Author Topic: Pioneer DV-600AV-S (1080p upscaling dvd player) (Read 89241 times)

jvm · « **Reply #90 on:** Jul 19, 2007 at 10:21 AM »

Quote from: yygoob on Jul 19, 2007 at 09:52 AM

GUYS will this dvd player be any good to people who does'nt have an HDMI capable TV? that is is would there be any benefit or improvements? im currently using a pio383s thanks

If you're after better PQ, I'd advise you to wait till you have an HDTV with HDMI to use the upscaling feature.

If you're after better SQcompared to older Pioneer DVD's, playability of more formats (e.g. divx, DVD-A, SACD), USB, then it's a worthwhile expense.

ravencreed · « **Reply #91 on:** Jul 19, 2007 at 01:00 PM »

Im selling one, recently bought it last tuesday 17-July-2007

Kindly check out this link:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=68662.0

ravencreed · « **Reply #92 on:** Jul 19, 2007 at 06:20 PM »

Hey guys,

I had reformat my offer.

Kindly check-out the thread again. Thanks

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=68662.0

gearhead · « **Reply #93 on:** Jul 22, 2007 at 09:03 AM »

have the chance to compare my dv600 with an older 300-series. yeah, there are noticeable audible differences.... mostly in favor of the newer incarnation. i still have one niggle with the player, the turn on time. you sit there after pressing the on/standby button wondering whether the thing will ever come on. it wouldn't be so bad if at least there's an led indicator or something, much like with my 5500s which has it on the power button. minor niggle though considering the much improved performance you get from it.

ches · « **Reply #94 on:** Jul 23, 2007 at 12:17 AM »

Will the pioneer DV600 take advantage of HDCD recordings?

slayer · « **Reply #95 on:** Jul 23, 2007 at 10:51 AM »

Finally got myself one last Saturday... some gripes i have on it...

1.) SACD only on HDMI or Analog (it will not work no Digital)
2.) Takes too long to power-up (no indicator that its starting up)

It's still is worth it! I now have a reason to get myself a HDMI compatible TV and an HDMI compatible AVR. That is not in the near future though... ahehehee...

gearhead · « **Reply #96 on:** Jul 23, 2007 at 12:58 PM »

Quote from: slayer on Jul 23, 2007 at 10:51 AM

2.) Takes too long to power-up (no indicator that its starting up)

yeah! when i bought mine i'm not really paying attention to the testing, so when the salesguy showed me it's powered up and working fine i have it packed already. the first time i turned it on at home... my heart skipped a bit as i'm sure everything's plugged in but nothing's happening when i press the power button. my face even turned red a bit knowing it powered up when tested at the store. so imagine my relief when i saw the display suddenly come to life.

anyway, i was testing it the almost the whole day yesterday using the analog output and i'm very much pleased with it.

slayer · « **Reply #97 on:** Jul 23, 2007 at 02:05 PM »

gearhead,

If your attuned to other players, it instantly powers-up. Kakabahan ka talaga guessing bakit ayaw mag power at kakabili mo lang. Ahehehee...

Jun_P · « **Reply #98 on:** Jul 23, 2007 at 06:25 PM »

just curious, gano po katagal ang power on time nito? is it more than 10 seconds?

gearhead · « **Reply #99 on:** Jul 23, 2007 at 06:35 PM »

not sure if it ever reaches 10sec. will check it later. but for sure the waiting seems like an eternity since you're blind the whole time with no visual or physical cues whatsoever.

Jun_P · « **Reply #100 on:** Jul 23, 2007 at 06:44 PM »

ok sir gearhead, thanks for the quick reply

I guess its still ok if the power on time will not exceed 10 seconds

Fait · « **Reply #101 on:** Jul 23, 2007 at 08:13 PM »

10 secs is really annoying.. Is there any way to upgrade it's firmware to improve this power on time?

How much are these players nowadays?

Thanks,

Fait

van_xer · « **Reply #102 on:** Jul 23, 2007 at 09:25 PM »

matagal nga ang 10 secs..yng lcd nga mga 2 secs din .. kainip na e

gearhead · « **Reply #103 on:** Jul 24, 2007 at 08:49 AM »

i measured the turn on time just a while ago. from a cold start it is @5-6 secs, and a lot faster if coming from standby.

Jun_P · « **Reply #104 on:** Jul 24, 2007 at 09:28 AM »

thanks for the update sir gearhead.

For me 5-6 seconds is still ok; I guess it seems just longer because there's no indication on the unit when you turn it on..

yygoob · « **Reply #105 on:** Jul 24, 2007 at 10:29 AM »

just both one yesterday.. ok naman may improvement sa sound n PQ(wife comment) compared to may pio383 both connected thru component n optical cable.. no hdmi yet!! $:-\$
downside was it wont support variable and lossless wma!! :'(

slayer · « **Reply #106 on:** Jul 24, 2007 at 02:50 PM »

yygoob,

I think the real deal with the 600AV is the support for DivX and DivX Ultra. Tried an HD encoded DivX film and i was amazed with the PQ. I think it's even better the the P* DVD copies.

firestorm · « **Reply #107 on:** Jul 24, 2007 at 06:24 PM »

Quote from: slayer on Jul 24, 2007 at 02:50 PM

yygoob,

I think the real deal with the 600AV is the support for DivX and DivX Ultra. Tried an HD encoded DivX film and i was amazed with the PQ. I think it's even better the the P* DVD copies.

