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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1260 on: Jul 01, 2014 at 04:47 PM »
master sheldon / spock  freaky geeky!
idol na idol kita sa research at posting ng link lalo ung hindi sinulat ni roberto tiglao!

Ang naging problema ko lang dun ay alam naman natin lahat…naconvict po sya sa drugs,” he added, referring to Aunor.

http://entertainment.inquirer.net/146145/aquino-drugs-reason-why-nora-aunor-not-a-national-artist

(don't worry, di na kita ijajudge that you never read the full article and headlines to make the connection)  ^-^

Salamat bro. Pero actually bihira lang ako magpost ng link compared to you.  Sobrang sipag mo nga hindi mo na binabasa yun link na pinopost mo.  Sa dalas siguro.  Pero the link above ok yan.  Kasi mali nga si PNoy.  There was no conviction.  At least you are getting better at this.   :D
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1261 on: Jul 01, 2014 at 04:49 PM »
huwaw! a compliment from the master himself!  ^-^
am freaking geeking out! ^-^
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1262 on: Jul 01, 2014 at 04:49 PM »
Sorry but you heard wrong...that's not what she said in that interview.

what did she actually say?

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« Reply #1263 on: Jul 01, 2014 at 05:17 PM »
what did she actually say?

nalaman nya na may normal na kalakaran pala yung 10% SOP (yan kasi yung gawain nung pinalitan nya)...and that's not an "evidence" against her (unless tinuloy nya ung same kalakaran, in which case, ibang usapan yun)

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« Reply #1264 on: Jul 01, 2014 at 05:32 PM »
nalaman nya na may normal na kalakaran pala yung 10% SOP (yan kasi yung gawain nung pinalitan nya)...and that's not an "evidence" against her (unless tinuloy nya ung same kalakaran, in which case, ibang usapan yun)

That's not how I remembered it pero since wala nga ako ebidensya I'll give her the benefit of doubt.

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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1265 on: Jul 01, 2014 at 05:37 PM »
sabi nga ng isang direktor, "...you cannot marry morality and artistry. lahat ng artist may topak ! "

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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1266 on: Jul 01, 2014 at 07:14 PM »
Hahaha! Pati Nora Aunor thread tinitira ha! Sipag maghanap ng link.  :D  True there was no conviction.  Why? Because there was a plea bargain.  She agreed to attend a 6 month drug rehabilitation program and complete it in exchange for the case to be dismissed.  She was not acquitted.  Because there was no trial. The case was dismissed.  But she did serve a sentence....the 6 month drug rehab nga.  Funny the lawyer or writer called it "Diversion Program". :D. So when you enter a plea bargain and agree voluntarily to a 6 month rehab program.... you clearly don't do drugs right?  :D

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palagay ko the govt is sending a strong signal na bago ka parangalan ng gobyerno sa anumang galing mo, unang una dapat ikaw ay mabuting ehemplo. if you are followed because you are somebody, meron kang moral obligation. kung wala ka nito....you can still be an artist in your chosen art form, but without the recognition from the govt! just my 2 cents :)
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1267 on: Jul 01, 2014 at 07:58 PM »
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1268 on: Jul 01, 2014 at 09:37 PM »
so one can speculate:
babaero si mang pidol (SLN), dami anak sa iba't ibang babae
kaya pala hanggang kunswelo de bobo na gawad sikatuna or sulaiman (sounds like) lang siguro at ndi national artist
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1269 on: Jul 01, 2014 at 11:35 PM »
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1270 on: Jul 01, 2014 at 11:51 PM »
so one can speculate:
babaero si mang pidol (SLN), dami anak sa iba't ibang babae
kaya pala hanggang kunswelo de bobo na gawad sikatuna or sulaiman (sounds like) lang siguro at ndi national artist

siguro boss...eh di hintay na lang na magiba nag presidente, bka magiba din ang stand at criteria para magawaran ng parangal! 2 years na lang naman.
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1271 on: Jul 02, 2014 at 12:16 AM »
siguro boss...eh di hintay na lang na magiba nag presidente, bka magiba din ang stand at criteria para magawaran ng parangal! 2 years na lang naman.

That's correct.  Tutal same plight naman sila ni Binay di ba? :D  Sigurado aprub kagad si Ms Nora Aunor.

