Topic: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD

[av_phile1]

I read Warner will release titles in both formats.  Disney might also go in that direction.  Some pundits are opining the historic analogy is not so much Beta vs VHS but more like the game formats which have co-existed profitably for a long time, with titles being released in more than one format. 

[pchin]

HD DVD and Blu-ray content to be degraded for analog displays. To prevent piracy & to keep that from happening, any video signal that doesn't travel over a protected input (such as HDMI) will be degraded.

Bad news for consumers that had bought their HDTV-ready sets earlier which have no digital output.

Full article: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060122-6027.html

[wrAth]

Analyst declares Blu-ray the winner

HALF MOON BAY, Calif. — While the battle is far from over in the next-generation DVD wars, one analyst predicts that Blu-ray Disc technology will prevail and become the eventual winner.

Full article:
http://www.eet.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=175803569

If Microsoft had chosen to utilize HD-DVD technology in its Xbox 360, the fight would be much closer, and much messier.

[pchin]

If Microsoft had chosen to utilize HD-DVD technology in its Xbox 360, the fight would be much closer, and much messier.

Probably not. HD-DVD will be an add-on feature to Xbox 360 while the upcoming PS3 integrates BD!

[tanrover]

What is the latest update on the Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD format?

Anyone shipped a player yet?

[pchin]

Hi tanrover, there's another existing thread where members posted the latest development on HD DVD & BD plus other latest news/info on on player price, movie tittles, etc 

DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35793.0

[uebetan12]

hanggang kelan na lang kaya ang mga dvd players natin at discs bago to ma-phase out?

sana naman matagal pa.malaki na rin ang nagastosko sa collection ko, tapos jurassic piece na.

pero ive heard na pwede rin itong gamitin sa mga blu ray players at hddvd players, sana nga,kaya lang magka iba na ang magiging collections natin kc mas magastos kung panibagong start na naman ng collections.

kcpagdvdlang ang ilalabas mo ten years from now,pagtatawanan ka na cgurado dahil makaluma ka kc nga blu ray at hddvd ang ang uso nun!

[pchin]

But when HD DVD or Blu ray arrrives.  All would be standard 1080p.  But will there be higher than 1080p.  Lets say 2160p?  It will give you vertigo.

While Blu-ray player is capable of 1080p & even at their web site it states it will output all movies in the highest resolution possible at 1080p, some other source states that there may be such a possibility as 1080p output in the future, as in a couple of years.

Right now, though, there are only a handful of HDTVs (like maybe three or four models) that can even reproduce/output a 1080p signal. Most mediocre HDTVs can't even reproduce a 1080i signal; they have to downconvert it to 720p.

Nevertheless, it'll be sweet if from day 1 that all HD movies will be in 1080p splendour! 

[pchin]

