Topic: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series

[3j]

Hi mga Sir,

Just want to ask How much is the lowest price of brand new Diamond CS (cheery flavor?)

Thanks.

[ProtegeManiac]

guys, got a question....i've got diamond 9.2's for about 3 months now (coupled with a marantz 4500) and i've been playing it for about an hour each day. it sounds great, can play loud if you want, pretty warm characteristic....but i feel na kulang siya sa clarity/details kahit with original music cd's or even dvds...something which i heard from the demo units in shang and even in ambassador. tried changing positions, even tried playing it without the other speakers/sub pero ganun pa din. any other tips/suggestions? TIA

aside from acoustic treatments and room characteristics, also consider your listening position when you auditioned the speakers. if you were standing close to them during a "demo" (vs a real listening session) instead of sitting down at considerable distance and at a certain ear to tweeter height ratio (Im inventing terms here but you know what I mean), the former will have you getting more detail. system response is affected not simply by amp or speaker response curves but by output power relative to room size.

[sanabagan]

noted, guys. thanks!

[rodel5]

Hi mga Sir,

Just want to ask How much is the lowest price of brand new Diamond CS (cheery flavor?)

Thanks.

cherry flavor? try mercury drugs,meron ata dun.ah eh ano ba ung tinatanong mo?kala ko condom.hehehe,cheers...

[RXV]

Hi mga Sir,

Just want to ask How much is the lowest price of brand new Diamond CS (cheery flavor?)

Thanks.

The standard SRP is around P4500. Try asking SGT Home Theater. Mas mura yata dun ng konti 

[3j]

Thank you very much @RXV@ Regards.

[RXV]

You're welcome bro. Also, you can also opt to buy pre-owned gears.
Meron dito nagbebenta ng 9CS for P3k before, mint condition. In rare situations, even lower

[gearhead]

well, madalas nga me FS na diamonds sa marketplace... pero yung cherry-flavored, este, cherry-colored pala  eh medyo me kahirapan mahanap. even sa dealers minsan for order pa. anyway, my diamonds are cherry too, and i love this color.

[RXV]

well, madalas nga me FS na diamonds sa marketplace... pero yung cherry-flavored, este, cherry-colored pala  eh medyo me kahirapan mahanap. even sa dealers minsan for order pa. anyway, my diamonds are cherry too, and i love this color.

Mas madaling bagayin yung black color diamonds sa room/equipment.
But I do agree, mas mukhang "expensive/authentic" ang cherry color.

[barrister]

First choice ko din ang cherry.  Mas pogi na, mas bagay pa sa AV rack and furniture ko.

May cherry sa suki ko (Spectra), pero wala daw available na cherry for surround speakers.  I asked other shops, wala daw talagang complete set Diamond 9 na cherry kasi wala talagang cherry na Diamond 9 surrounds sa Pinas.

Black na lang kinuha ko sa Spectra para matching ang buong set.  Besides, black lang ang available sa Klipsch subwoofer ko, so mas OK pa rin ang black na Diamond 9 set sa akin para match lahat ng kulay ng speakers.   

[gearhead]

diamond bipole surrounds are available in black only, whether in pinas or otherwise. there are available dfs surrounds though in other colors. eto yung mga dfs for the evo series yata, with the 5.25" woofers as against the 9.dfs' 4" ones. i saw one sa greenhills dati for around P9k, cherry colored. mas malaki siya talaga than the 9.dfs.

for the diamonds, if you want to go with the complementing color all throughout, go with the 9.SR, or better yet, the d9.1 if you have the space for it at the back.

[3j]

Thank you so much po for your very informative comments... I inquired from HT stores in Makati and Alabang area the cheapest is Php 4,275 cash basis for the Diamond CS cheery flavor pero i-order pa, availability of the unit is after 2days , other is Php 4,800 pwede cash/charge. mura na po ba eto para sa brand new? Regards po. 

[squatt3r]

@3j sa hi-fi lounge ka ba nag-inquire?

[3j]

@squtt3r : you've got pm Sir.

[busabos]

I'll be buying 9.4 tomorrow which of these would be the best match HK 3380, Denon 1797, Onkyo 504.  I will only use this for stereo listening, actually I'll be connecting this to my PC.  My prference would be 70% movies 30% music.

TIA...

[greyman]

Bi-amping as I know is using 2 amps to power your speakers HF & LF separately. The problem is onkyo 605 does not have pre-outs for power amps.

And if you are referring to the assignable bi-amp feature thats coming up on the recent receivers, I may be wrong but ImHO cant see how a receiver dividing its power rating into 7 channels from one power supply can give the results of a real bi-amp (w/ 2 power supplies). The feature only sounds like marketing strategy to me.

I have bi-amped my setup before but with a 5 channel power amp for the LF and my HK6 series for the HF, on all 3 front speakers. Words cant express how they sounded so eto na lang:

 

thanks for the reply matzter.

the sr605 can use the surround back channels for biamping the fronts. it will be limited to playing 5.1 for zone 1 though.

will biwiring make the same improvements? which will sound better a biamped 5.1 system or a biwired 7.1 system?

