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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #540 on: Aug 19, 2005 at 12:57 PM »
fweyd,

Try mo ring tingnan yung Konzert AVR600, eto yata ipinalit sa AVR500.  Madalang pa lang ito sa mga stores kasi bagong labas pa lang, di ko pa rin sya nabusisi ng husto e.  Maganda rin porma nito, parang branded AVR ang hitsura nya.

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #541 on: Aug 24, 2005 at 10:00 AM »
can someone pls help me and post or pm  the contact number of the service center for sakura.
the remote control doesn't  work now.
the front panel of the sakura 377 don' have button(pro-logic) for switching to 2ch,3ch and 5ch. button for superbass.

Bro,

Have you tried cleaning the remote? The inside, I mean. Baka madumi lang. Marami na akong na encounter na remotes na cleaning lang pala ang problema. Try lang bro.

Remotes rarely get broken, unless sinadya.

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #542 on: Aug 24, 2005 at 03:26 PM »
Bro,

Have you tried cleaning the remote? The inside, I mean. Baka madumi lang. Marami na akong na encounter na remotes na cleaning lang pala ang problema. Try lang bro.

Remotes rarely get broken, unless sinadya.

 ;D

i tried it already and malinis naman ang loob.
actually only two buttons (Bal R, Pro-logic selector) when i pressed really hard respond and the rest wont.
i can't find time to visit moses aaron during weekends to have it checked, but i have called them and they have a replacement worth P700.  ::)

thanks for the tips bro art.

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #543 on: Aug 25, 2005 at 06:14 AM »
Hello sa mga sakura 387a owners,

Nagbabalak akong bumili nito e. Tanong ko lang sana kung ano ang max power consumption ng 387a?

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #544 on: Aug 25, 2005 at 09:34 AM »
i tried it already and malinis naman ang loob.
actually only two buttons (Bal R, Pro-logic selector) when i pressed really hard respond and the rest wont.
i can't find time to visit moses aaron during weekends to have it checked, but i have called them and they have a replacement worth P700.  ::)

thanks for the tips bro art.

Havve you tried cleaning both the board and the button carbon terminals? If nag rerespond ang ibang buttons, it may not be broken. If that still doesn't work, get a new one na nga lang. Hingi ka ng discount kay pareng Mike sa moses aaron. Don't say I told ya.  ;D
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #545 on: Aug 26, 2005 at 03:01 PM »
kaya ba ng av387a ang euros 8 speaker set with usaudio508 sub?
sana may setup na ganito, bago ako bumili hehe

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #546 on: Aug 27, 2005 at 09:30 AM »
kaya ba ng av387a ang euros 8 speaker set with usaudio508 sub?
sana may setup na ganito, bago ako bumili hehe

I'm sure it can, the euros speakers have a nominal input power of about 15 watts and is sensitive naman. And don't worry about the sub, it's powered naman so no issue there about if kaya ito ng amp. Although mas maganda pa rin ang digital amp but sakura will do just fine. Don't worry.  ;)
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #547 on: Aug 29, 2005 at 01:11 PM »
hehe thanks!

kasi sana for budget setup, baka kasi hindi mabigyan ng justice ng skura ung euros, sayang naman hehe

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #548 on: Aug 29, 2005 at 01:40 PM »
finally, naka audition na ako yesteday sa megamall ng euro 6 and the slim type that I like, ang layo ng sound, imade up my mind na euro 6 na lang ang bilhin ko, now the problem is sabi sa kin is dapat daw yamaha na ang bilhin kong amp, hinde ba kaya ng sakura yun euro6, or pangit ang tunog pag sakura and ginamit ko? thnks

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #549 on: Aug 30, 2005 at 12:35 PM »
bro gonefishing,

Di naman sa pangit ang tunog, but going digital is best. the Sakuras will just sound fine with the Euros, but you do get what you pay for. Besides, you won't really know what you're missing unless you've had a taste of it.  ;)
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #550 on: Sep 04, 2005 at 03:57 PM »
bumili ako kahapon ng sakura 387a kay mike sa moses aaron... paired with euros8 bookshelf, since amateure ears pa lang naman ako, i think this is good for a starter setup... good for tuner, cd and dvd movies, hanggang   -38db lang ang gamit ko kasi baka batuhin na ako ng mga kapitbuilding ko e hehe...

