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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #810 on: Apr 12, 2014 at 04:45 PM »
thanks for the clarification.

Di pa yata "serious" :) It's something I've been meaning to buy the past few years, just to try it, but I've never gotten  around to doing so. So I just want to see if vinyl is for me, or if pang CD/digital talaga ako :)

I'll think it over first, if i should just buy an entry level Pro-Ject or Rega, or scour the MP for the 1200 or other cheaper turntables, since my object is just to try this out. (though this is going to be a bit of an expensive try out, since I'll have to get at the very least, a phono stage, and likely, a stereo amp hahaha).




sir ito po magandang TT's... >:D ^-^
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #811 on: Apr 14, 2014 at 02:52 PM »
mga sir
may nakapag try na ba na bumili dito sa sulit seller na to:

http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/37411371/Cartridge+and+Stylus?referralKeywords=headshell&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-18,18#advertisementDetails

ang mura kasi ng m44-7-h combo nya 3800 lang. papa legit check sana ako sa inyo mga sir
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #812 on: Apr 14, 2014 at 10:29 PM »
mga sir
may nakapag try na ba na bumili dito sa sulit seller na to:

http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/37411371/Cartridge+and+Stylus?referralKeywords=headshell&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-18,18#advertisementDetails

ang mura kasi ng m44-7-h combo nya 3800 lang. papa legit check sana ako sa inyo mga sir

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #813 on: Apr 15, 2014 at 10:16 PM »
Hello, newbie here. I'm looking for a vinyl record player. Preferable around 2k more or less? Would any of you know a place that sells? I know someone who managed to snag a 2nd hand vinyl record player from Japan at around 2.5k and she only had to replace the needle and buy an amp.

 I don't have any experience with this and I'd really appreciate the help of experts such as you guys. Thanks! :)

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #814 on: Apr 15, 2014 at 11:15 PM »
mga sir
may nakapag try na ba na bumili dito sa sulit seller na to:

http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/37411371/Cartridge+and+Stylus?referralKeywords=headshell&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-18,18#advertisementDetails

ang mura kasi ng m44-7-h combo nya 3800 lang. papa legit check sana ako sa inyo mga sir

iirc p3800 was the price of the m447h sa Audiophile around 2-3 years ago

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #815 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 01:23 PM »
thanks for the clarification.

Di pa yata "serious" :) It's something I've been meaning to buy the past few years, just to try it, but I've never gotten  around to doing so. So I just want to see if vinyl is for me, or if pang CD/digital talaga ako :)

I'll think it over first, if i should just buy an entry level Pro-Ject or Rega, or scour the MP for the 1200 or other cheaper turntables, since my object is just to try this out. (though this is going to be a bit of an expensive try out, since I'll have to get at the very least, a phono stage, and likely, a stereo amp hahaha).


just in case mam, you are going to dip into it for sure.....use an mc cart, it myt be 3x pricier than a reg mm cart but the difference is justified. given a stereo int amp, mm/mc phono stage, and a decent TT with an mc cart....it will slam your current audio/video receiver & cdp combo to the ground. not kidding:)
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #816 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 01:39 PM »
just in case mam, you are going to dip into it for sure.....use an mc cart, it myt be 3x pricier than a reg mm cart but the difference is justified. given a stereo int amp, mm/mc phono stage, and a decent TT with an mc cart....it will slam your current audio/video receiver & cdp combo to the ground. not kidding:)

chief magkano naman MC na maganda at ano brand... ^-^

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #817 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 01:45 PM »
chief magkano naman MC na maganda at ano brand... ^-^

manong daming choices....benz micro gold, ortofon salsa, denon dl103r. :):) 15k below ang pricing nyan. ako Ang daily use ko are ortofon mc10 super ska ortofon salsa. yung shelter 201 mm ko, tinabi ko muna.
kay noli/TAS, daming choice ng mc cart. call lang kay boss noli pag inquire. bait yun.:)
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #818 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 01:47 PM »
mahal pala... ala ba mura lang... ^-^

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #819 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 01:57 PM »
mahal pala... ala ba mura lang... ^-^

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #820 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 01:59 PM »
m447g:)

ipon mode muna... dl103 ok ba yun... >:D

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #821 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 02:00 PM »
ipon mode muna... dl103 ok ba yun... >:D
ok boss. si doc endrick naka dl103 pero tweaked by david wok.
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #822 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 02:47 PM »
Go na sa MC cart. Worth it if you're into analog.  ;D >:D
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #823 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 02:51 PM »
For a begginers turntable, mas ok ba Rp1 + Cambridge Phono pre, then eventualy upgrade to elys 2 cart..