Blu-ray titles announced

Underworld: Evolution (Sony) - Not a launch title, to be released later in 2006
Aeon Flux (Paramount)
The Amityville Horror (MGM) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES
Angel Seekers (Air TBS) - Japan only
Armageddon (Disney)
Basic Instinct (Lions Gate) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES
Batman Begins (Warner)
Behind Enemy Lines (Fox)
Black Hawk Down (Sony)
Bram Stoker's Dracula (Sony)
The Bridge on the River Kwai (Sony)
The Brothers Grimm (Disney)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (Warner)
Chicken Little (Disney) - Not a launch title, to be released later in 2006
Constantine (Warner)
Crimson Tide (Disney) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES
Dark Water (Disney)
Desperado (Sony)
The Devil's Rejects (Lions Gate)
Dinosaur (Disney)
The Dukes of Hazzard (Warner)
Dune (Lions Gate) - TV series
Everest (Disney) - Documentary
Fantastic Four (Fox)
The Fifth Element (Sony)
Flightplan (Disney) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES
For a Few Dollars More (MGM)
Four Brothers (Paramount)
Goodfellas (Warner) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES
The Great Raid (Disney)
The Guns of Navarone (Sony)
Hero (Disney)
Hitch (Sony)
House of Flying Daggers (Sony)
Ice Age (Fox)
The Incredibles (Disney) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES
Into The Blue (Sony) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES
The Italian Job (Paramount)
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (Disney)
Kill Bill Vol. 1 (Disney)
King Arthur (Disney) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES
Kiss of the Dragon (Fox)
A Knight's Tale (Sony)
Kung Fu Hustle (Sony)
Ladder 49 (Disney)
The Last Samurai (Warner)
The Last Waltz (MGM) - Documentary
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (Fox)
Legends of the Fall (Sony)
Lethal Weapon (Warner)
Lord of War (Lions Gate)
The Manchurian Candidate (Paramount)
The Matrix (Warner)
The Matrix Reloaded (Warner) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES
Million Dollar Baby (Warner)
Mission Impossible (Paramount) - Not a launch title, to be released later in 2006
Mission Impossible 2 (Paramount) - Not a launch title, to be released later in 2006
Mission Impossible 3 (Paramount) - Not a launch title, to be released later in 2006
New Cinema Paradise (Asmik Ace) - Japan only
Ocean's Twelve (Warner)
Pirates of the Caribbean (Disney) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES
The Punisher (Lions Gate)
Rambo: First Blood (Lions Gate)
Reservoir Dogs (Lions Gate)
Resident Evil (Sony) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES
Resident Evil: Apocalypse (Sony)
Robocop (MGM)
S.W.A.T (Sony)
Sahara (Paramount)
Saw (Lions Gate)
See No Evil (Lions Gate)
Sense and Sensibility (Sony)
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (Paramount)
Sleepy Hollow (Paramount)
Species (MGM)
Spider-Man (Sony) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES
Stargate Atlantis (MGM) - TV series
Stealth (Sony)
Steamboy (Bandai Visual) - Japan only
Step Into Liquid (Lions Gate)
Swordfish (Warner)
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (Lions Gate)
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (Warner)
Tomb Raider (Paramount)
Total Recall (Lions Gate)
Training Day (Warner)
Troy (Warner)
Twister (Warner)
U2: Rattle and Hum (Paramount) - Documentary
Unforgiven (Warner)
We Were Soldiers (Paramount)
xXx (Sony)
xXx: State of the Union (Sony) - Not yet announced, but packaging shown at CES

[wrAth]

Probably not. HD-DVD will be an add-on feature to Xbox 360 while the upcoming PS3 integrates BD!

well, there go any chances of a unification.

[av_phile1]

It's probabaly too late for that now.   There's a good chance both formats will coexist, much like those game titles that are often carried in more than two formats.  The paradigm is no longer VHS vs Beta, but more like the happy thriving competition between Sega, PS2, Xbox, PC-games, Nintendo and N-gage.   

[Mr. Big Boy]

It would be very interesting to follow the release of PS3 into the market.  It's practically the debut of Blu-Ray format into the AV market and the success or the failure of PS3 would be a very big factor in this HDD format wars.

I think we, digital video and movie aficionados should be happy that we're still young enough to appreciate the technology shift, atleast naabutan pa natin ang HD era. hehehe

[pchin]

Sony Pictures will use the introduction of Blu-ray movie DVDs to raise prices by about 20 per cent...

Full article: http://www.pcw.co.uk/vnunet/news/2150021/consumers-face-blu-ray-dvd

[pchin]

FEB. 10 | With only a small number of high-definition players expected to reach the market at launch, Warner Home Video and Sony Pictures Home Entertainment are planning to limit the release of HD DVD and Blu-ray discs, respectively, to those retailers also selling players.

Full article: http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6306707.html

[pchin]

FEB. 7 | Although Blu-ray Disc players might cost more than HD DVD players when the two high-definition formats launch later this year, movie prices are likely to be similar.

