Author Topic: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD (Read 73544 times)

sago · « **Reply #90 on:** Jan 28, 2003 at 02:47 AM »

f0r eternity

per0 kahit 10-15yrs pwede na.

ann07 · « **Reply #91 on:** Jan 28, 2003 at 05:33 AM »

perhaps, till as long as we live and around pinoydvd.com!

dexterc · « **Reply #92 on:** Jan 28, 2003 at 06:58 AM »

As long as there are people like us who is supporting this format

Courage · « **Reply #93 on:** Jan 28, 2003 at 10:30 AM »

Quote from: dexterc on Jan 28, 2003 at 06:58 AM

As long as there are people like us who is supporting this format

I Agree

flashnymph72 · « **Reply #94 on:** Jan 30, 2003 at 06:53 AM »

if its the media being used, well as we have known plastic is non-biodegradable, talking about the moldy era of VHS tapes & cassette tapes

if we maximize the size capability basing on the standard 1 layer cap (around 4.6 Gig)...so if we have a double sided double layer DVD that would yield us: 18 Gig of digital data! whew! baka iisang disk na lang yung StarWars Trilogy

most disk uses only 1 layer, one side

difinitely DVDs will be here for us in a longer time than any other format

johndoe · « **Reply #95 on:** Jan 30, 2003 at 07:58 PM »

i think yes..by that time cguro...a single dvd would handle 3 movies!!!!!

;Dand ang audio is 10.2!!!

bunkieboy · « **Reply #96 on:** Jan 30, 2003 at 08:08 PM »

sure hope so. sayang my investment in my collection

slowhand · « **Reply #97 on:** Feb 17, 2003 at 10:16 PM »

Blu-Ray licensing began today.
First player expected this year.
Read about it here.

daigoro · « **Reply #98 on:** Feb 17, 2003 at 10:25 PM »

the dvd is the equivalent of the cd. many have tried but none have offered a compelling alternative. just as the lp was the precursor to the cd, the dvd is the succesor of the laser disc. what can hdvd offer? more lines, better pictures, more features? we already have too much features that we care to see. more lines of resolution? most people have yet to tap progressive scan tvs and players. better picture? eh, people don't even see the difference between pirated dvds which are compressed versions of the orig dvds. dvd's are here to stay.

Mrs. T · « **Reply #99 on:** Feb 18, 2003 at 12:06 AM »

I sure hope so, daigoro. Malaki-laki na rin ang nagagastos nating mga addict dito sa DVD's.

KamoteQue · « **Reply #100 on:** Mar 01, 2003 at 01:45 PM »

What about them DVD writers....will that affect dvd sales? Seems like., hey, If I can copy them...why buy ?
KamoteQue

indski · « **Reply #101 on:** Mar 02, 2003 at 04:42 PM »

I think it boils down 2 economics if they wil ofer a better alternativ 2 dvd players wid the same price tag say gudbye 2ur dvds but 4 nw dvd is the medium 2 beat!!

DViant · « **Reply #102 on:** Mar 04, 2003 at 04:21 AM »

Japan's Sony Corp said on Monday it would start sales next month of the world's first DVD recorder that uses blue laser light and can pack a two-hour high-definition TV programme onto a single disc. It won't be cheap, with a retail list price of 450,000 yen ($3,800) while low-end DVD recorders using conventional red lasers go for as little as 50,000-70,000 yen.

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Me thinks this'll take off in the Philippines 2-3 years from now. Makes a compeling reason to get a HDTV.

notaku · « **Reply #103 on:** Mar 04, 2003 at 06:24 AM »

Dual-laser = compatible with 'old' DVDs, what about CDs?
27GB on each side of a disc at highest quality setting?!

Amazing...what will the pirates say...

Pero is this a consumer recording format only or will regular DVDs be made differently too?

DViant · « **Reply #104 on:** Mar 04, 2003 at 08:18 AM »

I guess your standard CD will still work.

AFAIK it'll be MPEG-2 @ HDTV resolution (1080i, 720p, etc)

The pirates would say... when most people have a Blu-ray disc player then they'll do it.