Or deretso na sa Rp3 + Cambridge Phono pre.


Contemplating on turning to the dark side, cd generation na kasi ako, I wanna try lang pure analog :)

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #824 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 03:26 PM »
For a begginers turntable, mas ok ba Rp1 + Cambridge Phono pre, then eventualy upgrade to elys 2 cart..

Or deretso na sa Rp3 + Cambridge Phono pre.


Contemplating on turning to the dark side, cd generation na kasi ako, I wanna try lang pure analog :)

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If you're really serious into analog, then RP3. If trying pa lang, RP1 is a good choice. Do you have the Cambridge phono pre already?
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #825 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 03:31 PM »
manong daming choices....benz micro gold, ortofon salsa, denon dl103r. :):) 15k below ang pricing nyan. ako Ang daily use ko are ortofon mc10 super ska ortofon salsa. yung shelter 201 mm ko, tinabi ko muna.
kay noli/TAS, daming choice ng mc cart. call lang kay boss noli pag inquire. bait yun.:)

Nangungulam si Bos Dodie  >:D Ako MC din ( Murang Cartridge)  O0

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #826 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 03:40 PM »
You'll never go wrong with a Denon DL-103 or 103R...
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #827 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 04:35 PM »
If you're really serious into analog, then RP3. If trying pa lang, RP1 is a good choice. Do you have the Cambridge phono pre already?

No sir, pero yung ganung price range lang, I think 6500 ata yun, Rega I think ganun din, but TROD's suggestion was the cambridge.

Plaka newbie here :)
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #828 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 07:08 PM »
^looking into going that route din :)! Repa RP1 or RP3 + Rega phono amp. Then if I find that I like vinyl, buy a stereo amp + amp switcher (kasi wala akong planong bumili ng speakers just for audio).

Questions though:

1. Don't the turntables already come with a cart - whether MM or MC? So bale, I immediately replace whatever comes with the turntable?
2. Also, may violent objections ba kayo sa automatic turntables? I was reading up in some websites and noted that some folks prefer manual and couldn't hide their disdain for automatic variants. Hahaha.
3. Between a Technics 1200 or the Rega RP1 or entry level Pro Ject, mas maganda ba yung 1200? Di kasi ako masyadong mahilig sa mukhang luma or sa talagang luma. Mas gusto ko modern/minimalist look. Just a preference :)



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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #829 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 07:16 PM »
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #830 on: Apr 17, 2014 at 01:25 AM »
^looking into going that route din :)! Repa RP1 or RP3 + Rega phono amp. Then if I find that I like vinyl, buy a stereo amp + amp switcher (kasi wala akong planong bumili ng speakers just for audio).

Questions though:

1. Don't the turntables already come with a cart - whether MM or MC? So bale, I immediately replace whatever comes with the turntable?
2. Also, may violent objections ba kayo sa automatic turntables? I was reading up in some websites and noted that some folks prefer manual and couldn't hide their disdain for automatic variants. Hahaha.
3. Between a Technics 1200 or the Rega RP1 or entry level Pro Ject, mas maganda ba yung 1200? Di kasi ako masyadong mahilig sa mukhang luma or sa talagang luma. Mas gusto ko modern/minimalist look. Just a preference :)


1.kalimitan po walang kasamang cart yung mga bnew TT.  btw there are 2 types of mc cart, the HOMC and LOMC. yung high output walang problema sa phono stage kse the loading can be the same of an MM cart na 47ohm, but generally if youll be getting a decent mm/mc phono stage, may cart loading na yun for low output. just a flick of a switch and its good to go.

