Author Topic: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series (Read 568309 times)

vvt-i · « **Reply #1920 on:** Mar 05, 2006 at 06:44 PM »

Quote from: spy45cal on Mar 05, 2006 at 03:31 PM

Thanks sir,

What do you recommend na sub na ok for HT pero 10K below ang budget? Syempre compatible with wharfe's.... Sorry Mods medyo OT na ata yung topic....

US audio 512 or dynaquest dq12 lang ang napakinggan ko na sub10k aside from sw150.

barrister · « **Reply #1921 on:** Mar 06, 2006 at 12:29 AM »

Quote from: spy45cal on Mar 05, 2006 at 08:03 AM

I'm plannig to buy a 9.5 this month... Ano kaya sa tingin nyo dapat ko unahin? Front speaker (Wharfe Diamond 9.5) or Sub (SW150)?
BTW i already have:

avr: hk235
center: Wharfe Diamond 9cm
front: mini compo speaker (Phillips 3000w PMPO)
surround: mini compo speaker ( Sony 75w max)

What do you think mga bro?

Agree ako kay sir jetok -- Wharfe 9.5 na lang ang bilhin mo instead of a sub.

Ang sub kasi, paminsan-minsan lang gumagana nang malakas.

At hindi mo dapat masyadong taasan ang volume level. Pag bago ka pa lang, ang tendency kasi ay lalakasan mo ang volume ng sub para dinig na dinig mo. And it's understandable -- after spending so much money, you'd really want to hear the d(am)n thing working. On a side note, another tendency pag bago pa lang sa HT, ay masyadong malakas ang volume ng surrounds. (Ganun din ako dati, e.

)

The sub is supposed to be an extension of the other speakers. When the sub takes over the lowest frequencies, dapat parang tuloy-tuloy ang transition from the higher frequencies reproduced by the other speakers. Hence, the sub should not call attention to itself. If it does, your system is not properly calibrated (or maybe, not properly matched).

So kung gagastos ka agad sa sub, hindi ka magiging masyadong happy, dahil nasa background lang naman nagtatrabaho ang sub. Pero pag 9.5 ang binili mo, mas happy ka, kasi nasa foreground ang trabaho n'yan, so dinig na dinig mo ang improvement ng upgrade mo. Kayang-kaya naman ng 9.5 ang low frequencies --- Ang lakas ng bass niyan!

Pag bumili ka agad ng budget sub, pagdating ng araw na may 9.5 ka na, siguradong upgrade ka na naman. Bakit? Kasi, sa lakas ng bass ng 9.5, mapapansin mong bitin ang bass ng low-priced sub mo. So, upgrade ka na naman.

Tignan mo ang advice ni sir jeckjeck:

Quote from: jeckjeck on Mar 05, 2006 at 08:45 AM

... kung gusto mo talaga ng floorstander then buy a very good 10 to 12 inch sub like a Velodyne or a Klipsch or a Polk Audio...

Bakit niya sinasabi na kailangan maganda ang sub mo para sa floorstander? Kasi pag floorstander, ang lakas ng bass. At kung malakas na ang bass ng floorstander, baka maging useless na ang budget sub dahil natabunan na ng bass ng floorstander.

Ang advice ko rin, 9.5 ka na. You can buy a better sub later.

jeckjeck · « **Reply #1922 on:** Mar 06, 2006 at 08:52 AM »

hehehe... kulang ng comma... I meant get a 9.4 kung gusto ni spy45cal ng floorstanders and not bookshelves... then get a good sub...

for me kasi an HT is not complete without a sub

barrister · « **Reply #1923 on:** Mar 06, 2006 at 10:57 AM »

Ah, oo nga. I forgot na floorstander din pala ang 9.4. Hindi pa ako nakakita ng 9.4 in person - laging sa pictures lang.

X-®an™ · « **Reply #1924 on:** Mar 06, 2006 at 06:47 PM »

Quote from: spy45cal on Mar 05, 2006 at 08:03 AM

I'm plannig to buy a 9.5 this month... Ano kaya sa tingin nyo dapat ko unahin? Front speaker (Wharfe Diamond 9.5) or Sub (SW150)?
BTW i already have:

avr: hk235
center: Wharfe Diamond 9cm
front: mini compo speaker (Phillips 3000w PMPO)
surround: mini compo speaker ( Sony 75w max)

What do you think mga bro?

