Topic: Pioneer DV-600AV-S (1080p upscaling dvd player)

[gearhead]

wow, matz... care to post your opinion/observation on the analog out performance of this player as compared to your other players? i have only the philips 5500s to compare it to, and so far i'm fairly satisfied. i'm curious though how it stacks up to other more upscale players.

[MAtZTER]

wow, matz... care to post your opinion/observation on the analog out performance of this player as compared to your other players? i have only the philips 5500s to compare it to, and so far i'm fairly satisfied. i'm curious though how it stacks up to other more upscale players.

Initial observations:

Video on my 32" TV, a bit better than my older Pioneer 233 (no p scan) or Philips 534k (didnt use the P scan). Havent pitted it against my GIEC (720p upconverting DVDp thru component) in my main setup yet cuz I dont have an HDMI cable.

Audio, better than the 2 above (233 & 534) & my Victor surplus CDP. But it wont beat a good dedicated CDp thats for sure.

[leomar]

Initial observations:

Video, better than my older Pioneer 233 or Philips 534k. Havent pitted it against my GIEC upconverting DVDp thru component yet cuz I dont have a HDMI cable yet.

Audio, better than the 2 above & my Victor surplus CDP. But it wont beat a good dedicated CDp thats for sure.

ayos, si idol bumili din... balak ko rin bilhin yan sa Pinas dahil mas mahal dito sa SG e, $379=P11k how much mo pala nakuha sir Matz?

[MAtZTER]

Hmm, kala ko lahat na electronics mas mura sa Sing.

Kay Theater Works Trinoma ko kinuha, he has special discount for pdvd members . Get your Bada LC there na rin 

i hav no idea how 1080 looks like.. so when i upscale from 480i to 1080i should i expect a big change?

just want to make sure before i spend another 10k hehe

for those asking about the PQ difference of upconversion, I experimented w/ a fellow member who brought a HDMI DVDp to my house last year.

Our observations: upscaling has a big difference, but on big screens 42" up. On my 32" LCD, not as much IMO .

[leomar]

Hmm, kala ko lahat na electronics mas mura sa Sing.
Kay Theater Works Trinoma ko kinuha, he has special discount for pdvd members . Get your Bada LC there na rin 

yun nga e, mejo weird ung pricing ng pioneer... un lang talaga ang mas mahal, labo...
Yup i will get it there na rin =)
ill visit them next week pag-uwi ko

[ZOoom]

mga sirs! can i play divx movies thru the usb port ng Pioneer DV-600AV-S? para hindi ko na i-burn ung mga downloads ko sa net.. kung pwede po kasi, i'll just buy an external hard drive with bigger a memory instead of buying a bunch of discs. tyia

[voj]

mga sirs! can i play divx movies thru the usb port ng Pioneer DV-600AV-S? para hindi ko na i-burn ung mga downloads ko sa net.. kung pwede po kasi, i'll just buy an external hard drive with bigger a memory instead of buying a bunch of discs. tyia

i have a philips with a usb port, it can be done pero FAT32 lang dapat format ng Hd mo, ewan ko lang sa pio dv600

[gearhead]

tried the upscaling abilities of the dv600 na with the ae900 using a generic hdmi cable. well, i can say it compares well with the internal upscaler of the panny... and sometimes it even betters it. i played some pdvd and there are scenes where you would notice comb filtering and jaggies with the internal scaler while it would  be smooth with the dv600. if the video signal is good, i let the panny do the scaling to let it do its thing with its cinema modes (though it still functions naman even with the pio doing the upscaling).

[JoeyGS]

HELP..need to know and if anyone can please confirm if this player can upscale via component.  I have the fist generation HD LCD of Sony which does not have an HDMI input, only component.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

JoeyGS

[ZOoom]

i have a philips with a usb port, it can be done pero FAT32 lang dapat format ng Hd mo, ewan ko lang sa pio dv600

FAT32? pasenya na po sir.. pano ko po malalaman kung FAT32 ung format?

[skylynx888]

FAT32? pasenya na po sir.. pano ko po malalaman kung FAT32 ung format?

right click mo lang yun hard drive, go to properties, tapos makikita mo na sa file system 

[sechiong]

saw this at sm appliances clark at php 6,790, ibibigay raw ng php 6,586 cash pero last stock na lang nila ang display eh ginagamit nila ito sa pag-dedemo araw araw, tumawag na sila sa main out of stock na raw, ok kaya ito kahit display nila ang kunin ko?

[gearhead]

i'll advise you wait for new stock. you won't miss that much naman if you're using something na as a player.

[sechiong]

pinademo ko ang dv600 sa sm appliances sa clark sa dala kong R1,R2 and pdvd at pina-set ko sa 1080i, 720p and 480p respectively via hdmi para icompare ang PQ pero parang wala akong nakitang difference o pagkakaiba sa picture and color ng component video pati nga ang brother ko ganun din ang sagot sa akin, talaga bang may differences sa PQ ang upscaling dvd player o kulang pa ang aming observation? ika nga ng brother ko kung sa component output palang solid na at good PQ na ang nakikita namin eh di wala ka ng maicocompare.

i'll advise you wait for new stock. you won't miss that much naman if you're using something na as a player.

thanks gearhead for your advice.

[jerix]

This is one reason why i am not so inspired to get this now to pair it with my AX100. Though if there will come a different observation it would be a matter that would be looked into.