Sony Pictures Home Entertainment president Benjamin Feingold said Tuesday that new release Blu-ray titles from the studio will carry a wholesale price to retailers of $23.45 while catalog titles will be priced at $17.95.

Full article: http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6305651.html

[chinoh151]

I don't want to sound stupid but what is this?

[pchin]

It means High Definition DVD. It is one of the two HD formats. The other format is Blu-ray (BD)

There's an existing link that discuss these formats & some latest news in the HD industry 
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35793.280

Here's another good reference source about the different formats
http://www.hddvd.org/hddvd/difformatsblueray.php?PHPSESSID=94c4a945078d367e167659035dfdeadf

[chinoh151]

Thanks!

So it's just like the DVD?

[Gideon]

Thanks!

So it's just like the DVD?

Yup, only better.  Panlaban ika nga sa Blu-Ray.

[classicman]

w/ the onslaught of BD & HD DVD, i think it will be interesting to guess or even make a friendly bet on who among the pinoydvd members will create & first post on a new thread "Most recently viewed BD/HD DVD".......


my hard earned money goes for paul (a.k.a. pchin). any takers......

[pchin]

U talaga bro Leo... Yeah a new addition thread of "Most recently viewed BD/HD DVD" will be nice but I guess those who stay in US will be the first to post in view our local market will be a little behind the main stream schedule... 

I'll sit on the fence & wait a little longer until the format war dust settle a bit or at least the HD player will be much affordable. Hopefully the upcoming PS3 will be affordable?? 

[barrid]

I'll be waiting for a generic player that can play all of these formats. 

[baby]

patience is a virtue.  Sana makatiis hehe .  Well I'm really looking forward to this.  I really really want to see LOTR in 1080p and matrix also.  But I still don't have the $$$ for that. 

[pchin]

O nga ya...watching all our favourite movies in HD 1080p glory.... It's a big $$$ investment  :'(

Guess I've to be content being able to watch 720p thru my HDTV for the time being untill such time in the future to finally upgrade to 1080p display

[pchin]

"Toshiba will be the first to market with about 30,000 players in play, but when Sony releases its PS3, they will have between 5 million and 10 million machines that can read Blu-Ray," said Richard Doherty, research director for The Envisioneering Group. "The factor here isn't just who is the first to market, but it is, 'What will the volume be as well?'"

"We think in the end the Blu-Ray will win the format war," Martin said. 

Full article: http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_3503899?source=rss

[pchin]

"Remember all of the positioning about which next-generation optical format would hit the market first? Forget about it. It now appears that both formats will hit the market at the same time, because delays in the security specification that they both share have left everyone—device manufacturers, movie studios, and the leaders of the respective formats—in a holding pattern"

Full article: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060214-6182.html

Geez....here we go again

[pchin]

Now loks like Blu0ray is getting the blame...yeah it's a waste of time..no matter what they do, eventually it will get hacked then they have to change the code then again then gain....there's no end to it

Full article:
http://us.gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/bluray-causes-nextgen-media-delays-155021.php

[pchin]

Toshiba Tours America to Promote the Launch of HD DVD Players

Click the link for the nice presentation & u can register for updates

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/hddvd/

[pchin]

"A critical hurdle to the launch of both the Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD formats was cleared late Wednesday when negotiators reached agreement on an interim license for the AACS copy-protection system slated to be used by both high-definition formats, sources involved in the discussions said."

Full article: http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6308373.html

[pchin]

If you're one of the first adopters who mortgaged the house to buy the earliest HDTV displays, don't expect to get full HD resolution when you take out a second mortgage for a high-def disc player when they come out later this year. Today the copy-protection rules for Blu-ray or HD DVD — the two formats competing to be the standard for HD discs — are being unveiled. Called Advanced Access Content System (AACS), the rules clearly show the major movie studios are determined to stymie potential piracy, but their efforts may short-change people with older HDTVs

Full article:
http://blog.scifi.com/tech/archives/early_hdtv_adopters_screwed_by_hddisc_rules.html#more