Author Topic: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD (Read 73798 times)

Philander · « **Reply #360 on:** Mar 24, 2006 at 11:55 AM »

and the players are here...

http://www.techenclave.com/forums/sony-announces-blu-ray-vaios-players-68797.html

Munskie · « **Reply #361 on:** Mar 24, 2006 at 12:09 PM »

dang...high definition is really just around the corner......the decision is when are you gonna adopt it....its hard not to be an early adopter when the titles are released na....and definitely when reviews come in na.....one thing that would delay it....budget...

bayonic · « **Reply #362 on:** Mar 24, 2006 at 12:37 PM »

meron na bang poll on what format PinoyDVD members intend to purchase ?
i think a big factor in deciding which format to support is the availability of titles .... for me that includes USED , PRE-OWNED or PWEDENG HIRAMIN .....

slowhand · « **Reply #363 on:** Mar 24, 2006 at 12:47 PM »

bayonic - great idea. something like:

Where do you stand on the upcoming high-def formats?

I will get a Blu-Ray player this year.
I will get an HD-DVD player this year.
I will wait for a universal player that can play both formats.
I am fine with current DVD’s.
I don’t care.

(do we have a poll mechanism somewhere in the site?)

Munskie · « **Reply #364 on:** Mar 24, 2006 at 12:48 PM »

yup..a poll which format they will support...hd-dvd or BD....

Munskie · « **Reply #365 on:** Mar 24, 2006 at 12:54 PM »

meron na ba plans of a universal player? which manufacturer?

slowhand · « **Reply #366 on:** Mar 24, 2006 at 01:03 PM »

LG and Samsung have announced plans for a universal player.

munskie, your post about deciding whether to adopt it or not got me looking at my dvd collection. I was an early adopter (1999) and of the first 100 dvds that I bought, only 4 of them can compare in video and audio quality with the current production -- Se7en platinum series, Fight Club, Any Given Sunday and to a lesser extent Saving Private Ryan. Four out of 100!

If I count those that were eventually given a better treatment, 36 out of the 100 later came out in some form of special edition, and some of those have gone to their third iteration.

The numbers tell me I should wait.

I'll just avoid my favorite a/v salesman who will likely say, "kaya lang, bossing, wala ka pa."

Munskie · « **Reply #367 on:** Mar 24, 2006 at 01:20 PM »

yup, thats essentially true...thats the risk of being an early adopter.....that enhancements would be made, and in your case the quality of production of the titles. but am sure early adopters of HD wouldnt really mind that there would be better quality titles in the future....they just wanna have a taste of HD content now....lalu na yung me budget. I for one will be an early adopter....kung me budget lang ako.....(at sana me universal player). That's a big if unfortunately.....

barrister · « **Reply #368 on:** Mar 24, 2006 at 02:24 PM »

HVD News:

HVD promises 3.9 Terabyte capacity.

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Media-Tech Association Press Release, 2-23-2006:

MEDIA-TECH Association Partners with HVD Alliance for Presentation of Holographic Storage at MEDIA-TECH Expo 2006

Always focusing on the latest developments in media manufacturing, the MEDIA-TECH Association will partner with the HVD Alliance for a seminar presentation on Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD) at the upcoming MEDIA-TECH Expo. In addition, the HVD Alliance will be represented with a booth at the event. Employing holographic storage technology, HVD shows parameters leading many specialists already to regard this technology as the fourth generation of Optical Disc.

Experts from the field will introduce this new optical storage technology offering capacities of up to 3.9 terabyte. Hideyoshi Horimai, Chief Technology Office of Optware Corporation, the inventor of HVD will also speak at the seminar during the Expo. The new format uses a technology called Collinear™ Holography, which employs two lasers collimated in a single beam.

“With the MEDIA-TECH Association also focusing on the long-term developments in media manufacturing, this partnership between MEDIA-TECH and the HVD Alliance will help the media manufacturing and storage industry understand how it can grow”, says Bryan Ekus, Managing Director of MTA: “The MEDIA-TECH Association is always trying to bring advancements in media manufacturing technology to the forefront of our industry. Therefore this partnership is an excellent opportunity to introduce the HVD Alliance and help promote the fourth generation of optical storage to our manufacturing community.” MEDIA-TECH Expo 2006, the leading annual tradeshow for the media manufacturing industry, will take place from May 30 – June 01, 2006 at Hall 3 of Messe Frankfurt. For more details about the MEDIA-TECH Association and MEDIA-TECH Expo, please visit www.media-tech.net.

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3.9 TB is only a projected capacity of the HVD. Optware is expected to release a 200 GB disc in June of 2006; on the other hand, Maxell is expected to release a 300 GB capacity disc in September 2006.

