Author Topic: 360 HD add-on or HD stand alone player (Read 9106 times)

chuck427 · « **on:** Oct 11, 2007 at 08:26 PM »

hi guys,

I currently have a Samsung Bluray player but i with a bunch of movies on HD that i like, im planning on getting an HD player as well.i would want to get an HD player from Amazon but i dont have any credit cards.The Toshiba E1 is selling for p40,000 here in Cebu while a 360 HD player is only p11,000.What do you guys suggest i get? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated..

thanks

pchin · « **Reply #1 on:** Oct 11, 2007 at 08:37 PM »

Not sure if our local suppliers will ship to Cebu. At Infomax, they are selling Toshiba HD-A2 at about P20,000+

Or you can let Jeff/Nemesis91 know your interest as he intends to import Tosh 3rd Gen player

See Reply #1168 on: Today at 06:22 PM
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=60748.msg738380;boardseen#new

YrNeH · « **Reply #2 on:** Oct 11, 2007 at 08:47 PM »

if u have an xbox 360 console then the 360 hd-dvd addon will work great for you. that's what i did and PQ is excellent. not only you can play and enjoy gaming but also can watch hd-dvd's. the console will upscale it to 480p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p via component or vga and it also depends on your display's native resolution. it's very expensive there, you can get the toshi e1 here for half the price in manila and the xbox360 hd-dvd addon for around 9K pesos (converted na)

shalom

chuck427 · « **Reply #3 on:** Oct 12, 2007 at 10:38 AM »

thanks for referring me sir pchin...

yrneh,
what did u mean by "converted na" for the 360 HD dvd? what does the converted do different from a regular 360 HD drive?

YrNeH · « **Reply #4 on:** Oct 12, 2007 at 01:50 PM »

Quote from: chuck427 on Oct 12, 2007 at 10:38 AM

thanks for referring me sir pchin...

yrneh,
what did u mean by "converted na" for the 360 HD dvd? what does the converted do different from a regular 360 HD drive?

a sori bro, i mean converted na to pesos...(9k or less) i got mine for AU$219

pchin · « **Reply #5 on:** Oct 15, 2007 at 10:10 AM »

Any decision yet chuck427? Transformers is coming out na...

Also, Xmas season is just around the corner..

Kintaro · « **Reply #6 on:** Oct 15, 2007 at 10:25 AM »

Alam ko 7.5k ung HD-DVD 360 addon sa DataBlitz manila branches. Of course that comes with King Kong as usual.

chuck427 · « **Reply #7 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 03:51 PM »

Quote from: pchin on Oct 15, 2007 at 10:10 AM

Any decision yet chuck427? Transformers is coming out na...

Also, Xmas season is just around the corner..

The wait is killing me... im leaning forward on getting the stand alone player..like u sugested, im planning on getting it from Sir Jeff but still waiting for more buyers..Im hesitant with the 360 add-on because of the over-heating issues of the unit..i dont want to get the red lights.

and alot of people have been warning me about it..

for now im just crossing my fingers and hoping i can get the unit from Sir Jeff soon...

chuck427 · « **Reply #8 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 03:53 PM »

Quote from: Kintaro on Oct 15, 2007 at 10:25 AM

Alam ko 7.5k ung HD-DVD 360 addon sa DataBlitz manila branches. Of course that comes with King Kong as usual.

that is cheap..in Datablitz Cebu it's still 11k..i think ill just wait for the stand alone since im really trying to avoid the red lights...

Kintaro · « **Reply #9 on:** Oct 17, 2007 at 08:53 AM »

Even if your 360 is having 3RL it should still run DVDs fine... lol.

Oh and the HD-DVD addon for 360 can be used on your PC and play HD-DVDs on it.

(You don't need a 360.)

Dunedain · « **Reply #10 on:** Oct 18, 2007 at 07:28 AM »

I'm running an XBox360 HD-DVD expansion drive to run my HD DVD movies. Yes, it's cheaper than the standalone units. However, the XBox360 HD-DVD drive doesn't decode DTS. This was the most complained missing feature by HD-DVD enthusiasts, hence making the standalone a better choice. Last I read somewhere, an MS employee is looking into this problem. But on the other hand, HD-DVD movies that are encoded in DTS is not common. In fact, Transformers isn't even DTS. As well as 300, Batman Begins, and Enter The Dragon.

pchin · « **Reply #11 on:** Oct 18, 2007 at 09:02 AM »

Yep, at the moment probably 95% of the HD DVDs without DTS.

