Author Topic: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out (Read 164516 times)

dvdspike · « **Reply #120 on:** Apr 23, 2012 at 08:50 AM »

Quote from: juneaki on Apr 23, 2012 at 08:04 AM

I just got a NAD 3100 integrated amp through a swap. The amp makes my Wharfedale Valdus floorstander sing better than my previous amp. The mids and highs are perfect and the lows are loud enough but not boomy. May konti lang problem, yung led light na nakatapat sa soft clipping ay permanently lit! Is it normal? Di ba magli-lit lang sya kung may soft clippings just to give signal? Merong switch on or off sa likod para sa soft clipping, pag naka-off sya, di ba disable yung function?

If your speakers are not really that fragile might as well disengage the use of the soft clipping. For better SQ.

fattyacid · « **Reply #121 on:** Apr 23, 2012 at 10:20 AM »

Quote from: dvdspike on Apr 22, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Yup subs are for queers hehe JMHO
Then again I decided for now to keep my PSB 6 it gives me adequate bass for my room. And it sings wonderful really!

Ika nga ni saer MikeC, Bookshelves+SUB are better than floorstanders in terms producing the lower regions of audio. Meron na rin kasing mga synthed music na may very low lows na di kaya ng FS alone. Meron namang acoustic lang pero lumelebel pag kinabitan mo nung sub. Ive integrated my 325 with a sub via y-connector at preouts and the bass of "Colour to the Moon" by Allan Taylor is as smooth as chocolate.

sientobente · « **Reply #122 on:** Apr 24, 2012 at 07:32 AM »

Quote from: dvdspike on Apr 22, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Yup subs are for queers hehe JMHO
Then again I decided for now to keep my PSB 6 it gives me adequate bass for my room. And it sings wonderful really!

Hehehe

Na-audition ko pala sir Matt yung PSB Subseries 200. Very tight bass. Impressed by it. Parang mas bagay nga siya pang audio. I'm sure mas maganda pa yung 300 na you are eyeing.

Just to give an update, I found that using the tone controls on my 326bee shows very minimal changes in my audio. Mas maganda pa timpla ng Foobar(PC music software) when using it's eq.

Stagea · « **Reply #123 on:** Apr 24, 2012 at 07:39 AM »

Quote from: sientobente on Apr 24, 2012 at 07:32 AM

Just to give an update, I found that using the tone controls on my 326bee shows very minimal changes in my audio. Mas maganda pa timpla ng Foobar(PC music software) when using it's eq.

Most integrated amps and preamps center the bass and treble controls sa frequency extremes to gradually tilt yung overall response (very low Q). Pangcorrect sila ng spectral balance. This is why hindi ganun kalaki ang apparent effect nila. You normally won't get pounding bass or searing highs maski isagad mo yan.

Arulco · « **Reply #124 on:** Apr 24, 2012 at 08:21 AM »

Quote from: fattyacid on Apr 23, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Ika nga ni saer MikeC, Bookshelves+SUB are better than floorstanders in terms producing the lower regions of audio. Meron na rin kasing mga synthed music na may very low lows na di kaya ng FS alone. Meron namang acoustic lang pero lumelebel pag kinabitan mo nung sub. Ive integrated my 325 with a sub via y-connector at preouts and the bass of "Colour to the Moon" by Allan Taylor is as smooth as chocolate.

+1000

Real men use subs for music. LOL

Sa electronic music at heavy metal, nothing beats having a proper sub or two.

Although nakarinig na rin ako ng high-end floorstander na very satisfactory ang bass performance. Hindi pa ako nakakarining ng tunay na full-range floorstander though. Lupit siguro nun.

dvdspike · « **Reply #125 on:** Apr 24, 2012 at 08:36 AM »

HEHE I need a sub more so for the video experience of being there ika nga. My problem is how best to integrate one with my NAD 326BEE. It has sub outs actually 2 and the regular pre-outs. Is there somebody here in the know on how to get it all going? I asked SNS and they tell me to just use one sub out and bahala na yun x'over ng active sub to do the job.

But carefully listening to the hooked up set up di maganda ang SQ it was just slambang noise with distortions pa? They had to pull back on the volume often riding it as the movie goes on.

If you watch the opening battle scene at the movie Gladiator with the sub the efx was there as far as the slam bang was concerned. However with the sub on the background music score suffered a lot! I dunno if it's just me but my ears were sensitive to the music which to me was very important?

I want a sub, how do I hook them up perfectly without compromising my SQ for audio and video using the NAD, HELP!