my setup is:
pioneer 373
sakura 387a
euros 8 BS

my only disappointment is, it lacks optical/coaxial inputs wherein in my original plan was to connet my 373 via optical/coaxial... well, as they say, you'll get what youre money's worth hehe

it is a good buy afterall, specially if you are in budget like me hehe

btw, mike constantly mentioning sir arthur while we're testing the unit hehe

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #551 on: Sep 05, 2005 at 12:42 PM »
Yeah, Mike was actually very helpful and honest when I was just starting out with HT. And that was before naging kumpare ko sya. He's a no BS salesman. I think you'll have a great old time with your Sakura, and di ka rin magsisisi in the end na binili mo sya. Enjoy!  ;D
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #552 on: Sep 05, 2005 at 12:43 PM »
btw, sa mga gumagamit ng 387a,

kapag nakaanalog dvd input kau tapos may 5-channel ka, stereo ba lalabas dun? e kung 4-ch diba 2,3,5 ch ung mode nun?

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #553 on: Sep 05, 2005 at 01:09 PM »
ano ba ung cheapest amp na may digital input ?? optical preferably.. sayang kc.. naka 4.1 setup na ako (wala center) kaso stereo lang ung sound dahil ung DVD player ko nakakabit ung L/R Out nya sa L/R input ng LD sa AVR ko.. so bali stereo lang tunog..

btw, Oldskul Prologic Yamaha RXV-490 ung receiver ko. :(

balak ko rin since may optical out toh kabit ko sana kung may optical in ung AVR para at least seperate ung sound at hindi na stereo.
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #554 on: Sep 05, 2005 at 01:12 PM »
dude ung highend ng generic avr like sakura, konzert,promac mukhang wala pa digital input e, siguro starting form low-end ng mga branded lang meron

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #555 on: Sep 05, 2005 at 06:34 PM »
nga pala, wala ba talaga on/off sa sakura avr? baka naman may secret code na on/off dun! kakatamad kasi pindutin ung  on/off sa avr receiver mismo e hehe

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #556 on: Sep 14, 2005 at 11:00 AM »
sir arthur,

pede ba magsave ng customised bass/trebble settings sa sakura? pls help! hehe

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #557 on: Sep 19, 2005 at 12:06 PM »
sir arthur,

pede ba magsave ng customised bass/trebble settings sa sakura? pls help! hehe

I really couldn't say since I have a different model, the AV1600. My Sakura retains it's previous settings everytime I turn it off or on again. Let's ask other AV387 owners. ;D

And with regards to your previous questions, wala talagang electronic on and off switch ang Sakura. But to me, this can also be and advantage. You don't have to unplug your unit everytime you stop using it. Appliances with electronic switches, as experts would advise for safety's sake, require unplugging to protect it from surges and electrical "whathaveyous". You're assured that the amp is not consuming any electricity even if it is plugged because of the mechanical switch, it is physically unplugged. Me? I always turn off the extension's switch everytime I'm done with my stuff. This ensures me na di sya konektado sa outlet which can be dangerous.

And, although going digital is still best, it isn't totally a bad thing kung analog ka lang, medyo inconvenient at times but okay lang. Most generic dvd players already have the built in decoder so all you need is to amplify those signals, that's what they are there for and also why Sakura 5 ch amps exist. The main inconvenience nya is when listening to 2 ch sources, you'd have to switch to an input that utilizes the prologic processing.

