Author Topic: Sakura - Wharfedale (Read 6008 times)

AsheCorven · « **on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 10:21 AM »

Hello po mga masters, patulong naman. I'm planning to have my own HT for my room. My room is small so floorstanders are out of the equation; pag mag floorstanders kase ako i might not really use its maximum potential baka mabingi ako so sayang naman and also space is a concern. Im also on a tight budget so out po yung mga talagang mahal na brands.

Pwede na ba to?

FL/FR - Wharfedale Diamond 9.1
Center - Wharfedale WH-2 Center
Surrounds - Wharfedale WH-2 Surrounds

Amp - Sakura AV-378 - Nabasa ko po to sa Sakura thread and ok naman yung mga reviews. Pero yung mga reviews ay Sakura - DTX combination so tanong ko lng sana kung OK to para i-drive ang mga Wharfedales. Yung sound quality ng Sakura - Wharfedale for Movies and Music ok rin po ba? Yung system ko kase 50% movies and 50% music.

Subwoofer - Hingi po ako ng recommendations. Yung mura lng po.

Nabasa ko rin dito na gumaga ng custom subwoofer si sir NRVBLKR, ano po ba yung specs ng sub nia and how much. Ok rin ba for music and movies?

Thanks..

gearhead · « **Reply #1 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 11:50 AM »

magkano ba yung sakura amp that you're eyeing? abang ka na lang sa ht marketplace, baka me makita kang entry-level yamaha ng mga mag-upgrade. ipon lang ng konti. since you're on a budget, mukhang your chosen speakers will do na sa small room mo. otherwise, you can also try looking at the wharfedale crystal series. value speakers ito ng wharfe. saw a complete set of them sa 3rd floor(??), virra mall, greenhills... malapit lang din sa mga computer shops doon.

AsheCorven · « **Reply #2 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 12:55 PM »

Yung Sakura AV-378 ay 3.5K according sa mga nababasa ko sa Sakura thread. Maganda rin ba yung Wharfedale Crystals? Gusto ko talaga yung sound and looks ng Wharfedale Diamond 9.1. Yung WH-2 Surround and Center ay nabasa ko rin sa ibang threads pero hindi ko pa to na testing. Sinama ko lng sya sa list ko kase 4K lng both surround and center so mura na.

reynold · « **Reply #3 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 01:05 PM »

patience is virtue my friend... if i were you, abang ka lang ng Yamaha receivers if you're into HT, or might as well post ka ng "Looking for an entry level yamaha receiver" sa B&S section, no harm in trying, baka makakuha ka ng magandang deal, the advantage of these receivers against sakura is their optical/co-axial output, mas mae-enjoy mo ang HT mo with these features, imo

for the speakers, oks ang wharfs, or you may try din dai-1chi speakers. medyo ipon ka pa ng konti para mas ok ang set-up mo

kimosabe · « **Reply #4 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 01:16 PM »

tama sila bro, ipon ka muna para sa entry level na AVR para iwas SARS

. much better if later ka na bumili ng surround idagdag mo na lang muna sa budget mo for AVR.

AsheCorven · « **Reply #5 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 02:27 PM »

To KimosabE - ano ba ibig sabihin ng SARS? I'm sure hindi SARS na nakakahawa yung ibig mong sabihin.. hehehe..

Magkano kaya yung Yamaha AVR na entry level na second hand? Sa December ko pa naman bibilhin yung mga nakalista na speakers, nagiipon pa ako ngayon.

How about SUBWOOFER, may ma rerecommend ba kayo? Yung good for both movies and music. For music, dapat accurate and mag blend ng maayos sa Wharfedale 9.1 para macomplement nya ng husto yung limited bass extension ng Wharfs tapos pag movies, dapat medjo malalim yung extension nia para labas lahat ng LFE ng movie..

reynold · « **Reply #6 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 02:51 PM »

To answer your question to Kimosabe...
S.A.R.S. - Severe Audio Replacement Syndrome (sakit ng mga audioholics ata eto, hehehe...)

