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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #990 on: Mar 21, 2007 at 10:44 PM »
Yep, buying online is much cheaper! Amazon is selling HD-A2 at $357 with FREE shipping!  ;)
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #991 on: Mar 21, 2007 at 10:52 PM »
....its downstreaming to my AVR as Dolby Pro-Logic IIx....not bad...not bad at all..... :)  of course given my equipment limitations, if I have a choice in a title with a BD or HD DVD version, I would choose the latter, especially if it has Dolby TrueHD.......the PS3 doesnt have analog 5.1.....

That's the feeling of most early adopters with players for both formats.  HD DVD already has iHD (or HDi) for cool interactive features whereas BD-J isn't yet available in BD titles.  DolbyTrueHD is mandatory in HD DVD but optional in BD which has PCM 5.1 instead (eats up more storage space for the same quality).  Only the PS3 has DolbyTrueHD processing among BD players at the moment and has dual video streaming to support BD-J.   So given a title released in both formats, most if not all early neutral HD adopters would get the HD DVD version.

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #992 on: Mar 21, 2007 at 11:00 PM »
That's the feeling of most early adopters with players for both formats.  HD DVD already has iHD (or HDi) for cool interactive features whereas BD-J isn't yet available in BD titles.
tumpak sir AV!!  in BD, when I go to the menu, its still DVD style wherein the movie stops (though it resumes when you go back) and goes to the menu....not in HD DVD, the movie never stops when you access the menu, the settings etc....you never have to leave the movie.   One point for HD DVD here........

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #993 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 07:26 AM »
Toshiba chops $100 off HD DVD player




Today, AOL's Engadget reported that according to some alleged retail insiders who frequent the AVS Forum message boards, the much-rumored price drop on HD DVD players is about to become a reality. According to said blogger, on April 1 the HD-A2 will be repriced at $399 MSRP (down from $499) and the $799 HD-XA2 will also shed $100. That all may be true, but the fact is a quick check over at Amazon would reveal that the price cuts are already in effect. The HD-A2 is $356.99 and the HD-XA2 is sitting at a cool $599.99.

Lazy reporting aside (we are all guilty of it at one time or another), the big question is whether the price cuts will actually make a serious difference. At this point, the majority of sales of next-gen DVD players appear tied to the game consoles (the PS3 has a built-in Blu-ray, and the XBox 360 has an add-on HD DVD player for $200), and neither format stands to make big gains in the standalone market until the players get down below $250--and maybe even less.

I don't want to call Toshiba desperate, but when it's offering five free HD DVD movies with the purchase of a player, that sounds like the company is having trouble enticing folks to buy in. (If my memory serves, in the early days of DVD, some companies were offering three free DVDs, but not as many as five.) It also doesn't help when the New York Post is writing articles that quote analysts saying retailers will be pulling the plug on HD DVD in 2008. True, it's the Post. But people make a bad habit of believing what they read.



Anybody can be entitled to their opinion. Whats a shame is some of these press, editorials, BD promotional group put out garbage that the war is over, war will be over by next year, etc. etc. If they are saying toshiba is desperate bec of the free movies, etc. etc., then I can also say Sony is desperate by  saying they will be having a BD player (bd-300 I think) in the 300 dollar range by the end of the year, or something. To each his own marketing, strategy or whatever. As of now nobody knows what will happen. For all these people predicting or forecasting that hddvd will die by this year or next year, Please, please give me a forecast or prediction of what stocks will make money by next year or what are the lotto numbers for August. If I win the lotto I will give them a fair share of my winnings.

 

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #994 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 07:45 AM »
DolbyTrueHD is mandatory in HD DVD but optional in BD which has PCM 5.1 instead (eats up more storage space for the same quality).

Not quite. It seems at the moment only Warner Bros releases their HD-DVD tittles in THD (but not all) while others only in D+. Hopefully, we will see more studios to implement THD in future. THD is indeed sounds better than D+. :)

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #995 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 07:55 AM »
Wow Happy Feet a must have in HD.....both format a perfect 5 stars in PQ rating...Warner is really doing good in its HD releases....


Happy Feet HD DVD review


Happy Feet Blu-ray review

Warner though sells Blu-ray short for this release as it has no uncompressed PCM 5.1 on this release (only DD-EX) compared to HD DVD's Dolby TrueHD soundtrack.


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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #996 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 07:58 AM »
Wow Happy Feet a must have in HD.....both format a perfect 5 stars in PQ rating...Warner is really doing good in its HD releases....

