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Re: Recommend a Speaker
« Reply #2370 on: Jun 16, 2014 at 12:06 PM »
Thanks for all the ideas.

I can actually fit OMW3, but it would require weird placement. Ung sa left ko horizontal, sa right naman vertical, sa likod both verticals. Hehe. Hindi ba maaapektuhan ang soundfield?

I'm looking at OMW3's based on Frequency Response.

I'm also looking for speaker mounts as suggested by crazyhog.

Thanks guys!

How about in-ceiling speakers?  ;)
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« Reply #2371 on: Jun 16, 2014 at 12:18 PM »
How about in-ceiling speakers?  ;)

Good option din. Ganyan ang ginawa ko para malinis tignana ang walls ko. I mounted my speakers sa ceiling pero angled/tilted to the sweet spot, then covered them with the same cloth i used for the ceiling.

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« Reply #2372 on: Jun 16, 2014 at 03:37 PM »
If wala talagang makita sir, baka pwd DiY n lang nang bracket na a bit forward or may spacer just enough d tatama s drapes. Para within pa rin s 3ft s ear level at 90-110' un side surround.  Then FXi A4 / A6.

I think the Polk FXi A4/A6 would be the best options for XPeak's surround speakers.
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« Reply #2373 on: Jun 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM »
Anyone here compared da-ichi or crown HT systems(especially the FS, the new ones ha) to wharf(diamonds)? Just as good you think, basing on auditions or do you own both? Been deciding on which to buy. I feel their almost the same somewhat. But need general comments on this to solidify my claim, and buy it already! Because I've been prowling for a month or so for FS! What other brands can you recommend? I don't need brand names huh with hype on the side because the speaker tech right now is decent enough to offer good audio at meager prices. (Pioneer andrew Jones, Micca Mb42x, Fluance especially the SX series, wla lng dito sa pinas eh or mahal(pioneer)) Thanks. :) Budget 5-10k. Audio pref: I eat anything except Hip hop.
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« Reply #2374 on: Jun 18, 2014 at 12:34 PM »
Anyone here compared da-ichi or crown HT systems(especially the FS, the new ones ha) to wharf(diamonds)? Just as good you think, basing on auditions or do you own both? Been deciding on which to buy. I feel their almost the same somewhat. But need general comments on this to solidify my claim, and buy it already! Because I've been prowling for a month or so for FS! What other brands can you recommend? I don't need brand names huh with hype on the side because the speaker tech right now is decent enough to offer good audio at meager prices. (Pioneer andrew Jones, Micca Mb42x, Fluance especially the SX series, wla lng dito sa pinas eh or mahal(pioneer)) Thanks. :) Budget 5-10k. Audio pref: I eat anything except Hip hop.
budget 5 - 10 k? entire music/ht system?
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« Reply #2375 on: Jun 18, 2014 at 09:51 PM »
budget 5 - 10 k? entire music/ht system?

Ooops! My bad. As if meron na 5k n kumpletong 5.1 that would reach audiophile thumbs up? (Energy take classic? wla rin dito  ???)Haha. FS lng. Been to listening in style s shang knina. Inaudi ko ung missions mx series FS(Ung pinakamaliit, 22k). It was sweet... Lalo n ung separation, pati instrumental placement. Ang lki ng stage, medyo kahilo. Ung infinity primus nmn.... hhmmm... As detailed as the Missions pero lacking in sound stage? No clue... Hndi n ako nangahas magrequest pa ng ibang material ksi nababad n ako dun sa missions. haha. Kahiya na. Then of with the crown... Inaudi ko sa Crown showroom sa St. Francis Square... The BF655... And this... ewan ko lng ah.. bka may mga mag violent reaction dito... Lupet ng detail, almost the same as the missions and the infinity primus (newbies ears), lacking lang in refinement, medyo bright, screaching in higher vol. and undefined sound staging(wala n halos syang staging actually). Pero sa pagkain ng low freq. it can go and go (eto lng siguro plus niya.). Better than the missions? Ndi ko rin msyado mapinpoit, ksi hndi damped dun sa crown showroom. medyo tunog banyo. But yeah, for 7k, it can. Considering n sakura amp tsaka lumang toshiba player lng gmit nila dun then undamped pa. But then again, your memory can only retain 50-80 percent of what you last heard. Kaya konting alalay lng sa pangungulm ko. haha. Punta nlng kayo dun, for those people n nagtitipid, at wlng pakelam s brand but the sound n pdeng makuha without selling your liver. Go! P.S. hndi ako seller ng Crown, Newbie excitement lng so please be kind :) Hope my opinion helped! *end of rant*
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« Reply #2376 on: Jun 19, 2014 at 12:19 AM »
Sir Gabsilog. Kung ok lang na stretch ng konting ang budget for speaker FS. There's A-audio Genesis 12k lang ata sa speaker section ng  Pdvd. Ok yun.in terms of music and HT.

