Topic: Yamaha Receivers

[Courage]

@raider125jeigh, what is the advantage of setting the fronts to small instead of increasing the volume/output level of the Sub-woofer in the settings?

I suggest you set all speakers small @ 80hz so that all frequency below that will be sent to sub.. Check also how low your speakers can go.. then listen... you can adjust it to your liking after 80-60-40...

My fronts can go as low as 30hz but i set it to 80hz pag movies, para sa akin mas maganda ang details nya at that frequency pero pag music ako i set it to large... Experiment experiment experiment until magustuhan nang ears mo ang SQ..

[raider125jeigh]

I suggest you set all speakers small @ 80hz so that all frequency below that will be sent to sub.. Check also how low your speakers can go.. then listen... you can adjust it to your liking after 80-60-40...

My fronts can go as low as 30hz but i set it to 80hz pag movies, para sa akin mas maganda ang details nya at that frequency pero pag music ako i set it to large... Experiment experiment experiment until magustuhan nang ears mo ang SQ..

eto thx settings to kay brader jason...

kung saan ka masaya cooltoys

elms ung sayo huwag mo i 40hz lahat...small setting sya pero lumalabas sa center and surr nakalarge....

[≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦]

eto thx settings to kay brader jason...

kung saan ka masaya cooltoys

elms ung sayo huwag mo i 40hz lahat...small setting sya pero lumalabas sa center and surr nakalarge....

Haha

[raider125jeigh]

Haha

hehe now ko lang nakita...pero kung happy ka dyan ok lang din naman pero lumalabas na large din ung surr and center - ung a7 lang hindi kasi a7 can go low more at 40hz

[rexFi]

I suggest you set all speakers small @ 80hz so that all frequency below that will be sent to sub.. Check also how low your speakers can go.. then listen... you can adjust it to your liking after 80-60-40...

My fronts can go as low as 30hz but i set it to 80hz pag movies, para sa akin mas maganda ang details nya at that frequency pero pag music ako i set it to large... Experiment experiment experiment until magustuhan nang ears mo ang SQ..

I agree with this. I accidentally found about it because I was researching the SW+ feature of my receiver.

..and I still haven't upgraded to a Yamaha receiver.

[Courage]

eto thx settings to kay brader jason...

kung saan ka masaya cooltoys

elms ung sayo huwag mo i 40hz lahat...small setting sya pero lumalabas sa center and surr nakalarge....

Di ko na gets kung anong nangyayari dito? pag naka 40hz lumalabas sa center ang alin?

[raider125jeigh]

Di ko na gets kung anong nangyayari dito? pag naka 40hz lumalabas sa center ang alin?

hihihi

kapag naka 80hz ka kasi lahat ng speaker mo 80hz below sub ang magoutput
kapag ang front nakaset as 40hz  maglalabas din sya ng output hangang 41/40hz bukod sa nangagaling sa sub na 80hz below...

ung kay elms kasi technically small pero naka 40hz which somehow large na kasi mapipilitan ung speaker ng maglabas ng output till 40hz

[Timithekid]

hihihi

kapag naka 80hz ka kasi lahat ng speaker mo 80hz below sub ang magoutput
kapag ang front nakaset as 40hz  maglalabas din sya ng output hangang 41/40hz bukod sa nangagaling sa sub na 80hz below...

ung kay elms kasi technically small pero naka 40hz which somehow large na kasi mapipilitan ung speaker ng maglabas ng output till 40hz

Ang laking overlap non ah, 40. di kaya sumobra na bass non?

[raider125jeigh]

Ang laking overlap non ah, 40. di kaya sumobra na bass non?

sa fronts ok lang un... ung 30hz ni jason na PSB
pwede ilarge all the way kasi kayang maglow pero advisable na to have it either 40hz ,50hz, 60,70,or 80hz thx
kasi ung 40 hz to 20 kaya ng SVS sub saluhin lahat un...

kaya ung ibang naka a9 which can go low up to 25hz if im not mistaken kahti walang sub ok na...
natatamad ako magcheck ng speaker specs hehe..

nalalakihan ka sa over lap diba... o isipin mo ung surr naka 40hz... so it means LARGE sya - im not sure if it can go low to 30 sa surr.... tamad ako magcheck ng specs...
technically nakikita small but the setting from the speaker itself ay LARGE
talo pa ung setting ng ibang SUB...kasi ung ibang sub can only go up to 50,40,30hz
boomy subs..