Warner though sells Blu-ray short for this release as it has no uncompressed PCM 5.1 on this release (only DD-EX) compared to HD DVD's Dolby TrueHD soundtrack.

Good to hear that! I'm ordering mine soon. For those of you who are NEUTRAL, I guess the choice is obvious of which format to buy. Dolby TrueHD rocks!  ;)

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #997 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 08:01 AM »
Good to hear that! I'm ordering mine soon. For those of you who are NEUTRAL, I guess the choice is obvious of which format to buy. Dolby TrueHD rocks!  ;)
yuppers...thanks to analog 5.1  ;D ;D

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #998 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 09:55 AM »
...The moneyed HT afficionadoes who have them won't determine the winning format.  The two formats will just end up like DVD-A/SACD if it was limited to the moneyed videophiles.  Selling the players cheap won't because the masses won't see any dramatic advantage on their regular 21" TVs the way DVD had over VHS.  HD won't mean a thing to them as its advantage is evident only at 42" HDTV screens and above.  The two must go together in becoming affordable for HD to penetrate mass HT the way DVD has.

Hmmm... Reminds of the Marcoses.  Remain steadfast to your lies up to the end.  And the public will believe they're true.   ;D

Agree with most of your opinion except as regards the minimum size of HDTV.  At least for my eyes, a very good 26V HDTV (I am not referring to PC monitor class LCD which are mostly made of inferior panel (TN) technology) is more than capable of displaying the full advantages of hi-def.  You just have to watch close enough.  Even some of those surplus 32 inch HD CRTs in Pier should be more than sufficient for hi-def viewing, if you get the right model and you're lucky enough to find one in proper working condition.  I've also tested the HD DVD on a locally purchased Sony 29DBM60 and the PQ was quite fine, albeit again, since a 29 inch CRT would be reduced to something like 22 or 24 incher in widescreen, you should watch closer to appreciate the improvements.

OT.  I was in grade school during the Martial Law years.  I remember our Social Studies teacher telling us that the Philippines would become another Vietnam if Marcos were not there...and if Marcos died, there was nobody else capable enough to lead the country...I was scared of that thought like most of my classmates.

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #999 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 10:10 AM »
Can somebody enlighten us all with regard to the actual process of manufacturing a hi-def movie on disk, BD or HD whatever.  I understand that there are certain minimum periods after theater release before new movies are allowed to be sold in discs, but what about catalogue titles?  Is it just a matter of pressing a blu or violet ray disc or the transfer itself is a long and tedious process?   Or is it all bureaucracy or some kind of wait and see marketing game at the moment?

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #1000 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 11:03 AM »
Agree with most of your opinion except as regards the minimum size of HDTV.  At least for my eyes, a very good 26V HDTV (I am not referring to PC monitor class LCD which are mostly made of inferior panel (TN) technology) is more than capable of displaying the full advantages of hi-def.  You just have to watch close enough.  Even some of those surplus 32 inch HD CRTs in Pier should be more than sufficient for hi-def viewing, if you get the right model and you're lucky enough to find one in proper working condition.  I've also tested the HD DVD on a locally purchased Sony 29DBM60 and the PQ was quite fine, albeit again, since a 29 inch CRT would be reduced to something like 22 or 24 incher in widescreen, you should watch closer to appreciate the improvements.


Yes, forgot to mention about viewing distance.  On a 42" HDTV, the advantage of HD is obvious at a distance below 1.5 meters, 2 m max maybe.   At 4 m you can't distinguish between 720p and 1080p.  And at 6m, you hardly can distinguish between properly upscaled 480i and true 1080p.  So I would think using 32" TVs, provided they have a native resolution of at least 720p, the advantage of HD becomes obvious when you're 2-3ft away max.  And if you are using HTPC with a 20" LCD HDTV widescreen, you get the HD advantage at the usual distance of 1-2ft away from the screen when working on a PC. 

But again the problem is, the masses are so used to having viewing distance from their 21" or 29" TVs of at least 3-4 meters either in the sala or bedroom. They defintely won't see the advantage of HD when whey change their generic DVD players to an HD player.  At those viewing distance, at least a 60" 1080p HDTV will make the HD advantage quite obvious to be worth the expense.   ;D

Since we're on the topic of viewing distance vs screen size vs resolution, here's a nice handy table on the subject:



A larger size here:
http://www.carltonbale.com/wp-content/uploads/resolution_chart.png

It should be plain from that chart that the advantage of HD gets more evident the closer you are to the screen.  The higher the resolution, the closer you have to be to the screen to see the advantage.  And that is why large flat panel HDTVs are so popular in Japan where typical city rooms are small, usually just around 9 sqm with a viewing distance of roughly just around 2 meters from where you are seated.
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MATRIX COMING TO HD DVD
« Reply #1001 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 11:12 AM »
HOLD YOUR BREATH HD FANS!!!!!

