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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1080 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 06:18 AM »
What is better for newbies to purchase, a Rega RP1 or Japan surplus vintage Sansui? Lets discuss about sound quality, maintenance, parts availability and resale value. Thanks PDVD.

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1081 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 06:44 AM »
What is better for newbies to purchase, a Rega RP1 or Japan surplus vintage Sansui? Lets discuss about sound quality, maintenance, parts availability and resale value. Thanks PDVD.

I've gone the route of vintage tables, and of course if you can find a nice mint/working direct drive table that would ideal.

Of course, if you want instant reliability and want it fuss free, a Rega RP-1 would be your best bet. I have Queen turntable that is based on the RP-1 (but with an RP-3) motor and coupled with an Ortofon Red cart, sounds the same if not a bit better than my vintage idler Pioneer (when it was running properly).

SQ for me depends more on the cart and phono stage rather than the table, if we are talking about this price range (eg RP-1 vs vintage).
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1082 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 07:11 AM »
I've gone the route of vintage tables, and of course if you can find a nice mint/working direct drive table that would ideal.

Of course, if you want instant reliability and want it fuss free, a Rega RP-1 would be your best bet. I have Queen turntable that is based on the RP-1 (but with an RP-3) motor and coupled with an Ortofon Red cart, sounds the same if not a bit better than my vintage idler Pioneer (when it was running properly).

SQ for me depends more on the cart and phono stage rather than the table, if we are talking about this price range (eg RP-1 vs vintage).
+1 Totally agree with this.
Of course, what you can do as suggested, is audition both the Rega & the vintage TT.
Depending on your location, I am sure members would be glad to help you audition their Rega and/ or Vintage TT.

If you're anywhere near San Juan pm me.
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1083 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 08:27 AM »
Thanks very helpful advise...

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1084 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 09:09 AM »
It takes a lot of dedication if you plan on exploring the world of vinyl.

Is it for you? Only you can answer that.

I suggest you buy a common/safe tt like the rp1 (may goldring pa ba?), if you like vinyl you can easily dispose of it and upgrade. If you dont, Im sure someone here in the forum would be happy to buy them from you.

Im not sure you can do this with a vintage japanese tt... but if its a 301, a 124 or a Lenco then its another story.
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1085 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 09:41 AM »
I have used vinyl's until late 1980's (with my dad's system) and my wife inherited vinyls collection since 1930's from his late uncle. I have at least some idea on how they work but was left behind (30 yrs behind).

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1086 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 09:56 AM »
Thats good to know sir. I was basing my comments on the word newbie.
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1087 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 01:20 PM »
I have a different experience.
If the entry point is Rega RP1, I had a better experience with Vintage tables, not Sansui but in Technics and Denon.
- vintage with a N447 sounded more soulful on older records.

If the entry point is Rega RP3(heavy platter) with Red Ortofon then it is a long term turntable for vocals and jazz. I believe SL-1200 still is the table to beat for Rock.
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1088 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 01:55 PM »
Is Rega service and parts fully supported in PH?

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1089 on: Jan 29, 2016 at 05:35 PM »
If purchased from an Authorized Dealer, Yes.
Is Rega service and parts fully supported in PH?
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1090 on: Feb 03, 2016 at 01:53 AM »
para sure ka sir sa reliability at parts availability at may magaling pang gumawa, technics 1200 mk2 na lang ang hanapin nyo. tapos m447 lang na shure ang cart nyo. sa halangang 20k may very reliable ka ng turntable. ang bilis pang ibenta ng 1200 pag ayaw mo na, promise! ;D ;D


 
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1091 on: Feb 03, 2016 at 10:01 AM »
para sure ka sir sa reliability at parts availability at may magaling pang gumawa, technics 1200 mk2 na lang ang hanapin nyo. tapos m447 lang na shure ang cart nyo. sa halangang 20k may very reliable ka ng turntable. ang bilis pang ibenta ng 1200 pag ayaw mo na, promise! ;D ;D

 

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nice vintage tts, also sings with me well. try mo junb & grab one, if you have the chance
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1092 on: Feb 03, 2016 at 01:27 PM »
Finally after contemplating on what to get, I went to the vintage path due to limited funds and I love vintage items since I want my system to be as simple as possible and believe that vintage units are made to last due to its simplicity of design and less or to no electronic parts. Also rather than spending funds on expensive turntable I will use it in getting a good headset. Thanks PDVD.

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1093 on: Feb 03, 2016 at 01:30 PM »
wow naman.
ganda naman pala eh.
what model sir, is that a pioneer brand?
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1094 on: Feb 03, 2016 at 02:03 PM »
It's a Sansui 2050, 1970's era.