At present, HDV's intended market is the industry user with high capacity needs, such as TV stations. The home user is not the intended consumer --- at least, NOT YET.

Matagal pa naman 'yan. Pag nakabili ka na ng mga 1,000 titles sa Blu-Ray format, tamang-tamang magkakaroon naman ng HVD.

pchin · « **Reply #369 on:** Mar 24, 2006 at 07:44 PM »

Quote from: slowhand on Mar 24, 2006 at 01:03 PM

LG and Samsung have announced plans for a universal player.

The numbers tell me I should wait.

Samsung was the first to announce a dual format player but later withdrawn their statement. LG later join in the list of dual format player. Let's hope the price won't cost an arm, an eye & a heart-attack!

Agree with slowhand...we shud wait but waiting is the hardest part

pchin · « **Reply #370 on:** Mar 25, 2006 at 10:44 AM »

U.S. unit may delay the launch of its next-generation DVD player for several weeks to coincide with the April debut of movies that play in the new HD DVD format, the company said on Thursday.

By contrast, Sony Pictures has said it aims to deliver its first movies in the Blu-ray DVD format to U.S. stores in late May to coincide with the entry of compatible disc players, from makers like Samsung Electronics Co. (005930.KS)

However, Sony has delayed the release of its PlayStation 3 console until early November, a launch that is expected to give a huge boost to the installed base of the Blu-ray technology.

Full article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060323/tc_nm/media_toshiba_dvd_dc_2

baby · « **Reply #371 on:** Mar 25, 2006 at 07:19 PM »

I can't wait till I can see it with my out eyes true 1080i/p. btw. dvdempire have pricing already on bluray's

http://www.dvdempire.com/index.asp?userid=99364644546346&tab_id=59&site_id=66&site_media_id=0

pchin · « **Reply #372 on:** Mar 28, 2006 at 11:30 AM »

One of the nastier capabilities of both Blu-ray and HD DVD allows for content holders to force image quality degradation onto users whose TVs aren't quite up to snuff. The original plan was simple: if a TV lacked a secure HD input (i.e., HDMI or something else supporting HDCP), studios could instruct next-generation disc players to reduce the quality of the video output to something less than 720p.

This has been billed as an anti-piracy measure, inasmuch as it is designed to keep the pristine, full digital HD signal away from anything that's not locked down. Consumer advocates have attacked the plan, however, saying that the only thing it is likely to stop is honest people from enjoying their discs' full HD potential.

Full article: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060327-6473.html

Quitacet · « **Reply #373 on:** Mar 28, 2006 at 11:34 AM »

Phantom of the Opera HD-DVD

Special Features
Extras in 480i Standard Definition video
Behind the Mask: The Story of the Phantom of the Opera"
"The Making of the Phantom of the Opera: Preproduction, the Director, and the Production"
Deleted scene: "No One Would Listen"
Sing a long
Theatrical Trailer

Disc Details
Video: Widescreen 2.35:1
Anamorphic: Yes (Anamorphic)
Audio: english in dolby digital plus 5.1
english in dolby truehd 5.1
french in dolby digital plus 5.1
Subtitles: English SDH, English, Francais, Latin Spanish
Runtime: 141 minutes
Release date: April 18, 2006
Production Year: 2004
Price (SRP): $28.98
Released by: Warner Bros.

Quitacet · « **Reply #374 on:** Mar 28, 2006 at 11:38 AM »

The Last Samurai HD-DVD

Special Features
Extras in 480i Standard Definition
History Channel Documentary: "History vs. Hollywood: The Last Samurai"
Featurettes:
"Tom Cruise: A Warrior's Journey"
"Edward Zwick: A Director's Video Journal": Behind-the-scenes production journal narrated by Ed Zwick and Tom Cruise
"Making an Epic: A Conversation with Edward Zwick"
"A World of Detail: Production Design with Lilly Kilvert"
"Silk and Armor: Costume Design with Ngila Dickson"
"Imperial Army Basic Training: From Soldier to Samurai: The Weapons"
Deleted Scenes with Optional Director Commentary
Japan Premieres (Tokyo and Kyoto)
Theatrical Trailers

DVD Details: Last Samurai, The (HD-DVD)

DVD Details DVD Review Easter Egg Menu Screens Screenshots Video Clips Comments[6]

Disc Details
Video: Widescreen 2.35:1 Color
Anamorphic: Yes (Anamorphic)
Audio: english in dolby digital plus 5.1,french in dolby digital plus 5.1 , spanish in dolby digital 2.0
Subtitles: English SDH, English, French, Spanish
Runtime: 154 minutes

Release date: April 18, 2006
Production Year: 2003
Price (SRP): $28.98
Released by: Warner Bros.

