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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #60 on: Apr 23, 2006 at 09:47 PM »
Its region FREE for HD DVD and R1  for  S DVD..

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #61 on: Apr 23, 2006 at 10:13 PM »
cool!

that's a good start. thanks aldrin for the info. and congrats! big time ka talaga!

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #62 on: Apr 23, 2006 at 10:34 PM »
look whos talking... mas BIG TIME ka.. money is not an option to you. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #63 on: Apr 23, 2006 at 10:37 PM »
ok yung video sa link. so technically, buying an HDDVD Player is like buying a dedicated PC for a higher-level entertainment.

aldrin, im just a small time dude in a big package.

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #64 on: Apr 24, 2006 at 08:49 AM »
htpc pala sya....htpc enthusiast must be wondering when sila makakakuha ng drive.... (oh btw paul....got my wife's approval na...) ;D
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #65 on: Apr 24, 2006 at 04:20 PM »
dude.....you must  teach me your  new JEDI MIND TRICK....  ;D  ;D  ;D

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #66 on: Apr 24, 2006 at 04:23 PM »
Munskie, good to hear you got your wife's approval na hehe  :D

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #67 on: Apr 24, 2006 at 08:21 PM »
got the approval...but still no budget......wait wait wait....... ;D
kim.....learn the ways of the FORCE... ;D

wait and see attitude pa rin....im happy that i got my wifey's approval but still, reading your posts, makes me think twice really.  baka nga maging $500 paperweight lang sya someday..... ;D  safe bet really is ps3...

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #68 on: Apr 25, 2006 at 04:50 PM »
Hi guys, I got a special report (in a digital print format) on HD DVD & Blu-ray, the latest AV news from the popular Sound & Vision magazine. If any of you're interested to know more about the new HD format, you may drop me a PM with your email address.  :)

A complete introduction to the new high-def disc formats: The Top 10 Questions Answered.

1. I'm happy with DVD. Why should I care about high-deft discs?
2. What are the key differences between HD DVD & Blu-ray?
3. Why are there two formats, instead of one, like with DVD?
4. So which companies are supporting which format?
5. When can I buy a player and disc, and what will they cost?
6. Will Blu-ray & HD DVD players play DVDs?
7. Can we expect to see Blu-ray & HD DVD recorders?
8. What kind of copy production will the formats use?
9. Will the new disc have more interactive features than DVDs?
10. Is there a chance the two sides will still agree on a single format?

Another special report:

Exactly what does make the new players & discs tick?: Inside Blu-ray & HD DVD

Very imformative articles plus lots of other latest hi-tech gadget reviews. :D
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #69 on: Apr 25, 2006 at 08:08 PM »
send me the details.. ;D ;D ;D before i re box my player. ;D ;D

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #70 on: Apr 26, 2006 at 12:05 AM »

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #71 on: Apr 26, 2006 at 12:51 PM »
Nice article.  Makes me drool over the new formats.  But I'm in no rush.  The author is right.  There are still a lot of refinements that can be expected.  The DVDs and DVD players of today are a lot better than the first generation DVDs.  And we're talking 7-8 years after they debutted.  So I could expect the same for these HD formats and their players.  Maybe in 3-4 years, the 3rd or 4th generation HD discs and players will be much better in terms of features and convenience and so much cheaper.  And how many HD titles are there today? 

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #72 on: Apr 26, 2006 at 12:58 PM »
Very informative article aldrinpsx :) Yep I agree with av_phile1. I'm in no rush too...will wait for PS3 launch & see what will happen next.  ;D

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #74 on: Apr 28, 2006 at 01:42 AM »
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=9717480376&ssPageName=ADME:B:TB6:US:2   :o :o :o :o


peace!!!
no one is crazy to get this one at around $900. :o
the guy who won the bid must be desperate and is definitely is not living in US.

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #75 on: Apr 28, 2006 at 07:12 AM »
Geez..how desperate can one really get but at $900??  ::)

The winner is from UK....gosh, he should have just order online & have it delivered....that would save him lots of $$$  :-X

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #76 on: Apr 28, 2006 at 07:37 AM »
Nice article.  Makes me drool over the new formats.  But I'm in no rush.  The author is right.  There are still a lot of refinements that can be expected.  The DVDs and DVD players of today are a lot better than the first generation DVDs.  And we're talking 7-8 years after they debutted.  So I could expect the same for these HD formats and their players.  Maybe in 3-4 years, the 3rd or 4th generation HD discs and players will be much better in terms of features and convenience and so much cheaper.  And how many HD titles are there today? 
baka rin in a matter of 7-8 years, we'll be hearing terms like upscaling or upconverting hd-dvd players.....for super high definition hehe, just like what is prevalent this days...upconverting dvd players.  ;D ;D

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #77 on: Apr 28, 2006 at 11:15 AM »
Maybe.  HD is really the frontier's edge.  When you see one, it's so lifelike it's as if you're looking at a professional glossy Vogue magazine pictorial but moving.  The highest resolution for current HD-DVD is 1080i and for Blu-Ray it's 1080p where there's hardly any difference.  There are already movies entirely made in digital that have resolutions twice or more.  But that's because you have to contend with really huge theater screens of 100feet accross.  But for home entertainment with typically 42" to 60" screens, HD resolutions of 1080i or p will simply trash the best DVD set-up.   

