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« Reply #3840 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 03:58 AM »
^True.

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« Reply #3841 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 07:06 AM »
@Klaus, acknowledge your purist view.  If a prostitute says no because the client hasn't paid in cash yet, rape will be a tough sell in court.

I hope you don't tell your daughter (if you have one) that it's ok to wear clothing with the total surface area as a hankerchief, walk down a dark alley, and instruct her to simply say no if anyone sexually imposes himself on her.

If you want to prevent crime, eliminate the opportunity.

Maybe you consider me a bigot with my views, but as I said before, I will err on the side of caution.  I do not mean to start any flaming war.  I do respect your views, and this is just a slight difference in opinion.

Tama si sir ojofool, if Vhong committed rape, evidence says na hindi kay Deniece nor kay Roxanne.

hehehe - correct!

Klaus may have different views with ours. But it is ok, opinion lang naman yun. Sa akin lang, one should not play with fire and complain that she burned her fingers later.

Rape is rape there is no amount of evidence needed i think to contravene that except that the alleged criminal act actually never happened. In the case of Vhong if the court can proved that, he should get the appropriate legal equivalence of the liability. The victims may be very happy to obtain justice, but as i have said, deep inside they may be thinking, sana hindi na nangyari to, sana wala ako noon doon, etc. This to my mind is not a sexist remark and derogatory but just a reflection of truth.

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« Reply #3842 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 07:30 AM »
It's that type of "macho"/sexist mentality that leads to the type of "victim blaming" when it comes to rape.

"Eh guwapo at charming naman siya, eh" is not an adequate defense against rape. If you don't see how this is INSULTING to women, then you're part of the problem!

I just think that in the friendly exchange of ideas, the last statement should not have been stated.

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« Reply #3844 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 08:57 AM »
A minute to win it pala dating nyan eh. Haha

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« Reply #3845 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 09:17 AM »
Deniece camp: Rape doable in 1 minute

granting for he sake of argument, but then di kaya emotionaly drained yung victim dapat?
what we see is a happy victim inside the elevator, she liked it....:D
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« Reply #3846 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 09:24 AM »
Di pa nakuntento nag pahalik pa sa elevator.

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« Reply #3847 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 09:25 AM »
A minute to win it pala dating nyan eh. Haha

baka premature?  >:D
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« Reply #3848 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 09:33 AM »
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« Reply #3849 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 09:46 AM »
baka premature?  >:D

Ang kulit lang nitong whole thing na to. I mean, I get that they have to defend their case, pero 1 minute rape? Yun ang defense nila? Haha. Come on.

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« Reply #3850 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 09:48 AM »
Ang kulit lang nitong whole thing na to. I mean, I get that they have to defend their case, pero 1 minute rape? Yun ang defense nila? Haha. Come on.

pwede yung one minute kung meron siya nung "remote control" ni adam sandler sa movie CLICK  >:D
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« Reply #3851 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 09:51 AM »
ang saya nyan pag pina re-enact yang 1 minute rape. baka pede pa isali sa world record yan.
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« Reply #3852 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 10:17 AM »
baka pag bukas ng door nakita lang mukha ni vhong eh she shouted rape kaagad. sa mukha pa lang rapist na seguro lol. talaga kalokohan sila and again what timing mga ibang victims coming forward bigla. that shows you how cheap these girls are. kung mga rape yan reported na agad yan dati.
when you get raped you have to have medical evidence or police report, malabo yan he say or she say na wala evidence. somebody is paying for all these girls to come out to destroy vhongs reputation. desperation time, so desperate measures.

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« Reply #3853 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 10:48 AM »
pwede yung one minute kung meron siya nung "remote control" ni adam sandler sa movie CLICK  >:D

Haha! It's so ridiculous na para bang mockery na sa lahat ng taong gusto ng justice e. Tapos kineclaim nila edited daw yung mga videos footage ng NBI. Bagong angulo nanaman. Hanggang sa makalimutan na lang ng tong buong kalokohan na to.

