Topic: The Plasma Thread

[barrister]

dont know why my friend and some of the salesman were telling me to buy lcd instead,
was originally going to get the 42pv70, then i'm lost again. 

That's not surprising. LCD is much more popular than plasma, here and abroad. 

Kahit dito sa pinoydvd, parang mas maraming threads and posts sa LCD topics as against plasma topics.

yan din ang pansin ko sa mga salesmen now....para kasi "IN" ang LCDs para sa kanila now kaya yun ang mabenta

Totoo naman na "in" ang LCD.  At totoo ring mas mabentang di hamak ang LCD kaysa sa plasma.

Ang impression kasi ng average consumer, laos na ang plasma technology, mas mahal pa.  If you're a newbie looking for a low-priced flat panel, you'll probably get a 32" LCD.  Ang totoo, mas mura ang 42" plasma sa 42" LCD.  Ang problema lang, walang 32" plasma, so ang comparison ay 32" LCD vs. 42" plasma, kaya ang impression ay mas mura ang LCD.       

At isa pa, mas maliwanag kasi ang LCD sa plasma pag side by side sila sa brightly-lit showroom, kaya ang impression nila ay mas maganda ang LCD.

[Trig]

Originally LCD dapat bibilhin ko. After canvassing+research decided to buy 42pv70. Hindi pa sya nadedeliver so nde pa ako makakabigay ng feedback. 

Regarding sa sales agent, depende yun kung anung brand sya naka-asign. Ex. punta ka sa abenson or Western.

Talk to a Pana/hitachi/pioneer agent, they'll tell you na Plasma is better, better PQ, better blacks, better response time tapos yung LCD daw prone sa dead pixels. Masyado daw bright ang lcd, masakit sa mata. Altho may lcd ang pana 32", plasma ang main tech nila.

Talk to a samsung/toshiba/sony agent, sasabihin nila, dont buy plasma, its prone to burn-ins at kelangan madilim yung room. Sa Us talo ang plasma sa lcd when it comes to sales.

Ang result, nako-confuse lang ang customers.

Mas maganda , just do your own research. Magbasa ng mga reviews ng experts, at lcd/plasma owners. These are the people that we should trust.

Pero ang sinasabi ng karamihan, in general:
for bright rooms - LCD
for darker rooms - plasma
for small tv 20-40 - LCD
For larger tv 42-103 - plasma

[Toslink]

Pero ang sinasabi ng karamihan, in general:
for bright rooms - LCD
for darker rooms - plasma
for small tv 20-40 - LCD
For larger tv 42-103 - plasma

sir Trig, sa akin iba...

for bright rooms - plasma
for darker rooms - Projector with 110" screen 

[dB10]

sir Trig, sa akin iba...

for bright rooms - plasma
for darker rooms - Projector with 110" screen 

toslink oks yan para sa dream house natin, pero dagdagan natin para fair:

for pc monitor and games - lcd

ayan complete na ang house natin

[Trig]

sir Trig, sa akin iba...

for bright rooms - plasma
for darker rooms - Projector with 110" screen 

haha tama ka dyan, for dream home theater's, Projector with 110" screen. Kung may magreregalo sakin ng PJ 110" inch, kaya kong padilimin yung room kahit nakatapat pa sa araw hehe 

[rafmac]

for me both LCD and Plasma has their own strengths and weaknesses. I think for any buyer it must boil down to their preference. Audition both LCD and a Plasma side by side and compare on your own then decide which typ of TV suits your needs.

[kt]

yup it depends on the buyer n your use. well both do have great pq i must say

[tonedeaf]

Hi all!

New plasma owner here  (panasonic viera 42pv70)

Very happy with PQ, even while using regular dvd player.  Cable tv viewing is also nto bad (just regular skycable silver, no digibox).

[voj]

Hi all!

New plasma owner here  (panasonic viera 42pv70)

Very happy with PQ, even while using regular dvd player.  Cable tv viewing is also nto bad (just regular skycable silver, no digibox).

finally....

[tonedeaf]

^ 

[Archie]

may price war yata dahil yun lcd is encroaching into plasmas territory of big screens.

 ???babagsak daw another 30% ang plasma by the end of the year?

[vtec3]

Hi all!

New plasma owner here  (panasonic viera 42pv70)

Very happy with PQ, even while using regular dvd player.  Cable tv viewing is also nto bad (just regular skycable silver, no digibox).

congrats on your new toy 

[Trig]

Hi all!

New plasma owner here  (panasonic viera 42pv70)

Very happy with PQ, even while using regular dvd player.  Cable tv viewing is also nto bad (just regular skycable silver, no digibox).

congrats din sa new toy mo, ako din new plasma(42pv70) owner pero idedeliver plng yung unit baka this weekend 

Currently downloading avia dvd......

[kt]

congrats din sa new toy mo, ako din new plasma(42pv70) owner pero idedeliver plng yung unit baka this weekend 

Currently downloading avia dvd......

uy bro congrats sa unit! balitaan mo kami n pix naman ng dyan! btw wer ka DL ng avia? tnx!

[kt]

Hi all!

New plasma owner here  (panasonic viera 42pv70)

Very happy with PQ, even while using regular dvd player.  Cable tv viewing is also nto bad (just regular skycable silver, no digibox).

wow congrats bro on your new toy! pv70 user here as well 

[vtec3]

congrats din sa new toy mo, ako din new plasma(42pv70) owner pero idedeliver plng yung unit baka this weekend 

Currently downloading avia dvd......

congrats din  makatipid ka niyan kasi dika na lalabas weekend to play with your new toy 

[Trig]

Just search torrent avia. lalabas na yng piratebay link

mods padelete nalang po kung bawal yung pinost ko.