@120 btw the tone controls of my NAD326 BEE does a good job of things without muddying the midrange when I use them Igan.

markcrenz · « **Reply #126 on:** Apr 24, 2012 at 11:47 AM »

Quote from: dvdspike on Apr 24, 2012 at 08:36 AM

If you watch the opening battle scene at the movie Gladiator with the sub the efx was there as far as the slam bang was concerned. However with the sub on the background music score suffered a lot! I dunno if it's just me but my ears were sensitive to the music which to me was very important?

I want a sub, how do I hook them up perfectly without compromising my SQ for audio and video using the NAD, HELP!

you probably have nulls and/or peaks at and/or near the crossover region. that's usually taken care of by an avr's calibration facilities.

play around with the crossover settings AND phase control to get the best integration between sub & bookshelves. doesn't matter whether it's music or movies, they're supposed to flatly reproduce the entire frequency spectrum.

Fernan19 · « **Reply #127 on:** May 12, 2012 at 07:29 PM »

Hi, im using nad 326.. What compatible cd player for the amp? Thanks guys

sientobente · « **Reply #128 on:** May 17, 2012 at 10:05 AM »

Quote from: Fernan19 on May 12, 2012 at 07:29 PM

Hi, im using nad 326.. What compatible cd player for the amp? Thanks guys

I'm using my laptop as a cdp + an external dac for my 326 and it does the job well naman. If you want a dedicated cdp, I'd skip the 515. Wait for the 546 to be released locally

juneaki · « **Reply #129 on:** May 19, 2012 at 05:14 PM »

Quote from: dvdspike on Apr 23, 2012 at 08:50 AM

If your speakers are not really that fragile might as well disengage the use of the soft clipping. For better SQ.

switched off the soft clipping mode, so far so good. thanks

alfonzojz · « **Reply #130 on:** May 21, 2012 at 11:16 PM »

Ask lang mga sir, if i use the pre out of the 356 for subwoofer (Klipsch DSW RD10) ano kaya magandang set up ng crossover? TIA

Stagea · « **Reply #131 on:** May 22, 2012 at 02:55 AM »

Quote from: alfonzojz on May 21, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Ask lang mga sir, if i use the pre out of the 356 for subwoofer (Klipsch DSW RD10) ano kaya magandang set up ng crossover? TIA

That's dependent on your speakers, your room and your layout.

Carps · « **Reply #132 on:** May 22, 2012 at 08:11 PM »

Hi mga sir/s. I have a NAD 356 and I'm using it to drive a 4 ohms speaker. I read in the specs that it is rated at 80 watts on both 4 and 8 ohms.
Is there a switch that I need to move to shift to 4 ohms or does it automatically detects the load?

Stagea · « **Reply #133 on:** May 22, 2012 at 11:38 PM »

Quote from: Carps on May 22, 2012 at 08:11 PM

Hi mga sir/s. I have a NAD 356 and I'm using it to drive a 4 ohms speaker. I read in the specs that it is rated at 80 watts on both 4 and 8 ohms.
Is there a switch that I need to move to shift to 4 ohms or does it automatically detects the load?

It automatically switches rails as necessary.

Carps · « **Reply #134 on:** May 23, 2012 at 09:14 AM »

Thank you very much for the reply sir.

@nk71 · « **Reply #135 on:** Jun 26, 2012 at 12:17 PM »

Any users of NAD T-175 preamp here ?
Is this locally available ?

ricworks · « **Reply #136 on:** Jul 04, 2012 at 09:07 PM »

NAD NEWS (April 25, 2012):

NAD Electronics just announced the immediate availability of their C 375DAC ($1600) MSRP) and C 356DAC ($900) MSRP). These two new integrated amplifier models offer the company's C 375BEE and C 356BEE with NAD MDC DACs factory installed.

It seems they only add $100 from the price of original 356bee for the inclusion of MDC DAC which costs msrp $250 as separate. good deal?

any idea how good are NAD MDC DAC (burr brown dac, 32-192khz optical, 32-96khz usb) compare to external dacs like v-dac, HRT, nuforce, etc.?

available na kaya ito sa local market?

Stagea · « **Reply #137 on:** Aug 31, 2012 at 10:40 PM »

C 390DD

http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2012/07/nad-c-390dd-powered-dac-amplifier-review-part-1/
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2012/08/nad-c-390dd-powered-dac-amplifier-review-part-2/

Stagea · « **Reply #138 on:** Oct 14, 2012 at 08:27 AM »

NAD is really investing on Digital. They started with Direct Digital Amps (Master M2 and Classic C390DD), and is now bringing the technology to DACs. The Master M51 is the first product I've seen that's marketed as a "Direct Digital DAC."