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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1272 on: Jul 05, 2014 at 01:11 PM »
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1273 on: Jul 05, 2014 at 01:14 PM »
5 things PNoy apparently didn’t know about Nora Aunor’s drug case
http://www.interaksyon.com/entertainment/5-things-pnoy-apparently-didnt-know-about-nora-aunors-drug-case/

Nora Aunor’s lawyer in the U.S. said in an official statement on Friday that the actress has “an unblemished record under U.S. law” and blasted at length President Benigno Aquino III’s official reason for denying her the National Artist award — that she had been “convicted and punished” in a drug case.

Atty. Claire Navarro Espina argued that the Philippine government “cannot create the fiction” that her client was ever convicted when American jurisprudence says otherwise.

Following are 5 things the President apparently did not know about the 2005 case, according to Espina, who swore to the accuracy of the details of her statement “under penalty of perjury”.

1. In practical terms, the case never happened.

The judge dismissed it two years after Aunor was booked for alleged possession of a controlled substance found in her luggage at the Los Angeles Airport.

“Ms. Aunor has no record of conviction in any U.S. jurisdiction precisely because she was never sentenced and hence, never convicted,” Espina said.

“In fact, the other day when I sought the retrieval of her files in connection with media request, the Clerk of the Court informed me that her file has been sealed by order of the Court,” she added.

“Under California law, the arrest is deemed to never have happened.”

2. Aunor was charged for alleged possession, not for using drugs.

The drug in question, according to a legal report by another Los Angeles-based lawyer, Roman Mosqueda, was 8 grams of metamphetamine hydrochloride (shabu). The “controlled substance,” Espina narrated, was “found in a man’s athletic shoe in her luggage”, which was “packed, handled, and carried by her entourage”.

Espina said Aunor’s “entourage fled, leaving her, literally, holding the bag”.

3. She did not spend any time in jail.

Upon being booked for felony drug possession at the L.A. Police Department in Van Nuys, Aunor was immediately released on a bond secured by Espina’s firm, Edelberg & Espina.

“She never spent time in jail, nor was she incarcerated for any offense,” Espina said.

4. She did not go to rehab.

“Ms. Aunor enrolled in two civil diversion programs with certain conditions tailored to accommodate her specific situation. Unlike other participants, she was never in any drug detoxification or residential treatment program. She was not subjected to medical treatment,” Espina revealed.

Those programs involved “intense counseling and educational sessions that provided her with problem solving and coping skills”.

5. She was found to be clean as a whistle.

“Ms. Aunor underwent and passed more than 40 random drug tests administered by numerous court-approved laboratory facilities, in various locations in the United States,” Espina declared.

“So long as she attended all her counseling sessions and passed all her laboratory tests, she was free to live her life and pursue her profession,” the lawyer added.

Aunor held concerts and charity events across the U.S. in the two years between her arrest and the dismissal of her case.

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« Reply #1274 on: Jul 08, 2014 at 10:53 PM »
so one can speculate:
babaero si mang pidol (SLN), dami anak sa iba't ibang babae
kaya pala hanggang kunswelo de bobo na gawad sikatuna or sulaiman (sounds like) lang siguro at ndi national artist
kasi wala syang K maging NA
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1275 on: Jul 09, 2014 at 12:25 AM »
5 things PNoy apparently didn’t know about Nora Aunor’s drug case
http://www.interaksyon.com/entertainment/5-things-pnoy-apparently-didnt-know-about-nora-aunors-drug-case/

Nora Aunor’s lawyer in the U.S. said in an official statement on Friday that the actress has “an unblemished record under U.S. law” and blasted at length President Benigno Aquino III’s official reason for denying her the National Artist award — that she had been “convicted and punished” in a drug case.

Atty. Claire Navarro Espina argued that the Philippine government “cannot create the fiction” that her client was ever convicted when American jurisprudence says otherwise.

Following are 5 things the President apparently did not know about the 2005 case, according to Espina, who swore to the accuracy of the details of her statement “under penalty of perjury”.

1. In practical terms, the case never happened.

The judge dismissed it two years after Aunor was booked for alleged possession of a controlled substance found in her luggage at the Los Angeles Airport.

“Ms. Aunor has no record of conviction in any U.S. jurisdiction precisely because she was never sentenced and hence, never convicted,” Espina said.

“In fact, the other day when I sought the retrieval of her files in connection with media request, the Clerk of the Court informed me that her file has been sealed by order of the Court,” she added.

“Under California law, the arrest is deemed to never have happened.”

2. Aunor was charged for alleged possession, not for using drugs.

The drug in question, according to a legal report by another Los Angeles-based lawyer, Roman Mosqueda, was 8 grams of metamphetamine hydrochloride (shabu). The “controlled substance,” Espina narrated, was “found in a man’s athletic shoe in her luggage”, which was “packed, handled, and carried by her entourage”.