[kt]

Just search torrent avia. lalabas na yng piratebay link

mods padelete nalang po kung bawal yung pinost ko.

hehe tnx bro! update us sa purchase mo pag dating! 

[Toslink]

haha tama ka dyan, for dream home theater's, Projector with 110" screen. Kung may magreregalo sakin ng PJ 110" inch, kaya kong padilimin yung room kahit nakatapat pa sa araw hehe 

not a dream anymore ganito na talaga setup ko  i installed my plasma behind my projector screen...

up for plasma guys... bumababa na thread eh 

[lithium_deuteride]

Any definite word yet on when the 8th gen Pioneer plasmas are coming out? I've my eye on that 4280HD. If its US MSRP is $2700, how much ang expected price dito? A bit higher, much higher, lower? 

[dB10]

if we are to pattern it with the 7th gen, expect it to be priced +/- 250t, ganda nyan pre for sure

[jht3]

mga gurus/plasma owners,

question lang po, ok lang po bang pang ps3 gaming ang 42pv70? saka how about cable tv viewing? do i need to zoom in pa para hindi kita yun channel logos? hindi ko pa din kasi alam kung may burn issues pa rin talaga sa mga plasma 

TIA

[rx330]

alhtough i dun quite make it wat u r saying, i suppose u asking whether is it suitable with the ps3?

[lithium_deuteride]

if we are to pattern it with the 7th gen, expect it to be priced +/- 250t, ganda nyan pre for sure

427 na lang ako kung ganyan ang price.  I hope you are wrong though. 

[dB10]

well a lot of people including myself am hoping im wrong, but the 427 did start out that much, of course after several months baba na yan until it reaches 50% of its original srp or even less sa gray market, but by then they will announce the coming 9th gen...maglalaway na naman tayo and the cycle continues parang sa celfone market...

[lithium_deuteride]

Depreciation is one thing and selling it for twice its USA MSRP is another!  Tell me, when the 427XG was new and was selling for 250T (around USD 5T), how much was its USA MSRP? $2.5T or $5T? I hope the latter because that would mean hindi tayo tinataga dito sa Pinas.

[barrister]

Depreciation is one thing and selling it for twice its USA MSRP is another! 

Depreciation has nothing to do with it.  Overpriced talaga sa Philippines.  Pasalamat tayo sa mga small retailers --- they were the ones who started offering more realistic prices. 

Tell me, when the 427XG was new and was selling for 250T (around USD 5T), how much was its USA MSRP? $2.5T or $5T? I hope the latter because that would mean hindi tayo tinataga dito sa Pinas.

You mean you hope the former.   Tinataga nga tayo sa Pinas. 

See my old post:

Try alvinthx2's thread entitled "Price Fixing of LCD TV's": http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=60746.0

LCD manufacturers are being investigated by government bodies of various countries for allegedly setting up a cartel  to keep LCD TV prices artificially inflated. 

Sa Pilipinas, bakit kaya ayaw nila ibenta ang LCD TV lang ng walang "freebie"?  May cartel ba sila at ito na yung napagkasunduan nila?

LCD prices are lower abroad, but manufacturers are being investigated there for overpricing.  LCD prices are much higher in the Philippines, yet they're not being investigated here. ...  Go figure.   

[lithium_deuteride]

You mean you hope the former.   Tinataga nga tayo sa Pinas. 

I meant the latter because that would've meant hindi tayo tinataga. But now that you've observed na tinataga tayo, well then that's too bad for us. Kaya pala ang daming freebies at discounts, tiba tiba pala sila sa margin.   

The laws of economics will eventually catch up with these vendors since the bigger the profit margin, the more opportunity for others to underprice them. I guess its starting to happen courtesy of these small retailers you mentioned. 

   

[dB10]

Depreciation is one thing and selling it for twice its USA MSRP is another! 

couldnt agree with you more, iba talaga ang pricing ng mga products sa states that even our rich neighbors (singapore, australia) are also complaining why they dont get the same pricing as the americans.

[barrister]

I meant the latter because that would've meant hindi tayo tinataga.

Oo nga, ano.  Ako pala ang mali ang intindi. 

I've been comparing local prices with US prices since last year, talagang sobrang layo.  All vendors at the time inlcude their feebies kuno.  They refused to deduct the price of the "free" items even if you tell them that you are not interested in the freebies. 

Bilib ako sa strategy ng Samsung.  Model numbers ng LCD TVs nila dito iba sa model numbers ng LCD sa US.  Hindi lang iba, malayong malayo ang numbers, para mahirapan kang mag-compare ng prices sa US via the web.

Kaya pala ang daming freebies at discounts, tiba tiba pala sila sa margin.   

Yes, I think it's the appliance seller's biggest cash cow these days.

 

The laws of economics will eventually catch up with these vendors since the bigger the profit margin, the more opportunity for others to underprice them. I guess its starting to happen courtesy of these small retailers you mentioned. 

It's still the power of the consumer at work.  Laws of economics nga talaga.  Very few small retailers were selling flat panels prior to this year because demand was low.  Now that demand is picking up, the small retailers want a piece of the action, and the only way to do it is by undercutting the big retailers' selling price. 

For example, sir Nemesis91 offers great prices, may freebies pa (tunay na freebies yung kanya, hindi freebies kuno ).  Mas mababa ang margin niya, pero bumabawi naman yata sa volume ng sales.  Try visiting his shop, mas masarap kausap ang staff niya kasi mas marunong sa mga sales rep ng big appliance chains.  Kung matiyempuhan mo si sir Nemesis, lalong maganda ang flat panel discussions.