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« Reply #2377 on: Jun 19, 2014 at 08:33 AM »
Ooops! My bad. As if meron na 5k n kumpletong 5.1 that would reach audiophile thumbs up? (Energy take classic? wla rin dito  ???)Haha. FS lng. Been to listening in style s shang knina. Inaudi ko ung missions mx series FS(Ung pinakamaliit, 22k). It was sweet... Lalo n ung separation, pati instrumental placement. Ang lki ng stage, medyo kahilo. Ung infinity primus nmn.... hhmmm... As detailed as the Missions pero lacking in sound stage? No clue... Hndi n ako nangahas magrequest pa ng ibang material ksi nababad n ako dun sa missions. haha. Kahiya na. Then of with the crown... Inaudi ko sa Crown showroom sa St. Francis Square... The BF655... And this... ewan ko lng ah.. bka may mga mag violent reaction dito... Lupet ng detail, almost the same as the missions and the infinity primus (newbies ears), lacking lang in refinement, medyo bright, screaching in higher vol. and undefined sound staging(wala n halos syang staging actually). Pero sa pagkain ng low freq. it can go and go (eto lng siguro plus niya.). Better than the missions? Ndi ko rin msyado mapinpoit, ksi hndi damped dun sa crown showroom. medyo tunog banyo. But yeah, for 7k, it can. Considering n sakura amp tsaka lumang toshiba player lng gmit nila dun then undamped pa. But then again, your memory can only retain 50-80 percent of what you last heard. Kaya konting alalay lng sa pangungulm ko. haha. Punta nlng kayo dun, for those people n nagtitipid, at wlng pakelam s brand but the sound n pdeng makuha without selling your liver. Go! P.S. hndi ako seller ng Crown, Newbie excitement lng so please be kind :) Hope my opinion helped! *end of rant*

Congrats sir! Kinuha niyo na yun crown? Ano po ang meaning ng damped?

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« Reply #2378 on: Jun 19, 2014 at 12:03 PM »
Congrats sir! Kinuha niyo na yun crown? Ano po ang meaning ng damped?
I smell sarcasm. Pero eto : controlled or restrained. :) ung pader dun walng damping. damped walng foam, acoustic treatment whatever the crap that was. You get the point. :)
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« Reply #2379 on: Jun 19, 2014 at 12:07 PM »
I smell sarcasm. Pero eto : controlled or restrained. :) ung pader dun walng damping. damped walng foam, acoustic treatment whatever the crap that was. You get the point. :)

My apologies kung sarcasm for you. It was not my honest intention. Iba iba kasi minsan ang definition ng tao sa damped. I just wanted to clear it. I hope you understand. And yes sir, i get your point na.

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« Reply #2380 on: Jun 19, 2014 at 12:14 PM »
Sir Gabsilog. Kung ok lang na stretch ng konting ang budget for speaker FS. There's A-audio Genesis 12k lang ata sa speaker section ng  Pdvd. Ok yun.in terms of music and HT.

happy haunting.