MAY 22 IS THE DAY!!

MATRIX TRILOGY IS COMING TO HD DVD!!!



In one of the biggest catalog announcements yet for HD DVD, Warner Home Video has set a May 22 arrival for two extensive box set collections of the blockbuster 'Matrix' series.

The revolutionary sci-fi trilogy, which grossed over $600 million in the U.S. alone, has long been rumored to be in the planning stages for next-gen release. Thought to be a "killer app" -- the kind of trojan horse title that would entice non-early adopters into the high-def fold -- Warner is already gearing up for one of its biggest-ever HD DVD releases.

The studio will unleash two different configurations, both streeting simultaneously on May 22.

'The Complete Matrix Trilogy' will span three discs and include each film in the trilogy -- 'The Matrix,' 'The Matrix Reloaded' and 'The Matrix Revolutions' -- plus a four bonus disc with extras, 'The Matrix: Revisited.' Each film will also include an Interactive Movie Experience (IME) feature exclusive to the HD DVD, which will deliver an video commentary featuring interviews with the cast and filmmakers, behind-the-scenes footage and more.

'The Ultimate Matrix Collection' will replicate the extensive standard-def box set of the same name which debuted two years ago. In addition to the three IME-enhanced 'Matrix' titles and 'The Matrix Revisited,' an additional 35 hours of bonus materials will be included.

Warner has not yet issued full specs for either box set, including whether what, if any, supplemental features will be presented in 1080p. But we'll certainly keep you posted.

Suggested list price will be $99.99 for 'The Complete Matrix Trilogy' and, for only $20 more, you can grab 'The Ultimate Matrix Collection' for $119.99.

No Blu-ray version of either 'Matrix' set has been announced. However, Warner says it plans to release a comparable version later this year, once Blu-ray's much-touted BD-Java environment is finally ready for prime time.




TAKE THE  THE RED DISC?  OR THE BLUE DISC;D ;D ;D
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #1002 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 11:33 AM »
Yup, the Matrix set on HDDVD is also the current flavour of the month for some forums out there.  Highly anticipated.  Here's something to whet your appetite guys:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=64356.0

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« Reply #1003 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 11:40 AM »
I believe this has the potential of going number 1 in Amazon top seller's list!  After all BD's Casino Royale had already cracked the top 10......

I bet Warner will release this with Dolby TrueHD............those who are sitting on the fence of going HD....now its a great time to do it folks..... ;D ;D

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« Reply #1004 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 11:56 AM »



"This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blu pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. "
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #1005 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 12:34 PM »
Munskie

When are going to my place? Watch Casino Royale last night with uncompressed 5.1 pcm and the sound is teriffic to say the least. ;D
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #1006 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 12:40 PM »
Yes, forgot to mention about viewing distance.  On a 42" HDTV, the advantage of HD is obvious at a distance below 1.5 meters, 2 m max maybe.   At 4 m you can't distinguish between 720p and 1080p.  And at 6m, you hardly can distinguish between properly upscaled 480i and true 1080p.  So I would think using 32" TVs, provided they have a native resolution of at least 720p, the advantage of HD becomes obvious when you're 2-3ft away max.  And if you are using HTPC with a 20" LCD HDTV widescreen, you get the HD advantage at the usual distance of 1-2ft away from the screen when working on a PC. 

But again the problem is, the masses are so used to having viewing distance from their 21" or 29" TVs of at least 3-4 meters either in the sala or bedroom. They defintely won't see the advantage of HD when whey change their generic DVD players to an HD player.  At those viewing distance, at least a 60" 1080p HDTV will make the HD advantage quite obvious to be worth the expense.   ;D

Since we're on the topic of viewing distance vs screen size vs resolution, here's a nice handy table on the subject:



A larger size here:
http://www.carltonbale.com/wp-content/uploads/resolution_chart.png

It should be plain from that chart that the advantage of HD gets more evident the closer you are to the screen.  The higher the resolution, the closer you have to be to the screen to see the advantage.  And that is why large flat panel HDTVs are so popular in Japan where typical city rooms are small, usually just around 9 sqm with a viewing distance of roughly just around 2 meters from where you are seated.