Maki-sabat na rin, unahin mo na yung 9.5 like they have already said. Or... why don't you go for the 9.6?

spy45cal · « **Reply #1925 on:** Mar 07, 2006 at 03:58 PM »

Quote from: jetok on Mar 05, 2006 at 06:44 PM

US audio 512 or dynaquest dq12 lang ang napakinggan ko na sub10k aside from sw150.

ok tnx...

audition ko nalan silang dalawa...

spy45cal · « **Reply #1926 on:** Mar 07, 2006 at 04:01 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Mar 06, 2006 at 12:29 AM

Agree ako kay sir jetok -- Wharfe 9.5 na lang ang bilhin mo instead of a sub.

Ang sub kasi, paminsan-minsan lang gumagana nang malakas.

At hindi mo dapat masyadong taasan ang volume level. Pag bago ka pa lang, ang tendency kasi ay lalakasan mo ang volume ng sub para dinig na dinig mo. And it's understandable -- after spending so much money, you'd really want to hear the d(am)n thing working. On a side note, another tendency pag bago pa lang sa HT, ay masyadong malakas ang volume ng surrounds. (Ganun din ako dati, e. )

The sub is supposed to be an extension of the other speakers. When the sub takes over the lowest frequencies, dapat parang tuloy-tuloy ang transition from the higher frequencies reproduced by the other speakers. Hence, the sub should not call attention to itself. If it does, your system is not properly calibrated (or maybe, not properly matched).

So kung gagastos ka agad sa sub, hindi ka magiging masyadong happy, dahil nasa background lang naman nagtatrabaho ang sub. Pero pag 9.5 ang binili mo, mas happy ka, kasi nasa foreground ang trabaho n'yan, so dinig na dinig mo ang improvement ng upgrade mo. Kayang-kaya naman ng 9.5 ang low frequencies --- Ang lakas ng bass niyan!

Pag bumili ka agad ng budget sub, pagdating ng araw na may 9.5 ka na, siguradong upgrade ka na naman. Bakit? Kasi, sa lakas ng bass ng 9.5, mapapansin mong bitin ang bass ng low-priced sub mo. So, upgrade ka na naman.

Tignan mo ang advice ni sir jeckjeck:

Bakit niya sinasabi na kailangan maganda ang sub mo para sa floorstander? Kasi pag floorstander, ang lakas ng bass. At kung malakas na ang bass ng floorstander, baka maging useless na ang budget sub dahil natabunan na ng bass ng floorstander.

Ang advice ko rin, 9.5 ka na. You can buy a better sub later.

oki po...

Audition ko nalan yung 9.4 and 9.5 tsaka nalang yung sub.... pag ipunan ko nalan siguro yung sub to get a decent one....

spy45cal · « **Reply #1927 on:** Mar 07, 2006 at 04:05 PM »

Quote from: jeckjeck on Mar 06, 2006 at 08:52 AM

hehehe... kulang ng comma... I meant get a 9.4 kung gusto ni spy45cal ng floorstanders and not bookshelves... then get a good sub...

for me kasi an HT is not complete without a sub

Thanks sa advice sir....

Audition ko nalan siguro pareho yung 9.4 and 9.5 ....

Bout sa sub, pagipunan ko nalan siguro yung 12" ng velodyne....

spy45cal · « **Reply #1928 on:** Mar 07, 2006 at 04:08 PM »

Quote from: X-Ran on Mar 06, 2006 at 06:47 PM

Maki-sabat na rin, unahin mo na yung 9.5 like they have already said. Or... why don't you go for the 9.6?

Thanks sa reply bro....

Masyado na malaki yung 9.6 sa room ko.... 9.4 and 9.5 lang ang choices ko e... Anyway, thanks ulit sa reply....

barrister · « **Reply #1929 on:** Mar 07, 2006 at 04:53 PM »

Quote from: spy45cal on Mar 07, 2006 at 04:08 PM

9.4 and 9.5 lang ang choices ko e...

I suggest 9.5 ka na lang instead of a 9.4, kasi may 9.CM center ka na.

Baka hindi bagay ang 9.4 sa 9.CM, kasi napansin ko sa brochure ng Wharfe, 9.CS lang ang recommended para sa 9.4.

Kung wala ka pang brochure, pls download and see page 13 thereof -
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/brochure_3.pdf

9.CM is matched with 9.3, 9.5 or 9.6.

spy45cal · « **Reply #1930 on:** Mar 10, 2006 at 05:59 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Mar 07, 2006 at 04:53 PM

I suggest 9.5 ka na lang instead of a 9.4, kasi may 9.CM center ka na.

Baka hindi bagay ang 9.4 sa 9.CM, kasi napansin ko sa brochure ng Wharfe, 9.CS lang ang recommended para sa 9.4.