The next frontier......maybe high definition holographic 3D projection, Using those large eyewear goggles where you feel yourself right in the middle of a movie scene and interacting with the actors.  ;D
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High-def DVD player: Don't expect to be dazzled just yet
« Reply #78 on: May 01, 2006 at 08:59 AM »
From Business & Tehnology news:

As it rolls out the first high-definition DVD player, Toshiba Corp. is boasting: "Image is everything".

After testing the so-called HD DVD machine on three TVs of various dimensions, I hit on a more appropriate slogan: "Size matters."

We reached a milestone in viewing recently with the debut of the Toshiba HD-A1, which costs just shy of $500. (A deluxe model, the HD-XA1, goes for $800).

Should you care? Probably not. Because unless you already have a high-definition television at least 40 inches in size, you won't notice much of a difference.

Here's my advice: If you have a spare $500, use it toward an upgrade to a bigger set instead. In the time it takes to save up another $500, the price of HD disc players will probably drop and a pending format war may well be decided.

Full article: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002960326_ptcolker29.html?syndication=rss




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Re: High-def DVD player: Don't expect to be dazzled just yet
« Reply #79 on: May 02, 2006 at 07:07 PM »

Full article: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002960326_ptcolker29.html?syndication=rss


The author of this article seems to be just learning the ropes about high definition. It's really all about big screens and how realistic it can get at those sizes.  Because at those sizes, ordinary DVD's 480p progressive simply won't impress.  You won't see that much difference on a 23"TV.  Even on a 32" TV with some upsampling players.   It usually starts at 42."
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #80 on: May 02, 2006 at 09:26 PM »
I thought that's what the author implied as he mentioned:

"....unless you already have a high-definition television at least 40 inches in size, you won't notice much of a difference"  :)
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #81 on: May 02, 2006 at 09:49 PM »
That was the correct conclusion he learned  after going through the rounds of his testing starting with an old 32" SONY HD ready set where he used analog connections.  Then he used a 23" Samsung with HDMI.  And concluded correctly there wasn't much difference between DVD and HD-DVD at that screen size. .  Then as he went to a bigger screen the difference became obvious.   And after going through the test with 3 different TV set dimensions, he concluded that with HD, "Size matters."  How true.  So his article seemed to me like an odyssey towards HD awareness.  But that's just my impression.     ;D
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #82 on: May 02, 2006 at 09:54 PM »
Ah I see what you meant... ;D

Hopefully newbies will learn a lesson from this article & not conducting experiment by using small TVs to make comparison  ;D
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #83 on: May 02, 2006 at 10:12 PM »
I hope so too.  But I guess some people will still want to see the comparison for themselves using the small screens they may have at home.  Worst, using analog connections like s-video or composite.  ;D



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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #84 on: May 04, 2006 at 12:37 PM »
From: TV.Com

Fully Equipped- Ten Ways HD-DVD Falls Short
By TV.com Staff
May 1, 2006 at 03:15:00 PM

We take a look at the issues surrounding the latest media format.

For Tom Cruise watchers, April 18 was a big day. Yes, there was something about him having a kid with Katie Holmes, but more importantly for videophiles, The Last Samurai HD-DVD was officially released along with Toshiba's new next-gen DVD player, the HD-A1 and three other discs: The Phantom of the Opera, Million Dollar Baby, and Serenity. Kudos to Toshiba for actually getting a semiaffordable first-generation product out well ahead of Sony and Camp Blu-ray. But as I've said before, that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of things to complain about. So, here we go. I've ordered my gripes from mildly bothersome to really irksome. And of course, feel free to add your own peeves.

1. Initial HD-DVDs are just rehashes of the existing DVDs
OK, so it's early in the game. But this is the same complaint that folks had about a lot of early Xbox 360 games--that they're just graphically spruced-up versions of their Xbox counterparts. Hopefully, we'll soon see some HD-DVD discs that actually show off some of the interactive features that Toshiba is touting.

