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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #60 on: Feb 23, 2008 at 11:26 PM »
Here goes....

the box:


the free HD-DVD discs:


the HD-DVDs I purchased:


Mini-review:

I've played all the HD-DVD discs I have (at least the first few portions, and a random sampling of some other chapters) and no problems with each. Also played R1s na regular DVDs and no problems as well.

It does take a while from "power on" to actually being able to open the tray and slide a disc in. 15 seconds or so. For some reason, I am always presented with the set-up menu (to set time, for example) everytime I turn the player on. Despite the fact that I've set the time the previous occasions. 

Sound isn't as loud as regular DVDs.

Btw, I got tired of having to unplug and plug the cables from the Pioneer DV-266 to the HD-A3, so I decided to do buy an HDMI cable from CDR-King. I also got a co-axial cable (Philips brand) from Electronics Boutique in Market Market kanina. So now my set up is:

Video: TV to HD-A3 via HDMI cable; TV to Pio 266 via component video cable (from Ace);
Audio: Onkyo to HD-A3 via optical cable(cheap one from True Value); Onkyo to Pio 266  via co-axial.

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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #61 on: Feb 25, 2008 at 05:47 PM »
hi tonedeaf!

really had fun reading your ht love story! makes me look back and realize how similar most of our discoveries were! ;D

enjoy your gears! and if i may suggest buy yourself a subwoofer and youll realize so much more! :)
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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #62 on: Mar 02, 2008 at 09:50 AM »
subwoofer na yan

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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #63 on: Aug 30, 2008 at 11:42 AM »
Coming soon...finally 5.1  :)

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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #64 on: Aug 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM »
woohooooo! congats bro! post pics soon!
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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #65 on: Aug 30, 2008 at 02:14 PM »
Coming soon...finally 5.1  :)


ma'm, bagay na bagay nga po velodyne dyan sa set-up nyo :)

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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #66 on: Aug 30, 2008 at 10:05 PM »
Atty., don't forget to show us the pics pag nandyan na yung Velodyne nyo ha....tnx!  ;) :D
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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #67 on: Aug 31, 2008 at 09:44 AM »
Coming soon...finally 5.1  :)

wow!

abang-abang lang mga mangku dito sa thread mo for pix ma'am!!! ;D
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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #68 on: Aug 31, 2008 at 03:38 PM »
woohooooo! congats bro! post pics soon!


este! wooooohhoooooo! post pics soon mam! ;D sorry!
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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #69 on: Aug 31, 2008 at 05:04 PM »
maam, maki tambay na rin dito abangan ko ang new member of the BAND...  :o  ;D
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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #70 on: Sep 01, 2008 at 10:02 AM »
You will have to adjust the location, phase and level of the sub. For phase and level, you will need an SPL meter. For the location, medyo mahirap yun!
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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #71 on: Sep 01, 2008 at 08:50 PM »
^fantastic  :( especially considering that i only just realized how heavy this thing is  :'(.

my unboxing pics will have to wait a while. whew.

in the meantime, and speaking of unboxing,  i saw this in one of the other message boards. wish my unboxing is as interesting as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQlzX7EyIwU

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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #72 on: Sep 01, 2008 at 09:23 PM »
^fantastic  :( especially considering that i only just realized how heavy this thing is  :'(.

my unboxing pics will have to wait a while. whew.

in the meantime, and speaking of unboxing,  i saw this in one of the other message boards. wish my unboxing is as interesting as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQlzX7EyIwU

 ;D i like that

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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #73 on: Sep 01, 2008 at 11:04 PM »
^fantastic  :( especially considering that i only just realized how heavy this thing is  :'(.

my unboxing pics will have to wait a while. whew.

in the meantime, and speaking of unboxing,  i saw this in one of the other message boards. wish my unboxing is as interesting as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQlzX7EyIwU

That was COOL!!! 8) :o ;)
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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #74 on: Sep 01, 2008 at 11:36 PM »
to recap, i have Missions all around (M73-fronts, M7C1, M30-rears), an Onkyo 494 and now, a velo CHT-10R.

so far, i've managed to connect the power cable properly (as evidenced by blue light indicator in the velo). i have also turned on the subwoofer in the receiver (3 available options: off/mode 1(small)/mode 2(large).
also, the volume level is 50. tapos low-pass cross-over is 80.

questions:

1. mode 1 (small) or mode 2(large) ba ako dapat?
2. if i do the test tone with the onkyo 494, sound comes out of every speaker tapos slight rumbling lang sa sub. dapat ba may tunog na lumalabas for the sub?
3. what sort of other things can i experiment with?

i tried my system with Diana Krall's concert DVD. I could actually hear (or feel) that giant bass guitar thing (forgot what its called, sorry). Tapos, now that i'm typing sa laptop a few feet away from where my set up is, ramdam ko ang vibrations. Aliw!