Hi, what's the resolution of the HD encoded divx file? Thanks.

yygoob · « **Reply #108 on:** Jul 24, 2007 at 06:37 PM »

Tried to run a downloaded 1080p sample!!! to my dismay it does'nt support such a resolution!! :'(

slayer · « **Reply #109 on:** Jul 25, 2007 at 11:57 AM »

@firestorm,

I didn't check, i was running on standard resolution w/o progressive.

@yygoob,

You need HDMI to upscale to 1080p, standard component connection won't give you 1080p. Kaya siguro hindi mo makita ang video sa TV.

yygoob · « **Reply #110 on:** Jul 25, 2007 at 05:27 PM »

@yygoob,
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You need HDMI to upscale to 1080p, standard component connection won't give you 1080p. Kaya siguro hindi mo makita ang video sa TV.
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I believe that is not the case... since the error that i receive from the player is that it does not support such resolution...i seems that it can only play standard resolution media then through HDMI it will upscale tha same to 1080p.. if the movie itself is 1080p 0r 720p.. the player wont be able to play the same..

not too sure though

allan1836 · « **Reply #111 on:** Jul 26, 2007 at 05:51 AM »

guys, can this dv-600 upscale thru its component output at a lesser resolution like 720p or 1080i ? I don't have a hdmi monitor yet eh! $:-\$

By the way, I think most pioneer dvd players has this slow start feature (like my dv-393). I believe this is designed intentionally to prevent sudden surged of electricity to buffer the power supply circuit, like the soft start function on some TV's. I noticed most generic dvd players has this sudden spike when the power button is pushed on, thus eventually leading to power supply damage/failure. I already experienced this with one of my generic players. :'(

I will gladly accept such turn on delay rather than damaging the unit.

antikryst · « **Reply #112 on:** Jul 26, 2007 at 10:40 AM »

Quote from: allan1836 on Jul 26, 2007 at 05:51 AM

guys, can this dv-600 upscale thru its component output at a lesser resolution like 720p or 1080i ? I don't have a hdmi monitor yet eh! $:-\$

By the way, I think most pioneer dvd players has this slow start feature (like my dv-393). I believe this is designed intentionally to prevent sudden surged of electricity to buffer the power supply circuit, like the soft start function on some TV's. I noticed most generic dvd players has this sudden spike when the power button is pushed on, thus eventually leading to power supply damage/failure. I already experienced this with one of my generic players. :'(

I will gladly accept such turn on delay rather than damaging the unit.

yes it can upscale to 720p. with regards to divx hd..it wont play 720 divx files...sad to say. i have a dv 400 and that one cant either. maybe pio will release divx hd compliant players soon.

edboy7 · « **Reply #113 on:** Jul 26, 2007 at 12:04 PM »

Quote from: antikryst on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:40 AM

yes it can upscale to 720p.

thru component?

jerix · « **Reply #114 on:** Jul 26, 2007 at 12:10 PM »

Quote from: edboy7 on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:04 PM

thru component?

same

slayer · « **Reply #115 on:** Jul 26, 2007 at 01:39 PM »

As far i can remember from the manual, upscaling even at 720p is only done via HDMI.

gearhead · « **Reply #116 on:** Jul 26, 2007 at 04:15 PM »

Quote from: allan1836 on Jul 26, 2007 at 05:51 AM

guys, can this dv-600 upscale thru its component output at a lesser resolution like 720p or 1080i ? I don't have a hdmi monitor yet eh! $:-\$

except for the samsung hd841 that was sold here by electrohaus, i don't think there are other universal players available locally that does upconversion thru component.

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By the way, I think most pioneer dvd players has this slow start feature (like my dv-393). I believe this is designed intentionally to prevent sudden surged of electricity to buffer the power supply circuit, like the soft start function on some TV's. I noticed most generic dvd players has this sudden spike when the power button is pushed on, thus eventually leading to power supply damage/failure. I already experienced this with one of my generic players. :'(

I will gladly accept such turn on delay rather than damaging the unit.

well, that wouldn't be too annoying if at least there are some visual cues to it waking up from an off state. my other player the philips 5500s also do a soft power up but at least there's an LED indicator that lights up first in the power button.

anyway, i'm curious how true is the claim from this site that it do have burr-brown DAC's???

http://www.avland.co.uk/pioneer/dv600/dv600.htm

to wit:

Pioneer DV-600

HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface)
HDMI Video Upscaling to 1080p
DivX Ultra Playback
Will output Dolby Digital from DivX titles
Compatible with SACD, DVD-A, DVD-Video, MP3, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-R and DVD-RW
Built-in Dolby Digital & DTS Decoders & Virtual Dolby Surround
Burr-Brown 192kHz/24-bit DACs

slayer · « **Reply #117 on:** Jul 26, 2007 at 04:48 PM »

@gearhead,

Only way to find out is to open it... who has the guts to break their warranty?

MAtZTER · « **Reply #118 on:** Aug 03, 2007 at 12:04 PM »

Burr Brown DACS @ 6+k only? Should be a steal if thats true.

MAtZTER · « **Reply #119 on:** Aug 04, 2007 at 01:12 PM »

Got myself a DV-600 yesterday from Theater Works for my bedroom setup.

I thought the USB connection can read portable hard disks. Apparently it cant.

Nice PQ from component progressive scan pa lang. I wonder how it would look w/ a upscaled HDMI connection.

Anybody got a spare cable I could borrow for a week?

jk