Topic: Choosing an AV Receiver

[Timithekid]

ahh..sir what do you mean by "ma overdrive"?...question po ulit...if a bookshelf speaker are rated 150watts..does it means 75watts per bookshelf speaker?thx po

Overdrive means your receiver has more power than your speakers can handle and you are listening at very high volumes, medyo mahirap naman magawa yan eh, unless nakapower amp ka and you are driving very small bs speakers. Kung rated at 150w rms per piece po yon.  I havent come across a spec that gives value for both put together.

[defined]

ahhh..then it means 150watts per piece of bookshelf speaker?thx

[G-Racer]

ahhh..then it means 150watts per piece of bookshelf speaker?thx

Its better mas mataas ang power rating nang receiver kesa sa power rating nang speaker needed to drive it. A speaker that requires high power handling when paired with a low power receiver may result to clipping if used at very high volume. This might damage both.

[Timithekid]

Its better mas mataas ang power rating nang receiver kesa sa power rating nang speaker needed to drive it. A speaker that requires high power handling when paired with a low power receiver may result to clipping if used at very high volume. This might damage both.

Preferably if they can be rated the same thats ideal, if your amp is more powerful than your speakers its fine as long as you don't overdrive naman, if amp power is lower ok lang naman din if its power is close enough to the rms rating of the speaker. E.g. 80w/ch driving 100w speakers. Safe ka na dyan kahit reference levels pa volume mo.  The protect feature of your receiver should kick in naman so i think you can experiment pushing your equipment...but i will never do that to mine, i won't tempt fate. 

[defined]

hmmm...it means that a bookshelf rated 150watts like polk rtia3 means have output power of 300watts combining the two?gnun po ba yun?thx...

[Timithekid]

hmmm...it means that a bookshelf rated 150watts like polk rtia3 means have output power of 300watts combining the two?gnun po ba yun?thx...

I'm not sure why you want to combine the two figures...those are two separate speakers that need to be driven by separate channels.

[defined]

hmm.. i'm just only want to clarify thats all and learn some info about it...well as you said its per piece right?thats why i said that its output 300watts...nevertheless i just want to know the total output power of my system thats why i ask this....thank you..

[Timithekid]

hmm.. i'm just only want to clarify thats all and learn some info about it...well as you said its per piece right?thats why i said that its output 300watts...nevertheless i just want to know the total output power of my system thats why i ask this....thank you..

I think this is something you might like to read since you want to learn about your system output.

http://stereos.about.com/od/stereoscience/a/amppower.htm

[ninjababez®]

hmm.. i'm just only want to clarify thats all and learn some info about it...well as you said its per piece right?thats why i said that its output 300watts...nevertheless i just want to know the total output power of my system thats why i ask this....thank you..

like what gracer said

Its better mas mataas ang power rating nang receiver kesa sa power rating nang speaker needed to drive it. A speaker that requires high power handling when paired with a low power receiver may result to clipping if used at very high volume. This might damage both.

let me put it this way,
you can also use a weak receiver on a powerful speaker, as long as you dont push the receiver to its limit. (it will work, but it may not sound good sayang potential ng speaker)
you can use a very powerful receiver on weakly rated speaker as long as you do not overdrive it because of clipping.

the latter would be ideal

wait mo mga masters mag chime in di ako sanay magpaliwanag

[raider125jeigh]

pabiling popcorn....    

[markcrenz]

... A speaker that requires high power handling when paired with a low power receiver may result to clipping if used at very high volume. This might damage both.

a 50 watt receiver clipping its square waves out will surely run out of steam before its 200 watt speaker reaches its thermal and mechanical limits.

[ninjababez®]

pabiling popcorn....    

bakit anong papanoorin?

[m35ius]

finally got the approval of my wife.

which will be an ideal set up from these selections?

yamaha a-s500 & polk rti a3 or monitor audio bx2
yamaha r-s700 & polk rti a3 or monitor audio bx2
marantz pm6004 & polk rti a3 or monitor audio bx2

thanks in advance!!!

[raider125jeigh]

finally got the approval of my wife.

which will be an ideal set up from these selections?

yamaha a-s500 & polk rti a3 or monster audio bx2
yamaha r-s700 & polk rti a3 or monster audio bx2
marantz pm6004 & polk rti a3 or monster audio bx2

thanks in advance!!!

audition the pairings and see what suits your ear

[Timithekid]

finally got the approval of my wife.

which will be an ideal set up from these selections?

yamaha a-s500 & polk rti a3 or monster audio bx2
yamaha r-s700 & polk rti a3 or monster audio bx2
marantz pm6004 & polk rti a3 or monster audio bx2

thanks in advance!!!

