Topic: Choosing an AV Receiver

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Goodam mga sir. Wifey has decided to buy me a gift. Magturo lang daw ako. Woohoo I've been good this year. 
I'm looking at Marantz SR7007 or Yamaha RX-A1010
My current setup:
Receiver: Yamaha RXV671
Fronts: Maurdaunt Short Mezzo 8
Center: Maurdaunt Short Aviano 5 (will be replaced w/ Mezzo 5)
Surround: Maurdaunt Short Carnival 6 (any replacement suggestions?)
Sub: SVS PB12NSD
Any suggestions po mga sir, even outside my choices ok lang.. Gusto ko lang talaga sulitin itong sumpong ni misis.. Thanks and more power!

[Stagea]

Goodam mga sir. Wifey has decided to buy me a gift. Magturo lang daw ako. Woohoo I've been good this year. 
I'm looking at Marantz SR7007 or Yamaha RX-A1010
My current setup:
Receiver: Yamaha RXV671
Fronts: Maurdaunt Short Mezzo 8
Center: Maurdaunt Short Aviano 5 (will be replaced w/ Mezzo 5)
Surround: Maurdaunt Short Carnival 6 (any replacement suggestions?)
Sub: SVS PB12NSD
Any suggestions po mga sir, even outside my choices ok lang.. Gusto ko lang talaga sulitin itong sumpong ni misis.. Thanks and more power!

For surrounds, Mezzo 1 or Mezzo 2 should work just fine. If you like the sound of your speakers with your RX-V671, then it might be worthwhile to go for a higher model Yamaha. Otherwise, the SR7007 could definitely be considered.

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Thanks Stagea.. Actually, I posted the wrong Receiver, I have a Yamaha RXV567. So I guess, it's a big step up for the upgrade.. Again thanks for the input, I appreciate it..

[noelbantoc]

Goodam mga sir. Wifey has decided to buy me a gift. Magturo lang daw ako. Woohoo I've been good this year. 
I'm looking at Marantz SR7007 or Yamaha RX-A1010
My current setup:
Receiver: Yamaha RXV671
Fronts: Maurdaunt Short Mezzo 8
Center: Maurdaunt Short Aviano 5 (will be replaced w/ Mezzo 5)
Surround: Maurdaunt Short Carnival 6 (any replacement suggestions?)
Sub: SVS PB12NSD
Any suggestions po mga sir, even outside my choices ok lang.. Gusto ko lang talaga sulitin itong sumpong ni misis.. Thanks and more power!

try Anthem MRX500 if you like sir meron kami sa store at Audible Illusions (50D Timog QC)

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try Anthem MRX500 if you like sir meron kami sa store at Audible Illusions (50D Timog QC)

Thanks sir, I may drop by soon as I'm near ur shop.. I've read good things about MRX500, and looking forward for an audition..

[stevesonk]

Goodam mga sir. Wifey has decided to buy me a gift. Magturo lang daw ako. Woohoo I've been good this year. 
I'm looking at Marantz SR7007 or Yamaha RX-A1010
My current setup:
Receiver: Yamaha RXV671
Fronts: Maurdaunt Short Mezzo 8
Center: Maurdaunt Short Aviano 5 (will be replaced w/ Mezzo 5)
Surround: Maurdaunt Short Carnival 6 (any replacement suggestions?)
Sub: SVS PB12NSD
Any suggestions po mga sir, even outside my choices ok lang.. Gusto ko lang talaga sulitin itong sumpong ni misis.. Thanks and more power!

dagdagan mo ng emotiva xpa-5...!!!
kapag ayaw, swap mo misis mo ^_^
ehehehe joke lng po ^_^
nice setup you have there  ^_^

[freeks]

Hey guys,

Got a question, that I couldn't figure out by researching on the internet. Here's the details.

I have an external power amplifier and have a 2.0 speakers attached to it. Now I want to buy an AV Receiver so that I can play some HD movies on HT setup but I want to keep the ext. power amp + 2.0 speaker set-up for audio listening.

What kind of receiver should I get so that I can switch between HD watching and audio listening. Based on my research there are two ways to achieve this with an AVR, an AVR with a Zone2 out or Pre-Outs, but what I can't figure out is the difference between zone2 and pre-outs because theoretically they both achieved the same results driving a separate 2.0 speaker? or am I wrong?

Thanks

[Timithekid]

Hey guys,

Got a question, that I couldn't figure out by researching on the internet. Here's the details.

I have an external power amplifier and have a 2.0 speakers attached to it. Now I want to buy an AV Receiver so that I can play some HD movies on HT setup but I want to keep the ext. power amp + 2.0 speaker set-up for audio listening.

What kind of receiver should I get so that I can switch between HD watching and audio listening. Based on my research there are two ways to achieve this with an AVR, an AVR with a Zone2 out or Pre-Outs, but what I can't figure out is the difference between zone2 and pre-outs because theoretically they both achieved the same results driving a separate 2.0 speaker? or am I wrong?

