Author Topic: 2007 Brands Comparison Thread: Sony Bravia S Series 40" or Toshiba 37WL66E 37? (Read 46224 times)

Jett · « **Reply #60 on:** Mar 04, 2007 at 11:59 PM »

Quote from: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Mar 04, 2007 at 09:09 PM

that's a huge price drop... did i compute that right, 30k nabawas from the old retail price?

bilis naman ata ng depreciation of their selling price ... i guess they just wanna move their stocks ASAP. (new models in the horizon?)

Yeah, they're clearing their stocks. A friend of mine who knows an insider said this was the reason why Samsung dropped the prices (well, technically siguro di naman talaga drinop since they removed the freebies).

BTW Spiff, I bought the Philips

. It should be delivered tomorrow. I was there kanina sa Abenson's with a couple of DivX DVDs and 3 DVDs. Unfortunately I wasn't able to test a couple of them because their player was set to Region 3. I bought it purely on your and Switi's recommendation. Pag pangit to, hahanapin ko kayo .... just kidding .. hehehe

Now if only I could sell that free HTIB ...

switi · « **Reply #61 on:** Mar 05, 2007 at 12:51 AM »

jett post mo dito your experience sa philips.

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #62 on:** Mar 05, 2007 at 05:37 AM »

congratulations on the new LCD jett... if u need help with the tuner... i'm sure SWITI will be glad to help... LOL... joke joke... I'LL be glad to help you on that too.

(tama ba i-volunteer ang ibang tao? heh heh.)

the HTIB retails for just under 12k... sell mo sa ebay for 8k... baka sakali may kumagat. it's a decent player though. so we decided to keep it... pwede sa mga kids. (which i don't have ... but there's my technophobe dad... does that count?) heh heh.

BTW, do you guys set your dvd players to PAL? it seems clearer in that setting when connected via component.

Jett · « **Reply #63 on:** Mar 05, 2007 at 02:45 PM »

grabe naman yan Spiff. What do you do at 5:30 in the morning? Gumigising just to post sa forums? hehehehe

I figured out the tuner thing this morning. Grabe, I stepped out of my office to rush home and greet the Abenson delivery truck. Single-handedly set it up right away and configured a few channels. Also hooked up my Xbox 360. (Ganun ka-excited).

I did realize that I had a problem. I need to hook up my DVD player, Xbox 360 and PS2 but there's only one Component Video In. I probably have to settle with the S-video for my PS2 but prefer using component cables. Does anyone know if there's a shop that sells a component switch? (like those audio/video switches to connect multiple RCA devices to one input).

If no such thing exist, I might need to buy a DVD player with HDMI (unfortunately that's not in the budget right now).

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #64 on:** Mar 05, 2007 at 02:57 PM »

nope... early riser lang talaga. (have TONS of stuff to do kasi...)

ha ha ha! i posted a thread asking the same question. (which no one answered to, BTW) it exists... pero pricey... do a google search for "component switches"... audio authority's 1154 model is something i would LOVE to have... pero mahal eh. i already did the rounds in park square... no one has it readily available. siguro by order, pwede.

what i ended up doing was buying 2 regular "rca" switches (3 rca ports per switch ... 1 for composite video and 2 for stereo audio.. can be bought at 150 pesos a piece. but you can opt for the more expensive ones.) at the hardware store... one of the switches handles video... and another handles audio... it's easy and CHEAP... and works just as well since technically "analog" din naman ang component.

you just have to remember to switch both to the same number so that both switch boxes point to the right device.

p.s. don't settle for s-video for the PS2, i didn't. LOL... but remember that your ps2 can't fill the whole 32" screen in component ... underscaned kasi ps2 eh ... yun ps3 kaya i-fill yun screen.

staind01 · « **Reply #65 on:** Mar 05, 2007 at 03:52 PM »

OT:

what component cables are you guys using? where dya buy it and for how much?

thx!

