Topic: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out

[tenderobject]

Salamat ser. Yung Wireless DAC 2 ng NAD parang ok.. Gusto ko din kase wireless para mailayo ko sa PC yung setup ko. Ayaw ko ng mahabang cord.

Will check the other DACs. Sana match sa NAD. Medyo nagalinlangan ako sa matching sa NAD dahil yung phono preamp ko hindi ganun ka OK sa NAD kumpara sa built in Preamp ng turntable ko. Di ko alam bakit. Baka na din sa cart ko. Dati kase nakaconnect ang ART DJpre ko sa Edifier powered speakers. Baka hindi nailalabas ng setup ko date yung kakulangan ng cart ko kaya parang ok na siya saken date. Ngayon iba eh. Basa basa din ako muna.

Will check the PSB speakers din. Ok din ba sa tube amps ang PSB?

Salamat ulit mga ser!

Tama ka sir.. Pc -> dac -> nad amp -> speakers

Daming dac sa market, my reccomendations

Nad D 1050 dac
Rega dac
Audiolab dac
Cambridge audio dac

Speakers - psb b6, t6, synchrony one b


Ohh im a nad and psb user by the way..

[tenderobject]

Ser Dodie, nagulat ako sa soundcard ko. Maayos siya tumunog. Date kase gamit ko Ipad at Phone ko. Mas ok tumunog kung direkta sa PC kaya ganun ginagawa ko. Pero ayaw ko na sana ng may cord para din mailipat ko ang setup ko sa maayos na location.

Magbasa basa ako about wireless DAC. Yung NAD wireless DAC 2 mura mura dito. Baka yun ang kunin ko kung sakale. Iniisip ko din yung Airport express or Ipure-20. May mga nakagamit na ba sa inyo ng mga wireless dacs na ito? Not sure kung yung Airpot express ay DAC. Mas convenient kase saken kung naka wireless wala kase ko dedicated na digital source pang audio. PC lang. Yung Ipad para sa anak ko eh hehe..

pag yung galing sa built in, then it myt be crappy. but if your a pc geek, malamang may dedicated na soundcard ang pc mo. there are soundcards that can handle, i think, high resolution audio, high signal to noise ratio and a lower harmonic distorsion. but i prefer a seperate DAC. pwedeng palipat lipat ng source.

[tonedeaf]

^I'm using the NAD DAC 1. I posted my thoughts about it on the DAC thread: http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,189940.msg2163491.html#msg2163491

[tenderobject]

Salamat po

^I'm using the NAD DAC 1. I posted my thoughts about it on the DAC thread: http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,189940.msg2163491.html#msg2163491

[tonedeaf]

the DAC 1 is CD quality resolution. the SQ of the NAD DAC 2 is better

[tenderobject]

Ser Tonedeaf, magkano ang Wireless DAC 1 saten? Dito kase medyo nasa $200.

Ang pagkakaintindi ko sa DAC 1 ay 16bit/48kHz lamang kumpara sa DAC 2 na 24bit/96kHz. Magkano kaya saten ang DAC 2? Sino ang distro saten ng NAD? Para paguwi ko macheck ko ito.

Ito yung isa pang nasa isip ko na DAC. http://www.mav-audio.com/base/product/d1p Ok yung specs at features niya ang problema lang hindi siya wifi..

Possible naman ba ito? AMP + DAC + Airport Express? Mas malaki pa din kase puntos saken ng wifi kesa sa cord para convenient. Pero kung wala na talagang choice iba na lang..

the DAC 1 is CD quality resolution. the SQ of the NAD DAC 2 is better

[gremlin]

Salamat mga ser. Bale pangalawang araw pa lang ito. mga 15 hours pa lang nagagamit. So far ok siya sa mga sinasalang kong music! Very neutral at may pagkawarm. Hindi ako binigo ng NAD sound. Date kase naka 304 ako. although mas gusto ko tunog ng 326bee kesa sa 304 pero andun pa din yung NAD signature. Suabe! Di ko lang malakasan ngayon dahil baka mapagalitan ni misis. Hahaha

May mga upgrades ba kayo ginawa para sa NAD amp niyo? Dagdag sa audio chain? PC at Turntable lang sources ko. Nagiisip ako ng DAC + Preamp. Meron ba kayong maisusugest na ok na DAC na puede gawing Preamp na din?