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Ou nga e. Maganda yng kay sir anthony, konting ipon lng. Thank you s suggestion Sir George. How about s amp? May maissugest k b n 2X100wpc? 5k? sorry sa abala. tnx tnx. :)
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« Reply #2381 on: Jun 19, 2014 at 12:26 PM »
My apologies kung sarcasm for you. It was not my honest intention. Iba iba kasi minsan ang definition ng tao sa damped. I just wanted to clear it. I hope you understand. And yes sir, i get your point na.
Nabasa ko ksi stat mo ser. It reflected n mrmi k ng experiences s audio world. 7000 post and counting in here. Hehe. Nagtaka lng ako bakit mo ako tinanung ng ganun. Pgkakaintindi ko ksi it was a term than could be used with audio. Mali pala ako. Misleading pla ung damped. I'll try using acoustic treatment next time para mas klaro. My apologies. Pxenxa n po. Bago lng. For what it's worth, can you suggest sir a 100wpc amp? for 5k? Like lepai or SMSL? Wla ako makita s markeplace e. Pxenxa n if i'm being a cheapskate again. Mximizing funds lng. Hope you understand. Thnk you, thank you.
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« Reply #2382 on: Jun 19, 2014 at 12:35 PM »
Ooops! My bad. As if meron na 5k n kumpletong 5.1 that would reach audiophile thumbs up? (Energy take classic? wla rin dito  ???)Haha. FS lng. Been to listening in style s shang knina. Inaudi ko ung missions mx series FS(Ung pinakamaliit, 22k). It was sweet... Lalo n ung separation, pati instrumental placement. Ang lki ng stage, medyo kahilo. Ung infinity primus nmn.... hhmmm... As detailed as the Missions pero lacking in sound stage? No clue... Hndi n ako nangahas magrequest pa ng ibang material ksi nababad n ako dun sa missions. haha. Kahiya na. Then of with the crown... Inaudi ko sa Crown showroom sa St. Francis Square... The BF655... And this... ewan ko lng ah.. bka may mga mag violent reaction dito... Lupet ng detail, almost the same as the missions and the infinity primus (newbies ears), lacking lang in refinement, medyo bright, screaching in higher vol. and undefined sound staging(wala n halos syang staging actually). Pero sa pagkain ng low freq. it can go and go (eto lng siguro plus niya.). Better than the missions? Ndi ko rin msyado mapinpoit, ksi hndi damped dun sa crown showroom. medyo tunog banyo. But yeah, for 7k, it can. Considering n sakura amp tsaka lumang toshiba player lng gmit nila dun then undamped pa. But then again, your memory can only retain 50-80 percent of what you last heard. Kaya konting alalay lng sa pangungulm ko. haha. Punta nlng kayo dun, for those people n nagtitipid, at wlng pakelam s brand but the sound n pdeng makuha without selling your liver. Go! P.S. hndi ako seller ng Crown, Newbie excitement lng so please be kind :) Hope my opinion helped! *end of rant*
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« Reply #2383 on: Jun 19, 2014 at 12:40 PM »
ayos sa review Sir,...Congrats po
Impression lng yan. Hirap ireview ng ndi iyo. Hanggang admiration lng. hahaha. :)
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« Reply #2384 on: Jun 19, 2014 at 12:41 PM »
Nabasa ko ksi stat mo ser. It reflected n mrmi k ng experiences s audio world. 7000 post and counting in here. Hehe. Nagtaka lng ako bakit mo ako tinanung ng ganun. Pgkakaintindi ko ksi it was a term than could be used with audio. Mali pala ako. Misleading pla ung damped. I'll try using acoustic treatment next time para mas klaro. My apologies. Pxenxa n po. Bago lng. For what it's worth, can you suggest sir a 100wpc amp? for 5k? Like lepai or SMSL? Wla ako makita s markeplace e. Pxenxa n if i'm being a cheapskate again. Mximizing funds lng. Hope you understand. Thnk you, thank you.

Buti nga ikaw makakabuo ka na. Ako i just sold my stereo system due to lack of funds. God willing, baka next year kaya ko na. For a real 100wpc amp, honestly sir, mahirap maghanap niya pero ayos yan sa crown. Hindi ata aabot ng 100wpc ang mga Lepai. I sold my class D B&O circuit amp for P13k, 65w pa lang yun. Baka honestly maski sa pre-loved amps dito, wala atang 100wpc below P10k. Pero, you can also use mga vintage amps to drive those crowns naman. At least 45-50w, pwede na for normal listening. Kapag nilakasan mo, tutunog naman pero baka madinig mo na ang slight amp clipping.