I am sitting at 12.5 ft from a 106 inch screen with a 1080p PJ. The chart explains why 1080p is much better than 720p provided you have 1080i/p as your source. On second though, even Standard definition DVD's look great :D
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #1007 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 12:45 PM »
Munskie

When are going to my place? Watch Casino Royale last night with uncompressed 5.1 pcm and the sound is teriffic to say the least. ;D
just quite busy kong alvin......ill make a sched next week......the sad part for me though is....baka masanay ako sa 1080p PJ mo at hdmi connected audio.......
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #1008 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 12:52 PM »
I was so impressed with the sound that words cannot descibe what I heard. This is the reason I want to show it to you. Just call ahead and bring some software that you are familiar with so that we can compare notes. :D
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #1009 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 12:56 PM »
I am sitting at 12.5 ft from a 106 inch screen with a 1080p PJ. The chart explains why 1080p is much better than 720p provided you have 1080i/p as your source. On second though, even Standard definition DVD's look great :D

I sit at a distance of approx 1.8m (5.9 ft) from a 37V Sharp Aquos and the PQ is definitely awesome.  If it were full HD panel, I could sit as close as 1.4m and I imagine the immersion factor would even be greater (as well as eye fatigue and headache).  If I move back towards the dining area (he he he), then the "hi-def/3d factor" diminishes until I reach a far enough distance where I could hardly distinguish between hi-def and DVD clarity, except perhaps the hi-def version appears to have a wider shot, and the colors are very vibrant.
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Re: MATRIX COMING TO HD DVD
« Reply #1010 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 01:22 PM »
HOLD YOUR BREATH HD FANS!!!!!

MAY 22 IS THE DAY!!

MATRIX TRILOGY IS COMING TO HD DVD!!!





I hear that this news was leaked to web forums before Warner Home Video could announce its official press release.  Somebody was overly anxious to respond to Blu ray fanboy taunts.   :D 
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #1011 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 01:27 PM »
it will come in Blu-ray naman........Warner is just waiting to for them to fix their BD-Java....

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« Reply #1012 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 01:30 PM »
Then why didn't Warner wait for BD's Java and then release the title simultaneously in both formats?

Warner probably got sick and tired of waiting for Blu ray.

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« Reply #1013 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 01:32 PM »
Then why didn't Warner wait for BD's Java and then release the title simultaneously in both formats?

Warner probably got sick and tired of waiting for Blu ray.
thats my guess too......

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« Reply #1014 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 02:27 PM »
Then why didn't Warner wait for BD's Java and then release the title simultaneously in both formats?

Warner probably got sick and tired of waiting for Blu ray.

Yup, they're waiting for BD-J to be implemented.

Actually if you asked some people, they'll tell you the release of Blu ray is half-baked and premature.  (I don't need to go back in time to recall that it's first releases in mpeg2 codec on BD25 was pathetic.)  BD at this time is really not as mature as or at par with HD DVD in many areas: (1) PiP interactivity (2)  Audio tracks  (3) old mpeg2 video codec.  Ofcourse (3) has raised a lot of debates in the first months of BD release and everything is settled now with most studios using VC1 and AVC/mpeg4. (Though Sony still insists on using mpeg2).  Except for BD-J, the disparities between the two are really more a result of the implemetatiion choices made by Sony/BDA rather than a technical limitation, as both formats are excellent in their specsheets.

In the area of audio tracks, DolbyTrueHD is not mandatory on BD, but optional.  For a supposedly NEXT GEN video format BD prefers not to use NEXT GEN audio codecs and prefers old PCM format.  (Understandly coz that's a SONY/Philips licensed product, same with mpeg2 for which it has many patents.)  Not that PCM is inferior or anything.  In fact, DolbyTrueHD and DTS-HD are actually decoded into PCM in the player, so you can have them streaming via HDMI 1.3.    The issue is more on storage efficiency than anything.  And so you can understand why BD50 is necessary. For most films and practical HT use, storage is not a problem with HD DVD with VC1 and DTH. But it becomes a limiting problem when you start to use mpeg2 and PCM5.1, together or singly.  Ofcourse studios are starting to release BD with the more advanced video and audio codecs.  But it somehow leaves a bad taste in the mouth that had it not been for HD DVD's stunning performance on VC1 and DTH, BD would probably be feeding its markets with mpeg2 and stickng to PCM for a much longer time.   

The final revelation is the BD-J interactivity facility that up to now is non-existent in BD discs.  Not only that, because interactivity is also a hardware concern requiring dual video streaming (main feature film and the supplementary features) at the same time, the hardware player must have some dual video processing chips to support this.  And sadly, only the PS3 supports this, no current standalone BD player can do interactive stuff even if the disc had BD-J.  HD DVD players have this feature, both hardware and software, from day one. 

