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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #60 on: Aug 30, 2005 at 01:32 PM »
hehe yup i know mura na po yung hk na yun...

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #61 on: Sep 06, 2005 at 08:19 AM »
ano po ba yung cheapest AVR na may optical input ?  :-\
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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #62 on: Sep 06, 2005 at 08:29 AM »
ano po ba yung cheapest AVR na may optical input ?  :-\

Optical input is a standard w/ today's AVR's.

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #63 on: Sep 06, 2005 at 09:29 AM »
not all sir, especially those generic ones like sakura and konzert, ung nabili ko walang optical/coaxial input ...

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #64 on: Sep 06, 2005 at 09:31 AM »
not all sir, especially those generic ones like sakura and konzert, ung nabili ko walang optical/coaxial input ...

Ay sorry po :-[ :) Thanks for the correction, leomar :)

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #65 on: Sep 06, 2005 at 03:50 PM »
I guess the cheapest AVR with Coaxial or Optical out is the Yammie RX-450 ??  ???

mahal e  :-\
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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #66 on: Sep 06, 2005 at 05:27 PM »
A digital toslink or coax input indicates that the receiver has internal DAC circuits to convert digital to analog signals.  I supposed the added circuitry will increase the price tags of generic brands.

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newbie need help in choosing an amplifier/reeiver..thanks
« Reply #67 on: Dec 10, 2005 at 11:43 AM »
im wud like to buy an amplifier/receiver. dahil tight ang budget im choosing between those being sold at buy an sell section of this forum pls help me in choosing between the  following..

1. onkyo tx sr501
2. yamaha rx v350
3. yamaha rx v440
4. yamaha rx v800
5. may nakalimutan ba akong ilagay?

thanks guys in advance
 :)
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Re: newbie need help in choosing an amplifier/reeiver..thanks
« Reply #68 on: Dec 11, 2005 at 12:50 AM »
bro kung onkyo vs yamaha,id get the yamaha. Now for the specific model,it all depends on your demand, i think the 350 is the latest among the 3 models you listed but not sure if it compares with the 800. :-[

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Re: newbie need help in choosing an amplifier/reeiver..thanks
« Reply #69 on: Dec 11, 2005 at 02:13 AM »
im wud like to buy an amplifier/receiver. dahil tight ang budget im choosing between those being sold at buy an sell section of this forum pls help me in choosing between the  following..

1. onkyo tx sr501
2. yamaha rx v350
3. yamaha rx v440
4. yamaha rx v800
5. may nakalimutan ba akong ilagay?

thanks guys in advance
 :)

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Re: newbie need help in choosing an amplifier/reeiver..thanks
« Reply #70 on: Dec 11, 2005 at 07:36 AM »
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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #71 on: Dec 25, 2005 at 08:21 PM »
question lang po mga sirs...yung optical na connection sa mga receivers, connection ba yung between sa mga speakers and receivers or connection yun between sa receiver and player mo? mas okay ba kung naka optical connection ka?

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #72 on: Dec 26, 2005 at 12:05 PM »
question lang po mga sirs...yung optical na connection sa mga receivers, connection ba yung between sa mga speakers and receivers or connection yun between sa receiver and player mo? mas okay ba kung naka optical connection ka?

Sir, fiber optic cable ang gagamitin mo for optical between receiver and player. mas okey ang optical dahil 100% conductivity ang info exchange between receiver and player at ito rin ang ginagaimit para maka pag produce at ma decode ang dolby digital, DTS at iba pang encoded materials, use fiber optic cables to achive your receivers maximum performance.
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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #73 on: Jan 02, 2006 at 02:08 PM »
sir hanns,

mas ok ba talaga fiber optic kaysa digital coax?

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #74 on: Jan 02, 2006 at 02:40 PM »
sir hanns,

mas ok ba talaga fiber optic kaysa digital coax?

Sir, for me mas okey ang fiber optic wag lang mapupuncture or ma badly deform ang cable. it uses light impulses which is much faster at integrated of corse syempre "speed of light". unlike sa coax although digital rin ito pero meron minimal degration coz it uses electric impluses. but this 2 manner of data interchange is not so much in difference.
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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #75 on: Jan 03, 2006 at 01:47 PM »
question lang po mga sirs...yung optical na connection sa mga receivers, connection ba yung between sa mga speakers and receivers or connection yun between sa receiver and player mo? mas okay ba kung naka optical connection ka?


addition lang. light speed is much faster than wire speed. but optical cable is more prone to damage bcoz of its flexural limitations.

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #76 on: Jan 03, 2006 at 10:07 PM »
mga sirs, may tanong lang po ako...anong pinag kaiba ng speaker wire na transparent na binebenta sa hardware dun sa speaker wire na transparent na binebenta sa audiophile? syempre mas mahal yung per meter sa audiophile.

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #77 on: Jan 17, 2006 at 11:40 AM »
Does the hardware variety read oxygen free as well? Because the audiophile ones do. Even the cheapest ones. Sorry havent seen the hardware variety e.

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #78 on: Jan 23, 2006 at 02:48 PM »
mga sirs, may tanong lang po ako...anong pinag kaiba ng speaker wire na transparent na binebenta sa hardware dun sa speaker wire na transparent na binebenta sa audiophile? syempre mas mahal yung per meter sa audiophile.

(OT?)

Mas pogi ang high-end wires with transparent insulation.  Ginagaya lang ito ng mga cheap wires, kaya gumagawa na rin sila ng sarili nilang transparent insulation.

Ang problema lang sa cheap wires, low quality ang mga transparent insulation nila.  Pag nagkaroon ng chemical reaction between the copper wire and the insulation, nagkakaroon ng amag ang wire.