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1095 on: Feb 03, 2016 at 10:17 PM »
para sure ka sir sa reliability at parts availability at may magaling pang gumawa, technics 1200 mk2 na lang ang hanapin nyo. tapos m447 lang na shure ang cart nyo. sa halangang 20k may very reliable ka ng turntable. ang bilis pang ibenta ng 1200 pag ayaw mo na, promise! ;D ;D

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1096 on: Feb 05, 2016 at 02:12 AM »
sharing with you my newly acquired Project Essential II.  I've used it only a couple of days but beats my old Denon DP 300 right off the box. Happy camper here.
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1097 on: Feb 10, 2016 at 05:23 PM »
Illuminated Pearl 1200

Original decks are SL1200 MK3D (Japanese release). Main diecast frames and tonearm sections are repainted in pearl white with blueish shade glossy finish. Platter are scraped, repainted to flat white and re-faced (3-step). All LEDs are fitted with super bright white including converted pop-up lamp. Under-platter halo installed. Pitch control calibrated and lubricated with DeOxit. Tonearms calibrated to factory setting and pivot bearings lubricated. All parts cleaned including PCBs. Motor spindle cleaned and lubricated. New RCA & cables and connectors with internal ground. New aluminum pitch decals applied (black with gold markings).




























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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1098 on: Feb 14, 2016 at 07:29 PM »
Meron po akong Motorino MK II at hindi niya po na nailalabas yung buong tunong ng rubber soul at sgt peppers album ko(minsan ay kulang ng instrumento, minsan second voice lamang po ang meron, minsan mas malakas ang instrumento kaysa sa boses). bakit po kaya ito nangyayari? Maraming salamat po!

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1099 on: Feb 28, 2016 at 05:49 PM »

Meron po akong Motorino MK II at hindi niya po na nailalabas yung buong tunong ng rubber soul at sgt peppers album ko(minsan ay kulang ng instrumento, minsan second voice lamang po ang meron, minsan mas malakas ang instrumento kaysa sa boses). bakit po kaya ito nangyayari? Maraming salamat po!
Just return it and have it repaired. Looks like the mk2 suffers from faulty speaker wiring.
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1100 on: Feb 29, 2016 at 01:56 AM »
Or buy a proper turntable. :)

Just return it and have it repaired. Looks like the mk2 suffers from faulty speaker wiring.

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1101 on: Feb 29, 2016 at 01:58 AM »
As for me, i prefer the vintage japanese tables than contemporary ones. Proper set up i.e. Alignment, tracking force etc. is a must if you really wanna enjoy your vinyls. :)

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1102 on: Feb 29, 2016 at 11:32 PM »
Hi guys!

I just bought my first turntable (RP-1) and a plaka. Ang sarap pala talaga sa tenga ang vinyl. Di nakakapagod pakinggan.

Quick question lang, what should I look for when buying my vinyls? I heard merong mga Japanese pressings etc.. original.. re-issue? Paano ko malalaman  kung saan country pressed?/made yung plaka?

Thanks!

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1103 on: Mar 01, 2016 at 03:35 AM »
What is the recommended but not too pricey p-mount cartridge? Thanks.  ;)
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1104 on: Mar 01, 2016 at 10:13 AM »
I have a different experience.
If the entry point is Rega RP1, I had a better experience with Vintage tables, not Sansui but in Technics and Denon.
- vintage with a N447 sounded more soulful on older records.

If the entry point is Rega RP3(heavy platter) with Red Ortofon then it is a long term turntable for vocals and jazz. I believe SL-1200 still is the table to beat for Rock.
TUMPAK, parang based on my experience ko ito ahhh, changed my rega TT to japanese table SL1200, massive iprovement on my rock set up  >:D , naka smile pa wallet ko  O0
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1105 on: Mar 01, 2016 at 10:39 PM »
I have shure m97xe and audio technica at95, nilampaso ng mas mura yung mas mahal. Sinunod ko lahat ng allignment and specs requirement nunnikinabit ko. Mas malakas din ang pickup ng AT compare to shure.

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« Reply #1106 on: Mar 05, 2016 at 05:30 AM »
I have shure m97xe and audio technica at95, nilampaso ng mas mura yung mas mahal. Sinunod ko lahat ng allignment and specs requirement nunnikinabit ko. Mas malakas din ang pickup ng AT compare to shure.

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1107 on: Apr 08, 2016 at 10:47 AM »
Ei Turntable Brothers need a new belt for my Pioneer pl30 any ideas where I can get one?

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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1108 on: Apr 08, 2016 at 01:23 PM »
Ei Turntable Brothers need a new belt for my Pioneer pl30 any ideas where I can get one?

kung wala kang makitang replacement, hanap ka sir sa mga tindahan ng oilseals. hanap ka ng kaparehong diameter nung original, ayos na yan. kung wala talaga, pwede ka magpagawa sa simplex (binondo) ng exato sa sukat mo.
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Re: Turntable Part 2
« Reply #1109 on: Apr 09, 2016 at 07:54 PM »
Ordered a couple of belts from Amazon $9 each for the phono preamp ok ba ung cambridge 551p bnew for 4600