Ito yung matagal ko ng plano. Kaya lang medyo nakakatakot magpadala sa Pinas lalo na sa lugar namin pambihira kase maningil ng tax! http://www.mav-audio.com/base/product/d1p

Salamat mga ser!

disclaimer, newbie in pdvd

recently acquired psb image t6 + nad 326bee.. then 3 days later psb subseries 300.  ifi iDsd micro gamit ko bossing - so far happing happy naman ako - although i do have the entire ifi stack kaya medyo malinis tumunog - im coming from the headphile world kaya meron ako ng kit na to. With the iDsd, kahit ipad with the camera adapter kit, solb yung tunog.  fast and accurate lows and very detailed mids - and the extension is amazing.    One thing i did have to do however was to replace my el-cheapo speaker wires with a high quality packaged one.  nawala yung harshness - lalo na sa money for nothing ng dire straits.  as for female vocals, nakakainlab. hehe.

[tenderobject]

Thanks.. I'll check IFI iDSD..

pansin ko sa 326bee + Monitor Audio BX2 lumilitaw ang panget na recording pag maganda ang husay tumunog! Pansin ko din pag cheapo ang cables nagiging harsh. Gamit ko kaseng IC ay monoprice lang at speaker cable ko chinese Arrow OFC cable. Noong nakakabit sa powered speakers ko itong cables na ito ok naman nung sa NAD na medyo matalas.. Sana mapalitan ko soon. Puntiryahin ko muna ang DAC kase halos 75% ngayon PC ang source ko. Olats kase ng turntable at phono pre amp ko.

Sa mga user ng 326bee at ibang nad amps. Nacheck niyo na ba ito? Ano sa tingin niyo?

http://thesoundapprentice.blogspot.com/2013/11/tweak-your-nad-preamp-jumpers-make-good.html

disclaimer, newbie in pdvd

recently acquired psb image t6 + nad 326bee.. then 3 days later psb subseries 300.  ifi iDsd micro gamit ko bossing - so far happing happy naman ako - although i do have the entire ifi stack kaya medyo malinis tumunog - im coming from the headphile world kaya meron ako ng kit na to. With the iDsd, kahit ipad with the camera adapter kit, solb yung tunog.  fast and accurate lows and very detailed mids - and the extension is amazing.    One thing i did have to do however was to replace my el-cheapo speaker wires with a high quality packaged one.  nawala yung harshness - lalo na sa money for nothing ng dire straits.  as for female vocals, nakakainlab. hehe.

[gremlin]

Thanks.. I'll check IFI iDSD..

pansin ko sa 326bee + Monitor Audio BX2 lumilitaw ang panget na recording pag maganda ang husay tumunog! Pansin ko din pag cheapo ang cables nagiging harsh. Gamit ko kaseng IC ay monoprice lang at speaker cable ko chinese Arrow OFC cable. Noong nakakabit sa powered speakers ko itong cables na ito ok naman nung sa NAD na medyo matalas.. Sana mapalitan ko soon. Puntiryahin ko muna ang DAC kase halos 75% ngayon PC ang source ko. Olats kase ng turntable at phono pre amp ko.

Sa mga user ng 326bee at ibang nad amps. Nacheck niyo na ba ito? Ano sa tingin niyo?

http://thesoundapprentice.blogspot.com/2013/11/tweak-your-nad-preamp-jumpers-make-good.html

makes sense and  worth a try. i do have some high quality interconnects i use for my headphone amp setup. that's all there is to it sa jena 'jumpers' na yun right? short, high quality interconnects?   That being said, if your dac has a preamp mode like the ifi does, wouldnt it be better to just plug the dac out direct into the main in? granted, the preamp section of the nad will be useless. but it should still work right?  or am i being a noob here? masubukan nga mamaya.  thanks!

[tonedeaf]

Ser Tonedeaf, magkano ang Wireless DAC 1 saten? Dito kase medyo nasa $200.

Ang pagkakaintindi ko sa DAC 1 ay 16bit/48kHz lamang kumpara sa DAC 2 na 24bit/96kHz. Magkano kaya saten ang DAC 2? Sino ang distro saten ng NAD? Para paguwi ko macheck ko ito.

DAC 1 here is about 14K, i think. I'm not sure if DAC 2 is available. NAD is available in a lot of stores here like Watts Hi Fi etc.

[DTNS]

disclaimer, newbie in pdvd

recently acquired psb image t6 + nad 326bee.. then 3 days later psb subseries 300.  ifi iDsd micro gamit ko bossing - so far happing happy naman ako - although i do have the entire ifi stack kaya medyo malinis tumunog - im coming from the headphile world kaya meron ako ng kit na to. With the iDsd, kahit ipad with the camera adapter kit, solb yung tunog.  fast and accurate lows and very detailed mids - and the extension is amazing.    One thing i did have to do however was to replace my el-cheapo speaker wires with a high quality packaged one.  nawala yung harshness - lalo na sa money for nothing ng dire straits.  as for female vocals, nakakainlab. hehe.

balak ko din yang iFi iDSD, pero yung nano version lang. medyo mahal yung micro iDSD.