I'm guessing this'll be available for both consumer & pre-mastered DVDs.

Anyway DVDs are still good here in the Philippines as it isn't as popular as VCDs.

This technology though could be a compeling reason to get a HDTV. Imagine watching movies at a resolution better than DVDs!

slowhand · « **Reply #105 on:** Mar 04, 2003 at 10:41 PM »

A number of films are already out on HD: T2, Fight Club, Basic Instinct, Reservoir Dogs, Behind Enemy Lines, Gosford Park, and others. That's on a tape format, though, but still, the quality is much better than DVD -- make that, between 600% and 800% better than DVD. That's not a typo.

I was in Japan when they were first showing off HD sets -- a full ten years ago. I was blown away then, and I am blown away now every single time I see it.

DViant · « **Reply #106 on:** Mar 05, 2003 at 05:34 AM »

I was wondering where this thread went. Anyway here I go.

All the new formats will co-exist because of the issue of price. An example would be audio CDs and audio cassette tape. Til now people still buy audio cassette tape because they either preffer analogue, they can't afford to get an audio CD player & replace there tape collection with a audio CD equivalent or they're satisfied with tape. This is the same reason with VCDs v. DVDs. Most people still consider VCDs a better choice due to the price of the copies against the price of DVD movies.

What these new formats offer is a better experience on a much larger screen. Yun lang naman yung thrust. A better & richer experience.

I just hope that the entertainment industry decides on a single, region-free format.

Can't wait til we get digital cable with HDTV signals! That'll rock!

~~A q.... when did the first DVDs come out?~~

Strike that question. It debuted on March of '97. So these new fangled formats would probably catch on after at least 4-5 years.

iskolar1 · « **Reply #107 on:** Mar 05, 2003 at 06:03 AM »

Sony HD DVD for $3800? Ouch! That's too much. I'll wait to buy when the price goes down to a reasonable amount. Meanwhile, I'll just watch HD HBO.

johndoe · « **Reply #108 on:** Mar 05, 2003 at 08:48 PM »

Sony and Pioneer unveiled at the CEATEC electronics show here this week a prototype optical disc video recorder that utilizes a state-of-the-art blue laser.

The development of a commercial optical disc recording system based on a blue laser is a goal being pursued by many electronics makers at present and is seen as the next-generation leap from today's red laser-based systems. Because blue light has a shorter wavelength than red light, 405 nanometers versus 650 nanometers, data can be packed closer together and a standard optical disc can be made to hold more data.

DVR-Blue, the system on display at CEATEC this week, can store up to 22.5GB data on a standard optical disc--roughly five times the capacity of the latest 4.7GB DVD-RAM disc. Sony and Pioneer said that is enough capacity to record 2.5 hours of high-definition television, an application for which they think the new system will first catch on when commercialized.

The companies, which are working together on the research and development, bought a blue laser for the recorder from Nichia Chemical Industries, one of only two companies in Japan that is capable of producing such a device.

Commercial production is a ways off. The prototype was such a recent development that few details were available, and staff from Pioneer said that up until last week they were even unsure whether the prototype would be finished in time.

yumayari sa gabi · « **Reply #109 on:** Mar 13, 2003 at 06:09 PM »

D-VHS it won't take off to consumer or even to broadcast level you know the reason "physical contact"

levi · « **Reply #110 on:** May 03, 2003 at 02:13 PM »

bump for stardust

Mo®pHeOu$ · « **Reply #111 on:** May 05, 2003 at 11:25 AM »

I wonder how much will these HD-DVDs go when it comes to the country?

johndoe · « **Reply #112 on:** May 05, 2003 at 11:53 AM »

cguro at introductory..twice as much as the dvd's right now..

barrister · « **Reply #113 on:** May 19, 2003 at 10:40 AM »

From http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2134615,00.html :

Toshiba, NEC snub Blu-ray DVD format
12:11 Tuesday 13th May 2003
Richard Shim, CNET News.com

Toshiba and NEC have chosen to develop their own blue laser DVD technology, snubbing Blu-ray, which will spark yet another DVD standards row
Toshiba and NEC are demonstrating a new DVD recording technology that promises a significantly higher storage capacity without a major investment in new production facilities. However, the companies have snubbed Blu-ray, a similar technology which has the backing of companies including Hitachi, Matsucrapa, Samsung and Sony.