You can find some 2nd hand entry level yamaha receivers ranging from 7K to 10K bro, meron din sa buynsellph.com.

As for the subwoofer, marami din sa B&S section na nagbebenta, for your room size, an 8 or 10 incher will do bro, if you have the budget go for velodyne, pwede mo ihuli na ang subwoofer

btw, oks ang sw sa HT setup, but for audio setup, a left/right channel will do basta ok ang speakers mo, mapa-bookshelf or floorstand yan, or might as well, try a separate Audio set-up in the future

IMO

kingkydoo · « **Reply #7 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 03:42 PM »

If you're really in a budget, try Dai-ichi speakers. Ok din naman ang tunog ng speakers nila. Magresearch ka na lang dito sa forums regarding sa Dai-chi. Pero siyempre I'd go with the Wharfs if I had the money (pogi points na rin

).

Tama sila, be patient in buying your AV receiver. Huwag mong madaliin, baka magsisi ka lang at mapapagastos ka lang lalo niyan kung hindi ka nasatisfy.

As for subs, ok din ang DTX 4.15. Nagka-groupbuy noon dito. Sayang hindi mo naabutan. IMO, masyado lang malaki, mahirap sa space (constraints). Try looking for a 10-incher. Ok na siguro sa room mo.

Or look, for pre-owned gears sa buy and sell forums. Malay mo maka-tsamba ka ng good deal.

kimosabe · « **Reply #8 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 04:02 PM »

Quote from: AsheCorven on Oct 16, 2007 at 02:27 PM

To KimosabE - ano ba ibig sabihin ng SARS? I'm sure hindi SARS na nakakahawa yung ibig mong sabihin.. hehehe..

SARS??? naku nakakahawa yan iwas ka dami dito sa pdvd na may SARS

. buti na lang ako gumaling na

AsheCorven · « **Reply #9 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 04:39 PM »

To reynold - Hahaha, yan pala ang meaning ng SARS.. thanks. Magkano ba ang Velodyne na sub and what model specifically? Ok lng pag wala pong subwoofer pero nung tinesting ko yung Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 medjo mahina po ang bass, IMO lng. Tapos marami po akong music na pinapakinggan eh, iba-iba. From mellow acoustic to rock music that are heavy on bass especially yung bands na drop-tuned yung sound.

To kingkydoo - Yung nabasa ko sa thread about Dai-ichi, hindi naman nagkakalayo yung price nila sa Wharfedale Diamond 9.1. Mas gusto ko yung looks ng Wharf and yung size nia ok talaga para sa room ko. Maghahanap pa ako ng low-priced second hand AVR. By December pa naman ako talaga bibili. Oo nga sayang hindi ko naabutan yung group-buy but considering yung size ng DTX 4.15 sa size ng room ko, if ever nakabili ako nun, baka maging pressure cooker yung room ko. hehehe..

NMM1 · « **Reply #10 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 04:45 PM »

for the sub, try the DTX, i think i saw one up for grabs sa B&S section...

onedown · « **Reply #11 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 05:05 PM »

AsheCorven,

if budget is tight, i suggest that you build your system gradually. don't get everything in one go. start with a decent amp and front speakers. choose a combination that sounds good to you. then as more funds become available, get the center speaker, surrounds, and finally the sub.

some people are eager to get a full 5.1 system, only to find out that they want something better. some eventually end up selling their old system, often at a loss to fund their upgrade.

reynold · « **Reply #12 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 05:26 PM »

Quote from: AsheCorven on Oct 16, 2007 at 04:39 PM

To reynold - Hahaha, yan pala ang meaning ng SARS.. thanks. Magkano ba ang Velodyne na sub and what model specifically? Ok lng pag wala pong subwoofer pero nung tinesting ko yung Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 medjo mahina po ang bass, IMO lng. Tapos marami po akong music na pinapakinggan eh, iba-iba. From mellow acoustic to rock music that are heavy on bass especially yung bands na drop-tuned yung sound.

