Topic: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series

[avshop]

Sir ganu po kalaki ang listening area nung gamit nyo si combination B? 

@Sir JohnE.
hmmm kaya na din ba ng Yamaha 663 para sa combination B.? (sorry po noob plang me, first HT setup ko to)

and mga bossings, plan ko po kc mag 9.1,CM,SR for the mean time, then switch ako to 7.1 dagdag lng ako ng 9.5, pepede ko bang gamitin 9.1 as for surrounds? or may mas maganda kaung suggested na upgrade path?. . .
TIA

you can use the 9.1 for surrounds in a 7.1 set up.  i think your plan is ok na.  

[milken]

and mga bossings, plan ko po kc mag 9.1,CM,SR for the mean time, then switch ako to 7.1 dagdag lng ako ng 9.5, pepede ko bang gamitin 9.1 as for surrounds? or may mas maganda kaung suggested na upgrade path?. . .
TIA

ano kaya kung 2 pairs of 9.1 then 9cm as center?  the reason why mas recommended ang 9sr is mas madali syang iwall-mount bec of its size.  but the trend now is to put surround speakers on stands kaya pwede 2 pairs 9.1 para mas balance sila in case they'll be used as surround speakers someday.  http://www.dolby.com/consumer/home_entertainment/roomlayout2.html  no doubt 9.1 sounds better than 9sr as front having won several awards..so no reason why it shouldn't sound good also when used as surrounds.

on the other hand, i'm not so sure how 9.1 as fronts will match with 9cm as center in the meantime na wala pa yng 9.5 nyo... teka, how big is your room??  if I have a small to mid size room, I'll consider 3 pairs of 9.1 for 6.1 channel na and use the savings to buy the best subwoofer I can afford. the cost of a pair of 9.1 is near the cost of one 9cm but you get additional speaker and are assured that your center 9.1 sonically matches your 9.1 fronts (obviously kasi identical sila). but that's just me. hehe 

[dhoZe]

@Sir avshop
Thnx sir, bisita ko shop mo soon para maaudition ung ganung setup and para makapag desisyon na dn me, almost mag 2 months na dn akong nag scout ng first set ko  di ka po talga nagcarry ng yamaha 663? trip ko talga un. . . 

Thnx din sir milken for your insights and suggestions 
ung listening area ko po pala is 15sqm

anu pong advantage ng 9DFS sa 9SR? which is better pag 9.1 ang kateam-up nya for surrounds?
TIA

[barrister]

Alternatively, and since I have tiled floors, can I buy replacement 'rubber' type pods instead of metal spikes anywhere?

I use 3M Bumpon on my Wharfedale Diamond 9.5.

3M Bumpon is available in any hardware store at the malls.

[milken]

anu pong advantage ng 9DFS sa 9SR? which is better pag 9.1 ang kateam-up nya for surrounds?
TIA

9DFS are dipole speakers while 9sr and 9.1 are direct-firing bookshelves.  There has been lots of debate between them, some prefer dipoles, some prefer direct firing monopoles....some bipoles, tripoles!  You may want to read this AVS thread between B&W DS3 (switchable dipole-monopole) vs. 685 (monopole): http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=898287

It depends on several factors, whether you have walls to hang the 9DFS, whether you have the room for 7.1 (there must be enough space behind the listening area for rear speakers and sides for side surrounds), budget, listening preference, whether you're a THX fan (dipoles a must ---see THX recommended speaker layout at their website), etc.  I prefer bookshelves as surrounds but some PDVD members prefer dipoles.  Only you can decide which one suits you best. Good luck! 

[dhoZe]

Thanks for that sir milken 

[avshop]

9DFS are dipole speakers while 9sr and 9.1 are direct-firing bookshelves.  There has been lots of debate between them, some prefer dipoles, some prefer direct firing monopoles....some bipoles, tripoles!  You may want to read this AVS thread between B&W DS3 (switchable dipole-monopole) vs. 685 (monopole): http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=898287

It depends on several factors, whether you have walls to hang the 9DFS, whether you have the room for 7.1 (there must be enough space behind the listening area for rear speakers and sides for side surrounds), budget, listening preference, whether you're a THX fan (dipoles a must ---see THX recommended speaker layout at their website), etc.  I prefer bookshelves as surrounds but some PDVD members prefer dipoles.  Only you can decide which one suits you best. Good luck! 

i also prefer bookshelf speakers for surrounds.  

