Topic: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series

[sidewinder]

Do not remove gold plate.

sir i mean, where do i connect it, in HF or LF? thanks

[natosan]

it's HUGE!!!! Drawfs the 9.1s in appreciation which is one of my concerns as well. great improvement on the sound over 9cs though..

[blackie]

sir i mean, where do i connect it, in HF or LF? thanks

Will not matter.  The gold plate serves as the connector so that both your LF and HF will work.  Take it out then you miss out on one of the frequencies.

[sidewinder]

^^^ thanks sir for the quick reply

[blackie]

Cheers! 

Good luck on the setup

[blackie]

it's HUGE!!!! Drawfs the 9.1s in appreciation which is one of my concerns as well. great improvement on the sound over 9cs though..

Have 9.6's for the front so I think they'll be a pretty good match.  Have not had the chance to audition the CM yet though......Hope to be able to do so soon   Baka we can get a discount if group buy (don't know if two buyers is counted as a group buy.hehe)?

[barrister]

Have 9.6's for the front so I think they'll be a pretty good match.  Have not had the chance to audition the CM yet though......Hope to be able to do so soon  

Ayos na ayos ang CM sa 9.6 sir.  Wharfedale recommends the match:

LARGE SYSTEM – 5.1

Front – 2 x Diamond 9.6
Rear – 2 x Diamond 9.DFS
Centre – 1 x Diamond 9.CM
Subwoofer – SW250

From Diamond 9 brochure (see page 13): http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/brochure_3.pdf

[milken]

for me, the center speaker is the most important in a home theater because all dialogue come from that speaker.  it's the speaker that will be used most especially if you like to watch drama and comedy.  besides, ang laki ng front mo 9.6 baka malunod yung sounds galing sa center mo.  hehe.   get the biggest center speaker of wharfe for better match. 

[mercury724]

way back when, I was choosing between the 9.1 and 9.2, i chose the 9.2 kasi gusto ko abot sa kitchen yung sound  however, when connected sa marantz AVR at home, the speakers did okay on jazz and vocals but not on rock, symphonics, hip-hop/rnb. plus, medyo muddy ang bass. pero syempre, malaking factor din ang room acoustics and related gears mo, so my impressions are still applicable only to my setting. like most gurus say, auditioning is the key (much better if you can test in your house with your gear  ). HTH   

salamat sir for the fyi. will be auditioning first the 9.1 and 9.2.

That's right, 9.2 is a bit murky in bass parformance due to bigger bass driver that is not timbre-matched well with high-mid speakers drivers. 9.1 has better tonal balance divers. 9.1 sings well in music and video.

sir vic, hindi ba mas maliit yung 9.1 how would the 9.1 sound at higher volume? and how about the 9sr, would this be enough for a 25 to 30 sq. meter room along with the 9.1?

[torque]

this may sound too dumb a question but i'll ask it anyway, where do i connect my standard wires in my 9.1? i'm not gonna use the "bi-wire" method, just a simple connection.... it has HF + - and LF +-... thanks in advance

sidewinder,

Bro, I would recommend that you replace the "gold plates" with 16 or 18 gauge wires. I'm using 9.1 paired with onkyo tx-sr502. When I replaced the gold plates the highs did improved, mas dinig na ang kalising. Unexpectedly, I also heard improvements on the low freq. Mas bumilog ang bass, unlike before na a bit muddy ang sound. Try to experiment lang replace the gold plates, bi-wire, bi-amp etc...

[natosan]

salamat sir for the fyi. will be auditioning first the 9.1 and 9.2.
sir vic, hindi ba mas maliit yung 9.1 how would the 9.1 sound at higher volume? and how about the 9sr, would this be enough for a 25 to 30 sq. meter room along with the 9.1?

  at 25 to 30sqm, u should go for 9.6. Masyado maliit ang 9.1. My room is abt 12x 16ft and medyo tama lang ang 9.1. Now thinking of auditioning 9.5 pa nga.   

[jetstar]

Wharfedale @ CES 2008 With 9.1 75th Anniversary Edition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOC_9NzWgmE

[John E.]