The reason why stereo ang lumalabas and only your fronts ang umamandar is because the dvd player is only sending out signals to the front left and right input of the amp, so only these are amplified. Remember, at 5.1 input mode, Sakura amps only amplify, no more. Only at 2 ch input modes can the pro logic processor be utilized, this is the reason I recommend attaching another pair of RCA cables from the main left and right of the dvd player to any 2 ch input of the amp, say VCD or AUX. If your 387 has a Digital Signal Processor, it can be set to 4ch modes like LIVE, HALL, etc. Even though you're using a 2 ch source. The 2ch mode stands for stereo mode, the 3 ch mode stereo with a center but no surrounds, 5 ch, either 5.1 or prologic mode. The DSP mode is quite useful if you don't have or don't plan to use a center speaker.]

Bro fweyd,

If your amp is indeed a prologic amp, I don't see why yung front speakers mo lang ang umaandar. Unless, naka off ang prologic processing or may setting ka that turned off the surrounds. You can still enjoy movie sources without a center using prologic "phantom mode" or utilizing Yamaha's CinemaDSP processing.

Hope I helped.  ;D
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #558 on: Sep 19, 2005 at 02:40 PM »
sir arthurs says:
Bro fweyd,

If your amp is indeed a prologic amp, I don't see why yung front speakers mo lang ang umaandar. Unless, naka off ang prologic processing or may setting ka that turned off the surrounds. You can still enjoy movie sources without a center using prologic "phantom mode" or utilizing Yamaha's CinemaDSP processing.


--- may tanong ulit ako, btw, may euros8 center na rin ako hehe kapag naka prologic mode, may parang options dun sa gilid ng lcd na wide, normal, phantom... ngaun hindi ko alam kung paano maadjust un, lagi lang siya nasa normal at ano magiging effect nun sa 3-speaker setup or sa 5.1 setup...

thanks ulit, pasensya na sa newbieng tulad ko hehe

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #559 on: Sep 19, 2005 at 03:11 PM »

--- may tanong ulit ako, btw, may euros8 center na rin ako hehe kapag naka prologic mode, may parang options dun sa gilid ng lcd na wide, normal, phantom... ngaun hindi ko alam kung paano maadjust un, lagi lang siya nasa normal at ano magiging effect nun sa 3-speaker setup or sa 5.1 setup...

thanks ulit, pasensya na sa newbieng tulad ko hehe

Wide -  full range frequencies go to the center channel/spkr. Use only with full range center speakers capable of bass, or center speaker that is IDENTICAL with your L and R fronts.

Normal - bass is directed to L and R fronts or Subs if activated.  Default condition and best for most center speakers.

Phantom -  Use if you have no center speaker; matrixed center information is routed to L and R speakers so you get a "phantomed" center image just like ordinary stereo pair.

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #560 on: Sep 19, 2005 at 04:33 PM »
ang saya talaga dito, andami ko natututunan! hehe

thanks sir AV_phile and sir Arthur!

kaya pala pala kapag if i turn on the subw button may bass lumalabas sa 2 frons! hehe
so if ever na magkasub ako, kapag pinindot ko ung subw button sa avr, mapupunta ba lahat ng LFE sa Sub lang or Sub and L/R speakers!?

hehe as usual, newbie question! hehe

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #561 on: Sep 20, 2005 at 10:31 AM »
I personally don't like the wide mode, since it seems to lessen the focus on the center speaker. The dialogue's focus also seems lost at wide mode. But, different strokes for different folks.  ;)
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #562 on: Oct 02, 2005 at 02:42 PM »
check this out:

http://www.pbase.com/chino1328/image/27351304

that is a sakura 387. you can see that the the center and rear speakers  speakers impedance range is from 8ohms-16ohms. so pano nangyari na may mga gumagamit ng wharfedale speakers dito as rear/center eh 6ohms sila diba?pakiexplain naman. medyo nagdadalawang isip tuloy ako bumili ng wharfedale WH2.



Does anybody have pics of the insides?

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #563 on: Oct 11, 2005 at 05:41 PM »
tanong ko lang po kung meron pang sakura na pang stereo lang (2 channel)?
im going to use it for bass shaker?  magkano kaya ganitong amp?
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #564 on: Oct 12, 2005 at 09:45 AM »
can somebody please tell me what "NS" means?

I recently saw a Sakura amp schematic and it says "550W+550W@NS8ohms". Sadly, I didn't pay too much attention to it's model number. It just makes me wonder how they get that kind of power with a 3A transformer.