Quitacet · « **Reply #375 on:** Mar 28, 2006 at 11:42 AM »

Million Dollar baby HD-DVD

Special Features
Extras in 480i Standard Definition
Theatrical Trailer
James Lipton Takes on Three: Roundtable with Clint Eastwood, Hilary Swank, Morgan Freeman and Moderator James Lipton
Born to Fight: Examines the Parallels of the Movie to the Real-Life Boxer Lucia Rijker
Producers Round 15: Behind the Scenes

Disc Details
Video: Widescreen 2.35:1
Anamorphic: Yes (Anamorphic)
Audio: english in dolby digital plus 5.1 , french in dolby digital plus 5.1
Subtitles: English, French, Spanish
Runtime: 132

Release date: April 18, 2006
Production Year: 2004
Price (SRP): $28.98
Released by: Warner Bros.

MAtZTER · « **Reply #376 on:** Mar 28, 2006 at 03:14 PM »

Quote from: pchin on Mar 28, 2006 at 11:30 AM

One of the nastier capabilities of both Blu-ray and HD DVD allows for content holders to force image quality degradation onto users whose TVs aren't quite up to snuff. The original plan was simple: if a TV lacked a secure HD input (i.e., HDMI or something else supporting HDCP), studios could instruct next-generation disc players to reduce the quality of the video output to something less than 720p.

This has been billed as an anti-piracy measure, inasmuch as it is designed to keep the pristine, full digital HD signal away from anything that's not locked down. Consumer advocates have attacked the plan, however, saying that the only thing it is likely to stop is honest people from enjoying their discs' full HD potential.

Full article: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060327-6473.html

Just an opinion, but I do believe that this measure is not a huge concern if your display is 32" or lower. You have been to our place Paul and we both tested several materials in both a big screen and a smaller 32" screen, and with both component connection and HDMI for the 2 displays.

The differences are very hard to spot with smaller displays, unless your eyes are extremely sharp.

just my 2 cents

pchin · « **Reply #377 on:** Mar 28, 2006 at 08:31 PM »

I agree with MAtZTER. Generally, for one to enjoy & appreciate true HD for screen size 42" & above.

Even though if the HD is down-rezz, the end result is still almost double the resolution of our standard DVD. So if we view in a 32" LCD HDTV....it's clearer & sharper than DVD

baby · « **Reply #378 on:** Mar 29, 2006 at 07:23 AM »

I've notice that there is no regional coding for HD-DVD from the pix. wala nabang Regional coding?

Quote from: pchin on Mar 28, 2006 at 08:31 PM

I agree with MAtZTER. Generally, for one to enjoy & appreciate true HD for screen size 42" & above.

Even though if the HD is down-rezz, the end result is still almost double the resolution of our standard DVD. So if we view in a 32" LCD HDTV....it's clearer & sharper than DVD

True. You can really enjoy it when you watch it on bigger screens. But I can still the diffrerence when viewing in small screens. But my wife doesn't.

pchin · « **Reply #379 on:** Mar 29, 2006 at 09:07 AM »

As a late Nondenominationalmas present to all you import lovers out there, it has just been announced that the U.S. will share Blu-ray Region 1 status with South America and, more importantly, East Asia minus China. (For the 58% of young Americans who are unable to locate it on a map, this means that Japan and the US are in the same region).

Full article: http://www.engadget.com/2005/12/27/us-japan-joyous-in-blu-ray-region-1-embrace/

Both the Toshiba HD-DVD players are currently region-free. But they could change that with a firmware update down the line.

Great news for us as we are in the same league with the US & Jap...that's a BIG time score!!

av_phile1 · « **Reply #380 on:** Mar 29, 2006 at 12:39 PM »

Quote from: pchin on Mar 24, 2006 at 07:44 PM

Agree with slowhand...we shud wait but waiting is the hardest part

As always, good things come to those who wait.

av_phile1 · « **Reply #381 on:** Mar 29, 2006 at 12:43 PM »

Quote from: aldrinpsx on Mar 23, 2006 at 11:47 PM

Just some of the more than 100 movies scheduled for launch
on Blu-ray Disc during the first wave of releases
(Titles subject to change)

Sony Pictures/MGM — 20 titles, including:

Resident Evil: Apocalypse
House of Flying Daggers
Stealth
Hitch
The Fifth Element
Kung Fu Hustle
Robocop

Warner Bros. — 15 titles, including:

Batman Begins
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
The Dukes of Hazzard
Million Dollar Baby
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines

Buena Vista — 10 titles, including:

Kill Bill: Volume 1
Hero
Ladder 49
The Brothers Grimm
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back

20th Century Fox — 20 titles, including:

Fantastic Four
Ice Age
The Transporter
Planet of the Apes
Flight of the Phoenix

Paramount — 10 titles, including:

Mission: Impossible
Mission: Impossible 2
Tomb Raider
The Italian Job
Sahara

Lions Gate — 10 titles, including:

Lord of War
The Punisher
Saw
Terminator 2: Judgment Day
Reservoir Dogs

soure:bestbuy

peace!!!

