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Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« on: Jan 24, 2007 at 07:21 PM »
Monitor Audio Bronze Reference Series replacing the current Bronze series soon to arrive in the Philippines.
http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/product.php?range=8&product=56

pdf brochure:
http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/cms/uploads/userfiles/File/manual/Current%20Manuals/Bronze%20Ref%20Manuals/Bronze%20BR.pdf

Pictures of the BR2 (big bookshelf of the series) Walnut Pearlescent color
















please forgive my photography skills because my flash messed up the colors a bit, the finish is a lot darker in person, very solid construction - with the combination of the color and rigidity, you can tell me it was made of real solid wood and I'd believe you!
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Research
« Reply #1 on: Jan 24, 2007 at 07:22 PM »
hopefully a review follows ... when time permits
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Research
« Reply #2 on: Jan 24, 2007 at 08:30 PM »
Looks very promising....how much kaya? Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Research
« Reply #3 on: Jan 24, 2007 at 08:40 PM »
actually very affordable ... the old b2's SRP was 16k php ... this one fell off a truck (kidding  ;)  ;D)

I just borrowed this one
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Research
« Reply #4 on: Jan 24, 2007 at 09:43 PM »


bronze reference yata to
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Research
« Reply #5 on: Jan 24, 2007 at 11:43 PM »

bronze reference yata to

oops nalito ako ...  ;D
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #6 on: Jan 25, 2007 at 09:24 PM »
I finally had the time to listen to the BR2's.  But unlike many of you audiophiles, I wouldn't know bright from warm, good from very good, etc.  if they bit me in the ass.  so I had to use another pair of speakers as reference, what I had immediately available was the Polk Audio Rti4.  (which coincidentally was similar in price)

I now had an excuse to use my newly purchased quick lock plugs:


I used the Speaker 1 and Speaker 2 connections on my HK3480 which could be controlled via remote control (unlike my yamaha's speaker a and speaker b connections):


I set them up alternately so the soundstage would be the same width:
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #7 on: Jan 25, 2007 at 09:26 PM »
I used the PC's DVD-Rom as CD player, using the Creative external sound card to output to the stereo receiver.
I used Josh Groban's "To Where You Are" and Susan Wong's "These Foolish Things" as the primary listening material to have both a male and female voice.  To wrap up, I used a variety of mp3's ranging from oldies, ballads, r&b songs and bass heavy rap songs I had stored in the PC.





and on to the listening ...
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #8 on: Jan 25, 2007 at 09:37 PM »
first I tried the Josh Groban CD, switching between the speakers, immediately noticeable with the Polks was that Groban's voice was more forward than the music, while the MA's soundstage was the same depth.  Initially, I thought the Polks were louder and clearer (I thought it was because of the 8ohm and 6ohm difference between the two), and as many of you know, louder is perceived as better.  I tried to balance the volume of the two, but dropped the idea because there was too much time spent in between switches ... with the current procedure, it only took 1-2 seconds to switch.  I continued on with Susan Wong's CD ... again, the Polk was louder but this time I realized what the words "bright" and "warm" simply means.  the MA's had a warm sound, sound that you would be able to listen to for a long time.  the Polks had the advantage with the vocals but after awhile, you'd get "listener's fatigue" again, something I've heard before but only now just discovered.

I never believed speaker break-in and probably won't in the near future, but for those who do, I have to inform you that the BR's were pretty new and the Polks have had their share of games for awhile.

I scrolled through my "favorites" folder of mp3's this time choosing songs I actually listen to regularly (surely you didn't think I regularly listened to Josh Groban did you? j/k!), these were the ballads and pop songs of the late 90's and early 2000's.  This time the MA's had the advantage, they sounded "fuller" while the Polks sounded "thinner" at the mid to low end.  So I removed the grill's to look at what's happening to the drivers while playing the bass heavy rap songs I always keep around to test subwoofers.  Now in theory, a smaller driver would have to move in and out a lot more than a bigger driver would to move the same amount of air.  But, Lo and Behold, the MA's were pumping out the bass while the polks mid/bass drivers were barely moving.  note that the MA's had 6.5" drivers while the Polks had 5.25" drivers, at this point you'd say that this was a lopsided shootout, but is it? when they actually have similar SRP's.

The bass I got from the MA's were amazing considering the manageable size, they had a similar footprint with the polks but it was a few inches taller. 

Conclusion:
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, or ears in this case.  If you like bright and detailed and is purely for HT, then the Polks will do.  But if you plan to do any extended listening, the MA's might be better for you.  They each have their forte, the Polks are forward sounding and good for Josh Groban  ;D.  the Monitor Audio BR2's are warmer but doesn't actually give up any detail.  the Polks actually sound like they have a +6db boost in the treble.  I tried toning them down with the treble control and this in fact pushed back the vocals to the same dimension as the musical instruments.

It was unfortunate that the BR series wasn't available when I was choosing a bookshelf speaker, otherwise, I would have ended up with the BR's but during that time I was more into what the speaker looks like than what it sounds like.  I've already read a lot of reviews that the MA's were beautiful sounding and competition defeating at each of their price points, but the previous bronze series' looks just didn't do it for me.  the current Bronze series however has both the looks and sounds to turn heads!  audition these when looking for a 10+thousand php bookshelf.
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #9 on: Jan 27, 2007 at 08:00 AM »
sir mike,available na kaya BR2 sa pinas?
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #10 on: Jan 27, 2007 at 08:20 AM »
february pa daw po ang arrival sir poypoy

i just don't know if the old bronze series sounds similar, what I'm sure of is mas maganda ang looks ng new BR
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #11 on: Jan 27, 2007 at 08:38 AM »
plan ko kasi bumili ng B2,eh nung nkita ko pics mo ng BR2,ngdalawang isip ako,antayin ko na kaya feb,sameprice kaya cya sa B2/
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #12 on: Jan 27, 2007 at 08:42 AM »
most likely same price siya (but don't quote me on that) ... BUT, I'm sure makakahingi ka ng special price for the existing B2.  diba ganon naman lagi, paglumabas bago, may special price na sa old model.