[lakambini]

Whraf owners

How long does it take to break-in a Wharf speaker?

Tnx

[magnum5]

..tsaka paano i-break-in ang wharfedale 9.5 ?

[lmerb]

I'm currently using 8.1 and I'm planning to upgrade will the 9.1 worth it?

[magnum5]

...just got my 9.5's from a store in banawe...we don't have a benefit of a wharf audition in this part of the country, what we can audition here are MS Carnival, Jamo and Pioneers Speakers in an of SM branch..i just  relied  much from this forum in deciding which speaker to buy..but lo and behold nung naka set-up na ang 9.5' with an onkyo 606...ika nga, "lufet"..terrific...kailangan pa bang i-break-in yan ( kailangan pa bang i-memorize yan  )
...but i still have my MS Carnival 6 with Sony STR-DG520..still good...implied sa manual on how to break-in the speaker,like off phase one line then set-up face to face, which is complied, and impressed with the results..with the 9.5's i'm having apprehensions on the necessisity of a "forced run-in ", most in this forum would suggest  to let it run-in by itself...
...btw, sulit ang 5k sa freight charges, next day delivery, door to door...thanks to all

[gearhead000]

glad you liked your 9.5. for movie watching duties these are one slamming speakers. i can use it as Large and supplement the low low end by setting my crossover to 60hz and the sub to L+R/LFE. for music, there's a lot of better speakers... but for the price these are hard to beat.

[magnum5]

thanks brow

[macdon]

Wharfedale Tweaks

While we were contemplating of changing my dad's aging wharfedale modus speakers, I thought that maybe it could still be resurrected thru the help of our very own DIY Master - Anthony.

Anthony changed the stock tweeters to Velodyne tweeters (silk tweeters with more extension), built new crossovers & changed the rubber surrounds of the mid-woofers. When we got the speakers back, I was so surprised with how those modus sounded - parang B&Ws na ah
The sound was more open than the dark sounding wharfedales that I'm familiar with and the midwoofer had more body into it with more pronounced tight bass. It was certainly 2-3x better than the old Wharfedales

Napaisip tuloy ako kumuha ng 9.1 just to see what Anthony's magic can do to it Talagang genius sa speakers yung tao  The 2.5k we paid to fix & tweak both speakers was nothing compared to the new sound we heard coming out of 'em - panalo talaga!

So if you're planning to upgrade your Wharfedales to a different brand - maybe you would like to consider Anthony's tweaking services He's done hundreds of Wharfedale tweaks!

Sorry - phone cam lang:

[Mutly]

Hi macdon! Nice work on having you're Wharfedales resurrected! Do they really sound that much better than before? Completely new crossover and maybe wiring is it? Sorry, new in this forum and been looking around kasi for anyone who has done tweaks on their 9s and how they sound eh and this is the closest thing so far. 

I have 2 pairs of Diamond 9s that are in great condition and sound good, but I'm still very interested to see how much better they can get by maybe tweaking a pair. Do you think it's a good idea? 

How do i get in touch with Anthony if ever? 

[macdon]

Hi macdon! Nice work on having you're Wharfedales resurrected! Do they really sound that much better than before? Completely new crossover and maybe wiring is it? Sorry, new in this forum and been looking around kasi for anyone who has done tweaks on their 9s and how they sound eh and this is the closest thing so far. 

I have 2 pairs of Diamond 9s that are in great condition and sound good, but I'm still very interested to see how much better they can get by maybe tweaking a pair. Do you think it's a good idea? 

How do i get in touch with Anthony if ever? 

Even before i even knew Anthony - I've heard some members here had their Wharfes tweaked which they're still using till now.
I believe the weakest part of  Wharfedale is within their tweeters - it lacks a bit of extension, which is probably why they sound dark/warm for my taste.

