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Re: Society of Film Archivist
« Reply #60 on: Jul 16, 2005 at 05:47 PM »
They have shown William Pascual's TAKAW TUKSO at Titus Brandsma a few weeks ago. First time I think that they screened a Filipino film in a long while. Its the director's cut but not the actual masterprint, only the complete beta format.
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« Reply #61 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 06:29 AM »
They have shown William Pascual's TAKAW TUKSO at Titus Brandsma a few weeks ago. First time I think that they screened a Filipino film in a long while. Its the director's cut but not the actual masterprint, only the complete beta format.

i thought they cannot find a copy of the movie? i'm quite sure that William Pascual doen't even have a copy of Takaw Tukso. fortunately i was able to retreive mine... along with Di Maghilom Ang Sugat, the follow-up to Takaw....

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« Reply #62 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 01:45 PM »
Jo is it true that the Film Archives before was under the basement of the ghostly Manila Film Center? When the Aquino administration took over, all the film reels were wet with water due to flood and abandoned already.

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« Reply #63 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 02:10 PM »
yes they were.
you should see the pitiful condition of our local films...
rusted, corroded desaturated all because nobody took the initiative
to care for them...now that they want to restore them...
wala na puro pulbos na lang...  :(

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« Reply #64 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 07:21 PM »
Jo is it true that the Film Archives before was under the basement of the ghostly Manila Film Center? When the Aquino administration took over, all the film reels were wet with water due to flood and abandoned already.

what diabolix said is true. i remember when we borrowed the print of Himala we had to go down the basement of the Film Center and get  it with Cirio Santiago's permission of course. it's so sad to think about the carelessness and lack of respect they've done to our films.

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« Reply #65 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 07:27 PM »
This is OT, just for my curiosity, have you seen ghost there Jojo? I remember when my cousins tagged me to watch Oro plata mata at the Manila Film center, after I was rejected, I went to the bathroom and the corridors looks so creepy.  :o

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« Reply #66 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 10:02 PM »
This is OT, just for my curiosity, have you seen ghost there Jojo? I remember when my cousins tagged me to watch Oro plata mata at the Manila Film center, after I was rejected, I went to the bathroom and the corridors looks so creepy.  :o

well there were talks about ghosts lurking at the Film Center but honestly, I never had any experience... i used to go there a lot most especially in the late 80's when we would hold film screening s there. but no, i've never seen any ghosts... by the way is that nude mural of Imelda still there?

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« Reply #67 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 10:06 PM »
There's a painting of Imelda at the Film Center but I can't recall if its nude, Jo. The one where her eyes followed you wherever you go. Baka siya ang ghost doon, hehehe.  ;D

Seriously speaking, in the late 80's, the film center still operates?  ???

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« Reply #68 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 10:20 PM »
There's a painting of Imelda at the Film Center but I can't recall if its nude, Jo. The one where her eyes followed you wherever you go. Baka siya ang ghost doon, hehehe.  ;D

Seriously speaking, in the late 80's, the film center still operates?  ???
hindi naman siya totally nude... like si Malakas at si Maganda, 'yung natatakpan ang private parts then she had long flowing hair. nasa lobby 'yun before...

definitely! the Film Center was still in operation during Cory's regime. 'yun nga lang halos sira na 'yung mga seats then may mga grafitti na ang mga walls... nakakapanghinayang kasi it was really the perfect place to watch movies.

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« Reply #69 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 10:28 PM »
Yup its still there, the Imelda mural. And the eyes looks like she follows you wherever you go. My cousins felt some eerie atmosphere at the Manila Film Center during those times. Like for instance, someone will flush the toilet bowl even though you're the only one inside the comfort room.

Its a pity really because it was patterned I think sa Cannes Film festival plus the amenities also. 

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« Reply #70 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 10:46 PM »
Yup its still there, the Imelda mural. And the eyes looks like she follows you wherever you go. My cousins felt some eerie atmosphere at the Manila Film Center during those times. Like for instance, someone will flush the toilet bowl even though you're the only one inside the comfort room.

Its a pity really because it was patterned I think sa Cannes Film festival plus the amenities also. 

it's still there... is it true that they're planning to demolish the building? sayang naman... i remember that one scene in Soltero where Chanda Romero finally admitted to Jay that she is a lesbian it was shot at the Manila Film Center...

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« Reply #71 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 10:51 PM »
That's the plan I think to demolish the building and some people wants to build a monument in that area in memory to those workers who  perished during the terrible accident.