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #66 on:** Mar 05, 2007 at 04:34 PM »

as with any analog wiring ... the thicker, the better shielded and the higher quality make it is (i.e. gold plated plugs, etc. etc.)... the better your signal will be. i read this is not the case for digital wires like HDMI...

i think the ones they sell at the hardware section of most department store for 600pesos is okay naman. they seem to be quite sturdy and seem to be decently made. naturally, if you can afford more expensive brands like monster cable... that would be better. heh heh.

pero if budget is an issue ... the el cheapo 150-peso ones work naman for the meantime. at least until you can afford better cables... which is what i'm doing for now.

staind01 · « **Reply #67 on:** Mar 05, 2007 at 04:58 PM »

Quote from: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Mar 05, 2007 at 04:34 PM

as with any analog wiring ... the thicker, the better shielded and the higher quality make it is (i.e. gold plated plugs, etc. etc.)... the better your signal will be.

yep, i believe in this so i'm actually lookin for high quality ones that are cheap!!

baka me recommendations kayo.

check ko rin sa dept. stores, Electronics Boutique, etc.

jvm · « **Reply #68 on:** Mar 05, 2007 at 05:32 PM »

Try Audio Pro Component Cable, for around 600 pesos, at any Ace Hardware. They also have Philips component cables for around 1.4K pesos. Decent enough for the videophiles on a tight budget

. Until such time you can afford a better one that is.

They also have Ace branded HDMI cable.

staind01 · « **Reply #69 on:** Mar 05, 2007 at 05:38 PM »

Quote from: jvm on Mar 05, 2007 at 05:32 PM

Try Audio Pro Component Cable, for around 600 pesos, at any Ace Hardware. They also have Philips component cables for around 1.4K pesos. Decent enough for the videophiles in a budget . Until such time you can afford a better one that is.

They also have Ace branded HDMI cable.

thx! will check em out.

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #70 on:** Mar 05, 2007 at 06:42 PM »

audio pro! so that's their brand pala... LOL.

we are using their PS2 component cable which we got at Toy Kingdom MOA ... seems to work okay.

dips15 · « **Reply #71 on:** Mar 10, 2007 at 10:17 AM »

As some of you know, I was part of the group that failed to land the Samsung N71. For the same budget, my options are now the Sony 32v200a, Samsung 32r71 and the Philips 32pf7321. Honestly, I liked the PQ of the Philips. I even prefered this model over the much more expensive pixel plus 2 model because it looks finer and more natural. The fact that it has dual hdmi and a load more of inputs do not hurt. Plus it supposedly only uses 65 watts.

Using component, I noticed some mapping on the colors of the sony. I am not sure if its because of the setting or because the model I tested is the 40v200a while the Samsungs seem to be grainer and a little more pixelated. I don't know if you can fix this by tweaking the settings.

The only deal breaker with the Philips is its looks, especially with the wife.

Cost wise, I can probably get the r71 at a cheaper price than the Philips. Add a few more k and I can get a n71 at some big stores. A little more cash would get me the Sony. I can't think straight anymore.

I just don't want to enter the 70k range because adding a few more cash would get me a 42 inch plasma.

Any advice?

gearhead · « **Reply #72 on:** Mar 10, 2007 at 12:18 PM »

Quote from: dips15 on Mar 10, 2007 at 10:17 AM

I just don't want to enter the 70k range because adding a few more cash would get me a 42 inch plasma.

Any advice?

hey, we basically have the same dilemna, brother dips. don't know whether to stay cheap and get an lcd, coz if i do go the 70k+ territory, i'm already treading the plasma domain - better PQ at 42" goodness. so help us fellow pdvd gurus.

Moks007 · « **Reply #73 on:** Mar 10, 2007 at 02:27 PM »

I preferably would get the sony. It cost more but I think its worth it. Reviews are also very good with the bravias..I have the samsung 32r71 and pretty much happy and satisfied with it tho. Philips are also very nice..Actually when I was checking the pixel plus 2, the picture looks very 3D. I dont know but I was amazed, Pixel plus 2 also have good reviews.

dips15 · « **Reply #74 on:** Mar 10, 2007 at 02:49 PM »

The pixel plus 2 does look 3D but it also looks weird. It doesn't look cinematic anymore but instead looks animated or computer generated. It is amazing but its not for me. The pixel plus 1 looks more natural.