[Timithekid]

sa fronts ok lang un... ung 30hz ni jason na PSB
pwede ilarge all the way kasi kayang maglow pero advisable na to have it either 40hz ,50hz, 60,70,or 80hz thx
kasi ung 40 hz to 20 kaya ng SVS sub saluhin lahat un...

kaya ung ibang naka a9 which can go low up to 25hz if im not mistaken kahti walang sub ok na...
natatamad ako magcheck ng speaker specs hehe..

nalalakihan ka sa over lap diba... o isipin mo ung surr naka 40hz... so it means LARGE sya - im not sure if it can go low to 30 sa surr.... tamad ako magcheck ng specs...
technically nakikita small but the setting from the speaker itself ay LARGE
talo pa ung setting ng ibang SUB...kasi ung ibang sub can only go up to 50,40,30hz
boomy subs..

Well, its not a question naman kung kaya lalo na with the a9.  Never ko kasi sinubukan kasi feeling ko magiging muddy na ang bass.  So far ok nako sa 80 hz na naka small lahat.

[Courage]

hihihi

kapag naka 80hz ka kasi lahat ng speaker mo 80hz below sub ang magoutput
kapag ang front nakaset as 40hz  maglalabas din sya ng output hangang 41/40hz bukod sa nangagaling sa sub na 80hz below...

ung kay elms kasi technically small pero naka 40hz which somehow large na kasi mapipilitan ung speaker ng maglabas ng output till 40hz

Akala ko kasi may problema ha ha ha....

Anyway the reason why it's not advisable na i set to lower frequency specially pag ginawa mong large eh sa pelikula may mga frequency na lower than 20hz.. if in case pumasok to sa speakers mo and your speakers is capable only of lets say 60hz wala kang madidinig sa speakers mo pero maglalaro yung drivers mo... kapag mataas ang volume matindi ang pag labas masok nang drivers mo and may result to driver damage... another reason is nasasapawan nang low frequecy minsan ang details and pumapanget ang tunog..

[raider125jeigh]

Well, its not a question naman kung kaya lalo na with the a9.  Never ko kasi sinubukan kasi feeling ko magiging muddy na ang bass.  So far ok nako sa 80 hz na naka small lahat.

you'll see the difference for gun shots kapag kaya nya ng malalim kapag maganda ang fronts..

ang advise ko lang kay elms kahit ung surr and center gawin 60hz haha.. pero kung happy naman sya e - subjective yan...hihihi

naka 40hz kasi lahat...
ang hindi ko alam ung setting ng sub... if naka 80hz

[Courage]

Well, its not a question naman kung kaya lalo na with the a9.  Never ko kasi sinubukan kasi feeling ko magiging muddy na ang bass.  So far ok nako sa 80 hz na naka small lahat.

Actually malaking possibiliy nga ito and because muddy yung lumalabas sa speakers.. nasasapawan nya yung details pumapanget ang tunog...

[raider125jeigh]

Akala ko kasi may problema ha ha ha....

Anyway the reason why it's not advisable na i set to lower frequency specially pag ginawa mong large eh sa pelikula may mga frequency na lower than 20hz.. if in case pumasok to sa speakers mo and your speakers is capable only of lets say 60hz wala kang madidinig sa speakers mo pero maglalaro yung drivers mo... kapag mataas ang volume matindi ang pag labas masok nang drivers mo and may result to driver damage... another reason is nasasapawan nang low frequecy minsan ang details and pumapanget ang tunog..

my advise is either 80hz thx settings or the following

40 or 50 fronts (kapag maganda magbass ang speaker it wont be muddy lalo na kaya na gang 25hz)
60 center and surr
80sub
but not everything in 40hz

[Courage]

you'll see the difference for gun shots kapag kaya nya ng malalim kapag maganda ang fronts..

ang advise ko lang kay elms kahit ung surr and center gawin 60hz haha.. pero kung happy naman sya e - subjective yan...hihihi

naka 40hz kasi lahat...
ang hindi ko alam ung setting ng sub... if naka 80hz

I suggest if you want to play with crossover eh tingnan muna kung yung naka set na xover setting is kaya nang speakers.. meaning if your speaker can only go low at 60hz mapa fronts center or surrounds man yan, why set it to 40hz di ba?

[Courage]

my advise is either 80hz thx settings or the following

40 or 50 fronts (kapag maganda magbass ang speaker it wont be muddy lalo na kaya na gang 25hz)
60 center and surr
80sub
but not everything in 40hz

Hindi din kasi applicable yan sa lahat kasi nga minsan hindi kaya nang speaker na ganyan ka baba...Like yung surround back ko(from mini compo)... lowest it can go is 120hz.. so there's no point of making it 80hz di ba?