Toshiba and NEC will present details of their blue-laser format, called Advanced Optical Disc (AOD), this week at the Optical Data Storage 2003 conference in Vancouver, Canada.

AOD is based on short-wavelength blue-violet lasers -- instead of the red lasers that are now in DVD drives -- to read data off of discs.

Toshiba said in a release that it has stored up to 36GB on a single-sided disc and that the technology can be applied to consumer electronics and computer products. Current DVD's hold about 4.7GB of data.

The technology, however, is drawing a mixed response from some analysts.

"The appetite for new investments in new production lines is small right now," said Wolfgang Schlichting, research director of removable storage at research firm IDC. As a result, the claim that the blue-laser technology requires only a modest investment could resonate with manufacturers.

On the other hand, "the technology may be running too fast for end-user demand," he said. "For many, DVD is good enough."

Nevertheless, electronics companies are positioning their technologies to be leaders when (and if) consumers are ready to upgrade. Because the prices of DVD products are falling rapidly, manufacturers are looking for new technologies that could spark another round of upgrades, with higher profit margins for the hardware and media. The price of DVD drives paid by manufacturers dropped 33 percent in 2002, according to IDC.

Nine companies, including Hitachi, LG Electronics, Matsucrapa, Pioneer, Royal Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony and Thomson, are working on their own DVD recordable format, known as Blu-ray.

Sony previously announced a DVD recorder based on Blu-ray technology for the Japanese market, but has not commented on US availability.

Toshiba and NEC are working with an industry group called the DVD Forum to gain the support of its 215 member companies.

The emergence of two blue-laser DVD recording technologies could lead to a replay of the competition surrounding red-laser DVD recordable formats -- DVD+R versus DVD-R -- which has caused some consumer confusion and slowed sales.

Toshiba and NEC said that their technology allows for backward compatibility with current DVD formats.

Representatives from Toshiba did not immediately return calls for comment. In previous interviews, they have said the recorders would be available next year.

levi · « **Reply #114 on:** Jun 16, 2003 at 08:16 PM »

bump for Philander

DViant · « **Reply #115 on:** Jun 19, 2003 at 06:51 PM »

I do hope the weakest of the standards die a natural death like DIVX (not the condec).

danzig · « **Reply #116 on:** Aug 01, 2003 at 01:16 PM »

They will eventually come up with writers for these formats. At the start, the prices will high, then it will drop, together with that of DVDs.

That's what is happening with CDs.

What'll make matters worse is that they might keep prices high to maximize profits. They did that with CDs for twenty years: now they are paying for it.

slowhand · « **Reply #117 on:** Aug 07, 2003 at 06:32 AM »

Excerpt from 7/28/03 USA TODAY
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Studios and electronics companies have begun hashing out the details, but "I don't think anybody thinks that high-definition DVD is less than four or five years away," VSDA's Andersen says. "There needs to be time for the industry to settle on (one format) that is robustly backward-compatible with very, very strong encryption."

Four or five years away. (Sigh of relief?)

T-850 · « **Reply #118 on:** Sep 11, 2003 at 04:57 PM »

hi fellas, i heard in the future there will be a higher transfer for DVDs.. or has this started??

I think George Lucas will be releasing all 6 SW episodes in this format..

Also, James Cameron, I think started this with T2 Extreme Edition. The HD transfer is available on disc 2 for DVD rom format (windows media player).

Your insights please..

Tonton · « **Reply #119 on:** Oct 04, 2003 at 08:57 PM »

The technology is already existent, they're just not releasing it yet. Why? Because if they do NOW, they won't have businesses in the next few years.

We are only aware of GB memory capacities. For all we know (or maybe there is already), TG (TeraBytes) or GigaQuads! (i'm having a nose bleed

)

It's all about precious MONEY.