Ill see if the r71 will work for me.

jipi · « **Reply #75 on:** Mar 10, 2007 at 09:49 PM »

Just got my philips 32pf7321. I would say the money spent is well worth it. PQ is really great. I know that most of you is interested on its cable reception. For me its great but not as great SD TV. but when you compared the brightness, vividness of color and contrast philips has the edge. If im going to rate the clarity of philips cable compared to SDTV, SDTV having 10, the philips would be between 8 to 9 depends on the cable channel. I compared it with my previous JVC CRT 21" TV.

I know its very subjective to describe cable reception, so here are some actual pictures i took while watching cable on my new philips. I used a sony cybershot 3.1 Megapixel set at image size 1280 x 960 , low flash, rec mode = normal, pic quality = standard.

sample cable pics

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/935/qtvms8.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7495/70100301wm5.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3250/xxxtv0.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7089/hboba2.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/73/mm1wg9.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3245/dsc00097jc3.jpg
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3598/dsc00111nv6.jpg

I noticed that the philips cable signal has no grainy characteristic (well probably depends on the cable company) which i observed in other brand. It instead smoothen out edges this may due to its pixel plus (not sure)

Philips exterior may not be as attractive as the other LCD, but i think its remote control is one of the best looking when compared to other brand

Just sharing my experience with my new lcd HDTV

techdude · « **Reply #76 on:** Mar 10, 2007 at 10:06 PM »

picture looked stretched to fit the widescreen, might look better if it's window-boxed.

OT: Is it true that Philips LCD have an extra glass in front of the LCD, ie the picture won't smudge, if you put your finger on screen? That's what the salesmen tells me when I was checking out LCD earlier... Do Samsung and Sony do?

jipi · « **Reply #77 on:** Mar 10, 2007 at 10:14 PM »

Quote from: techdude on Mar 10, 2007 at 10:06 PM

picture looked stretched to fit the widescreen, might look better if it's window-boxed.

OT: Is it true that Philips LCD have an extra glass in front of the LCD, ie the picture won't smudge, if you put your finger on screen? That's what the salesmen tells me when I was checking out LCD earlier... Do Samsung and Sony do?

Im not sure if it really has a thin glass on it nor pic wont smudge. I don`t really want to touch it hard, coz i might damage it

jipi · « **Reply #78 on:** Mar 10, 2007 at 10:23 PM »

Guys,

I need help

I just bought a new Philips 37PF7321 and I noticed that when i turned it on the sound is absent. I always need to press different video sources (e.g. cv1, pc, etc..) until it goes around the selection then that when finally sound will come out. sound is alraedy set to mono. We use channel 3 for our cable signal. Do you think i have to do something with the tv set-up or something wrong with my tv.

thanks

techdude · « **Reply #79 on:** Mar 10, 2007 at 10:54 PM »

Quote from: jipi on Mar 10, 2007 at 10:14 PM

Im not sure if it really has a thin glass on it nor pic wont smudge. I don`t really want to touch it hard, coz i might damage it

I wouldn't too on such an expensive (and new) TV. Kasi on my PC LCD (AOC), barely running your finger over it will smudge it a little. I would probably try it on other display unit, when the salesmen isn't looking....

eijneb · « **Reply #80 on:** Mar 11, 2007 at 12:36 AM »

saw toshi 37wl66e @ 99k before 129k sa western...ok na ba ito?...any reviews sa mga owner nito...very tempting sya eh...pa review po...thanks

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #81 on:** Mar 11, 2007 at 07:21 AM »

Quote from: techdude on Mar 10, 2007 at 10:06 PM

OT: Is it true that Philips LCD have an extra glass in front of the LCD, ie the picture won't smudge, if you put your finger on screen? That's what the salesmen tells me when I was checking out LCD earlier... Do Samsung and Sony do?

it's true... if you wanna factor that into your decision, feel free to do so. but it shouldn't be the deal breaker, so to speak.