Contemplating on getting the Cm too.  It's one big speaker   Might have challenges space wise. 

im currently using a 9CM. space wise it fits perfectly on my rack and aesthetically it looks great!

[mercury724]

  at 25 to 30sqm, u should go for 9.6. Masyado maliit ang 9.1. My room is abt 12x 16ft and medyo tama lang ang 9.1. Now thinking of auditioning 9.5 pa nga.   

pero mukhang masyadong malaki na yung mga 9.4,9.5,9.6 my main problem is not much space to put the FS.

[E-reply]

sir vic, hindi ba mas maliit yung 9.1 how would the 9.1 sound at higher volume? and how about the 9sr, would this be enough for a 25 to 30 sq. meter room along with the 9.1?

Before you decide which speaker is best for the room, you need to determine 2 things: 1. How big is the throwing distance of the speakers you are considering to buy. 2. What is your listening preference for the speakers--for music and movie or purely for movie?

You have a big room of 30sq meters. Is this a dedicated home-theater room where speakers should be big enough to fill up the room? If this is so, then you have no other option but to get a bigger set-up speakers like 9.6 front, 9cm center, a pair 9DFS (side or rear) surround, an option (if you are considering 7.1 set-up) of another pair 9DFS for rear-surround, and a powered sub of 12 to 15".

With the above set-up, a pair of front floorstanding speakers becomes fitting for both movie and music. It can excel music because when the receiver is switch to either stereo or pure audio mode--when subwoofer and other surround speakers were cut-off--, the 9.6 becomes a dedicated pair of stereo speaker system that can handle the whole spectrum of musical frequency.

If, however, you have a big room, but your home-theater listening area is in one corner, you may opt for a smaller set-up: a pair of front bookshelf either 9.2 or 9.1, 9cs center, 9dfs surround, and a powered sub of either 8 or 10". Unless your preference is to listen to whole spectrum of music, you don't need a floorstanding to fill in your small corner of movie watching.

So you see, the decision of buying the right speakers should be based on your requirement and purpose. Added to this is your taste. If your taste is just as good as mine, you will find 9.1 to sound better than 9.2. 9.1 sounds more detail and transparent; it sounds also richer and warm. If you are into music and movie, you may want 9.1 to occupy your small space. 9.2 will be your last option for movie watching at a bigger space irregardless of better sound quality.

By the way, the 9SR is applicable for surround, though it can also be used as 5 units small satellite home-theater set-up. The 9SR is for home-theater use, not exciting for music.

[blackie]

im currently using a 9CM. space wise it fits perfectly on my rack and aesthetically it looks great!

Nice rack you have ther John E.  That's exactly my problem.  I do not have one.  The center speaker I have now sits in front of the tv.  Just about enough so that I see the whole screen

[John E.]

check-out pinoy bazaar ctlim76/mr.wang (christian) is selling his sabre luna at 2.5k http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/a-v-bazaar-f4/sabre-a-v-rack-cheap-t1218.htm this retails at 4.5k sulit na sulit na and sakto sa 9cm 

[blackie]

Thanks for the help JohnE.  Appreciate it!

Cheers,

Black

[natosan]

pero mukhang masyadong malaki na yung mga 9.4,9.5,9.6 my main problem is not much space to put the FS.

where do you intend to place your bookshelf speakers? i was planning to buy speakers stands but then i realized that it will occupy the same amount of space as FS so I plan to audition FS to see if my room is big enough without making the FS sound boomy.

[mercury724]

where do you intend to place your bookshelf speakers? i was planning to buy speakers stands but then i realized that it will occupy the same amount of space as FS so I plan to audition FS to see if my room is big enough without making the FS sound boomy.

be putting it in my masterbedroom, sabagay i'm planning to use a speaker stand rin. hmm...you have a good point natosan, same space rin naman ang ma-gagamit kung FS except if i wall mount it. well, i guess might as well audition the fs.