Anthony replaces the stock Wharfe tweeters with Velodyne  silk tweeters and silk tweeters are the most natural sounding tweeters around. Velo tweeters even have a better magnet material than the stock ferrite magnet that the Wharfe uses. The Velo tweets definitely opens up the capabilities of the Wharfedales.

Now, since the Velo tweets have a higher extension, the stock crossover would have to be modified to maximize this extension properly. Anthony will replace some parts of the xover.
I just finished setting up my Dad's wharfes and he himself was amazed on the big change from before. He was even surprised how come the sound is coming from the tv & not the speakers themselves - thats those Velo tweets working for ya

Oh yeah - anthony makes speakers himself & has a long thread here in pdvd. He can make you a bookshelf for only 10k & it can rival any branded speakers in the market costing 2-3x

Anthony - 0921 4697091

Landline - 3577990

Anthony is located in lower Bicutan, Taguig.

[ProtegeManiac]

I'm currently using 8.1 and I'm planning to upgrade will the 9.1 worth it?

get a used Pacific or Evo series instead

[Mutly]

Even before i even knew Anthony - I've heard some members here had their Wharfes tweaked which they're still using till now.
I believe the weakest part of  Wharfedale is within their tweeters - it lacks a bit of extension, which is probably why they sound dark/warm for my taste.

Anthony replaces the stock Wharfe tweeters with Velodyne  silk tweeters and silk tweeters are the most natural sounding tweeters around. Velo tweeters even have a better magnet material than the stock ferrite magnet that the Wharfe uses. The Velo tweets definitely opens up the capabilities of the Wharfedales.

Now, since the Velo tweets have a higher extension, the stock crossover would have to be modified to maximize this extension properly. Anthony will replace some parts of the xover.
I just finished setting up my Dad's wharfes and he himself was amazed on the big change from before. He was even surprised how come the sound is coming from the tv & not the speakers themselves - thats those Velo tweets working for ya

Oh yeah - anthony makes speakers himself & has a long thread here in pdvd. He can make you a bookshelf for only 10k & it can rival any branded speakers in the market costing 2-3x

Anthony - 0921 4697091

Landline - 3577990

Anthony is located in lower Bicutan, Taguig.

Very useful information for me... thank you so much! 

Yes, i feel they lack a bit of extension off the top end also. I see, so i guess the Wharf tweeters are at their full potential already so it needs to be replaced if i want more upper extension. I still definitely do want a silk tweeter for them though. 

Interesting that he makes his own speakers... will check that out for sure.

Thanks again macdon for the info! Will try contacting him as soon as i can decide what I'm going to do with these speakers. 

Cheers! 

[avshop]

selling a brand new wharf 9.5 and 9cs package for only 16.5k. black ash finish.

[mercury724]

still a newbie, just want to share.. nababasa ko lang sa mga threads about speakers being bi-amped and got curious. i have a wharfedale 9.4 and i'm happy with the performance, but yesterday i wanted to try bi-amping my 9.4 to see if could squeeze more sound quality from it and since my avr is capable of bi-amp so i decided to try it, just tonight i went on installing the extra wires to the speakers and connect it to my amp, and after setting the avr to bi-amp, i played the blueman group "the complex" DVD and started playing the music video... i was totally surprised  mas lalong gumanda yun tunog, the highs are more distinct than before, sound came out crisp and more detailed.

[jpeg]

Hi macdon! Nice work on having you're Wharfedales resurrected! Do they really sound that much better than before? Completely new crossover and maybe wiring is it? Sorry, new in this forum and been looking around kasi for anyone who has done tweaks on their 9s and how they sound eh and this is the closest thing so far. 

I have 2 pairs of Diamond 9s that are in great condition and sound good, but I'm still very interested to see how much better they can get by maybe tweaking a pair. Do you think it's a good idea? 

How do i get in touch with Anthony if ever? 

Sir,

you might want to consider buying another speaker instead.


PS. benta mo nalang sa akin ng mura diamond 9 mo.



By the way, are the Walnut finish 9.1s available here already?

Jason

[Mutly]

Hehe! I did consider that actually then i re-considered. 

