophile grade din ang food. hehe

[iceman90a]

fafa vens musta ka na? miss na kita eh!

yun cassette sa analog yun kasali diba? meron pa ako player nun at mga metal typeII tapes.

heto Pre - nabibingi sa mga makina sa planta...

yup sa analog yan, sayang nga mga tapes ko - sa walkman lang (oo meron pa ako nun) napapakinggan.

[JojoD818]

heto Pre - nabibingi sa mga makina sa planta...

yup sa analog yan, sayang nga mga tapes ko - sa walkman lang (oo meron pa ako nun) napapakinggan.

ingat sa noise pre baka masobrahan sa decibels at mawala ang golden ears! 

ayos! linisin ko yun tape deck ko para sa next session mag cassette naman tayo!

 

[s2kov]

ang saya sya!

seriously, ang sarap ng audio ano? dapat magpasalamat tayong lahat at meron tayo analog at digital! either or both, we should be thankful that it plays good music and sooths our senses...

[rony]

which way to go? eh di sa medium kung san available ang music/artists na gusto mo madinig: lp, cd, dvd, cassette...

why bother convincing anyone else which medium is better?

Tama ka ice.   TUMPAK ka diyan.   Darating din ang panahon vince na babalik at babalik rin tayo sa digital mga 15 to 20 yrs. siguro

bad sounding CD vs. bad sounding LP sino panalo?
good sounding CD vs. good sounding LP sino panalo?

o kaya Cantate Domino XRCD vs. Cantate Domino ATR Germany

yun gears na pag testingan palagay na natin nasa 30-50K yun CD-player + kung me mga DAC pa tapos sa turntable lagay na natin sa 30-50K din. entry level to moderate yun preamp,power at speakers.

[synchro_01]

this thread is on fire...48 hours ago it was only 4 pages. now its on its 8th page already 

never ending ito...shades of valve gears vs. s/s discussions 

[Superman]

We Also Serve Audiophile Foods - matinding strategy ito, wala pa shops na nakaisip nito ah....

doc, OK to ha! ano naman kaya ang specialty? anything edible related to "hearing" tulad ng sisig, tengang daga?? peace po!

[taggart]

this thread is on fire...48 hours ago it was only 4 pages. now its on its 8th page already 

never ending ito...shades of valve gears vs. s/s discussions 

very hot thread here!!!

for me, both analog and digital have their own merits like those already mentioned by the masters.  best to try them both...if budget's a concern(like me), go for 2nd hand items na lang.  i'd rather listen to both(albeit entry level systems) formats than to just one top of the line analog or digital but if you can afford both top of the lines...i'd say go for it.  

[kimpao]

Whoahey!!!!!............ Tape deck, hinalukay ko kagabi. Still have my collection of cassette tapes. Very nostalgic....Ahehehehehehe........    Was also able to find my dad's reel tape player yun tag 4 hrs bawat reel.  Pwede kaso baka sabihin may wina-wire tap ako. 

[Superman]

congrats, kim!...buti ka pa! eh yung mga cassette tapes ko na-nenok nung dati naming househelp, sayang... ayus yan!

[synchro_01]

hehe I remember years ago when CD changers were still non existent. I used to carry a bagfull of cassette tapes inside my car so that I have my music wherever I go. My dream device back then was the cassette tape changer manufactured by a small start up company named Alpine electronics.

[JojoD818]

Whoahey!!!!!............ Tape deck, hinalukay ko kagabi. Still have my collection of cassette tapes. Very nostalgic....Ahehehehehehe........    Was also able to find my dad's reel tape player yun tag 4 hrs bawat reel.  Pwede kaso baka sabihin may wina-wire tap ako. 

ahahaha! meron din ako nyan! Kaso nag molds na yun Memorex na tapes, yun BASF na lang ang malinis. Tamang tama yan sa surveilance kasi may recording speed na pwedeng 24 hours yun isang tape. hehehe... Kim hindi na yata para sa analog yan, tools of another trade na yata yan pre kaya meron ka nyan.