I don't know the exact price of a velodyne SW, but based on some post here in Pdvd, a 10 incher is @ 10K up, 2nd hand pa ata yun, hehehe mahal ang velo pero oks ang review... I'm using an all Dai-1chi (DTX) speaker set-up kasi e, yamaha rxv-440 receiver ko and dtx 4.15 SW ko for HT, pati sa audio set-up ko DTX 9.5T (floorstand) rin ang gamit ko which is good din in all types of music. I tried to connect my dtx 4.10 sa audio set-up ko pero parang overkill na sa bass, di na maganda pakinggan so i end up using only the floorstand speakers and selling my dtx 4.10. well that's me, hehehe

Pero if you prefer to have a subwoofer pa rin on your audio set-up, that's fine, what'is important here is that you will enjoy your set-up

Btw, naka-post nga pala yung dtx 4.10 ko sa B&S section ngayon, in case you're interested, hehehe

Baka hindi pa lang nabe-break-in yung wharfs na in-audition mo, most of the speakers need to be break-in muna especially kapag brand new, kaya siguro hindi pa lumalabas yung full performance nya...

Anyway, timpi-timpi ka muna, good things come to those who waits

Goodluck bro

AsheCorven · « **Reply #13 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 05:38 PM »

To reynold - Cge i'll check your DTX 4.10. Pwede PM mo ko sa price? hehehe.. Ano ba yung specs ng DTX 4.10 subwoofer mo? Ano ba ibig sabihin nang break-in? As in dapat ibabad talaga or patugtugin nang matagal para maka "warm-up" para lumabas na talaga yung potential nia? Tapos need ko talaga ng subwoofer kase nga gagamitin ko rin for HT hindi lng pang music and siguro pag may party sabahay, gagamitin ko rin sa sala para impress lahat... hehehehe..

reynold · « **Reply #14 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 06:15 PM »

ygpm

yup, the speakers need time to bring it's full potential. kailangan araw-araw na gamit, 2x a day para maganda for 2 hours, siguro in a week or two, break in na ang speakers mo nun

gearhead · « **Reply #15 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 08:32 PM »

just to give you an idea:

2nd hand Yamaha 340/350........ @8k-10k
2nd hand Wharfe SW150 .......... @4.5k-6k
2nd hand Diamond 9.1 .............. @4k
2nd hand Diamond 9.CS ............ @3.5-4k
2nd hand Diamond 9.DFS .......... @3-4k
Brand new DTX 10" subs ........... @5k???
Brand new Velo VX-10 ............... @13k??
MAG/Skyworth 26" ..................... @28k

Your set, once complete ............. P-R-I-C-E-L-E-S-S

AsheCorven · « **Reply #16 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 10:33 PM »

To gearhead - Thanks bro sa pricelist. Meron ka bang alam o binebenta na 2nd hand Yamaha AVR? Anong Yamaha 350 pala to? Kase dalawang Yamaha 350 yung nakita ko - Yamaha RX-350 and Yamaha RX-V350. Ang RX-350 ay two channel amp lng while ang RX-V350 ay 5.1 multichannel amp..

Tanong ko na rin pala, may pagkakaiba ba sa sound quality between binding post and ordinary clip-spring type wire terminals? Kase yung RX-V350 ang main L/R speakers ling ang binding posts tapos yung center and surround, clip-spring type na terminals.

AsheCorven · « **Reply #17 on:** Oct 16, 2007 at 10:53 PM »

Hello po mga masters, patulong naman. I'm planning to have my own HT for my room. My room is small so floorstanders are out of the equation; pag mag floorstanders kase ako i might not really use its maximum potential baka mabingi ako so sayang naman and also space is a concern. Im also on a tight budget so out po yung mga talagang mahal na brands.

Pwede na ba to?