The implication here is quite clear.  Once BD-J is implemented (rumored to be within this year), BD users can expect to double dip on new releases with this facility if they want it.  More importantly, for non-PS3 users, they would have to upgrade their BD players with new BD players that have the right hardware support for Picture-In-Picture interactivity.  This is not just a firmware upgrade issue.  This is a hardware issue, unfortunately.  If the player only has a single video processing chip, there is no way a firmware upgrade can make it interactive with PiP.  (You can make the analogy with some TV sets with PiP features. These TV sets have DUAL TV tuners.  You cannot have PiP with only one tuner.) 

Warner is perhaps right to wait rather than come out with a simultaneous release and disappoint BD customers - the same way that their MI3 release on BD was a poor copy of their HD DVD release in terms of interactivity.  I suppose all their BD releases are.  Judging from the contents on the Matrix HD DVD release, it's way too rich not to employ interactivity - the one very distingushing feature of HD over SD DVD, apart from PQ and SQ.  But Warner might just disasppoint their BD customers still since, even if their discs have BD-J, current standalone players don't, except for PS3. 

(There's actually one more spec missing in BD at this time.  Much has been said about their BD+ security on top of the AACS.  This is baiscally what enticed Fox and Disney to join BD exclusively.  But now not a single Blu Ray disc has BD+ because the specs have not been finalized yet.  Fox and Disney apparently are left holding an empty bag, as it were.  Ofcourse, BD+ will be implemented sooner or later.  Just like BD-J.  But such product lapses in the promises you see with the BD specs before it was released to me indicates the level of condescension SONY et al has for its customers. Compare that with HD DVD that has all the promised features from day one.)

Pardon the excess.  Just my thoughts.  ;D
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Re: MATRIX COMING TO HD DVD
« Reply #1015 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 02:33 PM »



"This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blu pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. "

Hanep!  You can actually see Lawrence Fishburne's "crater" complexion.

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #1016 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 03:02 PM »
a very costly May 22 for HD fans especially for neutrals...

HD DVD
May 22, 2007

    * The 40-Year-Old Virgin (Universal)
    * The Complete Matrix Trilogy (Warner) JUST LISTED!
    * Flags of Our Fathers (DreamWorks)
    * Freedom Writers (Paramount)
    * The Hurricane (2000) (Universal)
    * M:I-2 (Paramount)
    * Mission: Impossible (Paramount)
    * The Skeleton Key (Universal)
    * Smokey and the Bandit (Universal)

Blu-ray
May 22, 2007

    * Closer (Sony)
    * Flags of Our Fathers (DreamWorks)
    * Freedom Writers (Paramount)
    * M:I-2 (Paramount)
    * Mission: Impossible (Paramount)
    * Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (Buena Vista)
    * Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (Buena Vista)

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #1017 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 03:15 PM »
Can somebody enlighten us all with regard to the actual process of manufacturing a hi-def movie on disk, BD or HD whatever.  I understand that there are certain minimum periods after theater release before new movies are allowed to be sold in discs, but what about catalogue titles?  Is it just a matter of pressing a blu or violet ray disc or the transfer itself is a long and tedious process?   Or is it all bureaucracy or some kind of wait and see marketing game at the moment?

I think the process of actual production and replication of either format isn't that long. It's the mastering that can take weeks or months, especially if the studio had little time to plan for this while shooting on the film.  (I heard it's a lot easier stomping HD DVDs than BRs also.)  Some directors also take their sweet time releasing home versions of their work.  Like what happened with Star Wars as George Lucas mulled his options on what goes into the DVDs.  Same with Peter Jackson, though I heard the LOTR and Kingkong DVD features had been well planned so that the filming process was itself filmed in anticipation of these DVD features.  And we should also take note that studios would not release a home version if the theatrical run hasn't ended.  So 2-3 months after the moviehouse showing  is perhaps the earliest a DVD can be released.  And it might even be just bare-bone to begin with.  With the LE and SE editions coming out a year after.
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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #1018 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 03:17 PM »
at laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssstttttttttt, matrix trilogy in hd ;D

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Re: The War Begins...
« Reply #1019 on: Mar 22, 2007 at 03:25 PM »
at laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssstttttttttt, matrix trilogy in hd ;D
Trinity in those hot tight black leather suits........HOT!!!          Morpheus and his moon cratered face.......NOT!!  ;D ;D ;D