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« Reply #2385 on: Jun 19, 2014 at 12:44 PM »
Impression lng yan. Hirap ireview ng ndi iyo. Hanggang admiration lng. hahaha. :)
seems your an expert/critic on audio, looking forward sa mga up coming reviews mo...:)
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« Reply #2386 on: Jun 19, 2014 at 12:49 PM »
Buti nga ikaw makakabuo ka na. Ako i just sold my stereo system due to lack of funds. God willing, baka next year kaya ko na. For a real 100wpc amp, honestly sir, mahirap maghanap niya pero ayos yan sa crown. Hindi ata aabot ng 100wpc ang mga Lepai. I sold my class D B&O circuit amp for P13k, 65w pa lang yun. Baka honestly maski sa pre-loved amps dito, wala atang 100wpc below P10k. Pero, you can also use mga vintage amps to drive those crowns naman. At least 45-50w, pwede na for normal listening. Kapag nilakasan mo, tutunog naman pero baka madinig mo na ang slight amp clipping.
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« Reply #2387 on: Jun 20, 2014 at 02:27 PM »
sir gab, +1 ako kay sir nelson, medyo mahirap makahanap ng 100wpc worth 5k. Anyways, kung easy to drive naman ang makukuha mong speakers, kayang i drive naman yan ng less than 100wpc amps. Do you prefer a brand? vintage or medyo bago na?
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« Reply #2388 on: Jun 21, 2014 at 06:47 PM »
seems your an expert/critic on audio, looking forward sa mga up coming reviews mo...:)
Ndi sir, sobrang bago lng, excited lng pate. I try to describe lng kasi in the best way I can. Prang napansin ko kc dito the way speakers are recommended. Puro brand name lng. Wlng description in the way it sound in the best descripton possible. It's either bright or warm lng. Anyways I don't know, ndi ako masyado nagbackread. Pero ayun. pra bago lang.  ^-^
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« Reply #2389 on: Jun 21, 2014 at 06:54 PM »
sir gab, +1 ako kay sir nelson, medyo mahirap makahanap ng 100wpc worth 5k. Anyways, kung easy to drive naman ang makukuha mong speakers, kayang i drive naman yan ng less than 100wpc amps. Do you prefer a brand? vintage or medyo bago na?
Ou, msyado lng umaasa kung meron! Ung SMSL ksi nakita ko s amazon meron (Di ko lng sure kung totoo ung ad.). Sadly, ippship p dito. Hassle! Hehe. Pero tingin mo kaya, kung meron akong pair ng FS n may 97db sensitivity, 400w minimum power handling. Gaanu klakas n watts RMS ang kailngn ko pra madrive this to decently loud enough sound(nkikinig aq ng EDM minsan, kya gusto ko din medyo malakas) sa medium sized room. Siguro mga 10sqm(msydo ata malaki, di ako sure s size ng room ko, appoximation). Thnk you! hope you could help.  ^-^
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« Reply #2390 on: Jun 21, 2014 at 06:57 PM »
Buti nga ikaw makakabuo ka na. Ako i just sold my stereo system due to lack of funds. God willing, baka next year kaya ko na. For a real 100wpc amp, honestly sir, mahirap maghanap niya pero ayos yan sa crown. Hindi ata aabot ng 100wpc ang mga Lepai. I sold my class D B&O circuit amp for P13k, 65w pa lang yun. Baka honestly maski sa pre-loved amps dito, wala atang 100wpc below P10k. Pero, you can also use mga vintage amps to drive those crowns naman. At least 45-50w, pwede na for normal listening. Kapag nilakasan mo, tutunog naman pero baka madinig mo na ang slight amp clipping.
  ^-^. Thank you. Reality check understood. Hehe.  ^-^
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« Reply #2391 on: Jun 21, 2014 at 07:51 PM »
Ooops! My bad. As if meron na 5k n kumpletong 5.1 that would reach audiophile thumbs up? (Energy take classic? wla rin dito  ???)Haha. FS lng. Been to listening in style s shang knina. Inaudi ko ung missions mx series FS(Ung pinakamaliit, 22k). It was sweet... Lalo n ung separation, pati instrumental placement. Ang lki ng stage, medyo kahilo. Ung infinity primus nmn.... hhmmm... As detailed as the Missions pero lacking in sound stage? No clue... Hndi n ako nangahas magrequest pa ng ibang material ksi nababad n ako dun sa missions. haha. Kahiya na. Then of with the crown... Inaudi ko sa Crown showroom sa St. Francis Square... The BF655... And this... ewan ko lng ah.. bka may mga mag violent reaction dito... Lupet ng detail, almost the same as the missions and the infinity primus (newbies ears), lacking lang in refinement, medyo bright, screaching in higher vol. and undefined sound staging(wala n halos syang staging actually). Pero sa pagkain ng low freq. it can go and go (eto lng siguro plus niya.). Better than the missions? Ndi ko rin msyado mapinpoit, ksi hndi damped dun sa crown showroom. medyo tunog banyo. But yeah, for 7k, it can. Considering n sakura amp tsaka lumang toshiba player lng gmit nila dun then undamped pa. But then again, your memory can only retain 50-80 percent of what you last heard. Kaya konting alalay lng sa pangungulm ko. haha. Punta nlng kayo dun, for those people n nagtitipid, at wlng pakelam s brand but the sound n pdeng makuha without selling your liver. Go! P.S. hndi ako seller ng Crown, Newbie excitement lng so please be kind :) Hope my opinion helped! *end of rant*
parang hindi kana newbie sir...expert na expert ang dating.. excited ako sa mapipili mo sir.
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« Reply #2392 on: Jun 21, 2014 at 08:07 PM »
parang hindi kana newbie sir...expert na expert ang dating.. excited ako sa mapipili mo sir.
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« Reply #2393 on: Jun 21, 2014 at 08:29 PM »
sir Gabsilog, i have pm.
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« Reply #2394 on: Jun 21, 2014 at 09:57 PM »
Sorry for my "feeling expert sa desert" trolling opinions. Sorry. Sorry. Nasobrahan. That was embarrassing. Just got a knack for describing things, then going overboard, n prang alam ko na lahat. Sorry tlga. I reread and faced slapped myself and my cat. I'm just buying the crowns and hope for the best with my own opinions. Nobody gives a crap for these speaks, so goes the appeal of it to me. >:D Thank you s mga tumulong! . .  ^-^ P.S. I'll make a review but Pls. be kinder... haha.
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« Reply #2395 on: Jun 22, 2014 at 09:08 AM »
Ou, msyado lng umaasa kung meron! Ung SMSL ksi nakita ko s amazon meron (Di ko lng sure kung totoo ung ad.). Sadly, ippship p dito. Hassle! Hehe. Pero tingin mo kaya, kung meron akong pair ng FS n may 97db sensitivity, 400w minimum power handling. Gaanu klakas n watts RMS ang kailngn ko pra madrive this to decently loud enough sound(nkikinig aq ng EDM minsan, kya gusto ko din medyo malakas) sa medium sized room. Siguro mga 10sqm(msydo ata malaki, di ako sure s size ng room ko, appoximation). Thnk you! hope you could help.  ^-^
Sir, not sure kung tama yan, if the speaker has 97db sensitivity, usually kaya yan ng mga flea SET amps or T-Amps and it won't require an amp with 400rms