Thanks

Sir if i understand your situation correctly, the only way you can use the power amp is if your avr has a pre-out, the zone 2 if i am not mistaken is still directly connected to your avr and not through your power amp.

Pero teka lang, yung power amp nyo po ba may volume control? If yes amp switcher po kailangan ninyo.

[dodie]

Hey guys,

Got a question, that I couldn't figure out by researching on the internet. Here's the details.

I have an external power amplifier and have a 2.0 speakers attached to it. Now I want to buy an AV Receiver so that I can play some HD movies on HT setup but I want to keep the ext. power amp + 2.0 speaker set-up for audio listening.

What kind of receiver should I get so that I can switch between HD watching and audio listening. Based on my research there are two ways to achieve this with an AVR, an AVR with a Zone2 out or Pre-Outs, but what I can't figure out is the difference between zone2 and pre-outs because theoretically they both achieved the same results driving a separate 2.0 speaker? or am I wrong?

Thanks

amp swithcher boss pwede na, kht ang bilhin mo yung receiver na walang preout. o if you like na may preout, sa onkyo it starts with 709 up

[♡ lvcdg23™ ✌]

Hey guys,

Got a question, that I couldn't figure out by researching on the internet. Here's the details.

I have an external power amplifier and have a 2.0 speakers attached to it. Now I want to buy an AV Receiver so that I can play some HD movies on HT setup but I want to keep the ext. power amp + 2.0 speaker set-up for audio listening.

What kind of receiver should I get so that I can switch between HD watching and audio listening. Based on my research there are two ways to achieve this with an AVR, an AVR with a Zone2 out or Pre-Outs, but what I can't figure out is the difference between zone2 and pre-outs because theoretically they both achieved the same results driving a separate 2.0 speaker? or am I wrong?

Thanks

Are you going to use the same 2.0 speakers for HT and audio purposes?
May preamp kaba kapartner nung ext. power amp or are you going to use your future AVR as preamp?

[freeks]

Sir if i understand your situation correctly, the only way you can use the power amp is if your avr has a pre-out, the zone 2 if i am not mistaken is still directly connected to your avr and not through your power amp.

Pero teka lang, yung power amp nyo po ba may volume control? If yes amp switcher po kailangan ninyo.

Yup. May volume control, my power amp is an old model Yamaha MX-1, pinaglumaan ng isang friend ko, binigay na lang sa akin. Hindi ako familiar sa amp switcher, what models and brands ang meron amp switcher?

Though may nakita ako sa mga manuals ng Yamaha na yun Zone2 outs naka kabit sa isa pang amp and doon naka-kabit yun separate 2.0 speakers.

[freeks]

Are you going to use the same 2.0 speakers for HT and audio purposes?
May preamp kaba kapartner nung ext. power amp or are you going to use your future AVR as preamp?

Yes, same 2.0 speakers for HT and Audio purposes. Planning on using the future AVR as preamp.

[♡ lvcdg23™ ✌]

Yes, same 2.0 speakers for HT and Audio purposes. Planning on using the future AVR as preamp.

Then ang kailangan nyo lang po is an AVR with multi-channel preouts. From the AVR left and right preout connect them to your ext power amp...
Not unless integrated amp po yung ext power amp nyo, thats when you need an amp switcher. You could contact sir marcrenz for that, nasa marketplace po yung ads nya...

[Timithekid]

Then ang kailangan nyo lang po is an AVR with multi-channel preouts. From the AVR left and right preout connect them to your ext power amp...
Not unless integrated amp po yung ext power amp nyo, thats when you need an amp switcher. You could contact sir marcrenz for that, nasa marketplace po yung ads nya...

From the looks of it bro mukhang 2 channel integrated amp nga ata, kasi may volume control na eh so i have a feeling amp switcher ni markcrenz nga kailangan.

@TS - can you post pocs if your amp so that we can help further?

[♡ lvcdg23™ ✌]

From the looks of it bro mukhang 2 channel integrated amp nga ata, kasi may volume control na eh so i have a feeling amp switcher ni markcrenz nga kailangan.

@TS - can you post pocs if your amp so that we can help further?

It seems nga na Int amp brader.

+1 sa pics sir freeks

[Nelson de Leon]

It seems nga na Int amp brader.

+1 sa pics sir freeks

Looks like it's integrated because may volume control.

Hey guys,

Got a question, that I couldn't figure out by researching on the internet. Here's the details.

I have an external power amplifier and have a 2.0 speakers attached to it. Now I want to buy an AV Receiver so that I can play some HD movies on HT setup but I want to keep the ext. power amp + 2.0 speaker set-up for audio listening.