[natosan]

be putting it in my masterbedroom, sabagay i'm planning to use a speaker stand rin. hmm...you have a good point natosan, same space rin naman ang ma-gagamit kung FS except if i wall mount it. well, i guess might as well audition the fs.

my set-up is also in our bedroom  . hirap mag wall mount ng front speakers. 1) holes in the wall 2) no flexibility sa speaker positioning; if you get it wrong = more holes in the wall. 

i'll be replacing my avr first and see if i'm satisfied my the full potential of the 9.1. otherwise, i'm upgrading to 9.5.

[dyerds]

my set-up is also in our bedroom  . hirap mag wall mount ng front speakers. 1) holes in the wall 2) no flexibility sa speaker positioning; if you get it wrong = more holes in the wall. 

Hahaha! Totoo yan! Kahit yung karpintero namin nahirapan ikabit yung DFS eh.   

[mercury724]

my set-up is also in our bedroom  . hirap mag wall mount ng front speakers. 1) holes in the wall 2) no flexibility sa speaker positioning; if you get it wrong = more holes in the wall. 

i'll be replacing my avr first and see if i'm satisfied my the full potential of the 9.1. otherwise, i'm upgrading to 9.5.

medyo malayo ang price ng 9.4 & 9.5, ok rin ba ang 9.4? well, sa surrounds i cant decide rin dfs? or 9.1? or 9sr? would'nt want holes all over the wall.

[blackie]

9.1 na

[natosan]

medyo malayo ang price ng 9.4 & 9.5, ok rin ba ang 9.4? well, sa surrounds i cant decide rin dfs? or 9.1? or 9sr? would'nt want holes all over the wall.

i auditioned the 9.4 before, medyo boomy. or baka dahil sa room acoustics, kaya ganun. sa surrounds , i'm using dfs. comparing against my onkyo fixed surround, mas gusto ko talaga ang dipole (dfs). konti lang price diff vs sr. kaya lang wall mount talaga. no experience using 9.1 as surrounds since i don't have the space. i heard you don't need the low frequencies that much for your surrounds.

[sidewinder]

guys need your expert advise, is it ok to pair a a WH2 center sa 9.1 fronts ko? thanks in advance

[natosan]

i auditioned the 9.4 before, medyo boomy. or baka dahil sa room acoustics, kaya ganun. sa surrounds , i'm using dfs. comparing against my onkyo fixed surround, mas gusto ko talaga ang dipole (dfs). konti lang price diff vs sr. kaya lang wall mount talaga. no experience using 9.1 as surrounds since i don't have the space. i heard you don't need the low frequencies that much for your surrounds.

When i auditioned 9.4, found it boomy too. Malayo na sa walls yun, boomy pa rin. Wanted to auditioned 9.5 but decide to save up the money to invest into a good sub tipo velo cht-10. Can vouch for the dfs as well. Malaki nga lang. Bigger than the 9.1.

[barrister]

guys need your expert advise, is it ok to pair a a WH2 center sa 9.1 fronts ko? thanks in advance

No. 

If you already have a 9.1 pair, then it would be better to get a 9.CS for your center speaker.

It's advisable to get a center speaker from the same model and series to make sure that the set is voice-matched as closely as possible for sound field consistency. 

Otherwise, when the sound pans from left to right, the sound will change considerably as it moves from from left to center to right channel.

[lrdcly]

guys, help naman.. la kasi ko time mag audition.

im planning to buy wharfe 9.5, 9cm and 9sr. ok ba to if paired with denon 1508?
il use it for movies and gaming and ill be placing it in my room (4x5m)
tia!

[E-reply]

guys, help naman.. la kasi ko time mag audition.

im planning to buy wharfe 9.5, 9cm and 9sr. ok ba to if paired with denon 1508?
il use it for movies and gaming and ill be placing it in my room (4x5m)
tia!

Denon AVR1508 is an entry level that complement well with Wharfedale. Wharfedale 9.5, 9cm and 9sr is just right, but if you want a more immerse surround, you may wish to avail dipole 9DFS. Dipole speakers take advantage of reflected sound to create a wider soundfield, and they provide greater speaker placement flexibility.

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