[danrd]

pinademo ko ang dv600 sa sm appliances sa clark sa dala kong R1,R2 and pdvd at pina-set ko sa 1080i, 720p and 480p respectively via hdmi para icompare ang PQ pero parang wala akong nakitang difference o pagkakaiba sa picture and color ng component video pati nga ang brother ko ganun din ang sagot sa akin, talaga bang may differences sa PQ ang upscaling dvd player o kulang pa ang aming observation? ika nga ng brother ko kung sa component output palang solid na at good PQ na ang nakikita namin eh di wala ka ng maicocompare.thanks gearhead for your advice.

I'm sure this comparison was made using 32 inchers only right? It really won't make a huge difference no matter what player you have. Big screens 42" and up are the best reference which is btw the reason this players were for.

[JoeyGS]

Hi danrd,

Is this case in general?  PQ differences will only be realized on big screens?  Therefore if you are using 32" screens, just settle for component connections?

Regards,

JoeyGS

I'm sure this comparison was made using 32 inchers only right? It really won't make a huge difference no matter what player you have. Big screens 42" and up are the best reference which is btw the reason this players were for.

[danrd]

Hi danrd,

Is this case in general?  PQ differences will only be realized on big screens?  Therefore if you are using 32" screens, just settle for component connections?

Regards,

JoeyGS

IMHO and experience -"YES!"

[Cosmo]

I believe this is the us version  DV-400V-K priced at $99.00

[MAtZTER]

Hi danrd,

Is this case in general?  PQ differences will only be realized on big screens?  Therefore if you are using 32" screens, just settle for component connections?

Regards,

JoeyGS

I have shared about my experience w/ this many times in this forum:

for those asking about the PQ difference of upconversion, I experimented w/ a fellow member who brought a HDMI DVDp to my house last year.

Our observations: upscaling has a big difference, but on big screens 42" up. On my 32" LCD, not as much IMO .

I am currently using the DV-600 in my bedroom w/ component & no complaints here (32" LCD). I wasnt even using progressive scan before I got the dv-600!

I am not willing to spend 3k for an HDMI cable, since as I have experimented last year, the difference of an upconverting DVDp wasnt huge on a 32" (but huge diff on a PJ though).  Try nyo na lang line conditioners, baka mas may difference pa. 

[MAtZTER]

Regarding the DV-600's USB:

1.) It cant seem to read my portable hard disk (but its a divx HD player)
2.) It cant read HDef divx
3.) It cant read an Mpeg4 file I tried an hour ago (using thumb drive) that I got from my camera
4.) Converted that MP4 file to mpeg3, but only sound came out & no picture

This DVDp is not working according to my expectations

[JoeyGS]

Dear MatZTER,

Thanks for your valuable input.  I am currently using a 32" Sony LCD which is only HD ready and has no HDMI input.
I currently have an Onkyo DVD player which only displays 480p max and would like to know is this Pioneer will upgrade the PQ of my LCD?

Thanks and regards,

JoeyGS

I have shared about my experience w/ this many times in this forum:

I am currently using the DV-600 in my bedroom w/ component & no complaints here (32" LCD). I wasnt even using progressive scan before I got the dv-600!

I am not willing to spend 3k for an HDMI cable, since as I have experimented last year, the difference of an upconverting DVDp wasnt huge on a 32".  Try nyo line conditioners, baka mas may difference pa. 

[kt]

im currently using a pioneer 686a on my tosh 46" DLP. would the 600av-s be a good upgrade with noticeable difference? TIA!

[MAtZTER]

Dear MatZTER,

Thanks for your valuable input.  I am currently using a 32" Sony LCD which is only HD ready and has no HDMI input.
I currently have an Onkyo DVD player which only displays 480p max and would like to know is this Pioneer will upgrade the PQ of my LCD?

Thanks and regards,

JoeyGS

Try to look for an upconverting DVD player that does so via component. There will still be improvements somehow, but they are just much more noticeable w/ bigger displays.

[nerveblocker]

HDMI w/ calibration of your display to the new connection would really bring out noticeable results.

Tried upconverting pioneer dvd player w/ HDMI vs. HTPC w/ VGA.  The HTPC is still better for me even if it is on a Dsub VGA connection only. Colors were more vibrant and blacks were deeper. You don't even have to tweak the settings a lot for that WOW factor w/ the PC. I need to caibrate my TV video settings to get a satisfying result on my Pioneer DVD player via HDMI. 

Kaya before giving in buying an hdmi dvd player, consider an htpc first. The difference in price is well worth it.

[gearhead]

im currently using a pioneer 686a on my tosh 46" DLP. would the 600av-s be a good upgrade with noticeable difference? TIA!

i would think so, coz as with my panny ae900 i noticed quite a difference. better upconversion though not necessarily better color or better contrast. as what nerveblocker said above, you should calibrate your source/display to get the colors you want (which may or may not be the correct one). to some, the component output gives more pleasing results.

[JoeyGS]

Dear MatZTER,

Yup that's the way to go I guess.  DVD players that does upconversion via component is starting to disappear as I see newer models that have discarded such feature.  will see if I can still get the Samsung 841? or one of the Oppo models.  I am not sure if Pioneer still has one.

Thanks again.

Kind regards,
JoeyGS

Try to look for an upconverting DVD player that does so via component. There will still be improvements somehow, but they are just much more noticeable w/ bigger displays.

[frootloops]

Last Sunday, my friend tried his 696 and 600 via component using his new ax-100 then later on with this old ae-700, to our surprise, the 600 showed better PQ.

[danrd]

Last Sunday, my friend tried his 696 and 600 via component using his new ax-100 then later on with this old ae-700, to our surprise, the 600 showed better PQ.

Wow! Better picture quality just thru component? (which is strange btw) What more on hdmi. 

[nerveblocker]

Maybe this would change your mind....

Media Center XPC

Sorry just trying to be a devil's advocate here.