Kung wala ka pang brochure, pls download and see page 13 thereof -
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/brochure_3.pdf

9.CM is matched with 9.3, 9.5 or 9.6.

Sorry for the late reply bro...
Sana makakuha ako ng actual brochure...

Anyway, thanks bro, it helps me alot....

I'll go for 9.5 nalang, magagawan naman siguro ng adjustment sa avr kung sakaling maging boomy yung sound...

spectraav · « **Reply #1931 on:** Mar 11, 2006 at 10:45 AM »

Quote from: spy45cal on Mar 10, 2006 at 05:59 PM

Sorry for the late reply bro...
Sana makakuha ako ng actual brochure...
Anyway, thanks bro, it helps me alot....
I'll go for 9.5 nalang, magagawan naman siguro ng adjustment sa avr kung sakaling maging boomy yung sound...

sir u could drop by our store and get d brochure

spy45cal · « **Reply #1932 on:** Mar 11, 2006 at 07:28 PM »

Quote from: spectraav on Mar 11, 2006 at 10:45 AM

sir u could drop by our store and get d brochure

Wow...

Thanks alot....

spy45cal · « **Reply #1933 on:** Mar 18, 2006 at 10:06 AM »

Mga bro,

Im planning to buy 9.5 (maybe today) san ba may pinaka murang price? 12,500 (cash price) kasi sa mga napagtanungan ko before e... Baka may alam kayo para medyo makatipid ako ng konti....

spy45cal · « **Reply #1934 on:** Mar 21, 2006 at 06:53 AM »

Mga bro,

Got my diamond 9.5 na sa wakas...

Pano ba mag break-in ng speakers?
Gaano ba kalakas or kahina yung volume kapag nag bbreak-in ng speaker?
Meron ba audio cd na magandang pang break-in ng speakers? If yes, what title and san po nakakabili nito?
Gaano ba katagal para ma break-in yung speaker?

Sensya na mga bro kung dami ko tanong and kung masyado ako makulit.... Gusto ko lang kasi masulit yung pagkakabili ko ng speaker and to take care of it properly....

TIA

barrister · « **Reply #1935 on:** Mar 21, 2006 at 11:51 PM »

Wowowee! Congrats, bosing. Nakakuha ka rin, finally. Inaabangan ko kasi ang purchase mo, e.

Where & how much did you get them, sir? Will you be using the metal spikes?

Sarap ng bagong gears. Like being a kid with a new toy.

Isa lang ang advice ko para tumagal ang speakers -- Don't play too loud.

Prolonged, excessive volumes with distortion/clipping cause overheated voice coils. That means don't use them for parties and/or videoke sessions. These are the situations where you're so busy with other things that you fail to notice distortion levels.

Huwag mong masyadong intindihin ang "break-in". Konting konti lang naman ang difference, malalaspag pa ang receiver at player mo. I used to have a pair of vintage speakers that I bought in 1978, used for about 21 years, then gave away to a friend in 1999. Halos wala akong napansin na pagbabago in 21 years, and they still sounded like new when I gave them away in 1999. Bakit tumagal ang buhay? I always used them at moderate volume levels only.

Of course, all appliances benefit from break-in, but the improvement would not be as dramatic as some people claim. Ang exception ay subwoofers. A break-in period will improve a sub's performance significantly.

moks · « **Reply #1936 on:** Mar 22, 2006 at 06:28 PM »

ano mas match sa hk avr235 diamond 9.1 or monitor audio b2 for HT?

spy45cal · « **Reply #1937 on:** Mar 22, 2006 at 06:39 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Mar 21, 2006 at 11:51 PM

Wowowee! Congrats, bosing. Nakakuha ka rin, finally. Inaabangan ko kasi ang purchase mo, e.

Where & how much did you get them, sir? Will you be using the metal spikes?

Sarap ng bagong gears. Like being a kid with a new toy.

Isa lang ang advice ko para tumagal ang speakers -- Don't play too loud.

Prolonged, excessive volumes with distortion/clipping cause overheated voice coils. That means don't use them for parties and/or videoke sessions. These are the situations where you're so busy with other things that you fail to notice distortion levels.

Huwag mong masyadong intindihin ang "break-in". Konting konti lang naman ang difference, malalaspag pa ang receiver at player mo. I used to have a pair of vintage speakers that I bought in 1978, used for about 21 years, then gave away to a friend in 1999. Halos wala akong napansin na pagbabago in 21 years, and they still sounded like new when I gave them away in 1999. Bakit tumagal ang buhay? I always used them at moderate volume levels only.