So there's nothing to worry even your add-on can't decode DTS. Dolby Digital Plus is good enough na. Transformers HD DVD review scores at least 4.5 star on its audio!

chuck427 · « **Reply #12 on:** Oct 18, 2007 at 09:47 AM »

Quote from: Dunedain on Oct 18, 2007 at 07:28 AM

I'm running an XBox360 HD-DVD expansion drive to run my HD DVD movies. Yes, it's cheaper than the standalone units. However, the XBox360 HD-DVD drive doesn't decode DTS. This was the most complained missing feature by HD-DVD enthusiasts, hence making the standalone a better choice. Last I read somewhere, an MS employee is looking into this problem. But on the other hand, HD-DVD movies that are encoded in DTS is not common. In fact, Transformers isn't even DTS. As well as 300, Batman Begins, and Enter The Dragon.

Are you afraid of the red lights? Is that somthing i should really worry about? If i do get that, my add on would pretty much be useless right? except if i connect it to my pc?

chuck427 · « **Reply #13 on:** Oct 18, 2007 at 09:50 AM »

Quote from: pchin on Oct 18, 2007 at 09:02 AM

Yep, at the moment probably 95% of the HD DVDs without DTS.

So there's nothing to worry even your add-on can't decode DTS. Dolby Digital Plus is good enough na. Transformers HD DVD review scores at least 4.5 star on its audio!

man...am i growing crazy...the add-on seems the quickest way of getting an HD-player...plus with all the raves about transformers, i might get the player this week....dont know what to do...

pchin · « **Reply #14 on:** Oct 18, 2007 at 10:00 AM »

chuck427, just a side note. The 360 add-on has no onboard TrueHD decorder nor multi-channel analog connections. So if audio is important to you or your existing receiver has analog input & can playback MPCM then it's worthwhile to consider a stand alone HD DVD player.

The Tosh entry level player can decode TrueHD while the higher end models have analog connections. Either way, if budget permits I'd say go for a player that can output 1080p/24 with analog connections. In this case, your equipment is future-proof na should you decide to upgrade your HDTV to a 1080p display or upgrade your AV receiver.

chuck427 · « **Reply #15 on:** Oct 18, 2007 at 10:06 AM »

Quote from: pchin on Oct 18, 2007 at 10:00 AM

chuck427, just a side note. The 360 add-on has no onboard TrueHD decorder nor multi-channel analog connections. So if audio is important to you or your existing receiver has analog input & can playback MPCM then it's worthwhile to consider a stand alone HD DVD player.

The Tosh entry level player can decode TrueHD while the higher end models have analog connections.

im currently using Denon 1905 receiver with my Xbox360 connected using optical..so im hoping DD will sound ok..

aeris30 · « **Reply #16 on:** Oct 18, 2007 at 01:08 PM »

You can also get DTS (1.5mbps core) from the xbox 360 hd dvd add-on drive connected to your xbox 360 console using optical audio output. All video & audio codecs are processed thru the console. You can also enjoy web-enabled features found on the latest hd dvd releases like 300 & transformers when connected to the internet. It is recommended that you update your console & add-on drive to the latest firmware updates.

Moks007 · « **Reply #17 on:** Oct 18, 2007 at 09:22 PM »

Quote from: Kintaro on Oct 15, 2007 at 10:25 AM

Alam ko 7.5k ung HD-DVD 360 addon sa DataBlitz manila branches. Of course that comes with King Kong as usual.

Are you sure its 7,500 nalang?

chuck427 · « **Reply #18 on:** Oct 19, 2007 at 09:49 AM »

Quote from: aeris30 on Oct 18, 2007 at 01:08 PM

You can also get DTS (1.5mbps core) from the xbox 360 hd dvd add-on drive connected to your xbox 360 console using optical audio output. All video & audio codecs are processed thru the console. You can also enjoy web-enabled features found on the latest hd dvd releases like 300 & transformers when connected to the internet. It is recommended that you update your console & add-on drive to the latest firmware updates.

thanks Aeris30..good to know Audio wise ill be set..

Does anybody know if the video quality will be that much of a difference?i only have the regular 360 so it connects to my lcd via component only..

chuck427 · « **Reply #19 on:** Oct 19, 2007 at 09:55 AM »

Quote from: Moks007 on Oct 18, 2007 at 09:22 PM

Are you sure its 7,500 nalang?

sir moks007,

what do u use as ure HD player? do u use stand alone?

aeris30 · « **Reply #20 on:** Oct 19, 2007 at 10:43 AM »

Quote from: chuck427 on Oct 19, 2007 at 09:49 AM

thanks Aeris30..good to know Audio wise ill be set..