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« Reply #3854 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 10:59 AM »
baka premature?  >:D

Kaya nga natawag siya ni Deniece na Bad eh...

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« Reply #3855 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 11:01 AM »
Haha! It's so ridiculous na para bang mockery na sa lahat ng taong gusto ng justice e. Tapos kineclaim nila edited daw yung mga videos footage ng NBI. Bagong angulo nanaman. Hanggang sa makalimutan na lang ng tong buong kalokohan na to.

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« Reply #3856 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 11:27 AM »
Edited talaga ang CCTV footage.  Alangan namang panoorin ng DOJ panel ang 2 sets of footage na 24 hours each.  Siyempre, presented as evidence ay yung relevant portions lang. 
 
Dapat ang claim ng respondents, altered ang time stamps.  But it they claim that, the burden of proving the fact of alteration is on them.  Hindi yung sabihin lang nila na altered, presumed altered na.
 

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« Reply #3857 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 11:53 AM »
Deniece camp: Rape doable in 1 minute

 
The Couter-Affidavit cites 2 cases:
 
Cornejo: Rape can happen in a minute, cites SC ruling
by Buena Bernal
Posted on 02/21/2014 7:40 PM  | Updated 02/21/2014 8:58 PM 
 
Cornejo cited in her counter-affidavit previous cases wherein rape "lasted for about one minute."


Howard Calleja, legal counsel for Cornejo, said these cases include:
 
People v. Ocampo (G.R. No. 171731, August 11, 2006)“The sexual assault by Magallones lasted for about one minute after which he went home”
 
People v. Alay-ay (G.R. No. 137199-230, August 23, 2001)
 
“He removed the buttons of her shorts, inserted his fingers in her private part and mashed her private part, which took place about one minute while she was standing.”

 
http://www.rappler.com/nation/51199-cornejo-camp-rape-cites-ruling
 
 
In those cases, the assault itself lasted for about 1 minute.  But in the Vhong case, CCTV footage ng elevator ang pinag-uusapan. 
 
Kaya yung 1 minute, hindi lang yung rape itself, kasama na lahat ng nangyari before the rape. 
 
Eto kuwento ni Deniece:   http://manila.coconuts.co/2014/02/03/her-story-deniece-cornejos-complaint-affidavit-contains-shocking-details 
 
Naghanda pa raw ng juice para kay Vhong. Iyon pa lang aabutin na ng 1 minute.
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« Reply #3858 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 12:07 PM »
Vhong has a minute to win it! lol!
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« Reply #3859 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 02:18 PM »
Vhong has a minute to win it! lol!

Paghindi ka natapos ng 1 minute, kakasuhan kita ng rape.

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« Reply #3860 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 02:25 PM »
sabi nga nung thailander na kakilala ko......"one minit finit......" :S
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« Reply #3861 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 02:46 PM »
MANILA -- Businessman Cedric Lee on Friday claimed that he was only kissing model Deniece Cornejo in jest and joked that she was "delicious enough to be raped."

"Wala talaga, kaibigan ko lang iyun... parang nakipag-harutan lang ako sa kanya," he said. "Parang binibiro ko siya na 'ang sarap mo kasing rape-in.'"

This was the statement that Lee gave to media on Friday when asked why he kissed Cornejo inside the elevator just after the mauling of actor and TV host Vhong Navarro.


http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/02/21/14/cedric-deniece-delicious-enough-be-raped
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« Reply #3862 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 02:57 PM »
nag-Lastikman si Vhong kaya pwede yung 1 minute ... nasa elevator pa lang sya humaba na yung ano nya at inumpisahan na i-rape si Deniece ... finish na pagdating nya sa room :)
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« Reply #3863 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 03:34 PM »
ok na sana kung hindi nirelease ng camp nila c n d yung detailed affidavit at etc na nakita nila at binugbog si vhong..

pwede yung pagdating ni vhong at nag beso beso sila ni deniece the he grabbed her private parts in a leading gesture na hindi nagustuhan ni deniece.. pero wala e.. sablay ang timeline nila.. no wonder atras si fortun.