2. automatic TT are good, wala lang upgrade path. opinyon lang po. :D ska complicated yung operation ng tonearm. may tendency na pangalingan ng vibration.
3. kung rp1 lang at project mam, 1200 na ako. lyt platter kse yung project at pr1. but if itis rp3....ill get the rp3. the thing that i like with direct drive tt like the 1200, eh reduce ang wow and flutter unlike sa mga belt drive tt.

pero ako po ang preference ko ay dampened idler drive TT on a heavy DIY plinth with proper isolation to reduce yung rumble...... :)
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Turntable Part 2
« Reply #831 on: Apr 17, 2014 at 06:34 AM »
Boss dodie, ano ang wow at flutter?
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #832 on: Apr 17, 2014 at 07:29 AM »
Boss dodie, ano ang wow at flutter?

Brader mykel yun sa iyo (TT) sobra na yun wow!!! ;D ;D. Belt type yun sa iyo  di ba? :D :D
Ibig sabihin yun ibang direct drive kasi nasa center yun motor once yun cartridge lumalapit na sa center motor o kaya yun track song ng groove eh papalapit na sa dulo nag aaway na yun magnet ng turntable motor at yun moving magnet/coil ng cartridge kaya less na yun wow :D :D.

Sabi ni AJ Van Den Hul mas maganda daw yun silk string as a replacement of rubber belt  :D ;)
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #833 on: Apr 17, 2014 at 09:53 AM »
Boss dodie, ano ang wow at flutter?
yung tamang speed ng tt ba. parang pitch perfect. ang problema naman pag direct drive gamit mo eh yung rumble naman, sabi nga boss jun, nagrarambolan pag lapit na matapos yung plaka. sa kso ng mahal na belt drive, eh walang kaguluhan kse nakalayo yung motor unit. me konting pangamot dito pag lumang amp ang gmit kse may low and high pass filter yon. sinubukan ko di ko narinig na nagbago. bka sira na yung switch nung sken kya walang nagbago ;D ;D ;D.ska rule of thumb daw, pag bigat ng platter pag gling ng TT.
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #834 on: Apr 17, 2014 at 10:03 AM »
Emperor Dodie really is the King of Analog!

Agree w/ Dodie re: Wow and Flutter...so best bet is Idler TTs...The TT being sold by muypogi (Pioneer) is already a good one! Pair it w/ a Denon DL-103 that's a sub-P25,000 system...Cheaper than an RP-3
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« Reply #835 on: Apr 17, 2014 at 10:30 AM »
Emperor Dodie really is the King of Analog!

Agree w/ Dodie re: Wow and Flutter...so best bet is Idler TTs...The TT being sold by muypogi (Pioneer) is already a good one! Pair it w/ a Denon DL-103 that's a sub-P25,000 system...Cheaper than an RP-3

pa king king ka pa jan boss jen, eh google lang yan. ;D ;D ;D ;D hindi nga inexplain sken ni boss noli yan nung una eh.....bsta sbi nya get a lenco and youll have no problem ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D tama ba boss jun ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #836 on: Apr 17, 2014 at 10:38 AM »
pa king king ka pa jan boss jen, eh google lang yan. ;D ;D ;D ;D hindi nga inexplain sken ni boss noli yan nung una eh.....bsta sbi nya get a lenco and youll have no problem ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D tama ba boss jun ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hahaha! :D :D :D :D :D
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« Reply #837 on: Apr 17, 2014 at 08:16 PM »
...bsta sbi nya get a lenco and youll have no problem ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D tama ba boss jun ;D ;D ;D ;D

tama boss dodie  ;D ;D,

ako rin nag start muna sa mm cart para maranasan yun musical sound then noon nagka budget jump na sa mc cart low output  >:D >:D. One of the FAQ :  Is there a difference in sound between low output and high output mc cart? In principle no but in all day life yes  :) ;) ;) 
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #838 on: Apr 18, 2014 at 08:07 PM »
yung mga phono inputs pala sa mga receivers, saka phono preamps, minsan MM lang? (for example, Marantz PM 6005, Rega Brio R, Rega Fono). What if you want to use MC? Do you buy a phono preamp which is both MM and MC?

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #839 on: Apr 18, 2014 at 08:14 PM »
yung mga phono inputs pala sa mga receivers, saka phono preamps, minsan MM lang? (for example, Marantz PM 6005, Rega Brio R, Rega Fono). What if you want to use MC? Do you buy a phono preamp which is both MM and MC?

Depends on your need. Some people just have amps w/ MM phono input and then they use SUT (step up transformer) for MC.
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