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #82 on:** Mar 11, 2007 at 07:29 AM »

Quote from: jipi on Mar 10, 2007 at 10:23 PM

Guys,

I need help

I just bought a new Philips 37PF7321 and I noticed that when i turned it on the sound is absent. I always need to press different video sources (e.g. cv1, pc, etc..) until it goes around the selection then that when finally sound will come out. sound is alraedy set to mono. We use channel 3 for our cable signal. Do you think i have to do something with the tv set-up or something wrong with my tv.

thanks

skycable? yeah... they broadcast in 2 audio channels: stereo & mono... but the stereo signal is empty. this is what i did go to a channel that has 2 audio channels (ex. MTV) then click on the "audio" button 'til you see a red "mono" on the upper right corner of your screen. then proceed to the "manual setup" menu. make sure you're video is on "auto" and audio is in "m" mode... then select store. it should remember to force mono now everytime it sees a stereo signal.

jipi · « **Reply #83 on:** Mar 11, 2007 at 08:50 AM »

to Spaceman spiff,

How do you use the PIP in this unit (32pf7321)? It says not available even though i am using component video at that time?

thanks

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #84 on:** Mar 11, 2007 at 11:19 AM »

while it does have PIP, the philips people neglected to mention that the unit only has 1 tuner. and PIP only works between an HDMI port and a 2nd input (i.e. internal tuner, CV1, CV2, side or another HDMI connection.)

not sure if this is the same case for the other brands though... $:-\$

gearhead · « **Reply #85 on:** Mar 11, 2007 at 12:27 PM »

global setting kaya ito, or per channel? kasi me mga true stereo channels naman sa sky like yung HBO so sayang naman kung naka-mono lang.

Jett · « **Reply #86 on:** Mar 11, 2007 at 12:30 PM »

Quote from: gearhead on Mar 11, 2007 at 12:27 PM

global setting kaya ito, or per channel? kasi me mga true stereo channels naman sa sky like yung HBO so sayang naman kung naka-mono lang.

as far as i know you can set it per channel. i had to set it individually for mine.

dips15 · « **Reply #87 on:** Mar 11, 2007 at 01:08 PM »

Quote from: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Mar 11, 2007 at 11:19 AM

while it does have PIP, the philips people neglected to mention that the unit only has 1 tuner. and PIP only works between an HDMI port and a 2nd input (i.e. internal tuner, CV1, CV2, side or another HDMI connection.)

not sure if this is the same case for the other brands though... $:-\$

Its the same thing for almost all 32 inchers. They only have 1 tuner and can only share amoung pc/hdmi and composite/component and tv.

Bottomline, at least one input has to be pc or hdmi.

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #88 on:** Mar 11, 2007 at 01:48 PM »

Quote from: gearhead on Mar 11, 2007 at 12:27 PM

global setting kaya ito, or per channel? kasi me mga true stereo channels naman sa sky like yung HBO so sayang naman kung naka-mono lang.

i wouldn't know if it's different for your area but all channels here at our area is mono... i tried using our sony VCRs tuner just to see if mono nga lang talaga ang signal ... and although it detects some channels as "stereo" (the red stereo light is on sa display ng VCR)... mono pa rin ang output.

and yup... the setting is individualized per channel.

jipi · « **Reply #89 on:** Mar 11, 2007 at 02:29 PM »

Quote from: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Mar 11, 2007 at 07:29 AM

skycable? yeah... they broadcast in 2 audio channels: stereo & mono... but the stereo signal is empty. this is what i did go to a channel that has 2 audio channels (ex. MTV) then click on the "audio" button 'til you see a red "mono" on the upper right corner of your screen. then proceed to the "manual setup" menu. make sure you're video is on "auto" and audio is in "m" mode... then select store. it should remember to force mono now everytime it sees a stereo signal.

thanks got it fix already.

too bad our cable uses top box and cannot individually set the channel.