[Timithekid]

my advise is either 80hz thx settings or the following

40 or 50 fronts (kapag maganda magbass ang speaker it wont be muddy lalo na kaya na gang 25hz)
60 center and surr
80sub
but not everything in 40hz

Korek ka dyan sis, at 40hz for all channels eh parang naka .6 narin si elmira non hahaha.

[Courage]

Korek ka dyan sis, at 40hz for all channels eh parang naka .6 narin si elmira non hahaha.

My question is... yung other speakers ba can go as low as 40hz? Kung hindi.. then set it kung anong kaya nang speakers..

[Timithekid]

My question is... yung other speakers ba can go as low as 40hz? Kung hindi.. then set it kung anong kaya nang speakers..

Ano nga ba surrounds ni elmer?  Yung a7 nya am pretty sure pasok sa 40. Diba fxia6 gamit nya?

[raider125jeigh]

check natin specs... wait haha...
but for sure a7 can go low more than 40/50hz

center CSI a6 not sure if kaya na 40hz
Surr fxi a6 check natin kung kaya nya 40hz


ung recommendation ko base sa speaker ni ELMER haha
hindi sa component speakers hehe...

[raider125jeigh]

inaaway nyo akong dalawa e nagsusugest nga ako...haha... kasi ayaw kong asa 40hz un upon reading it..
the best manual configuration ung suggest ko haha
either
40-50 fronts
60 center
60 or 80 surr

80 svs

[Courage]

check natin specs... wait haha...
but for sure a7 can go low more than 40/50hz

center CSI a6 not sure if kaya na 40hz
Surr fxi a6 check natin kung kaya nya 40hz


ung recommendation ko base sa speaker ni ELMER haha
hindi sa component speakers hehe...

The A7 can go 40hz no prob about that...

The CSi cant.. 45Hz-27kHz

[raider125jeigh]

kain muna kami...later ang discussion hehe..
basta ako ang sinasabi ko ...
nakaset ung speaker setting sa SMALL sa receiver but in reality it was not kasi it was set to the maz hz na kaya ng speaker..kaya pinapabago ko ung setting

ung 80hz setting na setup THX setting no problems dun
pwede din magmanual depende sa speakers na ginagamit hihihi

ang pinaguusapan lang ung setup ni elms

[Courage]

kain muna kami...later ang discussion hehe..
basta ako ang sinasabi ko ...
nakaset ung speaker setting sa SMALL sa receiver but in reality it was not kasi it was set to the maz hz na kaya ng speaker..kaya pinapabago ko ung setting

ung 80hz setting na setup THX setting no problems dun
pwede din magmanual depende sa speakers na ginagamit hihihi

Bro small settings pa rin yun kahit 40hz..kasi nga may mga bookshelves that can go as low as 30hz...

Setting the speakers to large meaning your speaker can handle all range including lows 20hz and below...

This is scary kasi pag may sumasabog na scene at high volume di mo alam less than 20hz na pala yung pinopruduce nang speakers mo which is not capable of handling that low.. magwawala ang drivers mo nyan..

I tested my PSB T6 feeding it with less than 30hz signal speakers set to large at mid to low volume... grabe yung laro nang driver ko considering na mahina pa yung volume.. pero wala ako nadidinig.. what more kung malakas ang volume ko? If i put it at high volume may tendency na masira ko yung driver... this is one of the reason why one shouldnt put a speaker to large for HT use unless you are sure na talagang kaya nang speaker ang 20hz below signal..

[raider125jeigh]

Bro small settings pa rin yun kahit 40hz..kasi nga may mga bookshelves that can go as low as 30hz...

Setting the speakers to large meaning your speaker can handle all range including lows 20hz and below...

This is scary kasi pag may sumasabog na scene at high volume di mo alam less than 20hz na pala yung pinopruduce nang speakers mo which is not capable of handling that low.. magwawala ang drivers mo nyan..