Does anybody know if the video quality will be that much of a difference?i only have the regular 360 so it connects to my lcd via component only..

I am also using the hd dvd add-on drive w/ my 360 console on a 32in lcd. I was able to compare 1080i & 720p resolutions via component with a Toshiba standalone player & found no noticeable difference in picture quality. Both displayed clear & detailed video when playing hd dvds. You can also use a x360 vga cable for 1:1 pixel mapping if your lcd has a vga input.

Moks007 · « **Reply #21 on:** Oct 19, 2007 at 11:07 AM »

Quote from: chuck427 on Oct 19, 2007 at 09:55 AM

sir moks007,

what do u use as ure HD player? do u use stand alone?

Hello sir, I use addon as my hd player..I bought it also in datablitz, cost almost 12 thou ata, but this was months back when I bought this. If its 7,500 nalang, thats a good price already to get in hd if you have xbox360..But I would prefer a standalone. I went to Pchin's place and check out his sounds, man I want to make upgrade (receiver/speakers) and a standalone, after hearing his. I appreciate audio more now..hehe..Its very nice..The problem is my room I cant crank up the volume that much and my wife dont like loud sounds hehe...But having better receiver and speakers I think you get better detail...So thats the positive I think..

chuck427 · « **Reply #22 on:** Oct 20, 2007 at 12:23 AM »

Quote from: aeris30 on Oct 19, 2007 at 10:43 AM

I am also using the hd dvd add-on drive w/ my 360 console on a 32in lcd. I was able to compare 1080i & 720p resolutions via component with a Toshiba standalone player & found no noticeable difference in picture quality. Both displayed clear & detailed video when playing hd dvds. You can also use a x360 vga cable for 1:1 pixel mapping if your lcd has a vga input.

Thanks for the input..buying a add-on is sounding good..

chuck427 · « **Reply #23 on:** Oct 20, 2007 at 12:26 AM »

Quote from: Moks007 on Oct 19, 2007 at 11:07 AM

Hello sir, I use addon as my hd player..I bought it also in datablitz, cost almost 12 thou ata, but this was months back when I bought this. If its 7,500 nalang, thats a good price already to get in hd if you have xbox360..But I would prefer a standalone. I went to Pchin's place and check out his sounds, man I want to make upgrade (receiver/speakers) and a standalone, after hearing his. I appreciate audio more now..hehe..Its very nice..The problem is my room I cant crank up the volume that much and my wife dont like loud sounds hehe...But having better receiver and speakers I think you get better detail...So thats the positive I think..

Its good to know that after months of use, ur xbox hasnt cranked out yet..gives me confidence that mine wont either..Im from Cebu and it still costs 11 thou here, with the free King Kong..it is sounding really good..if nothing else comes up, ill probably get one by the end of the month..

pchin · « **Reply #24 on:** Oct 20, 2007 at 12:47 AM »

Quote from: chuck427 on Oct 18, 2007 at 10:06 AM

im currently using Denon 1905 receiver with my Xbox360 connected using optical..so im hoping DD will sound ok..

Since you already own a Xbox 360 console, the next logical step is the HD DVD add-on. This will be much cheaper than importing a stand alone player.

aeris30 · « **Reply #25 on:** Oct 20, 2007 at 08:34 AM »

BTW the Xbox360 add-on drive is also using a Toshiba hd dvd drive.

chuck427 · « **Reply #26 on:** Oct 21, 2007 at 04:23 AM »

thanks for the info guys.. ill be making a decision by the end of this month..probably get either by 1st week of November hopefully..

pchin · « **Reply #27 on:** Oct 21, 2007 at 09:21 AM »

Probbaly you could get it before end of the month kc it's a very very long weekend from Nov 1-4 eh

You will be able to set up & enjoy your HD movies during the long weekend...perfect timing noh...just a thought.

chuck427 · « **Reply #28 on:** Oct 21, 2007 at 10:50 PM »

Quote from: pchin on Oct 21, 2007 at 09:21 AM

Probbaly you could get it before end of the month kc it's a very very long weekend from Nov 1-4 eh

You will be able to set up & enjoy your HD movies during the long weekend...perfect timing noh...just a thought.

good point..hmmm...i agree.. thats 4 days i could use watching Transformers over and over..hehehehehe..thanks for the good idea!!!

bravoexo · « **Reply #29 on:** Oct 29, 2007 at 09:19 PM »

Anyone having problems playing the Transformers HD-DVD?