Except maybe for Batman Begins, House of Flying Daggers and Ice Age, the first HD titles are not inspiring for me. Maybe it's a good thing I don't have the means to be an early adopter of Cutting-Edge-Technology.

I would think those with a sizeable DVD collection can probably wait 2 more years for the technology and the prices of hardware and software to stabilize. But, I guess, the itch to be among the local pioneers can be great.

MAtZTER · « **Reply #382 on:** Mar 29, 2006 at 01:57 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Mar 24, 2006 at 02:24 PM

HVD News:

HVD promises 3.9 Terabyte capacity.

At present, HDV's intended market is the industry user with high capacity needs, such as TV stations. The home user is not the intended consumer --- at least, NOT YET.

Matagal pa naman 'yan. Pag nakabili ka na ng mga 1,000 titles sa Blu-Ray format, tamang-tamang magkakaroon naman ng HVD.

My friend who works in the film transfer/ DVD encoding industry told me that current film scanning machines have resolutions of up to 1600 (or higher I think), even more than our current 1080 resolution. Ergo, the high resolution is available, but the only problem is that there is no display that could show it. I have read abt 1600 resolution PJs but its $60k up.

Maybe in the future we will have 1600 res displays using HVD disks.

pchin · « **Reply #383 on:** Mar 30, 2006 at 06:24 PM »

Panasonic's Blu-ray Disc player, the DMP-BD10, will set consumers back a whopping $1,500 when it ships in the US in September - up to $500 more than Sony's offering. Actually, Panasonic said the DMP-BD10's price will be "less than $1,500" - so our money's on a $1499.99 price tag...

This is even worse than Sony's player which cost $1,000

pchin · « **Reply #384 on:** Mar 30, 2006 at 07:08 PM »

Release Timeline:

April 18: Warner Home Video will release the first HD DVD titles, including "Million Dollar Baby," "The Last Samurai" and the "The Phantom of the Opera." The release of Toshiba HD DVD players, expected in late March, has been delayed to coincide with the release of the DVDs, which originally were scheduled to come out yesterday.

May 23: The first Blu-ray Disc titles will be released and will include "Crash," "Saw" and "Lord of War." They are expected to cost between $30 and $40. The Blu-ray players will be released about the same time with a price tag of about $1,000 for Sony's BDP-S1 Blu-ray Disc player.

Early November: Expected release of the PlayStation 3, which will support the Blu-ray format.

Technology Flops:

BetaMax: The petite version of the VHS tape that failed to hold its own in the first home-theater war of the '80s. Marketing analysts expect the competing Blu-ray and HD DVDs formats to be the start of Home Theater War II.

pchin · « **Reply #385 on:** Apr 01, 2006 at 12:18 PM »

TOKYO - Toshiba began selling the first players using the next-generation HD DVD video format Friday, beating the rival Blu-ray disc format to market in a high-stakes competition to deliver theater-quality movies to living rooms.

Full article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12093612/from/RSS/

MAtZTER · « **Reply #386 on:** Apr 01, 2006 at 05:21 PM »

Quote from: pchin on Apr 01, 2006 at 12:18 PM

TOKYO - Toshiba began selling the first players using the next-generation HD DVD video format Friday, beating the rival Blu-ray disc format to market in a high-stakes competition to deliver theater-quality movies to living rooms.

Full article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12093612/from/RSS/

Wow, I like the one at the left.

Very nice buttons

Munskie · « **Reply #387 on:** Apr 01, 2006 at 11:15 PM »

Quote from: MAtZTER on Apr 01, 2006 at 05:21 PM

Wow, I like the one at the left. Very nice buttons

yeah...ako rin...leftist...

ricky · « **Reply #388 on:** Apr 02, 2006 at 12:03 AM »

Matz and Muns kaya kayo may HPO eh

sorry ot

pchin · « **Reply #389 on:** Apr 02, 2006 at 01:05 PM »

"The news that UK shops will soon stop selling VHS tapes of films is as ironic as it is significant. For the DVD format that has ousted poor old tape is itself already heading towards obsoletion. Tomorrow's battle is not VHS vs Betamax, or tape vs disk, but HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray."

Full article: http://www.ameinfo.com/81946.html

IMHO DVD won't become obsolete that fast. Due to the new tech & high cost of of next gen HD player/movie, DVD will live on for many more years to come as those folks that are still embracing the old VCD may find this as a good timing, hence finally transfer to the DVD stream.