What kind of receiver should I get so that I can switch between HD watching and audio listening. Based on my research there are two ways to achieve this with an AVR, an AVR with a Zone2 out or Pre-Outs, but what I can't figure out is the difference between zone2 and pre-outs because theoretically they both achieved the same results driving a separate 2.0 speaker? or am I wrong?

Thanks

Do you also plan to use your 2.0 speakers for movie watching too?

[freeks]

Looks like it's integrated because may volume control.

Do you also plan to use your 2.0 speakers for movie watching too?

here are the pics

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8500/8372394621_b976d94f83_o.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8502/8373462816_3c5116913b_o.jpg

Yes, but its gonna be part of a 5.1 system. Still have to buy the other 3 speakers though -_-

[Courage]

here are the pics

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8500/8372394621_b976d94f83_o.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8502/8373462816_3c5116913b_o.jpg

Yes, but its gonna be part of a 5.1 system. Still have to buy the other 3 speakers though -_-

Power amp only and not integrated amp..

If you want to use it as part of ht and audio.. You can do two things..

Buy a receiver with no preouts but buy a switcher so you can switch between receiver and amp using one set of speakers(fronts)

Or buy a receiver with pre outs and connect it to the fronts left and right channel pre-outs.

[♡ lvcdg23™ ✌]

here are the pics

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8500/8372394621_b976d94f83_o.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8502/8373462816_3c5116913b_o.jpg

Yes, but its gonna be part of a 5.1 system. Still have to buy the other 3 speakers though -_-

+1 kay courage. Just like my previous Parasound power amp na may gain control sa likod.
Better to buy an AVR with multi-channel preouts.
And since Yamaha na cya, I suggest getting a Yamaha AVR also

[Nelson de Leon]

here are the pics

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8500/8372394621_b976d94f83_o.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8502/8373462816_3c5116913b_o.jpg

Yes, but its gonna be part of a 5.1 system. Still have to buy the other 3 speakers though -_-

Power amp nga. try mo yun ginawa ni Timi. He used an LOC from Don King Markcrenz. Kumuha siya ng signal from the front speaker out ng receiver niya. Then connected it to the LOC to convert the amplified signal to line output, then to a power amp. You can still use your power amp as an amplifier for your fronts if you buy a receiver w/o preouts. Though, masmaganda talaga, get a receiver with preouts na if you have the budget.

[Stagea]

here are the pics

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8500/8372394621_b976d94f83_o.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8502/8373462816_3c5116913b_o.jpg

Yes, but its gonna be part of a 5.1 system. Still have to buy the other 3 speakers though -_-

Maganda yung dual mono amp na yan. Smooth with good dynamic headroom. I've had a good experience with the 230V version (from Yupangco pa that time). Kailangan lang ng maayos na partnering components.

The MX-D1 (MX-1's successor) was also the first Class D amp that I found subjectively good.

[Timithekid]

Ayun, nasagot na nila lahat ng option hehe.  It really is just a poweramp.  If you dont have a receiver yet, get one with preouts, if you have one already with no preout, get an LOC.  everything goes through your receiver, palit palit ka lang ng source and the speaker will play from whichever you choose.

[av_phile1]

Take good care of your MX-1.  It's an excellent power amp rated at 100w RMS into 8 ohms with 0.008% THD and can support 2 ohm speaker loads to deliver 320 watts per channel with 0.09% THD  This is significantly a lot better specs than any HT receiver I know.  Even the Yamaha RX-V773 receiver's power amp section won't be able to hold a candle to your amp.  Its 8ohm power rating has a THD corresponding only to the 2 ohm THD of the MX-1.   

Anyway, I strongly suggest you get an AV receiver with per-outs to do justice to your exquisite power amp.  I would have suggested using the tape record out of an entry level receiver, but while this is fine for stereo music listening, the stereo record out might contain a mixed down 5.1 channel information which could mess up the surrounds when in multichannel mode for movies.

Consider getting a second hand 1-2 year old mid-end AV receiver model with pre-outs.  I'd recommend a Rotel or Marantz, followed by a Yamaha or Denon.


Just curious, what pre-amp are you using now for your stereo listening?  CX-1?

[ATJr.]

Take good care of your MX-1.  It's an excellent power amp rated at 100w RMS into 8 ohms with 0.008% THD and can support 2 ohm speaker loads to deliver 320 watts per channel with 0.09% THD  This is significantly a lot better specs than any HT receiver I know.  Even the Yamaha RX-V773 receiver's power amp section won't be able to hold a candle to your amp.  Its 8ohm power rating has a THD corresponding only to the 2 ohm THD of the MX-1.   

Anyway, I strongly suggest you get an AV receiver with per-outs to do justice to your exquisite power amp.  I would have suggested using the tape record out of an entry level receiver, but while this is fine for stereo music listening, the stereo record out might contain a mixed down 5.1 channel information which could mess up the surrounds when in multichannel mode for movies.