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #565 on: Oct 12, 2005 at 12:17 PM »
tanong ko lang po kung meron pang sakura na pang stereo lang (2 channel)?
im going to use it for bass shaker?  magkano kaya ganitong amp?
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I once got a Sakura stereo amp, it cost me 1,500 pesos. Yes, they can go as low as that, maybe even lower. :)
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #566 on: Oct 12, 2005 at 12:26 PM »
can somebody please tell me what "NS" means?

I recently saw a Sakura amp schematic and it says "550W+550W@NS8ohms". Sadly, I didn't pay too much attention to it's model number. It just makes me wonder how they get that kind of power with a 3A transformer.

Thanks


Yeah, what's NS?

Maybe it gets that power at high THD. My Sakura has a rating at 300W+300W @ 10 %THD.
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #567 on: Oct 12, 2005 at 05:18 PM »
Meron akong napakinggan na mga 2 channel sakura amps. Kung power ang paguusapan, malakas talaga.

Yung 5024, ito ata ang ginagamit nung mga videoke machines. Around 500 watts daw ito pero I'd guess the real RMS wattage is alot less than 500 but more than 100

Yun namang 737a, medyo mahal pero grabe ang lakas nito. 1400 daw ang wattage ;D Napakinggan ko to with a Behringer 18inch speaker, nasa 8 o'clock pa lang ang volume, nalalaglag na ang mga alikabok mula sa kisame. High current yata ito, yung type na di mo pwedeng ilipat ang speaker wires habang may music dahil makukuryente ka. The only other amp I've seen that does that is the Adcom GFA-585. Tinanong ko sa tech kung ano ang actual RMS wattage, di daw niya alam pero meron daw several 12amp rectifier diodes and +/-75V DC ang supply - whatever that means ???. Meron ata itong smaller brother, di ko matandaan yung model pero a bit less power and features for almost half the price.

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #568 on: Oct 12, 2005 at 08:06 PM »
Yeah, what's NS?

Maybe it gets that power at high THD. My Sakura has a rating at 300W+300W @ 10 %THD.

 ??? I'm very confused lang talaga.  ;D anyway the topology is very good, like most known brand amps i've had the chance to look at. and at least your amp had a rating which has 10%THD included.

I once got a Sakura stereo amp, it cost me 1,500 pesos. Yes, they can go as low as that, maybe even lower. :)

napakamura pala naman nyan bro, yun nabuksan ko naka torroidal pa eh. hhmmm.... baka pwede bili ako nyan tapos kakalasin ko yun transformer!  ;D ;D ;D

joke lang ha, seriously I'm impressed by the power of that amp.


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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #569 on: Oct 12, 2005 at 08:11 PM »
Meron akong napakinggan na mga 2 channel sakura amps. Kung power ang paguusapan, malakas talaga.

Yung 5024, ito ata ang ginagamit nung mga videoke machines. Around 500 watts daw ito pero I'd guess the real RMS wattage is alot less than 500 but more than 100

Yun namang 737a, medyo mahal pero grabe ang lakas nito. 1400 daw ang wattage ;D Napakinggan ko to with a Behringer 18inch speaker, nasa 8 o'clock pa lang ang volume, nalalaglag na ang mga alikabok mula sa kisame. High current yata ito, yung type na di mo pwedeng ilipat ang speaker wires habang may music dahil makukuryente ka. The only other amp I've seen that does that is the Adcom GFA-585. Tinanong ko sa tech kung ano ang actual RMS wattage, di daw niya alam pero meron daw several 12amp rectifier diodes and +/-75V DC ang supply - whatever that means ???. Meron ata itong smaller brother, di ko matandaan yung model pero a bit less power and features for almost half the price.

Rusty

yun leach amp ko 75Amp bridge rectifier at +/-63VDC supply and mga 120W lang nakalagay sa internet, mukhang ok yan 737A sir.  :D

hhmmm.... sana meron schematic yun 737A sa manual. sino meron manual?  ;D