I tested my PSB T6 feeding it with less than 30hz signal speakers set to large at mid to low volume... grabe yung laro nang driver ko considering na mahina pa yung volume.. pero wala ako nadidinig.. what more kung malakas ang volume ko? If i put it at high volume may tendency na masira ko yung driver... this is one of the reason why one shouldnt put a speaker to large for HT use unless you are sure na talagang kaya nang speaker ang 20hz below signal..

hahaha... hindi tayo nagkakaintindihan....

same tayo ng logic magkaiba ng explanation...

tagalog

sinet ni elmer ung lahat ng speaker sa 40hz
LCR and SURR
sinet nya sa SMALL - SMALL at 40hz
ang ibig ko sabihin e ..nakasmall nga sya...pero in reality parang large kasi tatangap sya ng output sa maximum na kaya nyang tangapin.....
same logic

another scenario
meron akong bookshelf kaya nya e 80hz sinet ko sya sa LARGE ngayon FULLband sya kahit anu pwede nya tangapin
ngayon iset ko sya sa 40hz small ( small man ) tatangap pa din sya ng output sa max na kaya nya

kaya nasabi ko kay elmer na palitan ung 40hz to 60 dahil ung 60 kayang tangapin ng center and surr for sure...

[raider125jeigh]

eto thx settings to kay brader jason...

kung saan ka masaya cooltoys

elms ung sayo huwag mo i 40hz lahat...small setting sya pero lumalabas sa center and surr nakalarge....

ang ibig ko dyan sabihin naka set sa 40hz pero in reality somehow large kasi it will receive output na wala sa range na kaya nya

[Courage]

hahaha... hindi tayo nagkakaintindihan....

same tayo ng logic magkaiba ng explanation...

tagalog

sinet ni elmer ung lahat ng speaker sa 40hz
LCR and SURR
sinet nya sa SMALL - SMALL at 40hz
ang ibig ko sabihin e ..nakasmall nga sya...pero in reality parang large kasi tatangap sya ng output sa maximum na kaya nyang tangapin.....
same logic

another scenario
meron akong bookshelf kaya nya e 80hz sinet ko sya sa LARGE ngayon FULLband sya kahit anu pwede nya tangapin
ngayon iset ko sya sa 40hz small ( small man ) tatangap pa din sya ng output sa max na kaya nya

kaya nasabi ko kay elmer na palitan ung 40hz to 60 dahil ung 60 kayang tangapin ng center and surr for sure...

I think elmer's logic of setting all his speaks eh kaya kasi nung A7,Center and even yung surround nya... All can go as low as 45hz kasi eh...

Bro be carefull in setting your bookshelves to Large.. specially kung movies... Kung music wala problema.. Kahit anong frequency naman kasi tatanggapin nya.. the question is kaya ba nung speakers yung signal at high level listening?

[≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦]

haha ang gugulo sa weekend ko na isipin yan.

Pag sa YPAO kasi automatic na large lahat nilalagay ng YPAO that the scenario then ilalagay ko sa small para sa SVS sub naman. 

[Courage]

haha ang gugulo sa weekend ko na isipin yan.

Pag sa YPAO kasi automatic na large lahat nilalagay ng YPAO that the scenario then ilalagay ko sa small para sa SVS sub naman. 

Bro nung nag run ako nang YPAO sa akin hindi nya sinet sa large lahat nang speakers ko after YPO eto kinalabasan nang setting ko

Fronts 40hz small PSB T6
Surround 60hz small B6
Center 80hz small C5
Surround 160hz small mini compo surround speaker

[raider125jeigh]

I think elmer's logic of setting all his speaks eh kaya kasi nung A7,Center and even yung surround nya... All can go as low as 45hz kasi eh...

Bro be carefull in setting your bookshelves to Large.. specially kung movies... Kung music wala problema.. Kahit anong frequency naman kasi tatanggapin nya.. the question is kaya ba nung speakers yung signal at high level listening?

another scenario (and mean ko dito is ung Bookshelf max hz nya ay 80hz lang, below 80 hindi nya na kaya para clear) not my own speaker - scenario lang

meron akong bookshelf kaya nya e 80hz sinet ko sya sa LARGE ngayon FULLband sya kahit anu pwede nya tangapin
ngayon iset ko sya sa 40hz small ( small man ) tatangap pa din sya ng output sa max na kaya nya (kasi gang 80hz lang sya)
kaya nasabi ko kay elmer na palitan ung 40hz to 60 dahil ung 60 kayang tangapin ng center and surr for sure...









ung saken nakaset sa 50hz ang rti a3 before it was 40hz naalala ko lang ung setting na sinet ko kay elmer.. 40  > 60 > 60
parehas 50hz ung rti a3 and us audio ( low end 50hz lang kasi ung sub boomy) for movie
but i set it minsan sa 40hz when listening to music kapag natatamad akong magpalit na cable ng int amp  > for movie 50hz

 i never use LARGE setting for fronts sa movie eversince...


ang saken lang is i was correcting elmers setting of 40hz for all speakers...