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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #75 on: Sep 02, 2008 at 12:47 AM »

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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #76 on: Sep 02, 2008 at 07:13 AM »
to recap, i have Missions all around (M73-fronts, M7C1, M30-rears), an Onkyo 494 and now, a velo CHT-10R.

so far, i've managed to connect the power cable properly (as evidenced by blue light indicator in the velo). i have also turned on the subwoofer in the receiver (3 available options: off/mode 1(small)/mode 2(large).
also, the volume level is 50. tapos low-pass cross-over is 80.

questions:

1. mode 1 (small) or mode 2(large) ba ako dapat?
2. if i do the test tone with the onkyo 494, sound comes out of every speaker tapos slight rumbling lang sa sub. dapat ba may tunog na lumalabas for the sub?
3. what sort of other things can i experiment with?

i tried my system with Diana Krall's concert DVD. I could actually hear (or feel) that giant bass guitar thing (forgot what its called, sorry). Tapos, now that i'm typing sa laptop a few feet away from where my set up is, ramdam ko ang vibrations. Aliw!




I don't understand what "small" and "large" means sa modes 1 and 2. Do they refer to the main or satellite speakers? In other AVR's, that would be the case and you should normally set the other speakers to "small." Can you try to check the manual?

Of course, sound should come out from the sub when you play the test tone! That means that it works! But you need to set the level to be equal to the other speakers.

Normally, there will be a phase switch at the back of the sub which you can switch between 0 and 180. Switch it back and forth and check which position has the stronger output. Yun ang piliin mo.

Your low-pass filter (not crossover) should normally be set at 120 hz but the crossovers between the sub and the other speakers should be set at around 80 hz. I'm not sure lang how your AVR works but this is quite important.
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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #77 on: Sep 02, 2008 at 11:30 PM »
@streetsmart,

mode 1 - when small with limited bass signal handling front speakers are connected
mode 2 - when large wideband front speakers are connected

I checked the specs of the M73:
frequency response - 48hz-20 khz
LF response - 43hz

Not sure what category my speakers fall under ??? based on your suggestion though, i should try mode 1 (small) first.

also, there are 2 things i'm not sure i understand:

1. there's a "low pass crossover" knob at the back, and the manual says to use this knob to select the high-frequency range at which you wish to cut off the signal to the subwoofer. its from 40hz-120hz (which is called Direct).  It says when the subwoofer direct feature is invoked, the subwoofer plays all frequencies up to 200hz.
*per your post above, is this the one i should set to 120hz?

2. there's a "high pass crossover" switch (and you can choose between 100hz and 80hz). The manual says, smaller speakers with limited low frequency output may perform better using the higher 100hz setting while large speakers with geater low frequency output may be able to handle the 80hz setting.

re "phase switch", its in the remote - with the following options: 0, 90, 180 and 270. will fiddle around with it as suggested.

i'm reading up stuff found in the internet, didn't realize that the subwoofer would be the most difficult thing to set-up (in terms of settings).  ;D

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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #78 on: Sep 03, 2008 at 07:45 AM »
@streetsmart,

mode 1 - when small with limited bass signal handling front speakers are connected
mode 2 - when large wideband front speakers are connected

I checked the specs of the M73:
frequency response - 48hz-20 khz
LF response - 43hz

Not sure what category my speakers fall under ??? based on your suggestion though, i should try mode 1 (small) first.

also, there are 2 things i'm not sure i understand:

1. there's a "low pass crossover" knob at the back, and the manual says to use this knob to select the high-frequency range at which you wish to cut off the signal to the subwoofer. its from 40hz-120hz (which is called Direct).  It says when the subwoofer direct feature is invoked, the subwoofer plays all frequencies up to 200hz.
*per your post above, is this the one i should set to 120hz?

2. there's a "high pass crossover" switch (and you can choose between 100hz and 80hz). The manual says, smaller speakers with limited low frequency output may perform better using the higher 100hz setting while large speakers with geater low frequency output may be able to handle the 80hz setting.

re "phase switch", its in the remote - with the following options: 0, 90, 180 and 270. will fiddle around with it as suggested.

i'm reading up stuff found in the internet, didn't realize that the subwoofer would be the most difficult thing to set-up (in terms of settings).  ;D



Definitely use mode 1.

Set the "low-pass crossover" to 120 hz. The main purpose of this setting is for the LFE channel, which has frequencies all the way up to 120 hz.