Speaking of SOLTERO this was the last movie produced by ECP or was it Abbo dela Cruz' MISTERYO SA TUWA?

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« Reply #72 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 11:04 PM »
That's the plan I think to demolish the building and some people wants to build a monument in that area in memory to those workers who  perished during the terrible accident.

Speaking of SOLTERO this was the last movie produced by ECP or was it Abbo dela Cruz' MISTERYO SA TUWA?

they build a memorial next to it instead... don't demolish the building they should restore it for heaven's sake.

yeah... Soltero was the last movie produced by the ECP.

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« Reply #73 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 11:16 PM »
Its an edifice of history, I mean, the MANILA FILM CENTER. Both good and bad films were shown there. The government should restore it, agree with you about that.

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« Reply #74 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 11:19 PM »
Its an edifice of history, I mean, the MANILA FILM CENTER. Both good and bad films were shown there. The government should restore it, agree with you about that.

they should... they may have shown more bad films but the fact remains that the Manila Film Center is an important part of Philippine Cinema History.

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« Reply #75 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 11:22 PM »
Yeah, its documented and part of Film History. If only I was not rejected for the screening of Oro, Plata, Mata.

Was censorship very strict during those times?

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« Reply #76 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 11:26 PM »
Yeah, its documented and part of Film History. If only I was not rejected for the screening of Oro, Plata, Mata.

Was censorship very strict during those times?

i'm not sure whether censorship was strict. i remember watching Oro at the Ali Mall Cinema 3 as part of the MIFF and i was able to get in... and i was still a minor back then.   ;D

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« Reply #77 on: Jul 17, 2005 at 11:33 PM »
i'm not sure whether censorship was strict. i remember watching Oro at the Ali Mall Cinema 3 as part of the MIFF and i was able to get in... and i was still a minor back then.   ;D

What? Baka you change your age, Jo? I ended up at the nearby Harrizon Plaza with my yaya after I was rejected.  ;D

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« Reply #78 on: Jul 18, 2005 at 12:52 AM »
Its an edifice of history, I mean, the MANILA FILM CENTER. Both good and bad films were shown there. The government should restore it, agree with you about that.

Edifice or monument, but for goodness' sake, don't store films there! The heavy salt air--kkkkk! for film prints! I can't believe they'd actually choose a seaside location for their archives...

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« Reply #79 on: Jul 18, 2005 at 08:22 AM »
What? Baka you change your age, Jo? I ended up at the nearby Harrizon Plaza with my yaya after I was rejected.  ;D

my uncle tried to sneak me inside the theater... nakalusot naman but i remember being scared of the violent scenes remember Lorli Villanueva's fingers being cut off?

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« Reply #80 on: Jul 18, 2005 at 12:34 PM »
Edifice or monument, but for goodness' sake, don't store films there! The heavy salt air--kkkkk! for film prints! I can't believe they'd actually choose a seaside location for their archives...

Yeah the location of the Film Archive doesn't suit very well for the atmosphere and the weather. But if its air conditioned at the basement, will it still maintain the condition of the prints?
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« Reply #81 on: Jul 19, 2005 at 05:20 AM »
Sea air has a way of getting in, air-conditioning or no air-conditioning. Your best bet is somewhere cold and hopefully seismologically and vulcanologically stable...

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Re: Society of Film Archivist
« Reply #82 on: Sep 26, 2005 at 06:02 PM »
Sir keating / Noel, would any SOFIA member/s by any chance be interested in doing a project of the same nature what Mr. Tony Gloria of Unitel pictures is doing -- restoring/acquiring copyrights of old films and transferring them into digital formats and selling/distributing them?

Is the digital transfer cost still prohibitive? I believe there is a market for old films here and abroad as most of the posts in this forum indicate  ;) Just a thought...I'd appreciate it if you could share your thought on this (the pro's and con's and the in-betweens of venturing into it), thank you very much!

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« Reply #83 on: Sep 26, 2005 at 06:15 PM »
Hi man! Are you in town? I know peeps who are into this. just send a pm and we can talk about it. Thanks! :)
BTW, like I mentioned in another thread, DVD editions of LVN classics--complete with menus and a special feature--have been produced but it's not for commercial release--yet.
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« Reply #84 on: Oct 23, 2005 at 05:54 PM »
My friend was able to copy on cable a few years back the original GABI NG LAGIM produced by Larry Santiago Productions. Sad thing is the film is not complete anymore, some of the opening credits including important scenes on the four episodes are incomplete! The cast is headed by the late Fernando Poe Jr.

