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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #750 on: Jan 31, 2007 at 05:35 PM »
Sony really needs to catch up in the online gaming department. 24k for a 60gb ps3 sounds good.
This is a different war though but i admit that i like the wii gameplay wise 8)

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« Reply #751 on: Jan 31, 2007 at 05:35 PM »
This servers will be unified come March when PS3 is launched in PAL Regions.
That is what I read from IGN.

About the PS Store, I am not 100 percent sure that this is the setup.
But this is what I have read and I have yet to come accross some users who refute this.

They are really playing catch-up pa but they are quite fast to resolve them.
Like the PS2 Graphical Glitch and the 720p issue.
The Glitch has been resolved with a firmware upgrade.
The 720p is (resolved?) with a new SDK. (Eto nabasa ko though I couldn't understand the context).

Can anybody refute my understanding on the PS3 Server and Store setup?
Calling iampoch...



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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #752 on: Jan 31, 2007 at 06:20 PM »
Meron din na mention sa PinoyPSX na 24k na lang yung PS3 20GB Jap version sa G'Hills... :o :o

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #753 on: Jan 31, 2007 at 06:27 PM »
Sony really needs to catch up in the online gaming department. 24k for a 60gb ps3 sounds good.
This is a different war though but i admit that i like the wii gameplay wise 8)

How much more costly is the 60gb PS3 over the lower version?

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #754 on: Jan 31, 2007 at 06:36 PM »
On PS3 Server access and PS Store:

According to a member at pinoypsx, Server connection is really dependent on
the unit. So, if you have a Jap PS3, you will be connected to a Jap Server, so on and so forth.

But, this is en exception to the game Resistance wherein all of online gamers are connected to
the US Server.

And Indeed, a unified server is to be launched in March 2007.

On the PS Store naman, you can access ung ibang Store regardless of what unit you have.
You just have to create an account for a correspondidng PS Store.

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« Reply #755 on: Jan 31, 2007 at 11:52 PM »
HD-DVD Contents List updated Jan 29

http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/list/list.pdf

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #756 on: Feb 01, 2007 at 07:46 AM »
On PS3 Server access and PS Store:

According to a member at pinoypsx, Server connection is really dependent on
the unit. So, if you have a Jap PS3, you will be connected to a Jap Server, so on and so forth.

But, this is en exception to the game Resistance wherein all of online gamers are connected to
the US Server.

And Indeed, a unified server is to be launched in March 2007.

On the PS Store naman, you can access ung ibang Store regardless of what unit you have.
You just have to create an account for a correspondidng PS Store.

Cheers.


Hehe yups everything above checks out  ;D di ako makapost kahapon after office e  ;D Sorry  ;D For now, there isn't an existing Asian Server as far as I know. From what's been said, Sony's contemplating on where the server should reside, Korea and Taiwan are the most likely candidates. It'll be finalized by March coinciding with PS3's European Launch, if it hasn't been finalized already, that is. I wasn't able to keep up recently so my knowledge may already be outdated.

Game publishers are also given free reign when it comes to the online component of their games. Yup, Sony's got a lot of catching up to do when it comes to refining the online experience, but we have to remember online gaming comes free  ;D so i can live with that  :D

@ av_phile:

Mga 10k ang difference between the 20gb and the 60gb version. If you're only after gaming and occassional movies, go for the 20GB version. The HDD is user-swappable anyway because it uses standard 2.5" SATA. Sony even encourages it by including instruction on how to DIY the HDD swap in the user's manual and is really quite easy. The only relevant bells and whistles you'll lose anyway are the WiFi connection and the card reader, which to some gamers are a big SO WHAT? Unfortunately, WiFi's a big issue for me, since my lifetime project is a Smart Home (WiFi is one part of that project) and I'd rather have the WiFi built-in instead of buying an optional adaptor which is still non-existent. No one has ever experimented on using the WiFi adaptors for the PC. Theoretically they should work.
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #757 on: Feb 01, 2007 at 09:49 AM »
@ av_phile:

Mga 10k ang difference between the 20gb and the 60gb version. If you're only after gaming and occassional movies, go for the 20GB version. The HDD is user-swappable anyway because it uses standard 2.5" SATA. Sony even encourages it by including instruction on how to DIY the HDD swap in the user's manual and is really quite easy. The only relevant bells and whistles you'll lose anyway are the WiFi connection and the card reader, which to some gamers are a big SO WHAT? Unfortunately, WiFi's a big issue for me, since my lifetime project is a Smart Home (WiFi is one part of that project) and I'd rather have the WiFi built-in instead of buying an optional adaptor which is still non-existent. No one has ever experimented on using the WiFi adaptors for the PC. Theoretically they should work.

