Topic: Denon A/V Receivers

[james16]

Ask ko lang mga 1912 owners, can the 1912 play FLAC files stored on an external HDD attached to the USB port? Upto what size of HDD is supported?

have not tried yet but i think hindi sya pwede, i might be wrong though..

[ninjababez®]

Ask ko lang mga 1912 owners, can the 1912 play FLAC files stored on an external HDD attached to the USB port? Upto what size of HDD is supported?

ill download flac later, will try playing it via 1912 (though i doubt it would work)

[stickfighter]

Just wanted to share the Denon/Marantz store at the Dubai Mall




This receiver costs Php335,880.00


The model of this receiver is AVCA1HD at Php335,880.00


The Power Amp below the DVD Player cost Php419,880.00


The Denon 1312 is only Php16,788.00 and the 1612 is only Php22,788.00 - mura lang

 

[jao143]

bro martin, how bout the 4311? Mahal talaga yung 100th anniversart edition nang denon

[ninjababez®]

Just wanted to share the Denon/Marantz store at the Dubai Mall
This receiver costs Php335,880.00
The model of this receiver is AVCA1HD at Php335,880.00
The Power Amp below the DVD Player cost Php419,880.00
The Denon 1312 is only Php16,788.00 and the 1612 is only Php22,788.00 - mura lang
 

bro marts anong naiskor mo? 

[ninjababez®]

Ask ko lang mga 1912 owners, can the 1912 play FLAC files stored on an external HDD attached to the USB port? Upto what size of HDD is supported?

according to this cnet link it does support FLAC

Supported digital audio standards AAC,
WMA,
FLAC,
MP3

[stickfighter]

bro marts anong naiskor mo? 

WALA brader! Wala na akong pera eh!!!

[R1DVD]

according to this cnet link it does support FLAC

Supported digital audio standards AAC,
WMA,
FLAC,
MP3

I auditioned the 1912 today.  I plugged in a 500 GB external HDD with flacs (NTFS-formatted) and the Denon failed to recognize the HDD.   I plugged the same HDD to an Onkyo 609 and the FLAC files played flawlessly.  Di ba talaga kaya ng Denon ang external HDD, or is it because the HDD is NTFS-formatted? 

I really like to buy the 1912 because of airplay and MultEQ XT.  But I'm a bit worried because 2 retailers sort of discouraged me from getting a Denon dahil either sirain daw or pangit ang after-sales service.  In fact, I went to an AV store today and was told that they don't have stock of 1912.  They have 1 daw pero returned item due to defective subwoofer out.  I hope isolated case lang ito.  Can Denon owners share their experience with Denon after-sales service.   I plan to buy a receiver within the week and Im leaning towards the Denon 1912 (other options are Onkyo 609/709).

[ninjababez®]

I auditioned the 1912 today.  I plugged in a 500 GB external HDD with flacs (NTFS-formatted) and the Denon failed to recognize the HDD.   I plugged the same HDD to an Onkyo 609 and the FLAC files played flawlessly.  Di ba talaga kaya ng Denon ang external HDD, or is it because the HDD is NTFS-formatted? 

I really like to buy the 1912 because of airplay and MultEQ XT.  But I'm a bit worried because 2 retailers sort of discouraged me from getting a Denon dahil either sirain daw or pangit ang after-sales service.  In fact, I went to an AV store today and was told that they don't have stock of 1912.  They have 1 daw pero returned item due to defective subwoofer out.  I hope isolated case lang ito.  Can Denon owners share their experience with Denon after-sales service.   I plan to buy a receiver within the week and Im leaning towards the Denon 1912 (other options are Onkyo 609/709).

baka naman di ganun kataas ang tubo kaya nila discouraged
pero pareho tayo ng situation several months ago, may nabasa rin ako online na sirain daw 1912.  i did however checked the manufacturing date before purchasing.  can't really comment re: aftersales service, as i never had problems with my previous 1509 and this 1912 (crossing fingers ).
re: ntfs not really sure kasi iphone and 8gb flash driver palang nagagmit ko sa usb ng denon.

[R1DVD]

baka naman di ganun kataas ang tubo kaya nila discouraged
pero pareho tayo ng situation several months ago, may nabasa rin ako online na sirain daw 1912.  i did however checked the manufacturing date before purchasing.  can't really comment re: aftersales service, as i never had problems with my previous 1509 and this 1912 (crossing fingers ).
re: ntfs not really sure kasi iphone and 8gb flash driver palang nagagmit ko sa usb ng denon.

Why check the manufacturing date? Were there reports of certain batches being more prone to developing defects?

[ninjababez®]

Why check the manufacturing date?

sabi kasi nila sirain nga daw ang 1912, kaya nag check ako online.