Paging SOFIA to the rescue!

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« Reply #85 on: Oct 26, 2005 at 04:31 PM »
Sea air has a way of getting in, air-conditioning or no air-conditioning. Your best bet is somewhere cold and hopefully seismologically and vulcanologically stable...

Our weather is not suited really for preserving those old films. Since Manila Film Center was a stone's throw away from the GSIS, I was able to pass by and saw the basement. It was still abandoned and stinking already.

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« Reply #86 on: Jan 16, 2008 at 06:50 PM »
SOFIA will have its general assembly and election on Jan. 31 at 1pm at the CCP Multi-Purpose Hall on the 4th floor. Everyone whose heart into preserving film heritage is invited to attend and be a member.

Thanks to RMN for the info. Jo Atienza is back in town finally.

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« Reply #87 on: Jul 06, 2008 at 10:40 AM »
Quest for a national film archive continues

By Clodualdo del Mundo Jr.



MANILA, Philippines—Armando "Mandy" Diaz Jr. described himself as a
fan of Nora Aunor, the Superstar of Philippine Cinema in the '60s and
the '70s. He was no ordinary fan—in his words, he loved Nora
Aunor "super-to-the-max."

I didn't know Diaz personally. I just learned about him through the
Internet when he passed away not too long ago. The announcement from
his fellow Noranians attached an essay that Mandy wrote about himself
as a superfan, entitled "Himala," which describes his devotion to the
superstar. In his home, a photo of his idol occupies a special place
on the family altar. His house, located on what he refers to as Nora
Aunor Avenue, is marked by Aunor's huge photos on the door and window.

This devotion, which started when Diaz was in the first grade and
continued till his death at age 48, resulted in 47 volumes of book-
bound clippings from 1967 to 2008. There are 10 photo albums—
including stills from the actress' movies.

Bit player

Moreover, there are 172 original layouts of Nora's films, from "All
Over the World" (1967), when Nora was just a bit player, to her 2004
film, "Naglalayag." He also mentions his collection of records by La
Aunor that he would listen to every morning to set each day right!
Indeed, there may not be that kind of collection anywhere else.

What does Diaz's story say about archiving in the Philippines?
Collecting, which is a major part of archiving, is done by people
like Mandy. Collectors are motivated by personal tastes and choices.

In this country, if you need stills from motion pictures, you go to
individual producers and pray that they have stored those stills and
would be willing to share them. Or, you go to people like Cesar
Hernando, who keeps his collection in Kodak photo-paper boxes.

If you need movie posters, you visit production companies and pray
that they have a collection of their posters—or, you can go to Vic
Delotavo, a movie-poster designer who keeps a good collection of his
own works. If you need movie ads of prewar or postwar movies up to
the '50s, you might want to check out the collection of Danny Dolor,
who's a patron of the arts.

Now that DVDs are easier to acquire, I wouldn't be surprised to see
private collections of films. Check out filmmakers and actors for
copies of their own works. And don't discount collections of 35mm
films, however limited they may be. If you're looking for the
original Filipino version of Manuel Conde's "Genghis Khan," there's a
Filipino living in California who has a print of Conde's classic—in
35mm!

Establishment

The point is, there's no central place where extra-filmic artifacts,
much less the movies themselves, are archived. When the Sofia
(Society of Filipino Archivists for Film) was organized in 1994, its
mission was to see the establishment of a national audio-visual
archive. Today, that same mission continues.

In a recent inventory of the collections of several archives and
storage facilities, Sofia found that many of them are in various
levels of disrepair. There's only one institution in the country that
operates as an honest-to-goodness storage facility: The state-of-the-
art ABS-CBN Film Archive.

Actually, things would be simpler if we changed the name of the ABS-
CBN archive to the to National Film Archive of the Philippines, which
would cut short Sofia's goal. However, that is well nigh impossible,
since the Lopezes and the Arroyo administration are embroiled in the
electric power controversy.

But, honestly, the ABS-CBN Film Archive is our de facto national film
archive: It now houses the LVN collection (LVN was one of the three
major movie studios in the '50s), the FPJ collection, and virtually
all the films produced by Regal, RVQ and other companies. Moreover,
it operates as a real archive should—because researchers are allowed
access to its collection!

