Author Topic: OPPO DV983H (Read 47631 times)

pchin · « **Reply #150 on:** Jun 03, 2008 at 10:44 PM »

Quote from: streetsmart on Jun 03, 2008 at 06:12 AM

pchin and jay2 were at my place last Saturday and we tested the HQV Calibration disc with several different set-ups. The calibration disc is pretty awesome. Its not that difficult to understand and it already has a point system. In fact, we already have a pretty good idea of the points of some players, including some that really surprised me. Secret pa.

We had fun testing the various DVD players at Mark's place.

Using the HQV Benchmark disc is straighforward & seeing the different results esp the PS3 caught us by surprise.

Can't wait to see the actual shootout results.

Mark, let me kow if you need to refine the score sheet format. Looks like my Oppo 983 will arrive this weekend.

streetsmart · « **Reply #151 on:** Jun 03, 2008 at 10:56 PM »

Quote from: pchin on Jun 03, 2008 at 10:44 PM

We had fun testing the various DVD players at Mark's place. Using the HQV Benchmark disc is straighforward & seeing the different results esp the PS3 caught us by surprise.

Hay si Paul! Sabi na nga secret! English naman yun, ano?

Let's just use the HQV score sheet. At least that is independent and we can't be accused of bias.

I am really really curious about the Oppo 983!!

leomar · « **Reply #152 on:** Jun 03, 2008 at 11:08 PM »

nabasa ko somewhere, comparing 983 and ps3 using the HQV benchmark... hindi yata

ung ps3 while 983 is

... tama ba? hehe

edited para sa mga hindi pa nakabasa

peace gurus!

pchin · « **Reply #153 on:** Jun 04, 2008 at 12:59 AM »

Quote from: streetsmart on Jun 03, 2008 at 10:56 PM

Hay si Paul! Sabi na nga secret! English naman yun, ano?

Let's just use the HQV score sheet. At least that is independent and we can't be accused of bias.
I am really really curious about the Oppo 983!!

Ah I didn't reveal any result...but it seems leomar was the one who has busted the bubble for us na...

pchin · « **Reply #154 on:** Jun 04, 2008 at 01:16 AM »

OPPO Digital DV-983H User Review
http://www.prillaman.net/oppo983_review.html

OPPO Digital DVD Players – User Comparison (DV-981HD, DV-980H, and DV-983H)
http://www.prillaman.net/oppodvd_review.html

pchin · « **Reply #155 on:** Jun 05, 2008 at 10:19 AM »

Congrat Jun for getting his Oppo player na...

I'm sure he's very busy now with his near toy...hope to hear from him soon

kalash · « **Reply #156 on:** Jun 05, 2008 at 10:45 AM »

I hope the shootout starts soon. Real world experience is still different from results of test cds.

oReOsHaKe · « **Reply #157 on:** Jun 05, 2008 at 11:09 AM »

My NEW TOY!!!!

iiinas · « **Reply #158 on:** Jun 05, 2008 at 11:45 AM »

nice sir oreoshake

MAtZTER · « **Reply #159 on:** Jun 05, 2008 at 11:48 AM »

Quote from: kalash on Jun 05, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Real world experience is still different from results of test cds.

TRUE! Comments like these are so badly needed in our audio threads.

Munskie · « **Reply #160 on:** Jun 05, 2008 at 11:56 AM »

Quote from: oReOsHaKe on Jun 05, 2008 at 11:09 AM

My NEW TOY!!!!

congrats!!!

streetsmart · « **Reply #161 on:** Jun 05, 2008 at 05:23 PM »

Nice! Tell us what you think of the pq please.

Moks007 · « **Reply #162 on:** Jun 05, 2008 at 08:58 PM »

Congrats sir oreoshake..feedback naman thanks

oReOsHaKe · « **Reply #163 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 01:33 AM »

Here's my first take:

PQ: I watched Transformers (Region 3) again using the 983 and the PQ is really awesome, breathtaking, definitely better than my previous DVD player, almost near HD quality. This with upconversion to 720p via HDMI to Onkyo 705 then HDMI to TV (Samsung 50" L6HR DLP TV, 720p native resolution). After recalibrating my TV using GetGray, the PQ is simply awesome, color was more life-like and not artificial..