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Re: Recommend a Speaker
« Reply #2396 on: Jun 22, 2014 at 02:57 PM »
Sir, not sure kung tama yan, if the speaker has 97db sensitivity, usually kaya yan ng mga flea SET amps or T-Amps and it won't require an amp with 400rms
Ou nga eh. been reading, bloated specs. Mli nga. nkkbanas. Kkhiya tuloy ung mga pinagsasabi ko dito. :-[ Mgba2sa pa ako ser. Thank you s response. . . OT n ako. Sorry.
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« Reply #2397 on: Jun 22, 2014 at 03:20 PM »
Ou nga eh. been reading, bloated specs. Mli nga. nkkbanas. Kkhiya tuloy ung mga pinagsasabi ko dito. :-[ Mgba2sa pa ako ser. Thank you s response. . . OT n ako. Sorry.

Anong Speaker yung min 400w rms ang requirement sir? baka naman pang Pro Audio/Mobile yan kaya ganun kataas ang req,sabi nga ni sir sientobente kung 97db ang sensitivity nyan kahit 5-20 watts baka kayang i drive ng mga t-amp yan.

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« Reply #2398 on: Jun 22, 2014 at 03:41 PM »
Anong Speaker yung min 400w rms ang requirement sir? baka naman pang Pro Audio/Mobile yan kaya ganun kataas ang req,sabi nga ni sir sientobente kung 97db ang sensitivity nyan kahit 5-20 watts baka kayang i drive ng mga t-amp yan.
Pang public address nga ung ganung range e. Sorry sir. Mali mali ung perspective ko ng spec. Nadale ako ng sales man e. tanga rin tulad ko. Tanung ko RMS b yung 400w? sabi nya rms daw. ugok. hahaha. Bago lng.  :-\ Wala p ako alam s technical e, s tunog lng ako nagfofocus date, ngayon lng nagsimula magbasa. eto sya http://www.crown.com.ph/products/BF%252d655-.html 100w rms lng yan siguro, divided by four approx diba? thanks s response. :) mli spec. nyn. pero push ko prin. . .ok n muna yan. gling lng nmn ako logitech, creative pc speakers. haha. pagipunan ko missions mx series nxt. . . thank ulet sir s response. XD
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« Reply #2399 on: Jun 22, 2014 at 03:58 PM »
Mga masters, last n po. Hingi ako ng final opinion. Bibilhin ko n ksi sya e. Crown BF-655 floor standing speaker. Sobrang mura ksi sa raon. haha. Tnung ko lng kung may nakapagaudi n ba neto sa may showroom ng crown sa may st. francis square? Then ncompare s gear nila? Can you share and describe the sound, compared to my experience in my initial comments? Gusto ko lng magadjust ng expectations and perspective e. Pra next upgrade ko lm ko n hhnpin ko. Thanks mga sers. Pardon my irritating character.  >:D
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