Think i will keep them for a bit more but if ever i do sell them, i will let you know jpeg.  Thanks for the offer. 

[John E.]

Wharfedale Tweaks

While we were contemplating of changing my dad's aging wharfedale modus speakers, I thought that maybe it could still be resurrected thru the help of our very own DIY Master - Anthony.

Anthony changed the stock tweeters to Velodyne tweeters (silk tweeters with more extension), built new crossovers & changed the rubber surrounds of the mid-woofers. When we got the speakers back, I was so surprised with how those modus sounded - parang B&Ws na ah
The sound was more open than the dark sounding wharfedales that I'm familiar with and the midwoofer had more body into it with more pronounced tight bass. It was certainly 2-3x better than the old Wharfedales

Napaisip tuloy ako kumuha ng 9.1 just to see what Anthony's magic can do to it Talagang genius sa speakers yung tao  The 2.5k we paid to fix & tweak both speakers was nothing compared to the new sound we heard coming out of 'em - panalo talaga!

So if you're planning to upgrade your Wharfedales to a different brand - maybe you would like to consider Anthony's tweaking services He's done hundreds of Wharfedale tweaks!

Sorry - phone cam lang:

nice  i had my pi-10 also tweaked by anthony last year big improvement din sayang lang di ko pa nasabay yung tweeters nun di ko rin mabitawan yung pi-10 ko since among the wharfe speakers that i had eto lang yung di ko mapakawalan.



cam phone lang din pala gamit ko nung kinunan ko yan

[John E.]

...currently using this pala for audio  never fails to brighten-up my day!

if i get spare cash im also contemplating on trying the m-caps for these babies.

[gob]

nice  i had my pi-10 also tweaked by anthony last year big improvement din sayang lang di ko pa nasabay yung tweeters nun di ko rin mabitawan yung pi-10 ko since among the wharfe speakers that i had eto lang yung di ko mapakawalan.



cam phone lang din pala gamit ko nung kinunan ko yan

nice wharfs you got there =)

yun diamond 9.1 ko mi dent na sides & corner ng baffle, kaya paba maremedyohan???

[macdon]

nice  i had my pi-10 also tweaked by anthony last year big improvement din sayang lang di ko pa nasabay yung tweeters nun di ko rin mabitawan yung pi-10 ko since among the wharfe speakers that i had eto lang yung di ko mapakawalan.



cam phone lang din pala gamit ko nung kinunan ko yan

Brader john - yes sir, I remember you posting that in PB as well. Ang ganda talaga ng outcome ng speakers mo in piano black finish Its great to know you're extending the mileage on those speakers - congrats!

[macdon]

nice wharfs you got there =)

yun diamond 9.1 ko mi dent na sides & corner ng baffle, kaya paba maremedyohan???

Depende po yan on how deep yung dents. I got my brother's old AR M2 na talagang pumuputok na yung kahoy and the vinyl is lifting off na. I had Anthony removed the vinyl, fixed the wood & re-vinyl a new one. While at it, I had him replaced the stock tweeters with Velodyne tweets, modified the xover & even replaced the grille cloth with a new one.



Is the cabinets of the 9series Wharfes in natural wood ba or vinyl covering lang? Anthony currently uses an imported vinyl that has better quality than the locally bought vinyls - unfortunately, he has it only black.
Mahirap din mag match ng vinyls - so if you have one that needs a new vinyl - dapat both speakers na ang pabalot nyo. Ok lang cguro kung for audio, pero kung for HT medyo marami ang pababalot mo

[John E.]

nice wharfs you got there =)

yun diamond 9.1 ko mi dent na sides & corner ng baffle, kaya paba maremedyohan???

kaya siguro yan palit ng balot (vinyl) and masilya try to contact anthony or doc mel

[jpeg]

If pamasilya, I suggest you ask Anthony for piano finish na.

Very good workmanship!

Highly recommended.

Jason

[pogzz505]

i'm planning to buy this combi coz it will cost me only 14.5k..tried this at s n s and i liked it..
Wharf diamond9.1..
9cs..
9dfs..

Kung palitan ko ng floor standing speaker ang front..what pwde niyo recommend..