try calling audioworld, malay mo magadvance baba sila ng price :)
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #13 on: Jan 27, 2007 at 08:47 AM »
THANK U SIR,il try to call audioworld
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #14 on: Jan 31, 2007 at 04:32 PM »
thanks for the review sir mike c. i hope the BR4 would not exceeds P25K  ;D
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #15 on: Jan 31, 2007 at 07:44 PM »
im sure hindi lalagpas ... kasi nung magpalit ang S series to RS, di masyado nagadjust yung price (IIRC)

these are the SRP's of the current B series:  (wala pang discount, i'm sure you guys can haggle a good price)
Bronze   
B1   13,200.00
B2   16,000.00
B4   28,500.00
B6   36,000.00
B Center   11,700.00
B FX   16,000.00

thanks for reading my mini A/B comparison
wala pa kasi akong time to A/B with my Infinity Beta 10's
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #16 on: Jan 31, 2007 at 07:49 PM »
sir mike,ok kaya ang b2 at marantz avr combo?
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #17 on: Jan 31, 2007 at 08:04 PM »
unfortunately, I am unfamiliar with marantz, but I currently have the BR2's setup with a yamaha receiver ...
it's as good as it was with the Harman receiver.  since marantz receivers have a good reputation for music, I'm guessing it will be great!
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #18 on: Jan 31, 2007 at 08:17 PM »
pogi talaga ng BR2 mo sir mike,tagal naman  nya dumating sa pinas,award winnner din ba ang BR2?
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #20 on: Jan 31, 2007 at 08:36 PM »
GRABE! group test winner pala ang BR2,haaay konting tiis na lang february na bukas,thank u very much sir mike sa links mo,sana darating na cya ng mas maaga
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #22 on: Feb 01, 2007 at 07:44 PM »
sir mike,kumusta na pala showdown ng infinity at br2? tapos na po ba? looking forward to the result...
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #23 on: Feb 02, 2007 at 11:01 AM »
sir poypoy ... sorry wala pa, kasi void yung listening ko the other night when I discovered that may effect pala yung gauge sizes of the wires I used.  I was using a pair of gauge 14 and a pair of gauge 18.  at the distance/length I was using ang akala ko no effect.  but when I switched the wires, meron pala.

I have to listen again :)

stay tuned.
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #24 on: Feb 02, 2007 at 11:19 PM »
I listened to a pair of Infinity Primus 150 long time and ago and it sounded really good kulang ng bass because of the 5" driver.I would expect the beta 10 to sound better than the Primus.Mas ok sana kung beta 20 against mabr2 .Anyway just share the result of the shootout para malaman kung maganda talaga yang br2 kase I don't like the b2(predecessor).

Please keep us posted.

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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #25 on: Feb 03, 2007 at 10:01 AM »
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OT:

Sir, is the HK3480 availabe locally. In which shop? TIA, sir!

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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #26 on: Feb 03, 2007 at 10:06 AM »
@mike c

OT:

Sir, is the HK3480 availabe locally. In which shop? TIA, sir!

yes, sa 'acoustical space' SM megamall (top floor) nakita ko maraming stock ng 3480 :)
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #27 on: Feb 03, 2007 at 10:08 AM »
I listened to a pair of Infinity Primus 150 long time and ago and it sounded really good kulang ng bass because of the 5" driver.I would expect the beta 10 to sound better than the Primus.Mas ok sana kung beta 20 against mabr2 .Anyway just share the result of the shootout para malaman kung maganda talaga yang br2 kase I don't like the b2(predecessor).

Please keep us posted.

yes, kung sa size ng drivers match sila ng beta 20, pero gigantic yung beta 20 ... parang buddy ref.

anyway, at least sa price, mas mahal ang beta 10 than BR2 - so good match na rin sila
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #28 on: Feb 04, 2007 at 10:36 PM »
I've finally been able to compare the Beta 10 and the BR2. but I only listened to the left channels, because I was too lazy to connect another set of wires.

I have to return the BR2's to its owner as soon as possible, and I must say that I'm sorry to see them go.

anyway, the Beta 10 and BR2 are different but I really can't put into words their difference, nor can I say which sounds better. I guess this is the limit to where I can hear differences in speakers ... I therefore conclude that this Pseudo-Audiophile only has Bronze Ears.

When listening, I used the speaker A and speaker B connections of my Yamaha Rx-v640 receiver; I listen nearfield and I know which is which, but my wife listens without knowing which one is playing. Her choices are 100% consistent and her comments are that the BR2's sound "fuller" and again, the voice and music are of the same loudness. Since both speakers sounded pretty good, she said if forced to choose, she would choose whichever was cheaper, in this case, the BR2.

I on the other hand, echo her comments but would probably toss a coin to pick a winner. The Beta 10's background music were slightly laid back, but in turn gave the vocals very good clarity. the BR2's had warmer bass which made the sound feel "complete" and "louder". In short, whichever tickles your fancy.

I so wanted these speakers to have a night and day difference with each other, but it looks like at this price point, speakers are already of too good quality that it only becomes a question of taste and not build/design quality.
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Re: Monitor Audio Bronze Reference
« Reply #29 on: Feb 05, 2007 at 06:22 PM »
sir mike same cd's po ba ang ginamit sa comparison? mgkano po ba price difference between the 2?
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