Topic: Choosing an AV Receiver

[dave]

Which brand receiver do you think is best, based on reliability?  That is, which brand is least likely to be a lemon out of the box, and continue to work without breaking down for years to come?

[Blackstar]

good afternoon mga master. bago lang po ako sa hifi hobby/interest. i just need your expert opinion sana. tanong ko lang kung ano pipiliin nyo without considering budget if given these choices: Onkyo TX-SR307 or HT-R560. I'm going to use it mainly for my home theater pc with my 1080p lcdtv. we only have a small condo so i think that should also be put into consideration. for starters, i already have a wharfedale wh-2 surround and center speakers. i guess i will need front and subs for this setup. your expert opinions are greatly appreciated.

[jerix]

HK 160 or Pioneer VSX 920?

Price
Hk - 25,500
Pio- 27,500

[ninjababez®]

HK 160 or Pioneer VSX 920?

Price
Hk - 25,500
Pio- 27,500

those two and onkyo 508 were my choices.
got the onkyo 508 though, because of the front high option.  mark (avshop), has high remarks for HK 160) 

[cianzepol]

those two and onkyo 508 were my choices.
got the onkyo 508 though, because of the front high option.  mark (avshop), has high remarks for HK 160) 

mnagkano kuha mo paps sa onkyo 508 mo?

ano speakers mo?

[ninjababez®]

mnagkano kuha mo paps sa onkyo 508 mo?

ano speakers mo?

under 25k for 12 mos SRP.
using 6 a-audio genesis for surrounds, 2 a-audio tangband sealed for front height and 1 a-audio exodus for center,  and 15" sealed a-audio sub 

[cianzepol]

san mo nabili paps?

better than hk 160 po ba?

[ninjababez®]

san mo nabili paps?
better than hk 160 po ba?

got it from vic.
for the 2nd question, subjective 
in my case, im more inclined in getting a receiver with features that i want. 
let's just say if youre into music, concerts HK wins but for overall performance and features, onkyo won (atleast for the two choices i had) 

[cianzepol]

may auto calibration ba sya paps?
tpos yung menu nya lumilitaw po sa tv?


yang dalawa po kasi pinagpipilian ko e..
sensya na po at matanong..

[ninjababez®]

may auto calibration ba sya paps?
tpos yung menu nya lumilitaw po sa tv?

YUP!  as long as connected hdmi out from receiver to hdmi input ng tv.
after 2 days of using (regular use and calibration lang) it di ko na kailangan yung GUI sa tv. 
madali lang kabisaduhin ang menu, unlike denon ko dati halos 1 week na araw araw na tweaking bago ko nakabisado. 

yang dalawa po kasi pinagpipilian ko e..
sensya na po at matanong..

wala naman talo sa dalawa eh, kung ano lang kailangan mo talaga. 
sakin lang kasi una, intriga ako sa front height feature.  so far satisfied naman ako sa feature na ito, minsan ino-OFF ko rin pag di maganda pakinggan (depende kasi and subjective). 
atleast may option ka gamitin or hinde. 

[ninjababez®]

pansin ko lang, parang mas maganda yung denon 1509 ko pagdating sa audessey.
 

[Onkyo606]

pansin ko lang, parang mas maganda yung denon 1509 ko pagdating sa audessey.
 

it should be the same technology brader, maybe the difference lies on the SQ of the hardware itself. another thing, Audyssey 2EQ, MultEQ and MultEQ XT wuould provide different results, the XT providing the best and superior result among the three AFAIK.

[cianzepol]

ano paps gamit mong speakers?
naka voltage regulator ka paps?

[ninjababez®]

it should be the same technology brader, maybe the difference lies on the SQ of the hardware itself. another thing, Audyssey 2EQ, MultEQ and MultEQ XT wuould provide different results, the XT providing the best and superior result among the three AFAIK.

ahh that's why.  2EQ kasi ang gamit ko sa onkyo while MultEQ sa denon. 
i dont mind it though, konting adjustments lang naman

[ninjababez®]

ano paps gamit mong speakers?
naka voltage regulator ka paps?

im using 8 a-audio genesis for satellites, 1 a-audio exodus for center and 15" a-audion sealed sub 
20k + for all 

and yes bro naka voltage regulator ako 

[cianzepol]

im using 8 a-audio genesis for satellites, 1 a-audio exodus for center and 15" a-audion sealed sub 
20k + for all 

and yes bro naka voltage regulator ako 

ilang watts voltage regulator mo paps?

[ninjababez®]

ilang watts voltage regulator mo paps?

using a servo type maldol 1000 watts which is loaded with a 50" plasma, HTPC, sub and receiver.