Of course, all appliances benefit from break-in, but the improvement would not be as dramatic as some people claim. Ang exception ay subwoofers. A break-in period will improve a sub's performance significantly.

PM kita bro...

atomicat10 · « **Reply #1938 on:** Mar 22, 2006 at 08:49 PM »

Mga sirs, I had a diamond 9.cs which i had already disposed, ask ko lang kung ang internal wiring ng diamond 9 series parehas lang ng 8 series na Monster XP?

Another thing, do the tweeters no longer have the FERRO fluid stuff pagdating sa 9 series kasi parang mas trip ko yun eh?

Last, I know that the magnets are totally different between the series, what's the difference in performance, which is better? Pero I have to admit better ang binding post ng 9 series.

Ferl · « **Reply #1939 on:** Apr 03, 2006 at 12:36 PM »

magtatanong lang po is wharfedale speakers are as good as it was before.is it worth a buck to buy wharfedale.beginner papo kc ako.pwede po bang makahingi ng advice.

titan · « **Reply #1940 on:** Apr 03, 2006 at 01:33 PM »

hi,

I'm a proud owner of diamond 9.1 paired with denon 1906. I also auditioned the D9.2 but due to budget constrain i settle for the D9.1 and quite happy with it.

jeckjeck · « **Reply #1941 on:** Apr 03, 2006 at 01:59 PM »

nice sir.. we have the same set up... Denon 1906 and Diamond 9.1s sa front, Diamond 9CS center and Diamond 9SR for rear... ayos na ayos especially after ma-auto set up

atomicat10 · « **Reply #1942 on:** Apr 03, 2006 at 02:12 PM »

ask ko lang kung ang internal wiring ng diamond 9 series parehas lang ng 8 series na Monster XP?

Another thing, do the tweeters no longer have the FERRO fluid stuff pagdating sa 9 series kasi parang mas trip ko yun eh?

Last, I know that the magnets are totally different between the series, what's the difference in performance, which is better?

titan · « **Reply #1943 on:** Apr 04, 2006 at 05:28 PM »

sir jeck,

mine is wh2 center/surrounds to complete the set-up, might replace the center with Dcs if the budget permits. Good thing nabenta ko na din yun Paradigm Titan ko.

jeckjeck · « **Reply #1944 on:** Apr 04, 2006 at 05:36 PM »

nice... slowly but surely sir...

ako... planning to upgrade my fronts to 9.2s or 9.5s and move the 9.1 to the back. The DSRs will then be for surround back... kaso no budget...

Baka antayin ko na rin yung next sa Diamond series ng Wharfedale... Diamond 10s?

titan · « **Reply #1945 on:** Apr 06, 2006 at 01:05 AM »

oops kala ko denon 1906 unit ko 1706 pala

titan · « **Reply #1946 on:** Apr 06, 2006 at 01:30 AM »

kakahiya nato denon 1705 pala

BuLLeT · « **Reply #1947 on:** Apr 06, 2006 at 02:24 PM »

Ano ba talaga KUya??

.. ahihihihihi peace

atomicat10 · « **Reply #1948 on:** Apr 06, 2006 at 07:09 PM »

That was really funny

next time all you have to do is to modify your orig. post.

Back to the topic. Can somebody please enlighten my querries bet. the diff. of diamond 8 and 9 series.Thanks.

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ask ko lang kung ang internal wiring ng diamond 9 series parehas lang ng 8 series na Monster XP?

Another thing, do the tweeters no longer have the FERRO fluid stuff pagdating sa 9 series kasi parang mas trip ko yun eh?

Last, I know that the magnets are totally different between the series, what's the difference in performance, which is better?

izukiultra · « **Reply #1949 on:** Apr 07, 2006 at 09:27 AM »

Quote from: atomicat10 on Apr 03, 2006 at 02:12 PM

ask ko lang kung ang internal wiring ng diamond 9 series parehas lang ng 8 series na Monster XP?

Another thing, do the tweeters no longer have the FERRO fluid stuff pagdating sa 9 series kasi parang mas trip ko yun eh?

Last, I know that the magnets are totally different between the series, what's the difference in performance, which is better?

Sa brochure nila they say they are using Nonster Cable for the wiring.

Why bother with FERRO fliuid on the Tweeter? If your are reffering to the 8 series, definitely 9 series have better drivers & enclosures. I had a many experienced with Diamond 8. Sound? Diamond 9 has 2 steps better thatn the latter. (This is just me)