FL/FR - Wharfedale Diamond 9.1
Center - Wharfedale WH-2 Center
Surrounds - Wharfedale WH-2 Surrounds

Amp - Sakura AV-378 - Nabasa ko po to sa Sakura thread and ok naman yung mga reviews. Pero yung mga reviews ay Sakura - DTX combination so tanong ko lng sana kung OK to para i-drive ang mga Wharfedales. Yung sound quality ng Sakura - Wharfedale for Movies and Music ok rin po ba? Yung system ko kase 50% movies and 50% music.

Subwoofer - Hingi po ako ng recommendations. Yung mura lng po.

Nabasa ko rin dito na gumaga ng custom subwoofer si sir NRVBLKR, ano po ba yung specs ng sub nia and how much. Ok rin ba for music and movies?

Thanks..

kingkydoo · « **Reply #18 on:** Oct 17, 2007 at 07:45 AM »

Quote from: AsheCorven on Oct 16, 2007 at 10:33 PM

To gearhead - Thanks bro sa pricelist. Meron ka bang alam o binebenta na 2nd hand Yamaha AVR? Anong Yamaha 350 pala to? Kase dalawang Yamaha 350 yung nakita ko - Yamaha RX-350 and Yamaha RX-V350. Ang RX-350 ay two channel amp lng while ang RX-V350 ay 5.1 multichannel amp..

Tanong ko na rin pala, may pagkakaiba ba sa sound quality between binding post and ordinary clip-spring type wire terminals? Kase yung RX-V350 ang main L/R speakers ling ang binding posts tapos yung center and surround, clip-spring type na terminals.

Sir, as much as possible, opt for the binding posts. Kapag spring-clip type kasi, maliit lang ang wires na mapapasok niyo sa butas ng spring-clip.

FYI, may nagbebenta din dito minsan ng RX-V450 (or 430 or 440) na P8-10k lang. Baka makatsamba ka.

Of course, buy the one with 5.1 channels. Bakit ka pa mag-HT kung 2 channels lang

AsheCorven · « **Reply #19 on:** Oct 17, 2007 at 10:20 AM »

To kingkydoo - Thanks sir sa info about spring-clip and binding posts terminals. Cge po i'll look for a Yamaha na mura talaga. Or baka kung may alam ka, PM mo naman ako ha.. hehehe.. Thanks..

npark · « **Reply #20 on:** Oct 17, 2007 at 11:38 AM »

intay mo yamaha ko by december avr-496 5.1

blackie · « **Reply #21 on:** Oct 20, 2007 at 05:16 AM »

Agree with Gearhead!

Go for the second hand branded amps

or better yet save up for an entry level branded receiver. Wharfedale Diamond series not that hard to drive

Cheers

gearhead · « **Reply #22 on:** Oct 20, 2007 at 06:54 AM »

one of the wisdoms of buying a more capable system is that then you won't have to be repeating all your dvd/cd collection just to appreciate them in your new system everytime you upgrade.

besides, it becomes false economy to be buying cheap now and then sell it cheaper at much loss. the money you throw disposing old items could have just been added to your current budget to get better performing ones.

AsheCorven · « **Reply #23 on:** Oct 20, 2007 at 11:49 PM »

mga bro, thanks sa response ha.. change ko na po yung system list ko..

ok na po to?

AVR
Marantz SR-4300 6.1 Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital EX, Dolby ProLogic I/II, DTS-ES 6.1 Discrete/Matrix,Neo:6 AVR

Fronts
Wharfedale Diamond 9.1

Center
Wharfedale Modus 2 - Ok po ba to? Hindi ko pa to narinig eh. Kasama kase sya sa package ng Wharfedale Diamond 9.1

Surrounds - Can't decide which one to buy.
Dai-Ichi Euro6 Bookshelf Speakers - Na-demo ko na to sa showroom nang Dai-ichi sa Megamall and maganda naman yung sound.

or

Wharfedale WH-2 Surround - I-dedemo ko sana ito sa the Listening Room sa Mega pero walang demo unit daw.