AQ: Excellent audio for both movie and CD, clearer, cleaner, in fact I have to reduce the volume on the receiver when listening to the BEST of FOURPLAY CD audio. I may not need a power amp anymore [for now

] as my 7.1 audio system really sounds so much better with this DVD player.. Definitely, I will not buy a dedicated CD player anymore since this DVD player is already an excellent CD player as well..

Definitely, this DVD player is for keeps.. Never had regrets in buying this player even if this is expensive..

streetsmart · « **Reply #164 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 06:57 AM »

Quote from: oReOsHaKe on Jun 06, 2008 at 01:33 AM

Here's my first take:

PQ: I watched Transformers (Region 3) again using the 983 and the PQ is really awesome, breathtaking, definitely better than my previous DVD player, almost near HD quality. This with upconversion to 720p via HDMI to Onkyo 705 then HDMI to TV (Samsung 50" L6HR DLP TV, 720p native resolution). After recalibrating my TV using GetGray, the PQ is simply awesome, color was more life-like and not artificial..

AQ: Excellent audio for both movie and CD, clearer, cleaner, in fact I have to reduce the volume on the receiver when listening to the BEST of FOURPLAY CD audio. I may not need a power amp anymore [for now ] as my 7.1 audio system really sounds so much better with this DVD player.. Definitely, I will not buy a dedicated CD player anymore since this DVD player is already an excellent CD player as well..

Definitely, this DVD player is for keeps.. Never had regrets in buying this player even if this is expensive..

I'm not surprised by this rave review, given the excellent reviews that this player has had so far.

pchin · « **Reply #165 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 07:29 AM »

Quote from: oReOsHaKe on Jun 06, 2008 at 01:33 AM

Definitely, this DVD player is for keeps.. Never had regrets in buying this player even if this is expensive..

Whoa...the more I'm salivating after reading your excellent feedback!

Hurry up JAC...hope I can get it latest by tomorrow in time for the long weekend.

Moks007 · « **Reply #166 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 07:36 AM »

Quote from: pchin on Jun 06, 2008 at 07:29 AM

Whoa...the more I'm salivating after reading your excellent feedback!

Hurry up JAC...hope I can get it latest by tomorrow in time for the long weekend.

Shootout na!Shootout na! Pchin, I have a feeling it will come in today.

JAC pa ..Always great timing

kalash · « **Reply #167 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 10:16 AM »

Looks like everyone is excited.

barrister · « **Reply #168 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 12:29 PM »

Ang galing!!! Bilib na ko talaga sa Oppo!

Sir streetsmart, I have a new suggestion. Dagdagan natin ng SD DVD vs Blu-ray comparison, Oppo 983 upscale vs PS3 Blu-ray lang para hindi time-consuming.

Eto ang condition: Dapat both discs came from the same high def master. Unfair kasi kung yung SD ay encoded from an old SD master, tapos yung Blu-ray ay VC-1-encoded from a new high def master.

For example:

I Am Legend Blu-ray vs I Am Legend SD DVD

Before you dismiss this comparison as nonsense, hear me out first.

Here's the premise: We know that Blu-ray will definitely be better than SD DVD. But the question is, "Just how much better will Blu-ray really be when compared with an SD DVD, encoded from a high def master, upscaled on an Oppo 983, when both are viewed from 9-foot distance?"

pchin · « **Reply #169 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 12:44 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Jun 06, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Here's the premise: We know that Blu-ray will definitely be better than SD DVD. But the question is, "Just how much better will Blu-ray really be when compared with an SD DVD, encoded from a high def master, upscaled on an Oppo 983, when both are viewed from 9-foot distance?"

Is the SD I am Legend R1, atty? I'm getting the Blu-ray but don't have the SD. If R3 pq is as good as R1 then I might get it.

The viewing distance of my 42" HDTV set is about 9 feet. Will do the testing once my Oppo 983 arrives & surely will do another round in Mark's dedicated HT with his gigantic screen.

barrister · « **Reply #170 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 01:05 PM »

No, it's I am Legend. I'm suggesting it because I think (but I'm not sure) the SD DVD was encoded from the same high def master that they used for encoding the Blu-ray version.

I, Robot might not be a good disc for comparing with Blu-ray. I, Robot SD DVD is a much older release, Dec. 14, 2004, according to Amazon. Judging form the release date, it was probably not encoded from a high def master.