[jerix]

Ninjababez, ano ba ang review mo sa music reproduction ng Onkyo? Harsh or medyo matining din ba, or warm lang siya? thanks 

[ninjababez®]

Ninjababez, ano ba ang review mo sa music reproduction ng Onkyo? Harsh or medyo matining din ba, or warm lang siya? thanks 

using pure audio feature/settings (2 channel direct only), i would say it's warm. 

[jerix]

using pure audio feature/settings (2 channel direct only), i would say it's warm. 

So multi-channel has different sound quality? thanks again

[Clondalkin]

I spent some time among the 608, the 1911 and the 767 last Friday night.  Wala akong marinig na malaking pagkakaiba (which is good because their prices are practically the same) but I found the 1911's built-in USB port to be very convenient for Ipod/MP3 connection.

[jerix]

so bro clondalkin -- how do you find the 608 in its multi-channel sound production on music? I am about to get the 608. the other  receiver i am eyeing for if not the 608 is the pioneer 920 which also has bountiful features like the 608, but lower in price. thanks 

[Clondalkin]

so bro clondalkin -- how do you find the 608 in its multi-channel sound production on music? I am about to get the 608. the other  receiver i am eyeing for if not the 608 is the pioneer 920 which also has bountiful features like the 608, but lower in price. thanks  

It still sounds as "HTish" as any of the AVRs less than $1,000 Ive heard.   "Matigas ang tunog" bale compared to a dedicated hi-fi music set-up...and also, "HT" speakers kasi yung nakakabit dahil dun sa kabilang section ng Bic Camera Ginza where I played around, puro naman hi-fi demo equipment (amps, players, speakers) - ibang-iba talaga yung signature ng tunog.

But since the 608 was awarded the HiVi 2010 gold for Best AVR "Under JPY100,000" (paneled by AV professionals in Japan), then it must indeed have exceptional performance for its price bracket.  When I asked Bic Camera's AV demo pro if 608 is indeed a recommended model, he pointed me to the 1008 and the 3067 instead.   hehehe.  Oh well.   Ibig sabihin, kung maselan ka talaga sa musical/aural signature, you should spend over $1,000 on the AVR.

[ninjababez®]

So multi-channel has different sound quality? thanks again

hi jerix, late reply but this might help .. a bit
it is almost the same, let's just say a notch higher. 
just replaced my bookshelf with a floorstander, will post observation prolly next week after running audessey.
medyo bright nga lang yung floorstander 

[Nelson de Leon]

hi jerix, late reply but this might help .. a bit
it is almost the same, let's just say a notch higher. 
just replaced my bookshelf with a floorstander, will post observation prolly next week after running audessey.
medyo bright nga lang yung floorstander 

I'm sure kayang i-tame ng Audyssey yan. Ano ang FS mo?

[ninjababez®]

I'm sure kayang i-tame ng Audyssey yan. Ano ang FS mo?

hi bro!
sa pure audio lang naman sya bright. 
pano ba i-tame ito via audyssey?
btw im using the floorstander i got from a-audio raffle tablette 6.5 FS. 
maganda naman sya kaso not my type lang talaga when i comes to music playback pagdating sa highs
buti nalang pang HT ko lang, pero syempre pagnakabili na ng ipod dock or maisipan mag music mas maganda parin pure audio.  a prologic music di naman sya bright, weird   

[Nelson de Leon]

hi bro!
sa pure audio lang naman sya bright. 
pano ba i-tame ito via audyssey?
btw im using the floorstander i got from a-audio raffle tablette 6.5 FS. 
maganda naman sya kaso not my type lang talaga when i comes to music playback pagdating sa highs
buti nalang pang HT ko lang, pero syempre pagnakabili na ng ipod dock or maisipan mag music mas maganda parin pure audio.  a prologic music di naman sya bright, weird   

I'm also using A-audio for my HT. Hindi siya bright for me. Clone BS ang akin. You can have it tweaked kay anthony. Or put an L-pad pot for the tweeters kung type mo. Si Anthony pa!

[ninjababez®]

I'm also using A-audio for my HT. Hindi siya bright for me. Clone BS ang akin. You can have it tweaked kay anthony. Or put an L-pad pot for the tweeters kung type mo. Si Anthony pa!

kakahiya free lang ito eh 
pwede kaya palitan ng velodyne tweeter 

[Nelson de Leon]

kakahiya free lang ito eh 
pwede kaya palitan ng velodyne tweeter 

Pwede din. Basta swak sa butas. But IMHO, changing the tweeters might mean changing the xover points & attenuation (if there is).

[ninjababez®]

Pwede din. Basta swak sa butas. But IMHO, changing the tweeters might mean changing the xover points & attenuation (if there is).

mukhang di kasya hehehe
bili nalang ako separate amp for my genesis for pure audio. 
wala kasi speaker A & B selection