[MAtZTER]

the sr605 can use the surround back channels for biamping the fronts. it will be limited to playing 5.1 for zone 1 though.

will biwiring make the same improvements? which will sound better a biamped 5.1 system or a biwired 7.1 system?

IMhO, improvements are more audible with biamping, I didnt hear much difference with biwiring. On a receiver's viewpoint of dividing its power to 7 channels, expect only around 30-40w / bi-amped channel, not its advertised 100+ watts.

I have a 7.1 setup. I rarely hear the 6th & 7th channel even if I activate the extra surrounds through matrix mode. It adds an extra WOW to some surround scenes... but once in a blue moon. A well placed 5.1 is enough if your room is not huge.

[stipen22]

I'll be buying 9.4 tomorrow which of these would be the best match HK 3380, Denon 1797, Onkyo 504.  I will only use this for stereo listening, actually I'll be connecting this to my PC.  My prference would be 70% movies 30% music.

TIA...

I think HK 3380 would perform better than the other two, since its a stereo AVR all of its guts will be use to drive the Diamond 9.4. BTW I have the same setup as you've planning right now but my preference is 90/10 (music/movies). Imho this would not suffice to your preference of 70/30 movies and music respectively, you need a 5.1 setup to fully captivate into the movie scene but for music it would be great since common music format nowdays are in stereo format.

My two cents..

[busabos]

I think HK 3380 would perform better than the other two, since its a stereo AVR all of its guts will be use to drive the Diamond 9.4. BTW I have the same setup as you've planning right now but my preference is 90/10 (music/movies). Imho this would not suffice to your preference of 70/30 movies and music respectively, you need a 5.1 setup to fully captivate into the movie scene but for music it would be great since common music format nowdays are in stereo format.

My two cents..

I might have a change of plan.  What if I'll use 9.5, would it be better? or the amp will not be able to drive these speakers since the power rating is double as that of the 9.4

[gearhead]

the 9.5's are actually quite easy to drive. even if you begin with an entry level amp it is capable of providing a satisfying performance. it will actually sound better and better though as you upgrade or change your amp to more powerful ones.

again, we're talking here of a certain price point. there might be better sounding speakers but for more cash outlay.

[audiojunkie]

When I demoed my 9.5 to a friend who was interested to buy, I used only AMC integ. amp with 30w power and 30 amp rating. at about 10 o'clock vol. level it thumped like it's getting 200w.. at the end of the session it was Sold...

[squatt3r]

let's say I have 9.6, 9.cm and 9.1 for a 5.1 channel set-up how much power does my AVR (or 5 channel amp) need to have in order to properly drive them?

[stipen22]

let's say I have 9.6, 9.cm and 9.1 for a 5.1 channel set-up how much power does my AVR (or 5 channel amp) need to have in order to properly drive them?

a mid-level AVR will make them perform rather than just drive. but if you want more than just perform hooked the mid-level AVR with a power amp. This is what I've learned here from the more experience member. 

[squatt3r]

audio would be coming from my htpc. mid level AVR vs Bada 5 channel amp?

[stipen22]

audio would be coming from my htpc. mid level AVR vs Bada 5 channel amp?

a Bada power amp hooked to a mid level AVR would be great. I'm sure the wharf set would be delighted with this setup. 

[squatt3r]

budget permits either the bada amp or a mid level AVR. which to choose?

[MAtZTER]

For me, if budget permits, get the mid level AVR (30+k class) first. AND still get a power amp later on.

The performance of the dedicated power amp will still (hands down) excel vs. any mid level receiver.

Taken from the reviewer Brian Florian of Secrets of Home Theater & Hi Fidelity while reviewing the new Onkyo 805:

In all common amplifier topologies, low-impedance loads have the inherent consequence of increased heat as the greater current (as opposed to voltage) is delivered.  Make no mistake: no matter how "good" a receiver is (no matter how much it costs), it cannot compete with separate power amplifiers for this reason.  There is simply too much crammed into one box.  Elaborate means of dissipating heat are possible, but they are expensive to the point of making the pursuit futile (i.e., you might as well just go the way of separates).

But the Mid level receiver's  decoder (DSP) is usually much better than the entry level ones w/ pre outs. So with these 2 combined, you have the performance of a 100+k receiver (w/o the bells & whistles).

[demented_]

I have an ancient Sakura AV-388 amplifier. Will the Wharfedale 9.1 Bookshelf speakers + Wharfedale center + Wharfedale rear speakers work just fine? Baka next time na kasi ako magpalit ng amp. Wala pang budget. 

[theblue]

I have an ancient Sakura AV-388 amplifier. Will the Wharfedale 9.1 Bookshelf speakers + Wharfedale center + Wharfedale rear speakers work just fine? Baka next time na kasi ako magpalit ng amp. Wala pang budget. 

I can't seem to get any specs in Internet about your Sakura AV-388. Care to give some numbers?

[squatt3r]

locally made ba yung Sakura?