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« Reply #3864 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 04:48 PM »



MANILA -- Businessman Cedric Lee on Friday claimed that he was only kissing model Deniece Cornejo in jest and joked that she was "delicious enough to be raped."

"Wala talaga, kaibigan ko lang iyun... parang nakipag-harutan lang ako sa kanya," he said. "Parang binibiro ko siya na 'ang sarap mo kasing rape-in.'"

This was the statement that Lee gave to media on Friday when asked why he kissed Cornejo inside the elevator just after the mauling of actor and TV host Vhong Navarro.


http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/02/21/14/cedric-deniece-delicious-enough-be-raped

Eh alangya, si Cedric yata may experience mangrape e. Alam nyang masarap rape-in si Deniece.haha

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« Reply #3865 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 06:13 PM »
speaking from experience?
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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« Reply #3866 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 06:33 PM »
Sa akin lang, one should not play with fire and complain that she burned her fingers later.

Again, this is still victim-blaming. It's wrong. It's not just a matter of "opinion". With this statement you are implying that: a.) Natural sa mga lalake ang mag-rape and b.) a woman who was raped probably did something to deserve to be raped.

You see, that type of thinking is a product of a very patriarchal culture. It's acceptable for men to flaunt their sexuality, to brag about how many women they've slept with, to flirt constantly with as many women as possible and to be a womanizer. It's something to be admired, even encouraged in some quarters. However, if a woman does the same, she is considered an immoral slut, someone who has to be ashamed of themselves. It's the very definition of a double-standard.

I personally don't believe a woman who is flirtatious, more sexually liberated or a woman who likes to wear short skirts deserves to be raped any more than a nun.

It is this VERY attitude that in far more conservative countries, mostly Muslim countries where the women rape victims are the ones who receive punishment and NOT the rapist. I'm sure this is not what you mean but it is THAT type of mentality that leads to something like that. It is VERY detrimental and unfair to rape victims because rape is a very traumatic, horrific experience and for you to make them feel ashamed or somehow at fault if they've been raped is like being raped all over again. This is why a lot of rape victims don't come forward and lots of rapists escape justice.

I don't know if Vhong Navarro is guilty or not but I do believe that when discussing such things, I would like people here to keep this in mind.
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« Reply #3867 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 06:54 PM »
unfortunately the circumstances and the evidences that have surfaced wrt the alleged rape leave one with no other conclusion that there was no rape...

but of course, Deniece or any other woman or man or LGBT for that matter do not deserve to be raped,, that is bad...
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« Reply #3868 on: Feb 22, 2014 at 09:30 PM »
still, with all the evidences going against them, lupit sa kakatanggi,..
Masyado naman ginagawang ta*ga ang lahat,...

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« Reply #3869 on: Feb 23, 2014 at 12:40 AM »
 

Deniece Cornejo claims Vhong Navarro also raped her on Jan.17
February 22, 2014 11:25pm
 
... "I initially did not say anything about the rape on the 17th because I was very ashamed about it. I did not want everyone to know that Kuya Vhong had entered me and had forced himself upon me," Cornejo said in her affidavit.

 
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/349687/showbiz/deniece-cornejo-claims-vhong-navarro-also-raped-her-on-jan-17
 
 
 
So Vhong raped Deniece on Jan. 17.
 
5 days later, on Jan. 22, pinapasok uli ni Deniece si Vhong sa condo, and even offered him "some juice or refreshments."  Na-rape daw ulit.  ::)
 
http://manila.coconuts.co/2014/02/03/her-story-deniece-cornejos-complaint-affidavit-contains-shocking-details
 
 
Pag naniniwala ka pin na na-rape yan, wala na talaga kong magagawa sa yo.
 
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