Espina said Aunor’s “entourage fled, leaving her, literally, holding the bag”.

3. She did not spend any time in jail.

Upon being booked for felony drug possession at the L.A. Police Department in Van Nuys, Aunor was immediately released on a bond secured by Espina’s firm, Edelberg & Espina.

“She never spent time in jail, nor was she incarcerated for any offense,” Espina said.

4. She did not go to rehab.

“Ms. Aunor enrolled in two civil diversion programs with certain conditions tailored to accommodate her specific situation. Unlike other participants, she was never in any drug detoxification or residential treatment program. She was not subjected to medical treatment,” Espina revealed.

Those programs involved “intense counseling and educational sessions that provided her with problem solving and coping skills”.

5. She was found to be clean as a whistle.

“Ms. Aunor underwent and passed more than 40 random drug tests administered by numerous court-approved laboratory facilities, in various locations in the United States,” Espina declared.

“So long as she attended all her counseling sessions and passed all her laboratory tests, she was free to live her life and pursue her profession,” the lawyer added.

Aunor held concerts and charity events across the U.S. in the two years between her arrest and the dismissal of her case.

hindi claro boss eh.....

"The drug in question, according to a legal report by another Los Angeles-based lawyer, Roman Mosqueda, was 8 grams of metamphetamine hydrochloride (shabu). The “controlled substance,” Espina narrated, was “found in a man’s athletic shoe in her luggage”, which was “packed, handled, and carried by her entourage”.
Espina said Aunor’s “entourage fled, leaving her, literally, holding the bag”.

may arrest, nahulihan ng shabu! then the entourage fled? who were her entourage? (acc to the lawyers) of course, defense lawyer nga eh!

so walang conviction? why? dahil nagenroll sa diversion program. so before entering into a division program ano ang mga requisite? ano ang napapaloob sa diversion program na pinasukan ni la aunor?

we are entirely focused on what pnoy said about conviction. but the real score are drugs per se! binibyak natin ang bwat pangungusap na binitiwan ng presidente, pero hindi natin naisip kung ano ang buod noon.


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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1276 on: Jul 09, 2014 at 07:15 AM »
So one of the criteria pala is that the nominee must not have been involved in a known or controversial act of wrongdoing. :)
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« Reply #1277 on: Jul 09, 2014 at 07:57 AM »
So one of the criteria pala is that the nominee must not have been involved in a known or controversial act of wrongdoing. :)

Aba e, dapat i-apply rin yan sa mga kakandidato sa halalan.
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1278 on: Jul 09, 2014 at 08:11 AM »
So one of the criteria pala is that the nominee must not have been involved in a known or controversial act of wrongdoing. :)

The plea bargain was to voluntarily attend and submit to a drug rehab program and pay a fine  Also at least according to the Inquirer, she pleaded guilty to drug possession for her charges to be dropped.  To plead guilty malaking bagay na. 

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Later that month, Aunor pleaded guilty to drug possession before Superior Court Judge James Brandlin and joined a drug diversion program.

http://entertainment.inquirer.net/146250/no-drug-conviction-nora-aunors-lawyer-insists

So she....

1.  Entered into a plea bargain
2.  Voluntarily entered into a drug rehab program
3.  Paid a fine
4.  Eto yun mabigat, pleaded guilty

That would certainly be more than mere involvement di ba?

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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1279 on: Jul 09, 2014 at 05:16 PM »
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1280 on: Jul 09, 2014 at 05:47 PM »
hindi claro boss eh.....

"The drug in question, according to a legal report by another Los Angeles-based lawyer, Roman Mosqueda, was 8 grams of metamphetamine hydrochloride (shabu). The “controlled substance,” Espina narrated, was “found in a man’s athletic shoe in her luggage”, which was “packed, handled, and carried by her entourage”.
Espina said Aunor’s “entourage fled, leaving her, literally, holding the bag”.

may arrest, nahulihan ng shabu! then the entourage fled? who were her entourage? (acc to the lawyers) of course, defense lawyer nga eh!

so walang conviction? why? dahil nagenroll sa diversion program. so before entering into a division program ano ang mga requisite? ano ang napapaloob sa diversion program na pinasukan ni la aunor?

we are entirely focused on what pnoy said about conviction. but the real score are drugs per se! binibyak natin ang bwat pangungusap na binitiwan ng presidente, pero hindi natin naisip kung ano ang buod noon.