More and more of our films are being archived outside the country:
Lino Brocka's "Insiang" and "Bona" are in the Cinémathèque Française,
as well as Gerry de Leon's "48 Oras" and Conde's "Genghis Khan." The
British Film Institute has copies of Lino Brocka's "Maynila…Sa Mga
Kuko ng Liwanag," "Bayan Ko" and "Bona," and Eddie Romero's "Ganito
Kami Noon…Paano Kayo Ngayon?"

A Mike de Leon collection is archived in Singapore. Lav Diaz's movies
can be found in Vienna. Tikoy Aguiluz's "Boatman" is in Brussels.
Those produced by Armida Siguion-Reyna can be found in Los Angeles.
Ishmael Bernal's "Nunal sa Tubig" is in Berlin. New York's Museum of
Modern Art has a copy of "Bona." Fukuoka's city library likewise has
a collection of Filipino features. If this trend continues, we will
certainly lose direct access to our own films!

In the meantime, the work for the establishment of a National Audio-
Visual Archive resumes. The future doesn't look bleak, although it
doesn't look that bright, either. People are pushing for the
collaboration of the Film Development Council and the Cultural Center
of the Philippines.

Resources

Since the FDCP is mandated to act on the archiving needs of the
industry, the idea is to speed up its work by collaborating with
CCP's archive—to make use of resources that are already available!

The dream of having a National Audio-Visual Archive will be realized—
simply because there are Pinoys who worship at the altar of Cinema.
To use the words of Aunor's superfan, we are devoted to this
goal "super-to-the-max"!

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« Reply #88 on: Jul 13, 2008 at 03:00 AM »
Quest for a national film archive continues

By Clodualdo del Mundo Jr.



MANILA, Philippines—Armando "Mandy" Diaz Jr. described himself as a
fan of Nora Aunor, the Superstar of Philippine Cinema in the '60s and
the '70s. He was no ordinary fan—in his words, he loved Nora
Aunor "super-to-the-max"...

I've argued [a href=http://sinehansakanto.blogspot.com/2007/09/lost-and-found-box-finding-cinematic.html]before[/a] that finding Filipino movies will require taking the non-traditional route. This means, relying on Europe and the US, but also looking at other places such as companies that specialized in taking films from the Philippines (once the biggest film industry in Asia) and showing them as "exotic products"; other small countries that traditionally imported films from Asian countries (South Asian countries, China, Southeast asian countries, Latin American countries, West African countries, and especially Middle Eastern countries); and underground video enthusiasts who specialize in the freakish and "weird" (let's admit it, our tendency for the "bold" can seem freakish to other people). In my opinion, Europe and major american archives have the best, auteur, artistic films. Everywhere else has the rest.

Speaking of posters, it's untrue that Ebay is not a good source of Fillipino movies. From my recent purchases, I discovered Filipino films have been imported to the US, as well as to Israel, Argentina, Mexico, and Pakistan. How? You can buy posters of Filipino movies from those countries. (I have a poster of Badjao with Hebrew text.)

Simply put, let's stop celebrating Filipino cinema as national cinema. We're like Hollywood even before Hollywood decided to go global. Hence, Filipino movies must return to form: we have to go global. Retrace our steps back not only to Europe and North america, but to the rest of the world. I think Genghis Khan, Sanda Wong, and Darna are only the tip of the iceberg. With extensive archiving from India, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia (Avellana's Sarjan Hassan is floating around Malaysia in the form of VCDs), Argentina, Israel, Iran and Afghanistan going on, it is inevitable that in their search, we will find our own movies too.

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« Reply #89 on: Jul 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM »
Finding a poster of an old Filipino film is a rare commodity these days. The best way is to contact also a film historian or a film curator like Teddy Co. Its good that Ebay has some of those rare memorabilia.

 Sad but true that finding a copy of an old Filipino film can be found overseas like in the U.S. for instance. Copies of Brocka's SANTIAGO & TUBOG SA GINTO long lost in oblivion were found there, and I'm praying that another lost Brocka masterpiece......LUNES, MARTES, MIYERKULES, HUWEBES, BIYERNES, SABADO, LINGGO.....whew.....can be found also in the near future!

The judgement day is on Wednesday at the CCP where a retro of Manuel Conde films will be screened particularly GENGHIS KHAN.....feedback was that the print was actually in better condition and CCP was able to get a video copy of the film!
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