Were there reports of certain batches being more prone to developing defects?

yes nung nagcheck ako online yung mga unang labas daw

[kawboy]

I auditioned the 1912 today.  I plugged in a 500 GB external HDD with flacs (NTFS-formatted) and the Denon failed to recognize the HDD.   I plugged the same HDD to an Onkyo 609 and the FLAC files played flawlessly.  Di ba talaga kaya ng Denon ang external HDD, or is it because the HDD is NTFS-formatted? 

I really like to buy the 1912 because of airplay and MultEQ XT.  But I'm a bit worried because 2 retailers sort of discouraged me from getting a Denon dahil either sirain daw or pangit ang after-sales service.  In fact, I went to an AV store today and was told that they don't have stock of 1912.  They have 1 daw pero returned item due to defective subwoofer out.  I hope isolated case lang ito.  Can Denon owners share their experience with Denon after-sales service.   I plan to buy a receiver within the week and Im leaning towards the Denon 1912 (other options are Onkyo 609/709).

Kung sa sirain, di naman siguro.

pero once na masira. palpak talaga. si Pure Digital yung humahawak ng repairs. kahit saan mo dalhin, dun binabagsak. I went back 5 times para sa backjob. di pa rin ok hanggang ngayon, sumuko na ako.
kasi tuwing dinadala ko ruon. irerepair nila, icha charge ka sa parts. tapos sasabihin, no labor charge na. eh dapat lang, kaya nga backjob e. last visit ko dun, pumutok pa rin after using 5x, eh, nasa 2k or more yung binayad ko sa parts replacement nung ika limang backjob ko. nag give up na ko. that is 5 backjobs in a span of a year. kahit anong pakiusap ko na silipin ng mabuti, di pa rin ginagawa e.

ayoko ngang isipin na yung backjob is their way of getting after sales profits.
They couldn't solve the root cause of the problem. yung huling punta ko, may kasabayan ako, backjob din yung kanya.

[ninjababez®]

bro kawboy anong pyesa daw ang sira?
mukhang lemon yun nakuha mo receiver bro.  

[nogie]

Pure Digital yon rin ba yong Repair Shop  ng Onkyo (Toyama) at Pioneer sa West Ave.?

Kung sa sirain, di naman siguro.

pero once na masira. palpak talaga. si Pure Digital yung humahawak ng repairs. kahit saan mo dalhin, dun binabagsak. I went back 5 times para sa backjob. di pa rin ok hanggang ngayon, sumuko na ako.
kasi tuwing dinadala ko ruon. irerepair nila, icha charge ka sa parts. tapos sasabihin, no labor charge na. eh dapat lang, kaya nga backjob e. last visit ko dun, pumutok pa rin after using 5x, eh, nasa 2k or more yung binayad ko sa parts replacement nung ika limang backjob ko. nag give up na ko. that is 5 backjobs in a span of a year. kahit anong pakiusap ko na silipin ng mabuti, di pa rin ginagawa e.

ayoko ngang isipin na yung backjob is their way of getting after sales profits.
They couldn't solve the root cause of the problem. yung huling punta ko, may kasabayan ako, backjob din yung kanya.

[[r0n1n]]

Kung sa sirain, di naman siguro.

pero once na masira. palpak talaga. si Pure Digital yung humahawak ng repairs. kahit saan mo dalhin, dun binabagsak. I went back 5 times para sa backjob. di pa rin ok hanggang ngayon, sumuko na ako.
kasi tuwing dinadala ko ruon. irerepair nila, icha charge ka sa parts. tapos sasabihin, no labor charge na. eh dapat lang, kaya nga backjob e. last visit ko dun, pumutok pa rin after using 5x, eh, nasa 2k or more yung binayad ko sa parts replacement nung ika limang backjob ko. nag give up na ko. that is 5 backjobs in a span of a year. kahit anong pakiusap ko na silipin ng mabuti, di pa rin ginagawa e.

ayoko ngang isipin na yung backjob is their way of getting after sales profits.
They couldn't solve the root cause of the problem. yung huling punta ko, may kasabayan ako, backjob din yung kanya.

so sorry about your story, pero wala na bang warranty sa shop yun? Or kahit sa shop mo dalahin e sa Pure Digital pa din nila ipapagawa? 1912 ba yung sa yo sir?