2. Extra features not in high-def
This format is called HD-DVD, so why am I not watching extras in HD? Enough said.

3. Player doesn't do enough
 understand Toshiba wanting to come out with a basic player for a semiaffordable price. Five hundred bucks is a lot, but it's half the price of what Blu-ray players will start out at, and it's not an outrageous figure for those wanting a first crack at cutting-edge technology. That said, the company's step-up HD-DVD player, the HD-XA1 ($799) should have offered a little more in the way of features--instead, it boasts only a motorized front door, some better-looking cosmetics, an RS-232 port, and a backlit remote. How 'bout a little DVD-Audio support? (SACD is probably a no-no, since it's a Sony-backed format.) What about slots for memory cards, so you can show your digital photos at high-def resolutions or play back digital music? And why couldn't those USB ports in front accept thumbdrives filled with digital photos and music?

4. No 1080p output
The high-definition video output of first-generation HD-DVD players is limited to 720p or 1080i, not 1080p, which is currently the best high-def image you can get. With only a handful of HDTVs out there that accept and display a native 1080p signal, what's the big deal? For starters, 1080p is quickly becoming the new de facto gold standard for HDTVs, with 1080p inputs set to become a lowest common denominator for nearly all 2006 HDTVs. But the dearth of 1080p output is most frustrating, once you find out that HD-DVD movies are being mastered in 1080p--but that theoretically better picture quality will remain locked on the disc until 1080p HD-DVD players appear (sometime in 2007, if not earlier). Needless to say, it's a bummer to not get 1080p right out of the gate, especially when first-gen Blu-ray players will offer it. I don't need to be completely future-proofed, but give me some basic protection, please.

5. Component video can be flagged
I almost wrote a full column on this issue alone. The unfortunate fact is that studios can encode their discs with an image-constraint flag that downconverts the HD-DVD's output resolution to 960x540 when played through the analog component-video outputs, which lack the robust digital copy-protection of HDMI. That means discs that are so flagged will display only a quarter of their best possible resolution if you own one of the early HDTVs that are lacking digital video inputs (HDMI or HDCP-compatible DVI). Yes, Blu-ray discs carry the same restrictions, and almost all of the studios have tentatively agreed to no flag their initial batch of releases. But that still leaves early adopters at the mercy of the studio bosses, who can choose to reverse course at any time.

6. Wacky audio
HD-DVD discs allegedly offer even better sound than do DVDs. And while we actually believe this--HD-DVD discs are encoded with the higher-resolution Dolby True HD, Dolby Digital Plus, and/or DTS-HD soundtracks--the player's audio setup is a real hassle to figure out, and we're still not certain we've gotten optimal sound out of the home theater here in our lab. In our review of the HD-A1, we note that, "There's a full-page chart in the manual that details which connections can pass which types of soundtracks, including footnotes such as this: 'Bitstream audio output is possible only when the connected HDMI device has bitstream decoding function. If not, sound is output in PCM (48k) format.'" If that isn't confusing enough, word is that Warner's initial HD-DVD offerings don't appear to have been mastered correctly. As reported at DVD enthusiast site The Digital Bits, if you go from watching The Last Samurai to Universal's correctly mastered Serenity, your speakers may get blown out, because the latter disc is so much louder--a fact to which we can attest.

7. HDMI hiccups
Toshiba didn't create the finicky beast known as HDMI, so we can't totally fault the company for this one, but the fact remains that we've encountered our share of problems while trying to connect the HD-A1 to various HDTVs in our lab. On a couple of occasions, the player simply stopped playing in the middle of a movie, or we got an "HDMI error" message--and a black screen of death--when we switched inputs while the player was running. Blame game aside, we expect that HD-DVD early adopters will encounter their share of connectivity snafus.

8. Sluggish performance
One of biggest disappointments with Toshiba's first-gen player is how slow it is. Yeah, the first DVD players weren't jackrabbits either, but HD-A1 truly chugs--Windows XP loads faster on some PCs than HD-DVDs do on this thing, and certain button presses give new meaning to the word delay.

9. The smaller the display, the smaller the difference
So we compared the The Last Samurai HD-DVD to its DVD counterpart on a Panasonic TH-42PX60U 42-inch plasma. The standard DVD was in our reference player, the Denon DVD-3910 (outputting at 720p), while the HD-DVD was, naturally, in the HD-A1. We flipped back and forth between the TV's two HDMI inputs, and though the HD-DVD image was distinctly sharper and clearly had the edge, the difference wasn't huge. We're pretty certain, however, that you'll see a much bigger difference the bigger you go. As we wait to get a large HDTV back in our labs--say, something along the lines of a Sony KDS-R60XBR1 60-inch SXRD rear-pro or a higher-end front projector--we'll stick by our recommendation that at these prices, next-gen DVD players should interest only those with HDTVs of 50 inches or larger.