Thanks for the info.  Can't you use an external HDD with it via USB?

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #758 on: Feb 01, 2007 at 10:09 AM »
How much more costly is the 60gb PS3 over the lower version?
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In Japan, approximately 4K pesos more based on current exchange rates.   20K pesos for a blu-ray player/HD game console.  Not bad ne.  If only there were tons of good next gen games and bd movies already available.
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #759 on: Feb 01, 2007 at 10:13 AM »
Would prefer the 60gb too...WIFI is important to me..... :)

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #760 on: Feb 01, 2007 at 10:13 AM »

Game publishers are also given free reign when it comes to the online component of their games. Yup, Sony's got a lot of catching up to do when it comes to refining the online experience, but we have to remember online gaming comes free  ;D so i can live with that  :D

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I paid 4700 yen (approx. $40) for a 13-month (12+1) subscription to Xbox Live.   $3 per month for awesome online gaming experience.  10 cents a day.  Is that so much to pay for the experience Now?
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #761 on: Feb 01, 2007 at 10:23 AM »
Would prefer the 60gb too...WIFI is important to me..... :)
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WiFi and card reader are not at all relevant to me at the moment, but 4K difference does not feel to be that much either.  There's just no compelling reason yet, for me to get a PS3 at this time. 

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #762 on: Feb 01, 2007 at 10:43 AM »
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I paid 4700 yen (approx. $40) for a 13-month (12+1) subscription to Xbox Live.   $3 per month for awesome online gaming experience.  10 cents a day.  Is that so much to pay for the experience Now?


Wow, ganun lang pala ka-cheap ang online gaming ng xbox. P5 a day.  Not bad, if it gives you all the gaming thrills TODAY.  Sulit na sulit if you play games online for 3 hours a day.  I am sure gamers spend more time than that.   ;D
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #763 on: Feb 01, 2007 at 10:45 AM »
@ av_phile:

Yes you can, though external HDDs are mainly used for backing up, not for future main functionalities. Then again, firmware updates can solve that if sony sees the need (using externall HDDs for backups were fixed in version 1.3.1 of the firmware)

@ Clondalkin:

Well, yes it's an issue for me considering that I pay for other bills like broadband internet access, etc. Whatever's given for free I'll joyfully accept :) This is also the reason why Guild Wars is the only MMO I ever bothered to try playing nothing beats free online gaming :) Besides, Resistance is a blast in online :) 40-player lag-free fragging :) And the semi-online Tekken Tag 5: Dark Resurrection is great as well. More games are on the way, with MotorStorm and VF5 so, the wait's not that long

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #764 on: Feb 01, 2007 at 06:03 PM »
Finally: VideoScan Releases High-Def Disc Sales Numbers



After over six months of head-to-head combat, we finally have an all-inclusive independent yardstick against which to compare Blu-ray and HD DVD disc sales, thanks to the first public release of sales numbers from Neilsen VideoScan.

Nielsen VideoScan is home entertainment industry's leading source for competitive sales info, tracking point-of-sale data from all channels of video distribution including mass merchants, audio/video retailers, electronics outlets, grocery stores, drug stores, and internet sites.

And while the numbers are still not quite as crispy as we'd like (you won't find any hard sales figures here -- only an index of how each format is faring against the other), they do suggest some trending that's likely to be music to the ears of Blu-ray supporters.

According to VideoScan, during the first two weeks of January, Blu-ray discs outsold HD DVD by more than a 2:1 margin. It should be noted that the two weeks in question saw only two new high-def disc releases -- both from Blu-ray ('The Covenant' on Jan 2, and 'Crank' on Jan 9).