The "high-pass crossover" is normally used only if you send the full audio signals for the front speakers to the sub, in which case you need to filter out the higher frequencies. I assume that is not how you are connecting the sub. Your sub is connected to the "sub out" of your AVR, in which case the "high-pass crossover" is useless. In any case, you can leave it at 80 hz.

What I don't see is the crossover setting that your AVR uses. This is the point at which lower frequencies are sent to the sub, while higher frequencies go to the other speakers. This should be found somewhere in the menu of your AVR. If you can't find it, I will assume that the AVR just sets that automatically to 80 hz, which is pretty much the standard. If you find it, set it to 80 hz. This refers to the bass signals which would normally go to your other speakers (different from the LFE channel) but which are now re-directed to the sub.

Actually, may isa ka pang kulang and that is the location of the sub (which is actually very very important) but that can get pretty complicated and can take a very long time. You can read up on that at Audioholics.

Good luck! :)
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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #79 on: Sep 03, 2008 at 10:56 AM »
Ma'am congrats sa set-up mo! Ganda nung napili mo na sub, we are using the same AVR and Speakers (Onkyo & Mission)  :)

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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #80 on: Sep 03, 2008 at 09:57 PM »
@streetsmart,

i've read and re-read the manual of my Onkyo, no crossover settings on the receiver. baka luma na kasi.  ;D anyway, thanks for the tips. volume na lang ang concern ko ngayon, but i think its something i can figure out when i experiment with the sub.

@vtec3,

thanks! i figured "one time big time" purchase na lang ng sub. instead of buying entry level and buying the velo (or its equivalent) after some time.

re Onkyo and Mission, i've read from the posts here (and based on my own use) na bagay talaga sila! good for us! kasi i wasn't aware of that when i purchased either of them. parang ang nangyari, i got the Onkyo because it sounded like the middle of the Yamaha and the Denon. Yung Mission naman, within my price range. And for that I have to thank Sonny Tuazon. Wala akong ka-alam alam when I got my stuff from him. Now that I know a little more, I realized that he gave me good quality cables, and installed my equipment properly and picked good pieces to put together.

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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #81 on: Sep 04, 2008 at 09:05 AM »
Finally...the pics.

The box and contents, all 25kg of it:


Inside there's a manual, a remote, free AAA batteries and what i'm guessing to be some kind of spike (4 pcs.) for the sub:


The Velo CHT-10R:


Project for later this year:
AVIA Video Essentials DVD
SPL meter

Project for next year:
an upscaling R3 DVD player
a brand new receiver

Yey!

« Last Edit: Sep 04, 2008 at 09:15 AM by tonedeaf »

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Re: Finally 5.1!
« Reply #82 on: Sep 04, 2008 at 09:50 AM »
Wow maam congrats! I assure you won't look for any other subs from now on.  :)

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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #83 on: Sep 04, 2008 at 09:52 AM »
Finally...the pics.

The box and contents, all 25kg of it:


Inside there's a manual, a remote, free AAA batteries and what i'm guessing to be some kind of spike (4 pcs.) for the sub:


The Velo CHT-10R:


Project for later this year:
AVIA Video Essentials DVD
SPL meter

Project for next year:
an upscaling R3 DVD player
a brand new receiver

Yey!



WOW!
dumating na! Congrats ma'am!
im sure u'l enjoy ur new subs!
di ka bibitinin nyan!!!  :D
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Re: Finally 5.1!
« Reply #84 on: Sep 04, 2008 at 10:26 AM »
worth the wait maam ang 0.1 mo, a VELO! congrats.  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Finally 5.1!
« Reply #85 on: Sep 04, 2008 at 10:44 AM »
CONGRATULATIONS! :D
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Re: Finally 5.1!
« Reply #86 on: Sep 04, 2008 at 10:53 AM »
Congrats Ma'am!

You should watch all those action movies again in 5.1, you will realize what you have been missing all these years!  :)

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Re: Finally 5.1!
« Reply #87 on: Sep 04, 2008 at 10:57 AM »
Congratz Ma'am.... ;)

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Re: Finally 5.1!
« Reply #88 on: Sep 04, 2008 at 11:23 AM »
Rather than getting Avia, I suggest you get the HD-DVD version of Video Essentials. Much cheaper and apparently more accurate.

Congrats on your sub!
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Re: Better late than never
« Reply #89 on: Sep 04, 2008 at 04:24 PM »
Finally...the pics.

The Velo CHT-10R:



wow ganda naman! ang lakas niyan lalo na sa action scenes, baka nga gagalaw yan due to the vibration  ;D
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