1. ) What type of sound do you like? laid back? neutral? warm? if yes to either of the 3, you might not enjoy the RTi but if you want bright, slightly in your face type of sound, then the RTi ROCKS!
2.) Have you tried out any of the pairings?

Personally I like the yammy RTi pair.   but thats me, its better if you try them out yourself.  subok na sa mga suking tindahan...dami dyan na shop that is more than willing to set up an audition for you. Listening room, sights and sounds, avshop, sound and vision at marami pang iba!

enjoy the audition process...and let the headaches begin....

[♡ lvcdg23™ ✌]

finally got the approval of my wife.

which will be an ideal set up from these selections?

yamaha a-s500 & polk rti a3 or monster audio bx2
yamaha r-s700 & polk rti a3 or monster audio bx2
marantz pm6004 & polk rti a3 or monster audio bx2

thanks in advance!!!

Sir congrats on your future set up...
Just a correction po, its monitor audio po not monster

From your selection I think the Marantz and Rti A3 would blend well

[ninjababez®]

Sir congrats on your future set up...
Just a correction po, its monitor audio po not monster

From your selection I think the Marantz and Rti A3 would blend well

was about to ask kung knock off ba ng monitor audio yung monster audio, or kung gumagawa na ba ng speaker ang sikat na monster cable

[♡ lvcdg23™ ✌]

was about to ask kung knock off ba ng monitor audio yung monster audio, or kung gumagawa na ba ng speaker ang sikat na monster cable

[rthirtyfourgtr]

was about to ask kung knock off ba ng monitor audio yung monster audio, or kung gumagawa na ba ng speaker ang sikat na monster cable

they used to...

http://www.monstercable.com/lit/MANUL_THX_G1ls.pdf

[m35ius]

thanks for all the replies...

@raider125jeigh: will definitely do that.

@Timithekid:
1. ) What type of sound do you like? laid back? neutral? warm? if yes to either of the 3, you might not enjoy the RTi but if you want bright, slightly in your face type of sound, then the RTi ROCKS! -Based from this I think I might like the Rti, pakinggan ko muna pareho para makapagdecide =)

2.) Have you tried out any of the pairings? Will try to do that this weekend. Dito kasi ako naka-base sa u.s. kaya halos lahat ng shops per appointment pa ang audition.


@Louie_18: thanks!

[Timithekid]

aha! If you are in the u.s thats even better for you, your set up will be a lot cheaper!

Now that you mentioned bright, consider the klipsch reference series.  you might enjoy the horns.

[raider125jeigh]

aha! If you are in the u.s thats even better for you, your set up will be a lot cheaper!

Now that you mentioned bright, consider the klipsch reference series.  you might enjoy the horns.

horns + tube = sweet

[m35ius]

@Timithekid: thanks for the suggestion. any particular model from the klipsch reference series? i listen to music more than watching movies. sorry for the ot.

[Timithekid]

@Timithekid: thanks for the suggestion. any particular model from the klipsch reference series? i listen to music more than watching movies. sorry for the ot.

that will also depend on the amplifier sir, the higher end reference series are still very easy to drive but is of course at its best when powered properly. you can start with the 5 series and then work your way up depending on your taste, I have the RF 52 only because my power amp can maximize it, if i had a more powerful amp the 62 were available here in the Philippines I would have gone for those instead.  But if your preference is a bookshelf, try to find an RB - 81 II..you wont be disappointed.

[m35ius]

@Timithekid: thanks for the quick responses. as much as i want to buy floorstanders our apartment is not suited to have that kind of speakers our neighbors might report us immediately once i use them hehehe!!! i'll stick with bookshelfs for now, so i'll audition the rb61 II this weekend with the yamaha/marantz amp and the rb-81 II is out of my budget range.

[♡ lvcdg23™ ✌]

@Timithekid: thanks for the quick responses. as much as i want to buy floorstanders our apartment is not suited to have that kind of speakers our neighbors might report us immediately once i use them hehehe!!! i'll stick with bookshelfs for now, so i'll audition the rb61 II this weekend with the yamaha/marantz amp and the rb-81 II is out of my budget range.

Check also Denon sir... I think it will blend well with Klipsch...

[m35ius]

@ Louie_18: thanks will consider denon too.

now it's really starting to be difficult on what to buy hehehehe!!!

good thing there's pdvd =)

[m35ius]

@Louie_18: any specific denon model in mind?

[Timithekid]

1912 is good enough but if you want more power with the same features go 2312, that should suit your RB-61 II nicely. if you will add a power amp soon when you upgrade your speakers, get an AVR with preouts, the 3312 has that feature, and its also 7.2 capable.   

Kung big time ka like King Louie...4311 

[m35ius]

@Timithekid: thanks for stating the models. baka mabig-time ako ni misis kapag yun ang binili ko hehehe!!!