More interestingly, VideoScan's numbers indicate that during the seven days between Jan 7 and Jan 14, Blu-ray managed to close the gap of total discs sold since inception with HD DVD by over seven percentage points, suggesting that if the current trend continues, the two formats could be at disc sales parity within weeks.

The release of this VideoScan data follows months of speculation and conjecture on both sides of the fence. While format boosters have released sales figures for hardware, the studios have held high-def disc sales numbers close to their vests, leaving fans to parse Amazon sales charts and analyst reports in search of some sense of who's "winning" the format war.

With the anticipated continued weekly release of these numbers, supporters of both formats should have a somewhat more definitive yardstick against which to measure their format's disc sales prowess. As always, stay tuned...

More information:

From an interview with Jim Bottoms, co-founder of research firm Understanding & Solutions:

* More than 70% of people buying a PS3 have a strong interest in acquiring movies for it.

* Until the PS3 was launched, software sales were probably three to one in HD DVD's favor.

* Once the PS3 came out, BD volume per title grew something like 700%.



http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Industry_Trends/Disc_Sales/Finally:_VideoScan_Releases_High-Def_Disc_Sales_Numbers_/456


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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #765 on: Feb 04, 2007 at 09:56 PM »
Porn maker won't reveal Blu-ray Disc partner
Friday 02 Feb 2007 - 09:50

Vivid Entertainment Group will become the first adult-film maker to put out a movie in Blu-ray Disc when it releases "Debbie Does Dallas...Again" in late March, but it's not saying who is helping it make copies of the discs. ...


http://www.digitmag.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=7115
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #766 on: Feb 05, 2007 at 08:37 AM »
From thedigitalbits

We've also finally heard back from Warner per our high-def inquiry from early last week. We've spoken today with Warner Home Video's VP of HD Media Development, Dan Silverberg, about the studio's support of both the HD-DVD and Blu-ray Disc formats moving forward. Here's what he had to say:

"WHV's objective is to have triple day and date releases for all new theatrical titles on DVD, HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc. We began this with The Lake House and more recently Superman Returns and Ant Bully. As for our catalog titles, we would like to have simultaneous HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc releases. Again, this is something we have done recently with National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation and A Christmas Story, and will be doing with Scooby-Doo and Alexander: The Director's Cut, as well as recent DVD releases coming soon to high def like Wickerman and Beerfest, both being the unrated versions.

We also plan to make every effort to "catch-up" the 2006 titles currently only out on HD DVD with the Blu-ray versions in 2007. There are two reasons that the discrepancy exists. One has to do with the interactivity layer for BD with respect to picture-in-picture functionality. Some of our titles like Batman Begins and V for Vendetta have extensive interactive experiences and we don't want the Blu-ray consumer to have a "lesser" experience. We expect that this enhanced interactivity will be ready on the Blu-ray side soon. The other reason had to do with length of movies and the availability of 50 GB discs. That situation has already improved, as the releases of Unforgiven, Last Samurai and Goodfellas (1/16) show. We are also working on Enter the Dragon and a few others for early 2007 Blu-ray release as part of that "catching up" plan."
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #767 on: Feb 05, 2007 at 09:48 PM »
go Blu-Ray!

I hope blu-ray will become the standard media for games, music and movies just like what happened to DVD. If that happened, we can have a blu-ray writer and backup our 100gb data's on a cheap single disc. And if we can backup a 100gb of data on a single disc, that means hardisk manufacturer for our PC's, Ipods, and any gadgets using hardisk will lower their price. A 100gb hardrive will become obsolete so PC users will enjoy lots of terrabytes of storage! We can now forget the .mp3 file format and enjoy uncompressed audio! Imagine that  :)

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #768 on: Feb 05, 2007 at 11:02 PM »
HD DVD Deception... >:( >:(


Apology for our Contents List

http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/list.html

The inclusion in the January 29 update of our "Coming Soon List" of three Steven Spielberg classics was an error on our part. The HD DVD Promotion Group expresses sincere apologies to Steven Spielberg, Universal Studios Home Entertainment and HD DVD fans for this mistake. We will endeavor to prevent any similar mistake and to provide accurate information.