10. A dearth of discs
Originally, HD-DVD was supposed to launch with 30 discs, but that number shrunk to 4--and we ended up finding only 3 in stores the week of April 18. Any way you look it, that's a paltry number. By comparison, DVD had at least 30 titles available within the first month of the format's March 1997 debut. HD-DVD backers hope to have around 200 titles--by the end of 2006.don


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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #85 on: May 04, 2006 at 01:04 PM »

4. No 1080p output
The high-definition video output of first-generation HD-DVD players is limited to 720p or 1080i, not 1080p, which is currently the best high-def image you can get. With only a handful of HDTVs out there that accept and display a native 1080p signal, what's the big deal? For starters, 1080p is quickly becoming the new de facto gold standard for HDTVs, with 1080p inputs set to become a lowest common denominator for nearly all 2006 HDTVs. But the dearth of 1080p output is most frustrating, once you find out that HD-DVD movies are being mastered in 1080p--but that theoretically better picture quality will remain locked on the disc until 1080p HD-DVD players appear (sometime in 2007, if not earlier). Needless to say, it's a bummer to not get 1080p right out of the gate, especially when first-gen Blu-ray players will offer it. I don't need to be completely future-proofed, but give me some basic protection, please.


This really shouldn't be a problem.  1080i resolution has ALL the information you need to recompose the picture into 1080p.  A player then doesn't need 1080i input abilities.  It only needs to have the chip to buffer the interlaced data and send a complete 1080p progressive signal to the TV. 

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5. Component video can be flagged
I almost wrote a full column on this issue alone. The unfortunate fact is that studios can encode their discs with an image-constraint flag that downconverts the HD-DVD's output resolution to 960x540 when played through the analog component-video outputs, which lack the robust digital copy-protection of HDMI. That means discs that are so flagged will display only a quarter of their best possible resolution if you own one of the early HDTVs that are lacking digital video inputs (HDMI or HDCP-compatible DVI). Yes, Blu-ray discs carry the same restrictions, and almost all of the studios have tentatively agreed to no flag their initial batch of releases. But that still leaves early adopters at the mercy of the studio bosses, who can choose to reverse course at any time.


This is actually my concern about those HDTV kuno displays without HDMI or DVI ports now flooding the market.  Using analog component connection will downconvert HD-DVD signals to their HDTV sets.   Early titles will have no such constraints according to this article and others I've read.  So these early adopters of HD-DVD players and titles can benefit with true 1080i HD quality via analog component connection.  For now.  Until when, I hope much later, for the benefit of those using HDTV sets without digital connections. 

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10. A dearth of discs
Originally, HD-DVD was supposed to launch with 30 discs, but that number shrunk to 4--and we ended up finding only 3 in stores the week of April 18. Any way you look it, that's a paltry number. By comparison, DVD had at least 30 titles available within the first month of the format's March 1997 debut. HD-DVD backers hope to have around 200 titles--by the end of 2006.don


200 titles by the end of 2006.  I'll take note of that. 

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #86 on: May 04, 2006 at 05:18 PM »
I thought that's what the author implied as he mentioned:

"....unless you already have a high-definition television at least 40 inches in size, you won't notice much of a difference"  :)

This certainly reminds me of the conclusion we got with HDMI upconverting DVD players when pchin visited our house -  That the PQ difference doesnt seem to matter at 32" or below.

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9. The smaller the display, the smaller the difference
So we compared the The Last Samurai HD-DVD to its DVD counterpart on a Panasonic TH-42PX60U 42-inch plasma. The standard DVD was in our reference player, the Denon DVD-3910 (outputting at 720p), while the HD-DVD was, naturally, in the HD-A1. We flipped back and forth between the TV's two HDMI inputs, and though the HD-DVD image was distinctly sharper and clearly had the edge, the difference wasn't huge. We're pretty certain, however, that you'll see a much bigger difference the bigger you go. As we wait to get a large HDTV back in our labs--say, something along the lines of a Sony KDS-R60XBR1 60-inch SXRD rear-pro or a higher-end front projector--we'll stick by our recommendation that at these prices, next-gen DVD players should interest only those with HDTVs of 50 inches or larger.


Thats a relief to hear, I can wait a year then  ;D.

I cant wait when China gets a hold of this technology, affordable price plus no more component flagging (they will find a way, its just a matter of ...time) ;D
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #87 on: May 04, 2006 at 06:30 PM »
Chinese are very determine people you know.... ;D


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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #88 on: May 04, 2006 at 07:02 PM »
based on this, i think my first hd player won't be a toshiba hd-a1... ;D

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #89 on: May 05, 2006 at 02:11 PM »
Munskie,

you're probably right. There's a more elaborate review of the Toshiba A1 HD-DVD player in DVDTown. It seems there are even problems with the remote controller.