[tenderobject]

What brand ang inyo interconnects? Balak ko sana mag start ng DIY cables pero quality parts. Bahala na.

Jena jumpers nga. Meron din Audioquest at ibang brands. Hirap lang bumili dito kase iba ayaw mag ship sa Iran.
Pinaplano kong bilhin yung Maverick Audio Tube DAC. Meron siyang preamp section. Not sure what config ang maari between NAD 326bee at Mav Audio Dac kung magkakaron ako. Update us kung susubukan mo yung Dac mo sa ganun config.

makes sense and  worth a try. i do have some high quality interconnects i use for my headphone amp setup. that's all there is to it sa jena 'jumpers' na yun right? short, high quality interconnects?   That being said, if your dac has a preamp mode like the ifi does, wouldnt it be better to just plug the dac out direct into the main in? granted, the preamp section of the nad will be useless. but it should still work right?  or am i being a noob here? masubukan nga mamaya.  thanks!

[tenderobject]

Thank you! Mas mura pala dito. Sa Amazon mas mura kaya lang 110v ata? Kailangan ko pa ng transformer para dun kung sakale.

DAC 1 here is about 14K, i think. I'm not sure if DAC 2 is available. NAD is available in a lot of stores here like Watts Hi Fi etc.

[tonedeaf]

Thank you! Mas mura pala dito. Sa Amazon mas mura kaya lang 110v ata? Kailangan ko pa ng transformer para dun kung sakale.

the one I got from Amazon is autovolt 110-240v.

[tenderobject]

Not bad! Pero yung included na PSU is 110v lang diba? Pagisipan ko to. 1 stock na lang meron!

the one I got from Amazon is autovolt 110-240v.

[AppleMan]

Baka pwede i-convert sa 220 volts

[tonedeaf]

Pero yung included na PSU is 110v lang diba? Pagisipan ko to. 1 stock na lang meron!

I'm not sure what PSU means. But I'm using it now in Manila and plugged in to 220 volts outlet. So far, ok pa naman sya.

[AppleMan]

PSU means power supply...

[splucktearse]

Just purchased these bad boys (buti nalang may promo dito sa UAE) a while ago:

NAD 356 BEE DAC - promo price 21k in Php
Klipsch RF 62 II Floorstanders - promo price 20k in Php

Quick review, but I am not not an expert.
We tested the amp using the display unit speakers (break in na) and an LG bluray player. We played a demo cd in store. Napansin ko agad na mas buo or mataba ang sound compared with the 326BEE. For me ok na ang sound ng 326 pero nung narinig ko tong 356 e nagulat ako kasi may igaganda pa pala. Clear crisp highs na hindi overly bright. Rich mids, swabeng swabe ang female voice, hindi siya laid back hindi rin sobrang forward, tamang tama lang sa panlasa ko. The bass is surprisingly clear, tight and punchy which is just my taste. I am surprised that the speakers can produce that amount bass without any hint of distortion. Very good soundstage, you can hear that the musical instruments are far from each other. Overall, full and rich sound. Ok na ok ang matching ng NAD at Klipsch.

Sayang walang promo ang subwoofers. Wait ko nalang ang december sale nila. I think I can live 3-4 months without a sub with these speakers.

Thanks sa mga sumagot sa questions ko, DTNS, sientobente, Nelson de Leon, mbtorn

[tenderobject]

Autovolt ang powersupply nila? Ayus pala! Salamat

I'm not sure what PSU means. But I'm using it now in Manila and plugged in to 220 volts outlet. So far, ok pa naman sya.

[rexFi]

...

NAD 356 BEE DAC - promo price 21k in Php
...

Thanks sa mga sumagot sa questions ko, DTNS, sientobente, Nelson de Leon, mbtorn

Target acquired.

[splucktearse]

Target acquired.

One problem, power requirement is 230V 50Hz. D'yan sa Pilipinas e 220V 60Hz. Walang prob sa voltage, sa frequency lang. anyway dito ko muna to gagamitin, di ko muna iuuwi sa Pilipinas hehe.

[AppleMan]

Wala namang issue sa hz pwede pa din yan sa pinas, yung 316bee ok naman wala naman ako naging issue.. Huwag lang mga motorized na appliances gaya ng washing machine o kaya aircon di pwede sa pinas....

[splucktearse]

Wala namang issue sa hz pwede pa din yan sa pinas, yung 316bee ok naman wala naman ako naging issue.. Huwag lang mga motorized na appliances gaya ng washing machine o kaya aircon di pwede sa pinas....

good to hear that sir china-man.

[grohl]

kabayan Splucktearse, saang audio store dyan sa UAE mo nabili ang NAD 356 amp/dac? meron din ba NAD 356 amp lang (w/o the dac)? how much sir? 