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« Reply #769 on: Feb 06, 2007 at 02:43 AM »
This will take a while, competition is always good to keep things honest.

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #770 on: Feb 06, 2007 at 03:35 AM »
Yeah, that's why i just sit back and relax, then grab some popcorns (while watching my DVDs) heheheh.

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« Reply #771 on: Feb 06, 2007 at 10:40 AM »
Yeah, that's why i just sit back and relax, then grab some popcorns (while watching my DVDs) heheheh.
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I am having a hard time sitting back and waiting for new HD DVD titles because I already have an HD DVD player.  If it's any consolation, The Departed in HD is just a week away from release.

I am having a hard time sitting back and waiting for new BD titles because PS3 is "reasonably cheap" in Tokyo already.

Alvin, there are BD recorders in the market but the cheapest one right now is as "cheap" as a 32 inch Bravia...he he he



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First Use: LG's Dual HDTV DVD Player
« Reply #772 on: Feb 06, 2007 at 11:02 AM »
First Use: LG's Dual HDTV DVD Player

By Jim Mahon
HD Observer

Editor's Note: LG has just introduced a new DVD player that will play both Blu-ray and HD-DVD high-def DVDs. The player is priced at $1199. HD Observer Jim Mahon recounts his experience when the dual-format player arrived at his home.

Washington, D.C. (February 5, 2007) -- I ordered the LG BH100 Dual HDTV DVD Player from the Circuit City website on January 23 and took delivery January 27. It comes in a nice blue box that advertises 1080p in very large print.

I hooked it up via a HDMI cable to a full HD 1080p television, the Panasonic TH-65PX600U; loaded a full  HD 1080p Blu-ray DVD, and the DVD player would not output full HD 1080p. The best it would do is 1080i.

The menu would not let me select 1080p output. The 1080p selection was "grayed" out. I called both LG and Panasonic technical support. After much tweaking with LG tech support, LG told me to send the unit back to them. My unit was picked up today by DHL, and I hope to get it back next week.

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What a start for LG's dual format player...initial review has failed na   ;D


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« Reply #773 on: Feb 06, 2007 at 05:42 PM »
HD DVD Promotions Group to Spielberg Fans: Whoops!



Before enticing HD DVD fans with the promise of titles by Hollywood's biggest director, perhaps someone at the HD DVD Promotions Group should have given Steven Spielberg a call first?

The possibility of some of Spielberg's biggest hits coming to HD DVD first lit up the web following a January 29 update of the HD DVD Promotions Group official "Coming Soon" HD DVD release list. The web site added three of the director's biggest Universal blockbusters ('Jaws,' 'Jurassic Park' and 'E.T.') to its release schedule, causing a fast and widespread wave of excitement among early adopters. Fans not only continue to highly anticipate the first Spielberg blockbusters in high-def, but consider the combo of the director's top titles and Universal's HD DVD-exclusive support to be one of the format's biggest weapons against rival Blu-ray.

The Promotions Group, which is the official umbrella PR organization for the HD DVD Forum (which includes primary format backers Universal and Toshiba), updates its schedule routinely, and its "Coming Soon" list is considered one of the key indicators of new titles expected on the format.

Unfortunately, it seems the Spielberg trio was a bit premature. Today, the HD DVD Promotional Group has removed the offending titles from its list, and issued a full apology via its website:

The inclusion in the January 29 update of our 'Coming Soon List' of three Steven Spielberg classics was an error on our part. The HD DVD Promotion Group expresses sincere apologies to Steven Spielberg, Universal Studios Home Entertainment and HD DVD fans for this mistake. We will endeavor to prevent any similar mistake and to provide accurate information.