May lusot pa din, boss. Pwedeng inako nya lang na sa kanya 'yung drugs, sabi nga sa statement noong lawyer nya sa loob ng athletic shoe na pang lalake sa loob ng bagahe nya nakuha 'yung drugs. Pwedeng may ibang tao na naglagay nun. Pero syempre, palusot lang, pero pwede din totoo kasi pumasa naman sya sa more than 40 random drug tests. So kung hindi sya gumagamit, kanino 'yun?  :)

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« Reply #1281 on: Jul 09, 2014 at 06:04 PM »
May lusot pa din, boss. Pwedeng inako nya lang na sa kanya 'yung drugs, sabi nga sa statement noong lawyer nya sa loob ng athletic shoe na pang lalake sa loob ng bagahe nya nakuha 'yung drugs. Pwedeng may ibang tao na naglagay nun. Pero syempre, palusot lang, pero pwede din totoo kasi pumasa naman sya sa more than 40 random drug tests. So kung hindi sya gumagamit, kanino 'yun?  :)

bka kay richard merk! ;D ;D ;D

it was said that she passed the test...walang sinabi kung kailan na test. after ba ng arrest o after ng trial and during the diversion program?  ang met pag hindi ka heavy user madaling i flush out sa system.  buko at bearbrand lang ang katapat nyan eh, nega ka sa drug testing! saka bakit intense yung diversion program? (intense counseling and educational sessions that provided her with problem solving and coping skills) anong ang malaking problema? until the aunor camp divulge the kind of sessions that the diversion program is offering, ang burden of proof ay nasa kanila. madaling sabihin sa lahat kung wala naman talagang nangyari.kahiyahiya pang lalabas ang nagparatang sa iyo.  pero bkt kulang kulang ang info coming from them?.....my guess is as good as those vilmanians ;D ;D 
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1282 on: Jul 11, 2014 at 06:18 AM »
A close friend of mine who served in Miss Aunor's residence swears na talagang may problema ito dati,
lalo na ng magsimula ng lumubog ang bituin nya, in my opinion, she doesn't deserve the award,
its not being righteous, but manatili kang matino sa buhay mo, alam mo ng bawal gagamit ka pa,..?
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1283 on: Jul 11, 2014 at 03:38 PM »
May nakabasa na ba ng National Artists of the Philippines Guidelines?

Someone gave me a link at sabi doon sa Number 6, letter "f" under Administration of Award...

(f) must not have been convicted with finality of any crime by a court of justice or dismissed for a cause by any organization, whether public or private.

May punto  ;)

Wala nabanggit na "if he/she pleaded guilty or if he/she enrolled in a diversion program.

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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1284 on: Jul 11, 2014 at 04:17 PM »
May nakabasa na ba ng National Artists of the Philippines Guidelines?

Someone gave me a link at sabi doon sa Number 6, letter "f" under Administration of Award...

(f) must not have been convicted with finality of any crime by a court of justice or dismissed for a cause by any organization, whether public or private.

May punto  ;)

Wala nabanggit na "if he/she pleaded guilty or if he/she enrolled in a diversion program.

I think bro yun nagpa disqualify naman is simply the President's preference....under President discretion.  Kahit na napaka unrealistic ng dahilan ng presidente, yun ang masusunod.  Kung ang tanong lang is pasado ba sa lahat ng criteria...pasado yata lahat.  But pwedeng ma veto ng presidente... kung "feel" nya.

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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1285 on: Jul 11, 2014 at 04:31 PM »
guilty or not guilty man si Nora, i do agree that she deserves the National Artist award.

for me, she is more deserving than Carlo J. Caparas who was awarded by then president GMA. ito ang malinaw na "luto".
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1286 on: Jul 11, 2014 at 04:50 PM »
guilty or not guilty man si Nora, i do agree that she deserves the National Artist award.

for me, she is more deserving than Carlo J. Caparas who was awarded by then president GMA. ito ang malinaw na "luto".

I cringe every time I see the Carlo J. Caparas street in Pasig along C-5.  ;D
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« Reply #1287 on: Jul 11, 2014 at 05:16 PM »
WTF! may Carlo J. Caparas street pala ?!
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« Reply #1288 on: Jul 11, 2014 at 05:38 PM »
here.. see for your self..  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The Nora Aunor Thread
« Reply #1289 on: Jul 13, 2014 at 05:36 PM »
Wala pa bang statement sina Boyet de Leon or si Pip? or kahit si Maria Leonora Teresa? :D