We'll appreciate it very much if you can also test on your setup. A good player shootout should involve different monitor types and sizes, but this will not be possible on the official shootout because of space and equipment limitations.

pchin · « **Reply #171 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 01:17 PM »

Opsss....actually I meant " I am Legend" NOT "I, Robot"... typo error lang kc recently I did a I Robot comparison btw SD vs BLU. Will Smith are in both movies. Seeing too much of him (including Independance Day) is making my brain confuse.

barrister · « **Reply #172 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 01:24 PM »

Then that's great!

I'm sure a lot of members want to know how SD compares with BD under controlled conditions such as content (I am Legend ), monitor calibration, high-end upscaling (Oppo 983) and viewing distance.

You might also want to check the SD DVD's average bitrate using:

DVD Bit Rate Viewer (for PC): http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Other-VIDEO-Tools/DVD-Bit-Rate-Viewer.shtml
MacDVDBitrateParanoia (for Mac): http://web.mac.com/altero/altero/Soft_EN.html

streetsmart · « **Reply #173 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 03:29 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Jun 06, 2008 at 01:24 PM

Then that's great!

I'm sure a lot of members want to know how SD compares with BD under controlled conditions such as content (I am Legend ), monitor calibration, high-end upscaling (Oppo 983) and viewing distance.

You might also want to check the SD DVD's average bitrate using:

DVD Bit Rate Viewer (for PC): http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Other-VIDEO-Tools/DVD-Bit-Rate-Viewer.shtml
MacDVDBitrateParanoia (for Mac): http://web.mac.com/altero/altero/Soft_EN.html

Well, I have the Blu-ray and Superbit versions of "The Fifth Element." That should be good! Let's see if people can guess which one is Blu-ray.

barrister · « **Reply #174 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 03:56 PM »

Yes, Fifth Element is good demo material. Especially kung kabisado mo na ang scenes.

The only problem is that it's had so many releases that it's hard to keep track. A good comparison should be the Superbit vs. the remastered Blu-ray.

Here's what I know:

1. DVD:

The Superbit was the 2nd release (2001), highly praised for excellent audio and video.

The Ultimate Edition is the 3rd and latest release (2005). Sabi ni Bill Hunt, it's the same print used for the Superbit; and both versions used a high def master.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/spinsheet010505.html

2. Blu-ray

The first Blu-ray release (2006, BD-25). Kawawa naman ito, nilait-lait dahil palpak daw, MPEG-2 codec lang ang ginamit, e pang-SD DVD lang ang MPEG-2.

The remastered Blu-ray (2007, dual layer BD-50), using AVC MPEG-4 codec. Ayos na daw ang version na ito.

streetsmart · « **Reply #175 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 04:14 PM »

I have the Superbit and the remastered Blu-Ray versions of "Fifth Element."

I suspect a lot of people are familiar with the film because for the longest time, this has been the reference dvd of a lot of people. I myself know some scenes by heart.

It will really be interesting to see if people can detect a difference. We can even try varying viewing distances for my 120" screen: From 15 feet to 23 feet.

barrister · « **Reply #176 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 04:39 PM »

Quote from: streetsmart on Jun 06, 2008 at 04:14 PM

I have the Superbit and the remastered Blu-Ray versions of "Fifth Element."

Ayos!

Wala na sigurong palusot ang mga Blu-ray fanboys.

I'm expecting Blu-ray to perform better, but not by much.

pchin · « **Reply #177 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 05:55 PM »

Quote from: streetsmart on Jun 06, 2008 at 04:14 PM

It will really be interesting to see if people can detect a difference. We can even try varying viewing distances for my 120" screen: From 15 feet to 23 feet.

Yes, this will be interesting too I'm also keen to see the difference of a newer SD movie (which has PQ improvement over older SD titles) vs Blu-ray.

MAtZTER · « **Reply #178 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 06:52 PM »

Quote from: streetsmart on Jun 06, 2008 at 04:14 PM

I have the Superbit and the remastered Blu-Ray versions of "Fifth Element."

I suspect a lot of people are familiar with the film because for the longest time, this has been the reference dvd of a lot of people. I myself know some scenes by heart.

It will really be interesting to see if people can detect a difference. We can even try varying viewing distances for my 120" screen: From 15 feet to 23 feet.

This is a good test, it was a bit difficult for me to spot the difference at streetsmart's setup.

frootloops · « **Reply #179 on:** Jun 06, 2008 at 08:23 PM »

When you say newer SD, beginning from what year? Kasi I / some have plans of also getting this but if most of our SD's are old, it might just be a waste or di sulit. Thanks.