As for Universal's response to the news, they continue to express the same sentiments as always regarding any big A-list titles from top directors. A request for comment from the studio brought this now-canned response, first made by Ken Graffeo, EVP of Universal Studios Home Entertainment, regarding the studio's 2007 HD DVD plans:

Universal feels the key to getting a great HD DVD disc is filmmaker participation. They have been educating filmmakers about the possibilities for interactivity, picture and sound available with HD DVD. There are other challenges like scheduling that come into play when working on DVD/HD DVD releases with filmmakers. Universal is committed to working with filmmakers whenever possible to put out the best quality presentation they can.

At the risk of sounding cynical, we can't say we're particularly surprised by this news. As battle-scarred survivors of the early DVD days -- when Spielberg notoriously held off the release of any of his major titles from the format for years -- this is par for the course. Spielberg and fellow behemoth George Lucas have never been known to quickly embrace new home video formats, and we expect that won't change anytime soon -- especially with a next-gen battle raging, and no clear winner yet in sight.

Of course, we all want the biggest and the best movies on high-def as soon as possible, including those by Spielberg. So as we all continue to dream of next-gen dinosaurs and man-eating sharks, watch this space and we'll keep you posted on any further developments.



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« Reply #774 on: Feb 11, 2007 at 03:29 PM »
Sony's New Blu-ray Marketing Theme: Format War is Over



Seizing on widely reported January sales numbers from Neilsen VideoScan, a Sony executive said Friday that the studio plans to begin marketing Blu-ray as the winner of the high-def format war.

Sony Pictures Home Entertainment worldwide president David Bishop made the comments to trade newspaper Video Business in reaction to widely reported Neilsen/VideoScan sales figures indicating that Blu-ray discs outsold HD DVD in January by a ratio of 2:1.
 
 "The message that we’re going to put out to the consumer now is, now it is safe to make a choice," explained Bishop. "No more fence-sitting is needed... We have a critical mass of content, we have the biggest mass of consumer electronics companies in the world supporting this format. That has moved Blu-ray into the forefront."

Adding further credence to the previously-released VideoScan numbers, studio sources told Video Business that for the first three weeks of January, the top selling Blu-ray title ('Crank') sold 7,500 units, while the top selling HD DVD title ('Batman Begins') sold 4,100 units. In a business traditionally dominated by new release disc sales, 'Batman Begins' on HD DVD is something of an anomaly, as it was released back in November.

And yet while all agree that it was a strong month for Blu-ray, opinion is split on whether the surge in sales is an indicator of stronger user adaption of Blu-ray compared to HD DVD, or simply a reflection of the larger number of new Blu-ray titles that hit the market over the month -- 25 new Blu-ray titles were released in January, compared to just 11 titles on HD DVD for the same period.

One thing is for sure -- after months of playing the underdog to HD DVD, Blu-ray is now the format to beat. And with many more announced titles for Blu-ray in the coming months than there are announced titles for HD DVD, it doesn't look like this overall trend will reverse itself any time soon.

Expect the next round of mainstream punditry to come later this month with the release of the per-format sales figures for two of February's most eagerly anticipated dual format titles, 'Babel' and 'The Departed.' An apples-to-apples comparison of disc sales of the same title on both formats is expected to serve as a leading indicator of consumer acceptance for both HD DVD and Blu-ray.

As always, stay tuned...


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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #775 on: Feb 12, 2007 at 05:20 AM »
Still sitting on the fence here. I'm inclined to get PS3 but when I learned that it cannot play upconvert.I declined. No big deal! But now that I learned that ,it cannot play movies on 720p. I have to wait again.
There's something to learn everyday

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« Reply #776 on: Feb 12, 2007 at 07:30 AM »
Still sitting on the fence here. I'm inclined to get PS3 but when I learned that it cannot play upconvert.I declined. No big deal! But now that I learned that ,it cannot play movies on 720p. I have to wait again.
PS3 cant play BD movies at 720p?

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #777 on: Feb 12, 2007 at 08:32 AM »
You can output PS3 at the highest resolution 1080p & let your HD display scale it to its native resolution 720p :)

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« Reply #778 on: Feb 12, 2007 at 08:49 AM »
ok.....thanks a lot paul.... :)

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #779 on: Feb 12, 2007 at 09:21 AM »
the ps3 can also output 1080i for displays that don't support 1080p