[splucktearse]

kabayan Splucktearse, saang audio store dyan sa UAE mo nabili ang NAD 356 amp/dac? meron din ba NAD 356 amp lang (w/o the dac)? how much sir? 

Sir sa Plug Ins dito sa Abu Dhabi Marina Mall ko siya nabili, pero meron din sa ibang branches. Ang alam ko Plug Ins lang ang may promo ngayon. Lahat ng audiophile brands nakasale
https://www.facebook.com/Plugins.ae/photos/pcb.817744494914158/817744321580842/?type=1&theater
http://dealsuae365.com/deals/deals-view/731/the-7th-audio-festival-2014-at-plug-ins.html#.VBiHvfmSxLk
Wala silang NAD 356 without DAC. Yung NAD 326 merong walang DAC.

[mbtorn]

Just purchased these bad boys (buti nalang may promo dito sa UAE) a while ago:

NAD 356 BEE DAC - promo price 21k in Php
Klipsch RF 62 II Floorstanders - promo price 20k in Php

Quick review, but I am not not an expert.
We tested the amp using the display unit speakers (break in na) and an LG bluray player. We played a demo cd in store. Napansin ko agad na mas buo or mataba ang sound compared with the 326BEE. For me ok na ang sound ng 326 pero nung narinig ko tong 356 e nagulat ako kasi may igaganda pa pala. Clear crisp highs na hindi overly bright. Rich mids, swabeng swabe ang female voice, hindi siya laid back hindi rin sobrang forward, tamang tama lang sa panlasa ko. The bass is surprisingly clear, tight and punchy which is just my taste. I am surprised that the speakers can produce that amount bass without any hint of distortion. Very good soundstage, you can hear that the musical instruments are far from each other. Overall, full and rich sound. Ok na ok ang matching ng NAD at Klipsch.

Sayang walang promo ang subwoofers. Wait ko nalang ang december sale nila. I think I can live 3-4 months without a sub with these speakers.

Thanks sa mga sumagot sa questions ko, DTNS, sientobente, Nelson de Leon, mbtorn

Congratulations! NAD and Klipsch is a great combo. And I see that you picked the 356 over the 326.   I will say it again as you reached 200 hours breaking in the RF62ii, afterwhich you may not need a sub (but then again, it's all up to you)

[tenderobject]

Hi guys! More than 2 weeks na ata ako nakikinig sa Nad 326bee ko.
Last week binago ko yung setup location ko. After a while meron na akong naririnig na iba sa tunog. Siguro sa location ng setup? Nagkaproblem din kase yung speaker cable plugs ko kaya ginawa ko munang bare wire connected sa BX2. Napansin ko lately yung high frequency niya medyo scratchy or ano ba tamang term dito? Sibilance? Sa ibang mga songs medyo distorted ang pakinig ko sa highs. Parang meron nakapatong or something (aligasgas/grainy?). Ganun yung pakiramdam sa mga instruments especially sa vocals, distorted guitars, cymbals/hihats. Sa ibang music hindi ito masyado rinig pero meron talaga at andun pa din. Naririnig ko. Try ko bumili ng bagong speaker cables sa bluejeancables ako kukuha pero abutin pang isang buwan bago so pagtyagaan ko itong cables ko dito at hintayin ko baka makuha sa break in. Hindi ko na alam kung saan nanggagaling yung problem sa highs. Lahat ata nasubukan ko na 
Puede din siguro sa speakers? Kailangan din ng break in ng speakers eh. Usually ba ilang oras dapat? lagpas na siguro ako sa 50hours..

By the way, source ko ay PC at Turntable. Same sa turntable yung sibilance ganun din. Obserbahan ko ulit ito. Try ko ibalik sa dateng pwesto at ayusin mga cables.. Sana cables lang problem. Ahay hassle to ibalik sa Tehran dahil nasa ibang city ako! Malas

[grohl]

Sir sa Plug Ins dito sa Abu Dhabi Marina Mall ko siya nabili, pero meron din sa ibang branches. Ang alam ko Plug Ins lang ang may promo ngayon. Lahat ng audiophile brands nakasale
https://www.facebook.com/Plugins.ae/photos/pcb.817744494914158/817744321580842/?type=1&theater
http://dealsuae365.com/deals/deals-view/731/the-7th-audio-festival-2014-at-plug-ins.html#.VBiHvfmSxLk
Wala silang NAD 356 without DAC. Yung NAD 326 merong walang DAC.

thanks for the info kabayan Splucktearse 

[AppleMan]

^_Meron bang nabibili na DAC para sa 326BEE ? nasa magkano po kaya?...TIA!