[kawboy]

bro kawboy anong pyesa daw ang sira?
mukhang lemon yun nakuha mo receiver bro.  

they kept changing the transistor. pero kako, wala duon ang problema, may pinagmumulan kako yun.
di naman siya lemon, I bought it 6 years ago, kay Manong Sonny Tuazon pa. no problem, served me very well. until yun nga...
ang diagnosis nila, naihian ng daga, pero kako, wala ritong daga. likely itong bunso kong 2 year old ang may sala.
una, sa may Mindanao Ave. ko dinala, backjob #1, tapos dun ko na pinickup kay Pure Digital, then ayun na, sunod sunod na backjob. puro halos < 6x lang ang gamit in between. na trauma na nga ako tuwing iswi switch on ko e. yun kasi yung instance na may pumuputok, pero pag On na siya, oks na...  hanggang sa next gamit,

Pure Digital yon rin ba yong Repair Shop  ng Onkyo (Toyama) at Pioneer sa West Ave.?

not sure about Onkyo, pwede rin siguro. pero I'm not sure.

so sorry about your story, pero wala na bang warranty sa shop yun? Or kahit sa shop mo dalahin e sa Pure Digital pa din nila ipapagawa? 1912 ba yung sa yo sir?

Mine is an old 2105, seldom used, siguro avg. of 10x a year.
pero nung naihian daw ng anak ko, ayun. di na nila maayos ayos.
it was really frustrating coz I have to come from Alabang pa.

they just keep changing the transistor, pero kako, kung di nila maayos yung ugat nung nagcacause ng short, puputok at puputok pa rin yung transistor at 950 ata bawat transistor.
nung huling punta ko, I told them kung may iba pa bang pwedeng gumawa maliban sa kanila, kasi di sila marurunong mag ayos. I really told them that out of frustration. wala daw. sila lang talaga.
tinanong ko din na sabihin lang kung di na kaya ayusin, di ko na ipapaayos.
kaya pa rin daw. pero olats pa rin. putok ulit sa 3rd o 4th use ko.

Then I called to inform them na pumutok ulit. pinababalik ulit sa akin.
kung di nila nakaya ng ilang beses, would I still expect them to be able to resolve it? hindi di ba?
so I asked for a diff. repair center. wala daw talaga. when I insisted. tinuro ako sa Audio World.
natawa nga ako kasi I know Joey, Jason and the rest of the gang.

when I went there mid last week, natawa nga sila, kasi dun daw nila ako dapat ituturo... pabalik sa Pure Digital, kasi dun din daw nila kukunin yung piyesa. kinuwento ko yung nangyari at kako, subukan lang nila kung kaya, kung hindi. hindi na.
outside opinion kumbaga, pero a more trustworthy one as far as Im concerned.
and hopefully, sila maka resolve.

[ninjababez®]

kainis nga yan bro kawboy.
nasubukan mo na ibang voltage regulator, or rekta sa outlet?

[kawboy]

Oo bro.

Stac gamit ko dati. pero when I moved here sa muntinlupa,
I settled on a surge protector... naka 3 channel setup lang naman ako, at di naman ako malakas magpatugtog.
it was fine for 2 years, hanggang sa naihian nga, nagsimula na yung sumpa...

so ayun, Ok naman talaga Denon, ingatan niyo lang na wag masira.

[ninjababez®]

Oo bro.

Stac gamit ko dati. pero when I moved here sa muntinlupa,
I settled on a surge protector... naka 3 channel setup lang naman ako, at di naman ako malakas magpatugtog.
it was fine for 2 years, hanggang sa naihian nga, nagsimula na yung sumpa...

so ayun, Ok naman talaga Denon, ingatan niyo lang na wag masira.

thanks sa advice bro, sana nga hindi lemon itong bago receiver ko 

[james16]

same here... sana tumagal sya tulad ng previous hk receiver ko.

[ferdinand]

Almost daming reklamo sa denon, itong  nabili  kong denon 887 ang dami ding problema.

may sumpong. hehehe

[♡ lvcdg23™ ✌]

Parang nakakatakot tuloy bumili online 

[mandyb]

Can Denon owners share their experience with Denon after-sales service.   I plan to buy a receiver within the week and Im leaning towards the Denon 1912 (other options are Onkyo 609/709).

Bro, i have nothing to share about after sales service although you read through some cases in this thread. So far, 3311 for a little over a year and a 2808 for 3.5 years have not left their spot (pwera usog) since. i hope it stays that way.

[AppleMan]

Mine is an old 2105, seldom used, siguro avg. of 10x a year.
pero nung naihian daw ng anak ko, ayun. di na nila maayos ayos.
it was really frustrating coz I have to come from Alabang pa.

they just keep changing the transistor, pero kako, kung di nila maayos yung ugat nung nagcacause ng short, puputok at puputok pa rin yung transistor at 950 ata bawat transistor.
nung huling punta ko, I told them kung may iba pa bang pwedeng gumawa maliban sa kanila, kasi di sila marurunong mag ayos. I really told them that out of frustration. wala daw. sila lang talaga.
tinanong ko din na sabihin lang kung di na kaya ayusin, di ko na ipapaayos.
kaya pa rin daw. pero olats pa rin. putok ulit sa 3rd o 4th use ko.