It's essentially like a "Direct Digital Amp" or a "Power DAC" with an output that's meant to be connected to a power amp. It's a PWM DAC with Preamp capability on the digital side that accepts PCM inputs.

Like Direct Digital Amps, the output measurements are truly impressive. I have not seen an output waveform this clean:

M51

In comparison, here's a very popular conventional DAC:

The noise floor and distortion levels are also mind mindbogglingly low. I can't think of anything this good short of a dCS or EMM Labs product.

Tavus · « **Reply #139 on:** Oct 15, 2012 at 05:27 PM »

nice of nad to use hdmi

Stagea · « **Reply #140 on:** Oct 16, 2012 at 05:52 AM »

Quote from: Tavus on Oct 15, 2012 at 05:27 PM

nice of nad to use hdmi

Yep, it's supposed to let you use video sources on it as long as it streams 2 channel PCM. I'm thoroughly impressed with its measured performance, especially since it only retails for $2000. It may not be as feature-packed as the dCS Vivaldi set, but the output quality comes very close at 1/70 of the price.

The NAD M2 and the C390DD still seem like smarter options for those who still don't have an amp, however.

The C390DD can also come with HDMI:

sgxp · « **Reply #141 on:** Oct 16, 2012 at 04:07 PM »

cno meron nang c390dd/m2/m51dac? di pa keri ng local dist, kainis. Ganda cguro m51dac --xlr--> class A amp (di na kelangan TT & toob amp hehe)...in fernes, may mga nag-tinda na daw ng tt setup nila nung nagkaron daw cla ng m51

Stagea · « **Reply #142 on:** Oct 16, 2012 at 11:44 PM »

Quote from: sgxp97 on Oct 16, 2012 at 04:07 PM

cno meron nang c390dd/m2/m51dac? di pa keri ng local dist, kainis. Ganda cguro m51dac --xlr--> class A amp (di na kelangan TT & toob amp hehe)...in fernes, may mga nag-tinda na daw ng tt setup nila nung nagkaron daw cla ng m51

Available daw by order ang M2. I'm not sure about the C390DD and M51, baka ganun din.

john5479 · « **Reply #143 on:** Oct 17, 2012 at 09:42 PM »

I hope we can order, who is the distributor now?

armymanhaha · « **Reply #144 on:** Oct 18, 2012 at 06:14 AM »

im curious sa price ng m51. magkano kaya ma expect natin kung cash price?

in a market for a new dac

Stagea · « **Reply #145 on:** Oct 18, 2012 at 07:26 AM »

Quote from: john5479 on Oct 17, 2012 at 09:42 PM

I hope we can order, who is the distributor now?

It's still Hi-Fi+ Asia, afaik.

Quote from: armymanhaha on Oct 18, 2012 at 06:14 AM

im curious sa price ng m51. magkano kaya ma expect natin kung cash price?

in a market for a new dac

That I don't know, especially since special order. Give your dealer a call. Perhaps they can help you.

It's a spectacular DAC at any price point.

armymanhaha · « **Reply #146 on:** Oct 18, 2012 at 01:19 PM »

It doubles as a preamp din diba? sa $2k parang mura pa nga kasi power amp nalang ang kelangan. With that, i can sell my integrated amp to buy a separate beefed-up power amp to power my PSB synchronies.

Stagea · « **Reply #147 on:** Oct 19, 2012 at 04:19 AM »

Quote from: armymanhaha on Oct 18, 2012 at 01:19 PM

It doubles as a preamp din diba? sa $2k parang mura pa nga kasi power amp nalang ang kelangan. With that, i can sell my integrated amp to buy a separate beefed-up power amp to power my PSB synchronies.

Yup that's doable, as it works as a preamp na din.

The M2 / C390DD go a step further by keeping everything digital upto final amplification. This is an even cleaner path than say an M51 and an M3.

M2 and Synchrony One

armymanhaha · « **Reply #148 on:** Oct 19, 2012 at 05:59 AM »

out of reach naman yung m2

yung c390dd kaya? sapat na kaya yung 50wpc?

Stagea · « **Reply #149 on:** Oct 19, 2012 at 07:14 AM »

Quote from: armymanhaha on Oct 19, 2012 at 05:59 AM

out of reach naman yung m2

yung c390dd kaya? sapat na kaya yung 50wpc?

What amp are you using now? 150WPC ata yung rating ng C390DD. That's plenty of power for the Synchrony One B.

The digital room mode EQ and sub crossover features could also be useful if you care about these.