Ang advice ko, kung bibili ka ng transparent insulation, sa mahal ka na para tumagal (malaking hassle kasi ang pag-rewire lalo kung mahaba ang wire length).  Kung gusto mo ng mura na pareho lang ang performance, kuha ka ng non-transparent insulation -- hindi nga lang kasing-pogi.

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#alllowcost
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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #79 on: Jan 24, 2006 at 02:47 PM »
i agree with barrister,

in the end, it is all about sound. i am sure if the holy grail of speaker wires happened to come in an awful package, we would learn to live with it.

incidentally, those wires at phasetron arent bad for starters. and i am certain raon would sell them cheaper if you know your way around that area. make sure you get decent wires so you wont have to replace them after hearing a better performing, but only slightly more expensive variety. i think it is a very inexpensive tweak. suggest you get better than average wires so that when you uprgrade your other gear, you wont have a double expense on new wires. anyway, anywhere you go, you will be using them.

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newbe question (AV RECEIVER)
« Reply #80 on: Jan 26, 2006 at 08:15 AM »
Anyone can help me to choose a av receiver????

Di kasi ko makapili between denon avr 1905 or onkyo tx-sr503 or harman kardon avr235.....

pls me to choose...

TNX ALOT...

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a/v receiver suggestions
« Reply #81 on: Apr 17, 2006 at 09:21 AM »
hi! i am planning to build a 5.1 system which would be used mainly for music. my source would be a pioneer dvd recorder and my computer. give me suggestions on a/v reciever which i should look for. budget: let's say between 15k to 30k. tnx.

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #82 on: May 04, 2006 at 02:02 PM »
mag pioneer ka na rin para sa budget mo maganda na ang mabibile mo

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #83 on: May 10, 2006 at 11:48 AM »
what are the major considerations for an av receiver to be future-proof?

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #84 on: May 10, 2006 at 04:22 PM »
If you're more into music, you can already get an HK with that budget. What speakers are you planning to use?
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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #85 on: May 11, 2006 at 11:50 AM »
what are the major considerations for an av receiver to be future-proof?

The way I see it, future proofing a receiver is quite limited and can be a gamble.   I am almost certain entry level receivers can't be future proofed.  But there may be exceptions.  One easy sign is the ability of the receiver to process firmware upgrades via a computer-typical terminal like an RS-232 at the back.  Some may just require a CD upload.  Upgrades on chip performance or firmware patches to solve certain quirks are quite common. Or putting in more soundfield DSP functions.  Such upgrades can often be done only within a short time, maybe a year or two at the most.  But not always on audio decoding capabilities.   Some perhaps.  Like upgrading from regular DTS to DTS-Neo.  After that,  I doubt if new audio decoding formats can be supported with those upgrades.  It may be easy to upgrade an old DTS-enabled receiver to accept DTS 24/96 or DTS-Neo.  But I doubt if the same receiver can accept firmware upgrades to the latest HD-DTS.  The data volumes in the new formats are just too immense for older chips to handle.  So it seems to me future proofing can be done, but not beyond 2-3 years from manufacture date.   That doesn't mean though you can no longer use the receiver after that.  Ofcourse you can, but you may not benefit from the newer formats.   Even 15 year old prologic receivers can still work fine these days.   But even those upgradeable flagship prologic receivers could no longer be upgraded to DD and DTS encoding abilities. 

Since the time DD and DTS first became commercially available thru DVDs, sometime late in 97, if i recall right, we're really looking at only 9 years.  Around half-way thru, the more compute intensive SACD and DVD-A came along.  Receivers took some time before they can handle the SACD bass management functions.  And I doubt if there were firmware upgrades the allowed older receivers to handle SACD.  These days, only mid-priced to flaghship models have bass management functions to handle SACD via firewire, I-link or D-link connections with similarly equipped players.  No receiver firmware upgrade  allowed any old DD/DTS receiver to handle SACD processing.  You just have to get a new receiver if you want that function.

We are now on the threshold of HD-DVD and Blu-Ray with newer audio formats like HD-DTS and Dolby TrueHD.  Within the year, I am sure new receivers with these audio formats will appear.  They will certainly make even a flagship Yamaha Z9 or the flagship Denon A1XV obsolete.   ;D  So it seems getting a new receiver at this time may not be the right time if future-proofing is a priority. 
« Last Edit: May 11, 2006 at 12:19 PM by av_phile1 »

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #86 on: May 11, 2006 at 11:58 AM »
This new standards are confusing me ... Is there no end to this?

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #87 on: May 11, 2006 at 12:08 PM »
None. whatsoever.   Technology won't stand still.  But it's really up to you to define your limits.  Like I've defined mine to stop at 5.1 channels with just DD/DTS/ and DVD-A.  No more SACD, DTS NEO, prologic iix, etc.

But maybe within the next 2 years I can splurge on a major upgrade for HD audio.   ;D
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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #88 on: May 11, 2006 at 12:13 PM »
I have mine similar to yours ...

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Re: Choosing a Receiver
« Reply #89 on: May 16, 2006 at 11:14 AM »
This new standards are confusing me ... Is there no end to this?

Technology will never stop. The best thing to do in considering an av receiver is to determine first what kind of application you want.  There's no such thing as future-proofing kase continuous ang R&D sa mga manufacturers especially in a very close world of competition.  The important thing is determine your budget, go for the respected name in multi-channel applications like Denon or Marantz (iisang group lang halos ito D&M International), Rotel, Pioneer Elite, Integra, Arcam...etc.  Second, dapat match ang sistema (program material & loudspeakers) mo sa receiver na bibilhin, you have a good receiver but it didn't matches your loudspeakers then useless, sayang ang pera.  So better to audition, see, hear and feel the difference then buy the best from the rest. 
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