Subwoofer
Dai-Ichi DTX 4.10 - Ok ba yung sound nito on both HT and Audio apps?

vapo_chill · « **Reply #24 on:** Oct 21, 2007 at 06:47 AM »

if i was to be asked, you can go with all-euros/dai ichi setup and with the receiver that you have mentioned above. mas ok kung galing sa isang manufacturer or line ang speakers mo for a well balanced setup, you can use the euros-bs for your fronts and surround then a euros center too, then if your receiver has a speaker selector/switch, purchase a 9.1 naman for music.

just my 2 cents

RXV · « **Reply #25 on:** Oct 21, 2007 at 10:23 AM »

Quote from: AsheCorven on Oct 20, 2007 at 11:49 PM

mga bro, thanks sa response ha.. change ko na po yung system list ko..

ok na po to?

AVR
Marantz SR-4300 6.1 Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital EX, Dolby ProLogic I/II, DTS-ES 6.1 Discrete/Matrix,Neo:6 AVR

Fronts
Wharfedale Diamond 9.1

Center
Wharfedale Modus 2 - Ok po ba to? Hindi ko pa to narinig eh. Kasama kase sya sa package ng Wharfedale Diamond 9.1

Surrounds - Can't decide which one to buy.
Dai-Ichi Euro6 Bookshelf Speakers - Na-demo ko na to sa showroom nang Dai-ichi sa Megamall and maganda naman yung sound.

or

Wharfedale WH-2 Surround - I-dedemo ko sana ito sa the Listening Room sa Mega pero walang demo unit daw.

Subwoofer
Dai-Ichi DTX 4.10 - Ok ba yung sound nito on both HT and Audio apps?

Sir, saan mo nakita na naka-package ang wharfedale modus center sa diamond 9.1?

Yung WH-2 surround pwede mo ma-audition sa spectra parksquare mkti.

Yung DTX 4.10, dipende sa room size yan. Though maganda ang 10" for music, hindi ko lang alam kung malakas yan for HT, maybe for a small room. Also try considering a 12" sub. Pero IMO, maganda naman performance ng DTX (I own a DTX 4.15)

blackie · « **Reply #26 on:** Oct 22, 2007 at 02:50 AM »

Have you considererd Diamond CS for your center? Not to familiar with Wharfe Modus. Wharfe surrounds would be nice too, para match lahat. Great decision on getting a branded receiver. My uncle has an almost similar setup-Marantz Wharfedale and he has enjoyed it for some time already. By the way, Diamond 9.1 dami accolades nyan

You can always use the surrounds and 9.1 for a more detailed set up if ever you decide to get floor standers

Always trust the ears

theblue · « **Reply #27 on:** Oct 22, 2007 at 06:10 AM »

Hi! I Just set up a Home theater system with wharfies as the speakers. Here is my setup

Pioneer VXS-517
Wharfedale 9.1 - Front left/right
Wharfedale 9.CS - Center Channel
Wharfedale 9.DFS - Surround Channel
Monster Cable optical cable
Monster Cable Coaxial cable
Playstation 2 and DVD player as source

Maybe I can help u out with the wharfies. I believe i know a lot about them. Feel free to ask!

theblue · « **Reply #28 on:** Oct 22, 2007 at 06:15 AM »

Nga pala,

I have an improvised subwoofer. Meaning a separate analog amplifier from JVC driving 1 speaker from Acoustic Research. It Rocks!!

For added info I got these Wharfedale jewels for
Wharfeldale 9.1 ....P5600.00
Wharfedale 9.CS... P4500.00
Wharfedale 9.DFS...P4500.00

Enjoy Pinoy audiphiles!

AsheCorven · « **Reply #29 on:** Oct 22, 2007 at 04:52 PM »

To theblue - So how does your set-up sounds like on both HT and AUDIO? ok rin ba?