Consider getting a second hand 1-2 year old mid-end AV receiver model with pre-outs.  I'd recommend a Rotel or Marantz, followed by a Yamaha or Denon.

Just curious, what pre-amp are you using now for your stereo listening?  CX-1?

i like amps that can do 2 ohm loads, it tells you that the amp is robust, and the fact that the maker claims 320watts at 2 ohms is excellent, with a perfect psu and an amp that can do 100 watts into 8ohms, can do 400 watts at 2 ohms, but who is to lose sleep over 80watts, not me.....

[freeks]

Just curious, what pre-amp are you using now for your stereo listening?  CX-1?

Currently don't have a set-up right now. I used to have an old pioneer amplifier, and I mean way old, and it just broke sometime ago. Just recently got that Yamaha MX-1 so I decided to build from scratch.

Thanks for all the advice guys, I can't quote all your post but really appreciate it.

Looks like I'll be going with the AVR option and not the LOC option. Though one question that still confuses me is the difference of pre-out and zone2 because looking for AVRs that can handle an ext. power amp, the mid end range only has a Zone2 outs and only the top of the line models have the pre-out option.

Technically they are doing the same function right? passing the audio signal to the power amp?

Like the Yamaha RX-V673 has Zone2 and in the manual it can be used to power another amplifier with a 2.0 setup in another room.

EDIT: Pic from the Manual

[av_phile1]

Currently don't have a set-up right now. I used to have an old pioneer amplifier, and I mean way old, and it just broke sometime ago. Just recently got that Yamaha MX-1 so I decided to build from scratch.

Thanks for all the advice guys, I can't quote all your post but really appreciate it.

Looks like I'll be going with the AVR option and not the LOC option. Though one question that still confuses me is the difference of pre-out and zone2 because looking for AVRs that can handle an ext. power amp, the mid end range only has a Zone2 outs and only the top of the line models have the pre-out option.

Technically they are doing the same function right? passing the audio signal to the power amp?

Like the Yamaha RX-V673 has Zone2 and in the manual it can be used to power another amplifier with a 2.0 setup in another room.

Yes, a zone 2 pre-out would do the same job as a regular preout.  But I don't know if you can feed Zone 2 with the same source.  My understanding is that in a 5.1 receiver for instance, you can watch a 5.1 movie in your main room and have a CD or tuner connected to the same receiver be played in another room or Zone 2 by feeding a stereo power amp like your MX-1 from the receiver's Zone 2 pre-outs. I'm just not sure if you can feed Zone 2 with the same source you are listening to in your main room.  That way, you could use your MX-1 to power your front speakers and the receiver for the rest. Otherwise, you won't have a pair of fronts when watching a 5.1 movie.  You will need to attach another set of front speakers to your receiver. That is how I understood it from my old Onkyo reciever many years ago.  Perhaps the newer ones can feed the same source to a zone 2.

[Timithekid]

Currently don't have a set-up right now. I used to have an old pioneer amplifier, and I mean way old, and it just broke sometime ago. Just recently got that Yamaha MX-1 so I decided to build from scratch.

Thanks for all the advice guys, I can't quote all your post but really appreciate it.

Looks like I'll be going with the AVR option and not the LOC option. Though one question that still confuses me is the difference of pre-out and zone2 because looking for AVRs that can handle an ext. power amp, the mid end range only has a Zone2 outs and only the top of the line models have the pre-out option.

Technically they are doing the same function right? passing the audio signal to the power amp?

Like the Yamaha RX-V673 has Zone2 and in the manual it can be used to power another amplifier with a 2.0 setup in another room.

EDIT: Pic from the Manual

Sir the yamaha 673 in particular has a zone 2 analog audio output that functions as a line out so with this receiver i believe its possible to use it with your power amplifier (provided it has its own volume control which i think your mx-1 does not have, what it has are gain controls at the back), but that would only be for zone 2.  And if im not mistaken zone 1 and 2 needs 2 different sets of speakers.

Lets wait for the more experienced users to chime in, i might be wrong.

[Nelson de Leon]

Nasa 2 volts ba ang mga zone 2 outputs ngayon?

[Stagea]

Nasa 2 volts ba ang mga zone 2 outputs ngayon?

1.2V sinewave is typical, same as yung preouts ng AVR.

[av_phile1]

Sir the yamaha 673 in particular has a zone 2 analog audio output that functions as a line out so with this receiver i believe its possible to use it with your power amplifier (provided it has its own volume control which i think your mx-1 does not have, what it has are gain controls at the back), but that would only be for zone 2.  And if im not mistaken zone 1 and 2 needs 2 different sets of speakers.

Lets wait for the more experienced users to chime in, i might be wrong.

Zone 2 etc does not require separate volume controls since you can control any of them from your reciever with this feature.