Then I called to inform them na pumutok ulit. pinababalik ulit sa akin.
kung di nila nakaya ng ilang beses, would I still expect them to be able to resolve it? hindi di ba?
so I asked for a diff. repair center. wala daw talaga. when I insisted. tinuro ako sa Audio World.
natawa nga ako kasi I know Joey, Jason and the rest of the gang.

when I went there mid last week, natawa nga sila, kasi dun daw nila ako dapat ituturo... pabalik sa Pure Digital, kasi dun din daw nila kukunin yung piyesa. kinuwento ko yung nangyari at kako, subukan lang nila kung kaya, kung hindi. hindi na.
outside opinion kumbaga, pero a more trustworthy one as far as Im concerned.
and hopefully, sila maka resolve.

Brader @Kawboy

meron ngang ibang cause yan di siguro nila nilinis maigi yung naihian sa bandang ampli board o pwede din na yung kinakabit nila made in china na parts madaling uminit yung TRANSISTOR pag made in china anong number po nung transistor na pinapalitan? baka di din nila tinetesting ng matagalan after na maikabit yung parts na bago. Kapag ginagamit nyo ba wala ba kayo kakaibang naririnig na tunog like ugong, distorted sound etc. Sa malamang yung balancing ng voltage ng ampli yung TRIMMER baka natuluan ng ihi at nag-cha change na ng value habang ginagamit nyo pag di kasi nag-balance ang voltage ng ampli which is yung TRIMMER ang nagco-control medyo makakarinig ka ng ugong dyan at iinit na yang POWER TRANSISTOR dun na madadale yan at isa pa kung MADE in CHINA yung parts na nilalagay naku paulit-ulit nga na masisira yan subok ko na yan sa mga AMPLI na pang mobile pag-CHINA kinabit na POWER TRANSISTOR ilang oras lang o kaya minuto lang sibak agad yang TRANSISTOR...

[riven319]

Hi guys,

don't know if this has been posted before...

to those with old denon units xx09/x89 this thread may be worth a read  just sharing...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1177104

[staind01]

built-in na ba ang wi-fi sa 1912 o kelangan pa ng wi-fi dongle?

if kelangan pa, anong gamit nyo?

[kawboy]

Brader @Kawboy

meron ngang ibang cause yan di siguro nila nilinis maigi yung naihian sa bandang ampli board o pwede din na yung kinakabit nila made in china na parts madaling uminit yung TRANSISTOR pag made in china anong number po nung transistor na pinapalitan? baka di din nila tinetesting ng matagalan after na maikabit yung parts na bago. Kapag ginagamit nyo ba wala ba kayo kakaibang naririnig na tunog like ugong, distorted sound etc. Sa malamang yung balancing ng voltage ng ampli yung TRIMMER baka natuluan ng ihi at nag-cha change na ng value habang ginagamit nyo pag di kasi nag-balance ang voltage ng ampli which is yung TRIMMER ang nagco-control medyo makakarinig ka ng ugong dyan at iinit na yang POWER TRANSISTOR dun na madadale yan at isa pa kung MADE in CHINA yung parts na nilalagay naku paulit-ulit nga na masisira yan subok ko na yan sa mga AMPLI na pang mobile pag-CHINA kinabit na POWER TRANSISTOR ilang oras lang o kaya minuto lang sibak agad yang TRANSISTOR...

salamat sa tulong brader,
tingin ko, tama yung unang sinabi mo, na di nila nalinis ng maigi.
yung huling apat na balik ko, yun ang ini insist ko, na linisin maigi. olats pa rin.
pag pinapatugtog, walang problema kahit 8 hrs straight.

ang problema, pag ipo-power on.
dun lagi may pumuputok. oras na nakapasok na. maayos na.

[Lancito]

IMHO, The higher models of Denon (made in Japan) are definitely more reliable.  Same goes for other brands.  I think the more expensive option of buying the higher models (longer lifespan) will pay off eventually.

[-lee-]

ano pong speakers ang gamit nyo mga 1912 owners? pakisabi na rin po kung ano impression nyo, warm, bright, etc.. salamat po

[ninjababez®]

ano pong speakers ang gamit nyo mga 1912 owners? pakisabi na rin po kung ano impression nyo, warm, bright, etc.. salamat po

SVS SCS fronts (neutral), denon 1912 (bit warm) = preference ko